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zimhibikie
post Oct 23 2013, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Oct 23 2013, 12:20 PM)
aku rasa dlu ada team bousted gi belajor/evaluate Rotterdam Class sama Galicia Class, tp macam biasa... senyap jugak

me thinks the climax to this was when Korean are offering us their Go Jun Bong class LST until the arrival of Dokdo
since Malaysia senyap we have to wait until next DSA or LIMA
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tuler, if the Indons can build their own LPD, why we kenot lak? If we are serious in establishing a Marine force, LPD is essential for transportation of marine force
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post Oct 23 2013, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Oct 23 2013, 12:05 PM)
I forgot about Indon Makassar-class  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif

Indon can build their own LPD, Malaysia bila lagi? tak rasa tercabar ke?  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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I forgot also that the Pinoy recently chosen PT. PAL to built 2 unit Makassar Class for their Multi-Role Vessels (MRV).

http://manilastandardtoday.com/2013/08/30/...vy-supply-deal/

Besides the LST Class the Pinoy will be getting 2 LPD (MRV).

This post has been edited by azriel: Oct 23 2013, 01:51 PM
ayanami_tard
post Oct 23 2013, 02:46 PM

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it's not about boleh buat ke x boleh. like our brand new training ship. we build it under DSME supervision. but now with all them FAC replacement, OPV project, lekiu batch 2? heheh .....cukup tangan ke nk buat benda2 ne semua laugh.gif

besides afaik makassar-class design is derived from ferry so i don't think it's that complicated. it's not the shipbuilding itself that we have prob, but the electronic suite (radar, sonar, system integration,etcetc )

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post Oct 23 2013, 03:03 PM

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The syrian conflict used a lot of ATGM, Konkurs mostly i think.
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post Oct 23 2013, 03:08 PM

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HMG position kena bom.

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post Oct 23 2013, 03:11 PM

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SAF Su-MK2 bombing run. 4 Bombs dropped.

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post Oct 23 2013, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Oct 23 2013, 12:18 PM)
or maybe its telling everyone I am coming, so everyone will shit in their pants  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif

any hovercraft will make big noise, even those puny pathetic hovercrafts the Brits are using..but the uss denver is bundled with aav and some lcac, why not go buy...with the possibility of armed conflict in south china sea, we can either be US or China's beetch..
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lcac?

tat thing is a waste of money.. even US see no benefits in it already plus maintenance is huge. It will be useful if in beach assault landing like in ww2. Mass force come in

but now it all about tactical strike precision. get in get out asap. That why all are going for amphibious armed vehicles that can provide support and bring toops until main force arrive instead of dedicated unarmed transporter like lcac

QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Oct 23 2013, 12:20 PM)
aku rasa dlu ada team bousted gi belajor/evaluate Rotterdam Class sama Galicia Class, tp macam biasa... senyap jugak

me thinks the climax to this was when Korean are offering us their Go Jun Bong class LST until the arrival of Dokdo
since Malaysia senyap we have to wait until next DSA or LIMA
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Dokdo macam cheaper than mistral if the smaller version. Plus since got hali pad.. much better also for our eurocopter to land in big area

QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Oct 23 2013, 02:46 PM)
it's not about boleh buat ke x boleh. like our brand new training ship. we build it under DSME supervision. but now with all them FAC replacement, OPV project, lekiu batch 2? heheh .....cukup tangan ke nk buat benda2 ne semua  laugh.gif

besides afaik makassar-class design is derived from ferry so i don't think it's that complicated. it's not the shipbuilding itself that we have prob, but the electronic suite (radar, sonar, system integration,etcetc )
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lekiu bathc 2?

i thought sudah replace with next generation patrol vehicle and LCS Gowind

BTW, air and navy macam ada news, our land army no list to buy?

This post has been edited by thpace: Oct 23 2013, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(azriel @ Oct 23 2013, 11:22 AM)
IMO the AV8 can swim coz it has a waterjet propeller at the rear of the vehicle. Same as SAF Terrex & this Indonesian Marines BTR-80.

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BTRs are the most capable amphibious APCs. Can't be compared with heavier vehicles that can only ford through calm waters
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post Oct 23 2013, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Oct 23 2013, 03:18 PM)
lcac?

tat thing is a waste of money.. even US see no benefits in it already plus maintenance is huge. It will be useful if in beach assault landing like in ww2. Mass force come in

but now it all about tactical strike precision. get in get out asap. That why all are going for amphibious armed vehicles that can provide support and bring toops until main force arrive instead of dedicated unarmed transporter like lcac
Dokdo macam cheaper than mistral if the smaller version. Plus since got hali pad.. much better also for our eurocopter to land in big area
lekiu bathc 2?

i thought sudah replace with next generation patrol vehicle and LCS Gowind

BTW, air and navy macam ada news, our land army no list to buy?
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Nuri is bigger then the Caracal,
still manage to landed on Kedah laugh.gif
even tough the main rotor will be around 2 meter from the hanger door!
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post Oct 23 2013, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Oct 23 2013, 12:20 PM)
aku rasa dlu ada team bousted gi belajor/evaluate Rotterdam Class sama Galicia Class, tp macam biasa... senyap jugak
what happened? melawat sambil belajar, pahamlah.
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QUOTE(vmammoth @ Oct 23 2013, 05:08 PM)
what happened? melawat sambil belajar, pahamlah.
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Learn, sought expertise if government issue a tender then bousted already have a company to back them up for the tender
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post Oct 23 2013, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Oct 23 2013, 05:13 PM)
Learn, sought expertise if government issue a tender then bousted already have a company to back them up for the tender
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Sure. You can dream on. "Melawat sambil Belajar" government/GLC style takkan lu tak paham?
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post Oct 23 2013, 05:16 PM

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boleh lu explain secara detail proses proses "melawat sambil belajar tu"

i x paham la
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post Oct 23 2013, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Oct 23 2013, 05:16 PM)
boleh lu explain secara detail proses proses "melawat sambil belajar tu"

i x paham la
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tu la, I pun tak faham
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post Oct 23 2013, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Oct 23 2013, 11:28 AM)
If it something neighbor does not have or similar, Malaysia would most likely it take it. Seeing our past purchase history

So offer dulu, tengok we angkat the bait tak.
Russia always wait and see, then just offer after reviewing others. Most can see Russian offer the best bargain for any deals
For marine, i think that not russian forte so they dont offer it, even if they have US have better equipments suited for marine than russia

Plus, Malaysia also have to buat muka with US buy something.. if not US muka masam tak beli apa-apa from him tongue.gif
Although, Malaysia preference now was from Europe and former soviet states

Malaysia air defense should improve since china planned SU-35 can now enter Malaysia air space. Long-range and mid range would be nice. Would be nice if there one SAM at peninsular and another at sabah. If any china jet come in, shoot them down into the south china sea laugh.gif
Wonder what anti aircraft system malaysia going to go for? Russian S300 or if lucky their new S400 or US Patriot system. Europe unlikely since SG sudah beli dari mereka whistling.gif
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not sure your can read chinese or not, from chinapress, Army interested on LY-80

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post Oct 23 2013, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Oct 23 2013, 11:28 AM)
If it something neighbor does not have or similar, Malaysia would most likely it take it. Seeing our past purchase history

So offer dulu, tengok we angkat the bait tak.
Russia always wait and see, then just offer after reviewing others. Most can see Russian offer the best bargain for any deals
For marine, i think that not russian forte so they dont offer it, even if they have US have better equipments suited for marine than russia

Plus, Malaysia also have to buat muka with US buy something.. if not US muka masam tak beli apa-apa from him tongue.gif
Although, Malaysia preference now was from Europe and former soviet states

Malaysia air defense should improve since china planned SU-35 can now enter Malaysia air space. Long-range and mid range would be nice. Would be nice if there one SAM at peninsular and another at sabah. If any china jet come in, shoot them down into the south china sea laugh.gif
Wonder what anti aircraft system malaysia going to go for? Russian S300 or if lucky their new S400 or US Patriot system. Europe unlikely since SG sudah beli dari mereka whistling.gif
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We should get aew first.
Saab bamse would be cheap option for us.

QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Oct 23 2013, 12:18 PM)
or maybe its telling everyone I am coming, so everyone will shit in their pants  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif

any hovercraft will make big noise, even those puny pathetic hovercrafts the Brits are using..but the uss denver is bundled with aav and some lcac, why not go buy...with the possibility of armed conflict in south china sea, we can either be US or China's beetch..
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I dun eeally mind if we take it to build up our marine and gain xperience on its.
We can determined the essential and core asset from its


QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Oct 23 2013, 12:28 PM)
tuler, if the Indons can build their own LPD, why we kenot lak? If we are serious in establishing a Marine force, LPD is essential for transportation of marine force
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Ngv tech do try to get the deals on lpd.
Well it all still depend budget.
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post Oct 23 2013, 05:50 PM

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projek ni ape citer?

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post Oct 23 2013, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(ikmal2129 @ Oct 23 2013, 05:50 PM)
projek ni ape citer?

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Project lpd ngv tech.
Dia patut tukar main gunner with 155mm mark8 for fire support.
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post Oct 23 2013, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(ikmal2129 @ Oct 23 2013, 05:50 PM)
projek ni ape citer?

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this base on what class of LPD????
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post Oct 23 2013, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(James831 @ Oct 23 2013, 06:38 PM)
this base on what class of LPD????
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probably San Antonio class or Albion..smaller version i presume..

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