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Military Thread V10, Merry X'Mas and Happy New Year
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keown83
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Dec 8 2013, 01:39 PM
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i dun think Tony Pua & nurul Izzah gives much damage to ATM procurement
they're very naive in terms of defence..& there's no such indicator that their query will gives negative impact on defence
we've seen a much worst corruption in other sector..NFC, Healthcare, Education, u name it..just look at PAT report..PR were very loud on this matter..but yet do u see it gave any impact on Gomen? NO..business as usual..
so i dun see how defence's procurement delay were caused by these PR politician
thats why i think gomen shud just proceed with the business..why too much delay...??? do we have to wait until China presence in SEA give a catastrophe impact, then gomen wanna start panic buy this & that..??? do we need another Kiram invasion then wanna buy proper asset..??? i dun know why but i think there is something else that keep holding back the shopping, but i dun think its the opposition
This post has been edited by keown83: Dec 8 2013, 01:44 PM
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TSyinchet
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Dec 8 2013, 01:53 PM
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If you wish for peace, prepare for war
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Dec 8 2013, 01:39 PM) i dun think Tony Pua & nurul Izzah gives much damage to ATM procurement they're very naive in terms of defence..& there's no such indicator that their query will gives negative impact on defence we've seen a much worst corruption in other sector..NFC, Healthcare, Education, u name it..just look at PAT report..PR were very loud on this matter..but yet do u see it gave any impact on Gomen? NO..business as usual.. so i dun see how defence's procurement delay were caused by these PR politician thats why i think gomen shud just proceed with the business..why too much delay...??? do we have to wait until China presence in SEA give a catastrophe impact, then gomen wanna start panic buy this & that..??? do we need another Kiram invasion then wanna buy proper asset..??? i dun know why but i think there is something else that keep holding back the shopping, but i dun think its the opposition money is the major issue. av8 and sgpv already take huge portion of the budget. Esscom and esszone also asking for more budget. the big problem now is we have too many urgent needs coming in together. At the same times they need to shrink budget deficit. anyway I believe we will have mmrca and mpa announcement by 2014. This post has been edited by yinchet: Dec 8 2013, 01:54 PM
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keown83
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Dec 8 2013, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Dec 8 2013, 01:53 PM) money is the major issue. av8 and sgpv already take huge portion of the budget. Esscom and esszone also asking for more budget. the big problem now is we have too many urgent needs coming in together. At the same times they need to shrink budget deficit.anyway I believe we will have mmrca and mpa announcement by 2014. there thats the BIG question..i think with enough MPs on BN side currently, it can give a go for defence budget increment..for a time being, to hell with opposition MP..history has shown how each time opposition MPs object budget presented in parliment, they still didnt have the volume to make it a hold defence budget shud increase
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cks2k2
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Dec 8 2013, 02:28 PM
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Dec 8 2013, 02:17 PM) there thats the BIG question..i think with enough MPs on BN side currently, it can give a go for defence budget increment..for a time being, to hell with opposition MP..history has shown how each time opposition MPs object budget presented in parliment, they still didnt have the volume to make it a hold defence budget shud increase it's political suicide to increase defense budget when electric naik and gst incoming.
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ezatamrol
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Dec 8 2013, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Dec 8 2013, 02:28 PM) it's political suicide to increase defense budget when electric naik and gst incoming. political suicide is better then national suicide, just increase it. prfags hate BN at the most already, increasing the budget will not cost a thing.
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kerolzarmyfanboy
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Dec 8 2013, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE(azriel @ Dec 8 2013, 11:29 AM) Well there is the Indonesian Air Force F-5E/F Replacement expected to start soon. The candidates are: - Sukhoi Su-35BM - Dassault Rafale - Saab Gripen E/F - Lockheed Martin F-16 Block 60 if they bought rafale or Su-35..i'll shit bricks..
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KYPMbangi
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Dec 8 2013, 06:06 PM
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QUOTE(azriel @ Dec 8 2013, 11:29 AM) Well there is the Indonesian Air Force F-5E/F Replacement expected to start soon. The candidates are: - Sukhoi Su-35BM - Dassault Rafale - Saab Gripen E/F - Lockheed Martin F-16 Block 60 I thought the T-50 kai is their f-5 replacement?
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TSyinchet
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Dec 8 2013, 06:11 PM
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If you wish for peace, prepare for war
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Dec 8 2013, 02:17 PM) there thats the BIG question..i think with enough MPs on BN side currently, it can give a go for defence budget increment..for a time being, to hell with opposition MP..history has shown how each time opposition MPs object budget presented in parliment, they still didnt have the volume to make it a hold defence budget shud increase It is not about parliament issue. it is about government pocket. not enough money how to increase budget.
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cks2k2
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Dec 8 2013, 06:47 PM
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QUOTE(ezatamrol @ Dec 8 2013, 02:48 PM) political suicide is better then national suicide, just increase it. prfags hate BN at the most already, increasing the budget will not cost a thing. it does cost a thing why you think semua Barang Naik? no $
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ayanami_tard
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Dec 8 2013, 06:56 PM
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like i said,wait till rmk-11
we've just bought 6 new frigates and possible new patrol vessels for MMEA and priority now is to strengthen Esscom. there are currently many things that were being bought just to beef up Esscom. but they are mostly low-profile procurement...armored vehicles, patrol boats, radar installation...
but your typical forummers won't gonna notice such procurement...everyone wanted shiny,brand new figher aircraft or shiny, brand new MBT
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superis
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Dec 8 2013, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Dec 8 2013, 05:06 PM) I thought the T-50 kai is their f-5 replacement? It's for hawk mk-53 replacement.
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azriel
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Dec 8 2013, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Dec 8 2013, 06:06 PM) I thought the T-50 kai is their f-5 replacement? The KAI T-50i is for the Hawk Mk.53 trainer replacement.
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azriel
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Dec 8 2013, 08:01 PM
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WIESEL for Royal Brunei Land Forces. QUOTE German firm inks deal with RBTS for Land Forces modernisation
Thursday, December 5, 2013
RHEINMETALL Defence, a German manufacturer of military land systems, yesterday signed a memorandum of understanding with the Royal Brunei Technical Services for cooperation in the modernisation of the Royal Brunei Land Forces.
“Rheinmetall recognises that Brunei plays an important role in security and defence activities in the area,” said Managing Director Harald Westermann.
He added that it was important for the company to establish long term relationships with the sultanate and RBTS.
This is the first MoU signed by Rheinmetall with RBTS, the company said in a statement.
“We feel that Rheinmetall has a full spectrum of land systems that can provide for all the needs for the Brunei Land Forces,” said Westermann, noting that they range from four- to five-tonne track vehicles to main battle tanks.
The company also offers the WIESEL, a family of light tracked vehicles said to be capable of operating in all types of terrain, including swamps and jungles as well as small villages.
Westermann said that the company believes in a long-term commitment, which also covers technical services, spare parts and possible technology transfer.
The signing took place yesterday at the BRIDEX Exhibition Hall Two, and was witnessed by the German Ambassador to Brunei Roland Grafe.
It was signed by Westermann for Rheinmetall and by the RBTS Managing Director Hjh Rosmawati Hj Manaf.
“Rheinmetall is an important stakeholder for our clients, the Ministry of Defence. They are leading producers of land systems that have a lot of potential, such as the WIESEL,” hjh Rosmawati said.
She said that the MoU means that if the Ministry of Defence procures land systems from Rheinmetall, RBTS will be able to provide support, such as maintenance and spare parts provisioning.
“In the meantime, if there is any training or capacity development needs, we can seek them for assistance,” she said.
In addition to providing medium and large-caliber guns and electronics, Rheinmetall offers a wide spectrum of light to heavy tracked combat and support vehicles.
It has produced and delivered 978 Leopard II main battle tanks for German and Dutch armies, together with armoured recovery and armoured engineering vehicles.
The Brunei Times source
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xtemujin
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Dec 8 2013, 09:59 PM
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13 army personnel feared drowned when boat capsized 8 December 2013 Sunday | 09:40PM KUALA LUMPUR: Thirteen army personnel are feared drowned when the boat used by them capsized during a training exercise to Pulau Nangka in Malacca yesterday. The men were on a rowing training exercise and they were on a boat with four other boats from Sungai Udang to the island. MORE TO COME http://www.nst.com.my/latest/13-army-perso...psized-1.426161This post has been edited by xtemujin: Dec 8 2013, 09:59 PM
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atreyuangel
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Dec 8 2013, 10:39 PM
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QUOTE(xtemujin @ Dec 8 2013, 09:59 PM) 13 army personnel feared drowned when boat capsized 8 December 2013 Sunday | 09:40PM KUALA LUMPUR: Thirteen army personnel are feared drowned when the boat used by them capsized during a training exercise to Pulau Nangka in Malacca yesterday. The men were on a rowing training exercise and they were on a boat with four other boats from Sungai Udang to the island. MORE TO COME http://www.nst.com.my/latest/13-army-perso...psized-1.426161 Those are the commando personnel Hope everything will going to be fine  !
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nikita zuleica
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Dec 9 2013, 01:26 AM
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any update?
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ncool15
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Dec 9 2013, 02:56 AM
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'Alhamdulillah... Berkat doa semia rakyat Malaysia pasukan penyelamat telah menjumpai 13 anggota yang hilang telah di temui dalam keadaan sihat. Kini mereka di bawa ke Kem Terendak, Melaka. Tunggu berita rasmi selanjutnya nanti' - VAT69 PS FB Page
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KYPMbangi
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Dec 9 2013, 03:01 AM
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QUOTE(ncool15 @ Dec 9 2013, 02:56 AM) 'Alhamdulillah... Berkat doa semia rakyat Malaysia pasukan penyelamat telah menjumpai 13 anggota yang hilang telah di temui dalam keadaan sihat. Kini mereka di bawa ke Kem Terendak, Melaka. Tunggu berita rasmi selanjutnya nanti' - VAT69 PS FB Page
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lulz
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Dec 9 2013, 03:15 AM
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QUOTE(ncool15 @ Dec 9 2013, 02:56 AM) 'Alhamdulillah... Berkat doa semia rakyat Malaysia pasukan penyelamat telah menjumpai 13 anggota yang hilang telah di temui dalam keadaan sihat. Kini mereka di bawa ke Kem Terendak, Melaka. Tunggu berita rasmi selanjutnya nanti' - VAT69 PS FB Page Good news.
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TSyinchet
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Dec 9 2013, 05:28 AM
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If you wish for peace, prepare for war
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Dec 8 2013, 06:56 PM) like i said,wait till rmk-11 we've just bought 6 new frigates and possible new patrol vessels for MMEA and priority now is to strengthen Esscom. there are currently many things that were being bought just to beef up Esscom. but they are mostly low-profile procurement...armored vehicles, patrol boats, radar installation... but your typical forummers won't gonna notice such procurement...everyone wanted shiny,brand new figher aircraft or shiny, brand new MBT Yup. But not just esscom selat melaka also being beef up. Perak will get two new coastal radar soon.
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