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 Why is Vios no good ? So many bashers

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post Sep 19 2013, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(amad108 @ Sep 19 2013, 09:26 AM)
so many basher ?
4 speed gbx toyota known its reliability n perform well with its current engine.. well its FC its good until now..
quality is good, well there would be some lemon but still acceptable
after sales service depend on place.. but mostly is very good..
as for ESP or other safety thing, even without it still they have a very good sales, so why need to bother? (for them la i think)
if we demand those gadget n safety features, we need to show to toyota so they would know..
i use vios from 2008, so far no major problem.. only 1 wheel bearing n 1 pair absorber been replaced..
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yup, the keyword == proven technology

being it 20 or 50 years, proven means reliability whistling.gif
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post Sep 19 2013, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Sep 19 2013, 09:40 AM)
Correct.
Proven technology

When something is already perfect, there's nothing else to be improved/changed.
Same goes to this Toyota engine and gearbox.  Proven good.  It's already perfected.

Some may think that cars that always come out with new engine is good. 

So why some are complaining that Toyota cars are still using the same old engine and gb?
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Exactly.

Look at the reliability reports, toyota always world no 1

I heard la

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post Sep 19 2013, 09:45 AM

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ESP are for sissy who know nuts about handling

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post Sep 19 2013, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(kww @ Sep 19 2013, 08:54 AM)
On the good side;
It is basically bullet proof, it been on for millions of km around the world in every situation. If it is not broken, don't fix it. Also people value RV more than anything else, safety is maybe 2nd or 3rd priority.

On the bad side;
It is very dated, boring, price is on the high side, safety is lacking.

One thing I got to give credit to Toyota, their after sales service is best I have experience.
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look, his vios ran millions of kms without problem too

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post Sep 19 2013, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(sevendogz @ Sep 19 2013, 09:47 AM)
I am not sure how anyone could have such opinion but I've test driven the Vios, it's handling is bad, NVH is worse than many, pick up is terrible and performance is bad
I know vios is not a bad car but as you can see, Iphone 5c and 5s is not bad either but while other keep on improving and LISTEN to consumers but Vios keeps standing on the same ground for YEARS, and that sucks
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that's because the iphone is not perfect, but vios is thumbup.gif

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post Sep 19 2013, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Sep 19 2013, 09:47 AM)
Bull shit.
Those pics are photochopped.

F1 cars also can turn turtle.
So are you saying that F1 cars are no good?
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driver problem, doing stunts has nothing to do with the cars nod.gif
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post Sep 19 2013, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(fireballs @ Sep 19 2013, 09:49 AM)
esp not important? well, those get killed wont be able to share their story here
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so are vios owners, so perfect what else to grunt in public forums? thumbup.gif
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post Sep 19 2013, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Sep 19 2013, 09:49 AM)
NVH is worse??  Are you sure?  or maybe i have hearing problem.    tongue.gif

Handling is the best so far.  SO many cars i've tested, Vios gives me the confidence to sweep the corners at 40kmh.  Stick to the road like a train on the rail.  Best!
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DBKL/MPSJ/MBSA will be happy when you passby. You're doing their work with your vios.

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post Sep 19 2013, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Sep 19 2013, 09:51 AM)
Agree!!!!
I will be happy if the next Vios or altis comes with two speeder...forward and reverse.
like I said, less gears = less shifting = less moving parts = less problem = NO PROBLEM.

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maybe they will remove the reverse gear too to improve reliability laugh.gif
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post Sep 19 2013, 09:57 AM

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tebo more parts, less reliabity

nothing to boost when the proven engine is perfect, right?


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post Sep 19 2013, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(fireballs @ Sep 19 2013, 09:58 AM)
years ago, 3 speed auto was standard. really nothing wrong with it. stable, hardly break down. just fc is a bit high. but those days at rm1/liter, who cares?

fast forward to today, 5 speed is standard, and cvt is gaining ground, all in the name of improving fc.

so, seriously there is nothing wrong with a 4 speed. just the fc could be even better.
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vios can do 20km/L with 4 speeder, what else you do want? rclxub.gif
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post Sep 19 2013, 10:12 AM

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expected la

korean cars how to match our vios?
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post Sep 19 2013, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(brianccg @ Sep 19 2013, 10:55 AM)
Apart for fuel consumption, I dont see why I want Vios and so regret to get this car.

I am driving it since last year May and now there are noise coming out.

Prior to vios, I am driving Getz and Matrix which do not gv me problem for 5 years.
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how can? you're comparing kimchi with god car here vmad.gif
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post Sep 19 2013, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(fireballs @ Sep 19 2013, 10:58 AM)
vios also in usa, named yaris sedan/belta
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but they discontinued the sedan model aka our vios cry.gif
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post Sep 19 2013, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(zeus2005 @ Sep 19 2013, 11:24 AM)
LOL, yet still got ppl here comparing the vios with skyline. i think those toyota dugong fanbois really think their car is comparable/same league with those real sport cars.
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1.5L VVTI 4 speed > 3.5L GTR 6 speed

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post Sep 19 2013, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Sep 19 2013, 11:32 AM)
hello,
can we compare vios to previous version of Swift? I ask because i am comparing these 2 in terms of city driving, maintenance, handling etc. pls no laugh at me, just getting some money ready to change my blm + kelisa.

how?
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vios > GTR, so what is a swift here? icon_idea.gif
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post Sep 19 2013, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Sep 19 2013, 11:36 AM)
Below is a picture of a VIOS after taking a corner at 70kmh
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Fiesta can anot????!!!!  icon_idea.gif
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wow!!

vios > space ship now

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post Sep 19 2013, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Sep 19 2013, 12:33 PM)
The GT-R engine was refined, and it is a brilliant engine. The Vios engine not so much.

Also the main problem is that while overseas Toyota offers 6 or 7 airbags and ESP as a standard, it comes with 2 airbags and no ESP in Malaysia. At a time where competitors for a similar price tag (they carry a similar price tag overseas too) come with 6-7 airbags and ESP in Malaysia.

You get a slightly improved Saga, but you pay 2x as much. Why...? At least competitors are offering something for the price increase.

I can understand the thinking at Toyota, and I might do the same (though I do think they are trying to milk the cow too much, at some point that will backfire and cause problems in future. Better stay ahead of the curve). But that also means I can't recommend the Vios.

A Pentium 4 is proven technology. You still want to use a Pentium 4? No. Cause things have become better, faster, more efficient. An i5 will run circles around a P4, at the same price (new) but with much lower power consumption. Or a Nokia 3210. Very solid. Very reliable. Can use for 50 years probably. What do you buy then? 3210 or Galaxy S4/iPhone 5S/HTC One/Lumia 1020 if they are the same price?

The Toyota Prius is no 1 perhaps. Not some cut throat downgraded ASEAN model.

When I sat in a Vios I didn't think the ride was good, and it was bloody noisy inside (the car might be lowered a bit though). My Kangoo is clearly not as noisy or uncomfortable. Though I haven't tried the new Vios, maybe it is better. If yes, then congrats for making a car that is a bit better than a panel van designed 15 years ago thumbup.gif

Btw., if a CVT can imitate immediate gear shifts, it should be able to do those any time, no? It should anytime be able to drop the ratio quickly... simulating a limited amount of gears just sounds stupid to me. It only makes people hear the wrooom sound and feel a jerk so they think it's faster.
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how can you compare a van to our god car? vmad.gif
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post Sep 19 2013, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Sep 19 2013, 01:27 PM)
You think i'm trolling around?
Let me ask you.  You got a Vios?
Those comments i made about a car is from my experience of owning a Vios for the past 12 years.
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and i bet you spend RM0 to maintain it right?
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post Sep 19 2013, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Sep 19 2013, 01:32 PM)
just do regular engine oil change and gearbox ATF change
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huh?

i was told with god car you don't need to service too rclxub.gif

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