Why is Vios no good ? So many bashers
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 Sep 19 2013, 09:54 AM
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Sep 19 2013, 09:51 AM) Agree!!!! maybe they will remove the reverse gear too to improve reliability I will be happy if the next Vios or altis comes with two speeder...forward and reverse. like I said, less gears = less shifting = less moving parts = less problem = NO PROBLEM. Agree?   |
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Sep 19 2013, 09:55 AM
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QUOTE(hyperspeed @ Sep 19 2013, 09:44 AM) is it? so all subaru and lambo not powerfull la?? tebo is extra added option to give power la. if vios get tebo then how much the cost then? 100K?? who needs tebo when the engine is already so powerful? want the car to fly to the moon is it? |
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Sep 19 2013, 09:57 AM
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tebo more parts, less reliabity
nothing to boost when the proven engine is perfect, right? |
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Sep 19 2013, 09:58 AM
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years ago, 3 speed auto was standard. really nothing wrong with it. stable, hardly break down. just fc is a bit high. but those days at rm1/liter, who cares?
fast forward to today, 5 speed is standard, and cvt is gaining ground, all in the name of improving fc. so, seriously there is nothing wrong with a 4 speed. just the fc could be even better. |
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Sep 19 2013, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE(fireballs @ Sep 19 2013, 09:58 AM) years ago, 3 speed auto was standard. really nothing wrong with it. stable, hardly break down. just fc is a bit high. but those days at rm1/liter, who cares? vios can do 20km/L with 4 speeder, what else you do want? fast forward to today, 5 speed is standard, and cvt is gaining ground, all in the name of improving fc. so, seriously there is nothing wrong with a 4 speed. just the fc could be even better.  |
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Sep 19 2013, 10:03 AM
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21,962 posts Joined: Dec 2004 From: KL  
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Sep 19 2013, 09:51 AM) Agree!!!! That is wrong ler... Driver-view wise, its already considered that since u only need D and R but internally still need gear speed.I will be happy if the next Vios or altis comes with two speeder...forward and reverse. like I said, less gears = less shifting = less moving parts = less problem = NO PROBLEM. Agree? |
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Sep 19 2013, 10:04 AM
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Sep 19 2013, 09:47 AM) Bull shit. Maybe he forget to post Brand New KIA Forte with ESP turn turtle on straight road in Singapore (As what Jayraptor call corkscrews flip)...lol...Those pics are photochopped. F1 cars also can turn turtle. So are you saying that F1 cars are no good? |
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Sep 19 2013, 10:12 AM
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expected la
korean cars how to match our vios? |
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Sep 19 2013, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE(EP6CDTM @ Sep 19 2013, 10:12 AM) expected la Don't under estimate the power of kimchi! korean cars how to match our vios? |
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Sep 19 2013, 10:38 AM
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6,659 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: KL/PJ/USJ/Puchong/KKB, Sel.
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QUOTE(Ray9300 @ Sep 19 2013, 02:00 AM) Why are so many people bashing vios ? the bnr32, bcnr33 and bnr34 may have the same engine code, but they are quite different in every generation. there are plenty of new updates in the mechanical areas for that 3 generation models. there are plenty more technical differences that is not mention in wikipedia, but its more than enough to make the differences. vios? same engine and gearbox without even increase in power or torque. lol.Some said its a car for ahbeng ahseng , and god spec and many more. I visited paultan website today reading about the new 2013 vios , when I go to the comment section , so many people complaining the car lack of safety over priced and using the same engine for more than 10 years , isn't Nissan gtr also using same rb26 engine for r32 r33 r34 . And some more complain about the old 4 speed auto gear box. Hmm I really hope someone can write me a detail explanation of what is going on . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Skyline_GT-R |
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Sep 19 2013, 10:41 AM
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spec wise - vios is entry level for toyota...that's why toyota doesn't seems care to 'upgrade' the new engine, just use the old one then just put new face on it.
price wise - it is ONLY in malaysia that the vios price is high, basically u take loan, half of it just to pay the excise duties & taxes in conclusion, price-to-spec ratio for vios is quite bad if based on facts & figures. if based on perception & brand....vios is a go-to-car  |
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Sep 19 2013, 10:42 AM
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Just wondering, if vois is a good car. why we don't see the car in Europe / US / Japan / Canada ?
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Sep 19 2013, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE(ws_lim83 @ Sep 19 2013, 10:42 AM) Just wondering, if vois is a good car. why we don't see the car in Europe / US / Japan / Canada ? I see a lot in thailand.xD |
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Sep 19 2013, 10:46 AM
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standard vios topup with TRD emblem = mark up price = customer pawned ...
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Sep 19 2013, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Sep 19 2013, 09:37 AM) To me, Vios is the one and only best cars selling in Malaysia. nice sarcastic Reason: realiable good handling safety rating good comfort NVH the best, even better than a 5 series cheap to maintain maybe no need to maintain, Toyota won't spoil one good pick up good performance and finally, good RV. some will buy Toyota cars as an investment. buy RM80K, 2 years later sell RM100K. So i'm in the same boat as you, why are so many people bashing vios ? only true car lovers and car experts will love the Vios.  |
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Sep 19 2013, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE(SurFerZ @ Sep 19 2013, 10:44 AM) I see a lot in thailand.xD only Thailand, Msia, Indo, and singapore i guess... if the car well accepted, it should see in other big country. Especially Japan. |
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Sep 19 2013, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE(EP6CDTM @ Sep 19 2013, 10:12 AM) expected la of course cannot. kimchis are a class aheadkorean cars how to match our vios? |
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Sep 19 2013, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE(fireballs @ Sep 19 2013, 10:50 AM) of course cannot. kimchis are a class ahead at least kimchi car was seen in US. http://www.kia.com/us/#/rio |
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Sep 19 2013, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE(joesniper @ Sep 19 2013, 10:46 AM) standard vios topup with TRD emblem = mark up price = customer pawned ... The funny thing is a lot of jokers are still buying it. |
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Sep 19 2013, 10:55 AM
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Apart for fuel consumption, I dont see why I want Vios and so regret to get this car.
I am driving it since last year May and now there are noise coming out. Prior to vios, I am driving Getz and Matrix which do not gv me problem for 5 years. |
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