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post Jan 28 2007, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(ATI.Bob @ Jan 28 2007, 12:49 AM)
I'd try it when I'm free.. But I think i'll be leaving it on most of the times because dust might stain the drivers and the surface.. plus I don't want my friends poking the drivers out of the sudden.. bruce.gif  laugh.gif

Okay.. my initial comments on the MX5021.. just after a few hours of usage..

First impressions of the speakers to me was how big and impressive the whole set looks, although it wasn't that big if u really measure it.. maybe I just wasn't used to seeing big speakers or probably it was placed next to other dwarf-lings.. laugh.gif

Placement of the sub isn't what you call a wall hugging setup already.. it's a few feet from the walls, but still at near-corner position.. sats are placed around 3 feet apart, and 3 feet from me..

Onto test drive.. using my own Acer TravelMate 3202XCi laptop.. currently still using the onboard AC'97 sweat.gif  for testing purposes.. due to my weekend break from school.. the speaker will be paired with PSC805 real soon..  whistling.gif

Played a few MP3's, FLAC and CDs.. techno/electronic music sounds different on the Altec when compared to my old Edifier X600 boomer.. the bass is more taut/tight.. but I can get used to that..  nod.gif But some tracks does sounds nicer and have a more controlled bass compared to X600 bass (I know it's unfair to judge by these two, but that's what I've had before MX5021.. tongue.gif) while some tracks the lower end seems to be less noticable and the mids/highs are just sharp.. nice, but can be annoying after long period of listening. unsure.gif

Tried some oldies CDs.. they just sound clear and nice.. with emphasis on the vocals.. can't really comment much coz they're oldies.. and they sound they sounded just like what it should sound.. (whatever that means..) laugh.gif

Rock songs seems to be a little too harsh on the MX5021.. some of the softer snares seems recessed into the background (maybe recording error?)..

All in all, I'd prefer to have the treble turn a little less than half of the max.. and bass at the level 3-4.. but turned up to 5 when I need the oomph..  thumbup.gif
The bass produced gives more low end thump than a hum.. and with so much power under the hood, I didn't notice it was already so loud (can hear the bass and vocals clearly outside my room and downstairs) that my ears started to get a little painful just with 2-3/5 volume levels.. (Windows settings at ~50%)..

and the sound stage is really nice.. compared to X600.. and watched an episode of DVD-quality Happy Feet, the bass doesn't kick in in places that X600 starts to hum.. but in scenes like the part where mumble was alone and attacked by the seals (was that a seal? laugh.gif), the low thumps are really nice.. and vocals are very clear.. almost too sharp (initially with the treble turned a little too high) that I still had to leave the treble not more than 3 steps..

Will continue using it for a while and unite it with PSC805 soon  laugh.gif

more comments coming soon..  icon_rolleyes.gif
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nice review, good job bro. ur speaker just bought, better dun blast it too loud, just like buy a new car, open at normal volumn to let warm up some period 1st. smile.gif
for me, treble 3 and bass 3 is the best setting
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post Jan 28 2007, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(ATI.Bob @ Jan 28 2007, 01:25 AM)
I knew about the whole 'burn in' habit of most speaker enthusiast.. been there, done that.. so I'd agree burning in does gives it a 'more complete' sound..  nod.gif

so i'm planning to play it as usual first.. maybe turn up the volume a bit for some head banging session.. laugh.gif see if the bass and treble is more 'relaxed'..  smile.gif
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Bro, where did you get your MX5021 from? How much is it? I'm glad that there's another happy MX5021 user biggrin.gif Enjoy your speakers~

Thanks smile.gif
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post Jan 28 2007, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(Aquanox28 @ Jan 28 2007, 10:12 AM)
Bro, where did you get your MX5021 from? How much is it? I'm glad that there's another happy MX5021 user  biggrin.gif  Enjoy your speakers~

Thanks  smile.gif
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Got it in Sarawak.. A black coloured unit.. retail pricing here is around RM600 for MX5021.. really expensive due to the transportation fees added in... doh.gif But I've got mine a little bit cheaper.. rolleyes.gif

I really admire the looks.. biggrin.gif and the sound is still a little iffy at the moment.. need to give it some time to burn in.. smile.gif
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post Jan 28 2007, 08:08 PM

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What u mean iffy ? I am interested to get the set also smile.gif seems like an excellent all rounder for pc
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post Jan 28 2007, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(s[H]sIkuA @ Jan 28 2007, 08:08 PM)
What u mean iffy ? I am interested to get the set also smile.gif seems like an excellent all rounder for pc
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Dunno how to explain.. hehe.. something that i'm not used to.. probably because of too much listening to my old Edifier X600 set.. tongue.gif

Overall is a good set.. the bass is similar to the old ACS45.1 system.. a very low end thump (maybe the result of low crossover point) but is more defined and more 'accurate' laugh.gif..

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plus the mids and treble are good.. still in the process of burning in.. smile.gif
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post Jan 28 2007, 08:43 PM

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I'm also interested to get one for myself.

Has anyone surveyed the price of the MX5021 in MidValley? I hope to get at around RM530-RM550 icon_question.gif
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post Jan 28 2007, 08:59 PM

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it is retailed at that price. anyplace also u can get.
the mines selling RM 530-RM 540.

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QUOTE(PcWork @ Jan 28 2007, 08:59 PM)
it is retailed at that price. anyplace also u can get.
the mines selling RM 530-RM 540.
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Wow, really? I asked the shops at Summit but they are selling at RM570.. sad.gif

Btw, anyone tried pairing the MX5021 with the Little Dot 2+? How does is perform? drool.gif

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post Jan 28 2007, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(Aquanox28 @ Jan 28 2007, 10:07 PM)
Wow, really? I asked the shops at Summit but they are selling at RM570.. sad.gif

Btw, anyone tried pairing the MX5021 with the Little Dot 2+? How does is perform?  drool.gif
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Seems like the price had been hiked a little compared to last year.. doh.gif

Little Dot 2+? I thought it's an headphone amp?

In my opinion, you should pair it to an amp that has more midrange and treble warmth since MX5021 has a little too much treble and mids emphasis to my taste.. so it's more listen-able all-rounder.. tongue.gif

Probably I'm just not used to speakers emphasising on mids and treble.. biggrin.gif

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new vs4121 user here.. still burning in.. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(ATI.Bob @ Jan 28 2007, 10:18 PM)
Seems like the price had been hiked a little compared to last year.. doh.gif

Little Dot 2+? I thought it's an headphone amp?

In my opinion, you should pair it to an amp that has more midrange and treble warmth since MX5021 has a little too much treble and mids emphasis to my taste.. so it's more listen-able all-rounder..  tongue.gif

Probably I'm just not used to speakers emphasising on mids and treble.. biggrin.gif
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LD2+ is a pre-amp, correct me if i'm mistaken.
I wanted to test it out also, going to loan from yeah_guyz see he want to borrow or not.
If he don't want, then it can't be helped already, i'll just rob him. brows.gif
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post Jan 28 2007, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(lAh0S @ Jan 28 2007, 11:21 PM)
LD2+ is a pre-amp, correct me if i'm mistaken.
I wanted to test it out also, going to loan from yeah_guyz see he want to borrow or not.
If he don't want, then it can't be helped already, i'll just rob him.  brows.gif
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LD2+ can be pre-amp and headphone amp
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post Jan 28 2007, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(lAh0S @ Jan 28 2007, 11:21 PM)
LD2+ is a pre-amp, correct me if i'm mistaken.
I wanted to test it out also, going to loan from yeah_guyz see he want to borrow or not.
If he don't want, then it can't be helped already, i'll just rob him.  brows.gif
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QUOTE(TeOtq @ Jan 28 2007, 11:39 PM)
LD2+ can be pre-amp and headphone amp
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wrong wrong wrong laugh.gif
LD2+ is a headamp, and it can be used as pre-amp too. the primary usage of ld2+ is still a headamp although it can be used as pre-amp.

anyway, it's not recommended to use a pre-amp to power up an active speaker. active speaker already came with built-in amp to power them up with sufficient gain. adding another pre-amp may over-amplify the multimedia speaker and then cause the sound to become over-whelming. however, i have tried using ld2+ as pre-amp with my s4.1. the pre-amp of ld2+ seems to be quite low-powered and it introduced some 'warm' (valve) sound to my speaker. eventually they sounded nice to my ear.
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QUOTE(yeahs4.1 @ Jan 28 2007, 11:55 PM)
wrong wrong wrong laugh.gif
LD2+ is a headamp, and it can be used as pre-amp too. the primary usage of ld2+ is still a headamp although it can be used as pre-amp.

anyway, it's not recommended to use a pre-amp to power up an active speaker. active speaker already came with built-in amp to power them up with sufficient gain. adding another pre-amp may over-amplify the multimedia speaker and then cause the sound to become over-whelming. however, i have tried using ld2+ as pre-amp with my s4.1. the pre-amp of ld2+ seems to be quite low-powered and it introduced some 'warm' (valve) sound to my speaker. eventually they sounded nice to my ear.
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That's why LD2+ not in my list after all. laugh.gif
Sorry yeah_guyz. cool.gif

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post Jan 30 2007, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(sunauto @ Jan 26 2007, 07:43 PM)
As far as I know, MX5021 only has changeable speaker cables, 2-3 years later, you won't think about LYN or AL lah, got gf already, where got time for this?  nod.gif

So fast back to Uni, ar? I thought you can relax a few months then good lah. Can use the few months to do speaker research mah.  laugh.gif
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ahahaha...now oso got dy...but my 1st gf is still my cs21 la....2nd is my real gf...hehehehe biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

thats y la...so kedekut to give cuti... sad.gif sad.gif

in ur opinion,wat is the best 2.1 speaker that is resonable and superb?? i mean overall...all brands...

and,does 5.1 speaker have sound better than 2.1 speaker system??



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post Jan 30 2007, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(narkon @ Jan 30 2007, 11:33 AM)
ahahaha...now oso got dy...but my 1st gf is still my cs21 la....2nd is my real gf...hehehehe biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

thats y la...so kedekut to give cuti... sad.gif  sad.gif

in ur opinion,wat is the best 2.1 speaker that is resonable and superb?? i mean overall...all brands...

and,does 5.1 speaker have sound better than 2.1 speaker system??
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sorry to budge into the conversation between u two.. whistling.gif

but in my opinion, everyone has their own taste of speakers.. I realise it when I got my own MX5021.. for example.. some might love MX5021 because it has strong mids and highs and a taut bass.. while some like Logitech/Klipsch for its 'rounder' boomier bass reproduction.. so everyone have their own definition of 'best speaker'.. smile.gif

QUOTE(narkon @ Jan 30 2007, 11:33 AM)
ahahaha...now oso got dy...but my 1st gf is still my cs21 la....2nd is my real gf...hehehehe biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

thats y la...so kedekut to give cuti... sad.gif  sad.gif

in ur opinion,wat is the best 2.1 speaker that is resonable and superb?? i mean overall...all brands...

and,does 5.1 speaker have sound better than 2.1 speaker system??
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For me, there's no point of up-mixing a stereo source for 5.1 playback right? so if what you do is listening to music, a 2.1 set would be sufficient.. getting a 5.1 setup (together with the cable mess) is only worth if you're serious in surround movies and gaming.. tongue.gif

Heck, for movies that's downloaded from BT sites, they're good enough for 2.1 sets already... laugh.gif
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For me, i think it is enough to use 2.1 in a pc... Actually those 5.1 is a complex knowledge... And they are very expensive too... As a student, is hard to buy them... Even for MX5021 also very expensive for a student too... And then plus u have to buy a better soundcard...

If in a bigger room... For me i will set a 5.1... becoz we can enjoy the "BOOM" and the surround... BUT DAMN EXPENSIVE~~!! KEF's speakers plus a Denon's amp... DVD player.... HDTV.... All are $$$$$.....


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QUOTE(ATI.Bob @ Jan 30 2007, 03:40 PM)
sorry to budge into the conversation between u two.. whistling.gif

but in my opinion, everyone has their own taste of speakers.. I realise it when I got my own MX5021.. for example.. some might love MX5021 because it has strong mids and highs and a taut bass.. while some like Logitech/Klipsch for its 'rounder' boomier bass reproduction.. so everyone have their own definition of 'best speaker'..  smile.gif
For me, there's no point of up-mixing a stereo source for 5.1 playback right? so if what you do is listening to music, a 2.1 set would be sufficient.. getting a 5.1 setup (together with the cable mess) is only worth if you're serious in surround movies and gaming..  tongue.gif

Heck, for movies that's downloaded from BT sites, they're good enough for 2.1 sets already... laugh.gif
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u are not interupting bro...u are welcome to give a comment and ideas for me... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

wat u say is very true....thats y i said to bro sunatou in his own opinion...coz he is pro, he know more than me and maybe his opinion suite for me... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

bout the 5.1 speaker....true wat u say...my fren got 5.1 speaker and the wire are so2 messy...combine with computer wire....like breeding pit for mouse....ahahaha tongue.gif tongue.gif

1 more question, is the sound of the speaker much more better i mean more clearer if got tweeter(dunno the spelling)??..

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If I'm not wrong, tweeters are supposed to be responsible for producing high frequency sounds (I think these makes the sound clearer and sharper). Logitech speakers do not have them, thus the sound produced is on the muffled side. smile.gif

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QUOTE(Aquanox28 @ Jan 30 2007, 07:15 PM)
If I'm not wrong, tweeters are supposed to be responsible for producing high frequency sounds (I think these makes the sound clearer and sharper). Logitech speakers do not have them, thus the sound produced is on the muffled side.  smile.gif
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Agree!! cool2.gif Tweeters are useful in listen the Rock and Disco or Techno song's...

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