what was in the condor until need to be blowed up?

or was it to prevent the apc from being repaired and used by the somalis militant?

sorry but what is ATGM?

seem like tldm and tudm is having a shopping spree..

any procurement by Malaysia army? They like keeping silent only. Do hope they can get some advance SAM like S400 or at least S300

seeing SG have going for aster, i think Malaysia would like go for russian.

^ while also gauge each other personal army strength and possible shopping list to rival each other

I think,
yellow current capability
red with new SU-35
thinner red line possible with external fuel tank or air refueling

now i can see why Malaysia move their air base toward north and sub base at sabah.
Now let see if malaysia will get new longer range SAM System to counter a rising threat from china

If it something neighbor does not have or similar, Malaysia would most likely it take it. Seeing our past purchase history

So offer dulu, tengok we angkat the bait tak.

Russia always wait and see, then just offer after reviewing others. Most can see Russian offer the best bargain for any deals
For marine, i think that not russian forte so they dont offer it, even if they have US have better equipments suited for marine than russia

Plus, Malaysia also have to buat muka with US buy something.. if not US muka masam tak beli apa-apa from him
Although, Malaysia preference now was from Europe and former soviet states

Malaysia air defense should improve since china planned SU-35 can now enter Malaysia air space. Long-range and mid range would be nice. Would be nice if there one SAM at peninsular and another at sabah. If any china jet come in, shoot them down into the south china sea
Wonder what anti aircraft system malaysia going to go for? Russian S300 or if lucky their new S400 or US Patriot system. Europe unlikely since SG sudah beli dari mereka

tu Dokdo-class tak jadi?

i thought South Korea even offer malaysia a smaller size one

I also read but so far so silent already.. Tu jernas i tengok macam tembak nyamuk. Need more capable system for malaysia air defense

That i why say.. straight go for long range instead of short or medium range for future needs. Jernas should be able to cover short range requirements. I think two battalion of S300 would be nice each opposite of malaysia. Any nyamuk come in.. straight swim into south china sea

iinm, malaysia doctorate dont like buy second hand things unless is the best bargain unlike pinoy watever US offer angkat dulu

Plus, the cost of retrofitting and modify to suit our needs, would take up additional cost. Unless, US give us the denver for FREE

since kd inderapura fire and decommision, Malaysia lack landing ship. P

if mistral, straight can put our maybe eurocopter tiger on it
bundle deal

it like alot of things to buy but putrajaya dunno wat to buy 1st since everywhere offer us

nanti kena Scorpène sunk

ours more modern

zubr class tu macam gajah plus bising macam anjing gila. It like telling everyone within i am coming. Even starting it will wake everyone at base up

lcac?

tat thing is a waste of money.. even US see no benefits in it already plus maintenance is huge. It will be useful if in beach assault landing like in ww2. Mass force come in

but now it all about tactical strike precision. get in get out asap. That why all are going for amphibious armed vehicles that can provide support and bring toops until main force arrive instead of dedicated unarmed transporter like lcac

Dokdo macam cheaper than mistral if the smaller version. Plus since got hali pad.. much better also for our eurocopter to land in big area

lekiu bathc 2?

i thought sudah replace with next generation patrol vehicle and LCS Gowind

BTW, air and navy macam ada news, our land army no list to buy?

This post has been edited by thpace: Oct 23 2013, 03:34 PM

china stuffs?

i think malaysia still like western equipments. i heard news of Russia willing to offer their S300 system to us. Thus, making us the among the first within the SEA region with long range air defense capabilities. Of course, it does not come cheap even for a country tat frequently buy their weapons

US banyak susah.. nak beli their barang so many procedures and worse it like we renting and canot change or modify without their permission.

plus, future threat most likely coming from china. Tak kan we want buy equipments from state who built their own weapon. surely they know the weakness and possible ways to hack and dis-activate it.


is dokdo class too big for our LDP?

but it look nice

HQ-Q is based on S300 anyway which china license built. So dont expect it to be cheaper but then again CHINA? It not their things is bad but you are essentially buying from would be enemy in future. Common sense will say better dont who know wat they planted inside
Unlike patriot, S300 can be adapted for any requirement, medium range and long range
Just change the missile and you can have different capabilities. So it not like wow.. MALAYSIA suddenly get anti ballistic missile capability

Plus, if malaysia sure will have some modification to it s300 system, maybe integrate some European parts instead of 100% Russia. So we may or may not see a new variant of S300 system if Malaysia were to purchase.
According to potential S300 sales to syria, one S300 system likely to cause around $110~$200Million including missiles.

We already have china at our doorsteps. Having TOT is like inviting a robber coming into your house and you know he confirm will steal something.

PAC-3 i think highly unlikely.. uncle sam does not thrust us that much *YET
I was surprise SG didnt go for Patriot considering how closer they are to uncle sam than US. They still emo we didnt but their Super Hornet last time

I think mindef, initially was concern about china warships and that is why they are rapidly buying & installing Exocet anti-ship missile.
Suddenly, China will have SU-35 and air base closer to us. Now SAM also important in to buy list

This post has been edited by thpace: Oct 24 2013, 03:24 AM

tat was b4 Vietnam. If we have taken tat offer, we have the system by now.

thats why malaysia not interested in buying us stufts. a knock down version? better get a full version from other country plus can add in this and that.

one at kelantan another at sabah.. any one come in better learn how to swin in south china sea. hehehe

syria can get it for usd100 million. I think that is cheaper than buying aircraft and arming them.
according to s300 tech sheet, it missile come in sealed cannister and require no major maintenance

it like buying a expensive car but can only drive and not add any accessories

better buy proton letak turbo. sama juga 4 roda
if have noticed dsme and hanjin design for the lpd is not the same. It not uncommon for company even of same country to offer two diff built. Dokdo design seem can fit more heli on top dec.

Aiya.. ours look like a speedboat when pictured together with US ships

so small in size if compared..

BTW our lekiu class 2nd batch it is still on or sudah cancelled?

This post has been edited by thpace: Oct 27 2013, 02:20 PM

but why it called Patrol vessel?

http://www.defencereviewasia.com/articles/...into-two-halves

RMN prefer sea spparow and naval strike missile for it sgpv. I think because sea sparow is battle proven in sea combat while mica is relatively new system

but seem that there no fund and have to go for cheaper option. Then again why cant the gomen give wat the navy wants for national defence instead of some program of giving free money everywhere

like there no priority for defense instead donate and throw money everywhere

This post has been edited by thpace: Oct 27 2013, 09:56 PM

it like we buy a ferrari shell but use engine from proton..

exocets is so commonly used and ppl already know how to counter it. Plus it cheap armament for such an expensive ship


IP by right should come together with the ship. It not a separate accessories where we have to buy

How the hell for such armement which the RMN also dont want can be selected? RMN no balls to fight?

is tat ds30m is even considered a ciws?

at least give it a proper ciws like millenium or better phlax or it can get Goalkeeper


This post has been edited by thpace: Oct 27 2013, 10:51 PM

based on armement macam sudah jadi mangsa.. rm1.6 billion

macam gajah hitam kena cat putih..

with this type of armament.. even Formidable-class frigate much better and cheaper.
Boleh jadi scout saja lah our sgpv

This post has been edited by thpace: Oct 27 2013, 10:55 PM