I think Toyota Malaysia need to change their slogan, "Moving Forward", because keep using an old/antique engine and gearbox for 10 years is not considered moving forward at all.
Why is Vios no good ? So many bashers
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 Sep 19 2013, 11:53 AM
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Sep 19 2013, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE(EP6CDTM @ Sep 19 2013, 09:57 AM) tebo more parts, less reliabity thats depend on the car manufacture.. if they want all the power they want. Tebo is ONE of their many options.nothing to boost when the proven engine is perfect, right?  |
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Sep 19 2013, 12:09 PM
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Sep 19 2013, 09:37 AM) To me, Vios is the one and only best cars selling in Malaysia. I wanted to comment on the other points...BUT THIS BEATS ALL!!!Reason: realiable good handling safety rating good comfort NVH the best, even better than a 5 series cheap to maintain maybe no need to maintain, Toyota won't spoil one good pick up good performance and finally, good RV. some will buy Toyota cars as an investment. buy RM80K, 2 years later sell RM100K. So i'm in the same boat as you, why are so many people bashing vios ? only true car lovers and car experts will love the Vios. ROTFLOL. |
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Sep 19 2013, 12:11 PM
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QUOTE(donker @ Sep 19 2013, 11:53 AM) I think Toyota Malaysia need to change their slogan, "Moving Forward", because keep using an old/antique engine and gearbox for 10 years is not considered moving forward at all. Those korean looser keep on screwing up with their engine that why they need to keep on changing bur end of the day still unrefined & thirsty engine. Isn't that Theta engine already 9 years old but still used in Face lift Sonata 2.4 ?? oh that is New Thinking New Possibilities ...lol... Oh how about Das Auto VW 1.8T engine ? since 1998 what's that 15 years old ..lol... Das Antique ? This post has been edited by jolokia: Sep 19 2013, 12:23 PM |
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Sep 19 2013, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE(pallmall @ Sep 19 2013, 10:47 AM) nice sarcastic what sarcastic ???!!! I AM BLOODY SERIOUS HERE  |
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Sep 19 2013, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE(efzet @ Sep 19 2013, 10:41 AM) spec wise - vios is entry level for toyota...that's why toyota doesn't seems care to 'upgrade' the new engine, just use the old one then just put new face on it. So does that make Camry as an entry level too? |
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Sep 19 2013, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(brianccg @ Sep 19 2013, 10:55 AM) Apart for fuel consumption, I dont see why I want Vios and so regret to get this car. Toyota...regret? noise? How can? Impossible!I am driving it since last year May and now there are noise coming out. Prior to vios, I am driving Getz and Matrix which do not gv me problem for 5 years. user problem. |
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Sep 19 2013, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Sep 19 2013, 09:37 AM) To me, Vios is the one and only best cars selling in Malaysia. I nearly fell off my chair reading this...I can't believe people still think of buying car as INVESTMENT. And to call oneself TRUE car lovers for that..priceless stupidity...Reason: realiable good handling safety rating good comfort NVH the best, even better than a 5 series cheap to maintain maybe no need to maintain, Toyota won't spoil one good pick up good performance and finally, good RV. some will buy Toyota cars as an investment. buy RM80K, 2 years later sell RM100K. So i'm in the same boat as you, why are so many people bashing vios ? only true car lovers and car experts will love the Vios. Back to topic..I think the main reason why people bashing VIOS is because a lot of normal users think owning a VIOS make so high class. That they can bash proton/perodua cause they own toyota. I personally will not buy p1/p2 and own toyota. But I will bash p1/p2 for another reason...but that is best left in another discussion...LOL... |
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Sep 19 2013, 12:18 PM
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Sep 19 2013, 12:16 PM) Toyota...regret? noise? How can? Impossible! The noise must have come from the driver himself.user problem. |
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Sep 19 2013, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE(abubin @ Sep 19 2013, 12:17 PM) I nearly fell off my chair reading this...I can't believe people still think of buying car as INVESTMENT. And to call oneself TRUE car lovers for that..priceless stupidity... I think that guy is trolling....lolBack to topic..I think the main reason why people bashing VIOS is because a lot of normal users think owning a VIOS make so high class. That they can bash proton/perodua cause they own toyota. I personally will not buy p1/p2 and own toyota. But I will bash p1/p2 for another reason...but that is best left in another discussion...LOL... |
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Sep 19 2013, 12:24 PM
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Sep 19 2013, 09:37 AM) To me, Vios is the one and only best cars selling in Malaysia. Yeah and my mother is the Queen of England.Reason: realiable good handling safety rating good comfort NVH the best, even better than a 5 series cheap to maintain maybe no need to maintain, Toyota won't spoil one good pick up good performance and finally, good RV. some will buy Toyota cars as an investment. buy RM80K, 2 years later sell RM100K. So i'm in the same boat as you, why are so many people bashing vios ? only true car lovers and car experts will love the Vios. Can i have some whatever you are smoking braderrrrr. |
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Sep 19 2013, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(zeus2005 @ Sep 19 2013, 12:06 PM) But then again, it does not need to mention 7 speed in their brochure or ads. I myself driving CVT car but it does not has those paddle shifter for shifting gear. It is only equipped with a sport mode button which is powerful enough to climb uphill. Even the salesperson explained to me how CVT works instead of giving a so called virtual feeling and description to a customer. It's just an option for more control, that's all  |
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Sep 19 2013, 12:27 PM
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good power...
good handling.... two great cars challenging neck to neck.... |
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Sep 19 2013, 12:29 PM
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Sep 19 2013, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(fumoffu_sanchai @ Sep 19 2013, 12:24 PM) Yeah and my mother is the Queen of England. SHE IS?!!!! |
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Sep 19 2013, 12:32 PM
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wa, a flying toyota up here !!!
say, if i just awnt a small family acr, Vios would be a good choice right? i dont understand engines, but only need a decent (jimat minyak and easy to drive and reliable car) car to move around short distance. so Vios is 'ok' right? |
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Sep 19 2013, 12:33 PM
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QUOTE(Ray9300 @ Sep 19 2013, 02:00 AM) Why are so many people bashing vios ? The GT-R engine was refined, and it is a brilliant engine. The Vios engine not so much.Some said its a car for ahbeng ahseng , and god spec and many more. I visited paultan website today reading about the new 2013 vios , when I go to the comment section , so many people complaining the car lack of safety over priced and using the same engine for more than 10 years , isn't Nissan gtr also using same rb26 engine for r32 r33 r34 . And some more complain about the old 4 speed auto gear box. Hmm I really hope someone can write me a detail explanation of what is going on . Also the main problem is that while overseas Toyota offers 6 or 7 airbags and ESP as a standard, it comes with 2 airbags and no ESP in Malaysia. At a time where competitors for a similar price tag (they carry a similar price tag overseas too) come with 6-7 airbags and ESP in Malaysia. You get a slightly improved Saga, but you pay 2x as much. Why...? At least competitors are offering something for the price increase. I can understand the thinking at Toyota, and I might do the same (though I do think they are trying to milk the cow too much, at some point that will backfire and cause problems in future. Better stay ahead of the curve). But that also means I can't recommend the Vios. A Pentium 4 is proven technology. You still want to use a Pentium 4? No. Cause things have become better, faster, more efficient. An i5 will run circles around a P4, at the same price (new) but with much lower power consumption. Or a Nokia 3210. Very solid. Very reliable. Can use for 50 years probably. What do you buy then? 3210 or Galaxy S4/iPhone 5S/HTC One/Lumia 1020 if they are the same price? The Toyota Prius is no 1 perhaps. Not some cut throat downgraded ASEAN model. When I sat in a Vios I didn't think the ride was good, and it was bloody noisy inside (the car might be lowered a bit though). My Kangoo is clearly not as noisy or uncomfortable. Though I haven't tried the new Vios, maybe it is better. If yes, then congrats for making a car that is a bit better than a panel van designed 15 years ago  Btw., if a CVT can imitate immediate gear shifts, it should be able to do those any time, no? It should anytime be able to drop the ratio quickly... simulating a limited amount of gears just sounds stupid to me. It only makes people hear the wrooom sound and feel a jerk so they think it's faster. This post has been edited by kadajawi: Sep 19 2013, 12:34 PM |
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Sep 19 2013, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Sep 19 2013, 09:37 AM) To me, Vios is the one and only best cars selling in Malaysia. Haha, so sarcastic lerr... Reason: realiable good handling safety rating good comfort NVH the best, even better than a 5 series cheap to maintain maybe no need to maintain, Toyota won't spoil one good pick up good performance and finally, good RV. some will buy Toyota cars as an investment. buy RM80K, 2 years later sell RM100K. So i'm in the same boat as you, why are so many people bashing vios ? only true car lovers and car experts will love the Vios. |
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Sep 19 2013, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Sep 19 2013, 12:33 PM) Btw., if a CVT can imitate immediate gear shifts, it should be able to do those any time, no? It should anytime be able to drop the ratio quickly... simulating a limited amount of gears just sounds stupid to me. It only makes people hear the wrooom sound and feel a jerk so they think it's faster. By holding a the transmission ratio in a CVT, you have more control over the power/torque/engine response. This is useful when attacking a corner or in overtaking situation. |
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Sep 19 2013, 01:24 PM
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Sep 19 2013, 12:33 PM) The GT-R engine was refined, and it is a brilliant engine. The Vios engine not so much. how can you compare a van to our god car? Also the main problem is that while overseas Toyota offers 6 or 7 airbags and ESP as a standard, it comes with 2 airbags and no ESP in Malaysia. At a time where competitors for a similar price tag (they carry a similar price tag overseas too) come with 6-7 airbags and ESP in Malaysia. You get a slightly improved Saga, but you pay 2x as much. Why...? At least competitors are offering something for the price increase. I can understand the thinking at Toyota, and I might do the same (though I do think they are trying to milk the cow too much, at some point that will backfire and cause problems in future. Better stay ahead of the curve). But that also means I can't recommend the Vios. A Pentium 4 is proven technology. You still want to use a Pentium 4? No. Cause things have become better, faster, more efficient. An i5 will run circles around a P4, at the same price (new) but with much lower power consumption. Or a Nokia 3210. Very solid. Very reliable. Can use for 50 years probably. What do you buy then? 3210 or Galaxy S4/iPhone 5S/HTC One/Lumia 1020 if they are the same price? The Toyota Prius is no 1 perhaps. Not some cut throat downgraded ASEAN model. When I sat in a Vios I didn't think the ride was good, and it was bloody noisy inside (the car might be lowered a bit though). My Kangoo is clearly not as noisy or uncomfortable. Though I haven't tried the new Vios, maybe it is better. If yes, then congrats for making a car that is a bit better than a panel van designed 15 years ago Btw., if a CVT can imitate immediate gear shifts, it should be able to do those any time, no? It should anytime be able to drop the ratio quickly... simulating a limited amount of gears just sounds stupid to me. It only makes people hear the wrooom sound and feel a jerk so they think it's faster.  |
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