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post Oct 23 2013, 11:09 AM

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Thai's Army T-84 Oplot-M live firing test.


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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Oct 23 2013, 08:55 AM)
errr, AV8 kenot swim ka?
Haha AV8 lintas sungai Klang boleh la,laut dalam 20-30 meter dah sah la tak bleh. biggrin.gif
bukannya amphibious sangat. Amphibious operation kena equipment khas.

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TNI-Marinir PT-76

Rasanya kalau equipment Marin Malaysia ni awal2 Landing Craft aje dah ok kot? lagi advanced equipment kena tunggu next budget la.



This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Oct 23 2013, 11:23 AM
azriel
post Oct 23 2013, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 23 2013, 11:15 AM)
Haha AV8 lintas sungai Klang boleh la,laut dalam 20-30 meter dah sah la tak bleh. biggrin.gif
bukannya amphibious sangat.

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TNI-Marinir PT-76

lain la PT-76 ni,memang khas amphibious tank pun.
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IMO the AV8 can swim coz it has a waterjet propeller at the rear of the vehicle. Same as SAF Terrex & this Indonesian Marines BTR-80.

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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Oct 23 2013, 08:55 AM)
errr, AV8 kenot swim ka?
nak lupuskan barang2 lama kot  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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USS Denver salah satu kapal paling tua woo
tp dia nak bagi penuh, with LCAC ngan semua marine eq dlm perut kapal tu
on my 1st thought kalo tuk buat establish for us to learn the trades takde salah
tp on deeper thought, idak la kot
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post Oct 23 2013, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Oct 23 2013, 12:31 AM)
benda baru plan, US plak beriya2 nak bagi barang!
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If it something neighbor does not have or similar, Malaysia would most likely it take it. Seeing our past purchase history

So offer dulu, tengok we angkat the bait tak.

QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Oct 23 2013, 12:34 AM)
Murica also want to reconcile our business partnership back laugh.gif
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Russia always wait and see, then just offer after reviewing others. Most can see Russian offer the best bargain for any deals
For marine, i think that not russian forte so they dont offer it, even if they have US have better equipments suited for marine than russia

Plus, Malaysia also have to buat muka with US buy something.. if not US muka masam tak beli apa-apa from him tongue.gif
Although, Malaysia preference now was from Europe and former soviet states

Malaysia air defense should improve since china planned SU-35 can now enter Malaysia air space. Long-range and mid range would be nice. Would be nice if there one SAM at peninsular and another at sabah. If any china jet come in, shoot them down into the south china sea laugh.gif
Wonder what anti aircraft system malaysia going to go for? Russian S300 or if lucky their new S400 or US Patriot system. Europe unlikely since SG sudah beli dari mereka whistling.gif
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Oct 23 2013, 11:28 AM)
USS Denver salah satu kapal paling tua woo
tp dia nak bagi penuh, with LCAC ngan semua marine eq dlm perut kapal tu
on my 1st thought kalo tuk buat establish for us to learn the trades takde salah
tp on deeper thought, idak la kot
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tu Dokdo-class tak jadi?

i thought South Korea even offer malaysia a smaller size one laugh.gif
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QUOTE(thpace @ Oct 23 2013, 11:28 AM)
If it something neighbor does not have or similar, Malaysia would most likely it take it. Seeing our past purchase history

So offer dulu, tengok we angkat the bait tak.
Russia always wait and see, then just offer after reviewing others. Most can see Russian offer the best bargain for any deals
For marine, i think that not russian forte so they dont offer it, even if they have US have better equipments suited for marine than russia

Plus, Malaysia also have to buat muka with US buy something.. if not US muka masam tak beli apa-apa from him tongue.gif
Although, Malaysia preference now was from Europe and former soviet states

Malaysia air defense should improve since china planned SU-35 can now enter Malaysia air space. Long-range and mid range would be nice. Would be nice if there one SAM at peninsular and another at sabah. If any china jet come in, shoot them down into the south china sea laugh.gif
Wonder what anti aircraft system malaysia going to go for? Russian S300 or if lucky their new S400 or US Patriot system. Europe unlikely since SG sudah beli dari mereka whistling.gif
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I remember, some one from Air force defense said that US offer us NASAMS when we wanted to retire the starburst
then the Pantsir hype up and now all quiet vmad.gif
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post Oct 23 2013, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Oct 23 2013, 11:30 AM)
tu  Dokdo-class tak jadi?

i thought South Korea even offer malaysia a smaller size one laugh.gif
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USS Denver tu kalu dah offer murah siap ngan package heli ngan AAV, ambik jer buat permulaan..pastu leh tambah ngan Dokdo..hahahah brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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post Oct 23 2013, 11:36 AM

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US to hand over first AH-64E Apaches batch to Taiwan next month

22 October 2013

The US is set to hand over the first batch of six AH-64E Apache attack helicopters to the Taiwanese Army early next month, an unnamed military source has revealed.

The source was quoted by Central News Agency as saying that the helicopters will initially be transferred to a harbour in Kaohsiung, prior to delivery to an Army Aviation Special Forces base in Tainan City, Taiwan.

Noting 4 November to be the most likely date for helicopters' arrival, the source said that the delivery was originally planned for late October, but has been delayed in wake of the US' government two-week shutdown.

The second batch will arrive in Taiwan in December, while the rest are expected to be delivered by the end of 2014, the source added.

Around 30 AH-64E Apaches have been ordered by Taiwan under a $2bn deal from the US in 2008, to help supplement the national army's ageing AH-1W Super Cobra attack helicopter fleet.

The pilots have also completed operational training on the Apache helicopters, which are scheduled to be inducted into operational service in 2014, making Taiwan the world's first country besides US to deploy this helicopter type, according to the news agency.

Nicknamed Guardian, the Boeing AH-64E is a heavily armed helicopter featuring powerful, fuel-efficient T700-GE-701D engines, enhanced rotor blade technology and electronics, as well as improved aircraft handling, performance and agility at higher altitudes.

Designed to replace the existing AH-64D Longbow helicopters, the helicopter also features a joint tactical radio system, electro-optical and infrared (EO/IR) sensors to improve pilots' situational awareness and an oversea capacity, enabling potential strikes on smaller ships.

The helicopters have also been ordered by the Indonesian and South Korean armies.


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QUOTE(thpace @ Oct 23 2013, 11:30 AM)
tu  Dokdo-class tak jadi?

i thought South Korea even offer malaysia a smaller size one laugh.gif
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aku pun tak tau, senyap semacam
kes sama jugak, korea offer dokdo, french offer mistral

Malaysia pening rclxub.gif
and both got stood up laugh.gif
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QUOTE(azriel @ Oct 23 2013, 11:22 AM)
IMO the AV8 can swim coz it has a waterjet propeller at the rear of the vehicle. Same as SAF Terrex & this Indonesian Marines BTR-80.
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Hmm dunno la...Kalau ikut specs memang BTR-80 ni amphibious vehicle,so tak heran la. Kalau nak kira SIBMAS pun dikategorikan sebagai Amphibious APC ,tapi takde plak pernah nampak buat Amphibious operations.

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SIBMAS rear section showing propellers for Amphibious operations




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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Oct 23 2013, 11:28 AM)
USS Denver salah satu kapal paling tua woo
tp dia nak bagi penuh, with LCAC ngan semua marine eq dlm perut kapal tu
on my 1st thought kalo tuk buat establish for us to learn the trades takde salah
tp on deeper thought, idak la kot
hahaha
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aku setuju kalau uss denver tu dijadikan sbg learning platform utk future dokdo/mistral nnt...pastu kalau ada dokdo/mistral enter service, maybe leh refurbish sikit uss denver tu sbg hospital ship ke.. tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

itu thai/indon/pinoy marines pun ada kapal seumpama uss denver?
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Oct 23 2013, 11:33 AM)
I remember, some one from Air force defense said that US offer us NASAMS when we wanted to retire the starburst
then the Pantsir hype up and now all quiet  vmad.gif
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I also read but so far so silent already.. Tu jernas i tengok macam tembak nyamuk. Need more capable system for malaysia air defense

That i why say.. straight go for long range instead of short or medium range for future needs. Jernas should be able to cover short range requirements. I think two battalion of S300 would be nice each opposite of malaysia. Any nyamuk come in.. straight swim into south china sea tongue.gif

QUOTE(periuk_api1209 @ Oct 23 2013, 11:34 AM)
USS Denver tu kalu dah offer murah siap ngan package heli ngan AAV,  ambik jer buat permulaan..pastu leh tambah ngan Dokdo..hahahah
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iinm, malaysia doctorate dont like buy second hand things unless is the best bargain unlike pinoy watever US offer angkat dulu laugh.gif

Plus, the cost of retrofitting and modify to suit our needs, would take up additional cost. Unless, US give us the denver for FREE rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Oct 23 2013, 11:37 AM)
aku pun tak tau, senyap semacam
kes sama jugak, korea offer dokdo, french offer mistral

Malaysia pening  rclxub.gif
and both got stood up  laugh.gif
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since kd inderapura fire and decommision, Malaysia lack landing ship. P

if mistral, straight can put our maybe eurocopter tiger on it whistling.gif
bundle deal

it like alot of things to buy but putrajaya dunno wat to buy 1st since everywhere offer us

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post Oct 23 2013, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Oct 23 2013, 11:42 AM)
aku setuju kalau uss denver tu dijadikan sbg learning platform utk future dokdo/mistral nnt...pastu kalau ada dokdo/mistral enter service, maybe leh refurbish sikit uss denver tu sbg hospital ship ke.. tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif

itu thai/indon/pinoy marines pun ada kapal seumpama uss denver?
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USS Denver is a LPD Class.

Royal Thai Navy has 1 unit Endeavour LPD Class they bought from ST Engineering Singapore, while the Indonesian Navy has 4 unit Makassar LPD Class.

IINM the Pinoy only have LST Class.
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QUOTE(azriel @ Oct 23 2013, 12:02 PM)
USS Denver is a LPD Class.

Royal Thai Navy has 1 unit Endeavour LPD Class they bought from ST Engineering Singapore, while the Indonesian Navy has 4 unit Makassar LPD Class.

IINM the Pinoy only have LST Class.
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I forgot about Indon Makassar-class tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

Indon can build their own LPD, Malaysia bila lagi? tak rasa tercabar ke? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Oct 23 2013, 12:05 PM)
I forgot about Indon Makassar-class  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif

Indon can build their own LPD, Malaysia bila lagi? tak rasa tercabar ke?  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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nanti kena Scorpène sunk whistling.gif
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QUOTE(thpace @ Oct 23 2013, 12:09 PM)
nanti kena Scorpène sunk whistling.gif
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dunno if Indon got good ASW, but they also got subs and have more experience in using subs than us tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

alang2 tu, beli je la Zubr-class hovercraft tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Oct 23 2013, 12:11 PM)
dunno if Indon got good ASW, but they also got subs and have more experience in using subs than us  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif

alang2 tu, beli je la Zubr-class hovercraft  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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ours more modern

zubr class tu macam gajah plus bising macam anjing gila. It like telling everyone within i am coming. Even starting it will wake everyone at base up
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QUOTE(thpace @ Oct 23 2013, 12:14 PM)
ours more modern

zubr class tu macam gajah plus bising macam anjing gila. It like telling everyone within i am coming. Even starting it will wake everyone at base up
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or maybe its telling everyone I am coming, so everyone will shit in their pants tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

any hovercraft will make big noise, even those puny pathetic hovercrafts the Brits are using..but the uss denver is bundled with aav and some lcac, why not go buy...with the possibility of armed conflict in south china sea, we can either be US or China's beetch..
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Oct 23 2013, 12:05 PM)
I forgot about Indon Makassar-class  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif

Indon can build their own LPD, Malaysia bila lagi? tak rasa tercabar ke?  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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aku rasa dlu ada team bousted gi belajor/evaluate Rotterdam Class sama Galicia Class, tp macam biasa... senyap jugak

me thinks the climax to this was when Korean are offering us their Go Jun Bong class LST until the arrival of Dokdo
since Malaysia senyap we have to wait until next DSA or LIMA

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