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 Why is Vios no good ? So many bashers

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post Sep 19 2013, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Sep 19 2013, 09:40 AM)
Correct.
Proven technology

When something is already perfect, there's nothing else to be improved/changed.
Same goes to this Toyota engine and gearbox.  Proven good.  It's already perfected.

Some may think that cars that always come out with new engine is good. 

So why some are complaining that Toyota cars are still using the same old engine and gb?
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Exactly.

Look at the reliability reports, toyota always world no 1

I heard la

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post Sep 19 2013, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(amad108 @ Sep 19 2013, 09:26 AM)
so many basher ?
4 speed gbx toyota known its reliability n perform well with its current engine.. well its FC its good until now..
quality is good, well there would be some lemon but still acceptable
after sales service depend on place.. but mostly is very good..
as for ESP or other safety thing, even without it still they have a very good sales, so why need to bother? (for them la i think)
if we demand those gadget n safety features, we need to show to toyota so they would know..
i use vios from 2008, so far no major problem.. only 1 wheel bearing n 1 pair absorber been replaced..
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CORRECT!

the 4 speed gearbox is a perfect invention. Well engineered. So no need anymore improvement.

ESP? Who needs ESP when the car is well designed and stable? Cars with ESP are cars that are not stable, etc etc.
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post Sep 19 2013, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Sep 19 2013, 09:41 AM)
Why some cars need tebo?
Because the engine is not powerful enough.  Hence need tebo.

Toyota engines are powerful.  Hence dun need tebo.
get it?
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is it? so all subaru and lambo not powerfull la?? tebo is extra added option to give power la. if vios get tebo then how much the cost then? 100K??
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post Sep 19 2013, 09:45 AM

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ESP are for sissy who know nuts about handling

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post Sep 19 2013, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(NINJIAO @ Sep 19 2013, 07:33 AM)
Waaaaaaattttt they still give 4 speed autobox? Lolz wat a rip off.
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What's wrong with 4 speed? The car can still move from A to B. Yes?

why some cars need 6 speed la, 8 speed la?
because of their lousy design...lousy ratio.

Toyota gearbox are well known for being efficient. Engineered to perfection. Ratio well calculated.
Hence, it just need a 4 speed.

More over, less gears = less shifting = less moving parts = less problems = NO PROBLEM!

get it?
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post Sep 19 2013, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(Ray9300 @ Sep 19 2013, 03:00 AM)
Why are so many people bashing vios ?

Some said its a car for ahbeng ahseng , and god spec and many more.

I visited paultan website today reading about the new 2013 vios , when I go to the comment section , so many people complaining the car lack of safety over priced and using the same engine for more than 10 years , isn't Nissan gtr also using same rb26 engine for r32 r33 r34 . And some more complain about the old 4 speed auto gear box.

Hmm I really hope someone can write me a detail explanation of what is going on .
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God spec also consider bashing ah? rclxub.gif And u can take vios compare with Nissan gtr... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(EP6CDTM @ Sep 19 2013, 09:45 AM)
ESP are for sissy who know nuts about handling

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CORRECT!
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post Sep 19 2013, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Sep 19 2013, 09:37 AM)
To me, Vios is the one and only best cars selling in Malaysia.
Reason:
realiable
good handling
safety rating good
comfort
NVH the best, even better than a 5 series
cheap to maintain
maybe no need to maintain, Toyota won't spoil one
good pick up
good performance

and finally, good RV.  some will buy Toyota cars as an investment.  buy RM80K, 2 years later sell RM100K.

So i'm in the same boat as you, why are so many people bashing vios ?
only true car lovers and car experts will love the Vios.
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I am not sure how anyone could have such opinion but I've test driven the Vios, it's handling is bad, NVH is worse than many, pick up is terrible and performance is bad
I know vios is not a bad car but as you can see, Iphone 5c and 5s is not bad either but while other keep on improving and LISTEN to consumers but Vios keeps standing on the same ground for YEARS, and that sucks
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QUOTE(acbc @ Sep 19 2013, 08:40 AM)
If u want to fly suddenly or overturn turtle, please buy a Vios. Don't say we didn't warn u.
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Bull shit.
Those pics are photochopped.

F1 cars also can turn turtle.
So are you saying that F1 cars are no good?

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post Sep 19 2013, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(kww @ Sep 19 2013, 08:54 AM)
On the good side;
It is basically bullet proof, it been on for millions of km around the world in every situation. If it is not broken, don't fix it. Also people value RV more than anything else, safety is maybe 2nd or 3rd priority.

On the bad side;
It is very dated, boring, price is on the high side, safety is lacking.

One thing I got to give credit to Toyota, their after sales service is best I have experience.
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look, his vios ran millions of kms without problem too

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post Sep 19 2013, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(sevendogz @ Sep 19 2013, 09:47 AM)
I am not sure how anyone could have such opinion but I've test driven the Vios, it's handling is bad, NVH is worse than many, pick up is terrible and performance is bad
I know vios is not a bad car but as you can see, Iphone 5c and 5s is not bad either but while other keep on improving and LISTEN to consumers but Vios keeps standing on the same ground for YEARS, and that sucks
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that's because the iphone is not perfect, but vios is thumbup.gif

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post Sep 19 2013, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Sep 19 2013, 09:46 AM)
What's wrong with 4 speed?  The car can still move from A to B.  Yes?

why some cars need 6 speed la, 8 speed la?
because of their lousy design...lousy ratio.

Toyota gearbox are well known for being efficient.  Engineered to perfection.  Ratio well calculated.
Hence, it just need a 4 speed. 

More over, less gears = less shifting = less moving parts = less problems = NO PROBLEM!

get it?
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Agreed. Nothing much wrong with 4 speed.

Except that if u are those "racer" that likes to speed, then it will eat more petrol compared to 5 gear or more gear box.
But then again, how fast can u drive?
For example, my Altis has 7 speed but i doubt its running at 6th gear when im driving at 140kmh
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Sep 19 2013, 09:47 AM)
Bull shit.
Those pics are photochopped.

F1 cars also can turn turtle.
So are you saying that F1 cars are no good?
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driver problem, doing stunts has nothing to do with the cars nod.gif
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QUOTE(sevendogz @ Sep 19 2013, 09:47 AM)
I am not sure how anyone could have such opinion but I've test driven the Vios, it's handling is bad, NVH is worse than many, pick up is terrible and performance is bad
I know vios is not a bad car but as you can see, Iphone 5c and 5s is not bad either but while other keep on improving and LISTEN to consumers but Vios keeps standing on the same ground for YEARS, and that sucks
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NVH is worse?? Are you sure? or maybe i have hearing problem. tongue.gif

Handling is the best so far. SO many cars i've tested, Vios gives me the confidence to sweep the corners at 40kmh. Stick to the road like a train on the rail. Best!
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esp not important? well, those get killed wont be able to share their story here
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QUOTE(EP6CDTM @ Sep 19 2013, 09:48 AM)
that's because the iphone is not perfect, but vios is  thumbup.gif
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post Sep 19 2013, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(fireballs @ Sep 19 2013, 09:49 AM)
esp not important? well, those get killed wont be able to share their story here
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so are vios owners, so perfect what else to grunt in public forums? thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Sep 19 2013, 09:49 AM)
Agreed. Nothing much wrong with 4 speed.

Except that if u are those "racer" that likes to speed, then it will eat more petrol compared to 5 gear or more gear box.
But then again, how fast can u drive?
For example, my Altis has 7 speed but i doubt its running at 6th gear when im driving at 140kmh
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Agree!!!!
I will be happy if the next Vios or altis comes with two speeder...forward and reverse.
like I said, less gears = less shifting = less moving parts = less problem = NO PROBLEM.

Agree?
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Sep 19 2013, 09:49 AM)
NVH is worse??  Are you sure?  or maybe i have hearing problem.    tongue.gif

Handling is the best so far.  SO many cars i've tested, Vios gives me the confidence to sweep the corners at 40kmh.  Stick to the road like a train on the rail.  Best!
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go test drive ford fiesta s, the direct competitor to vios, NVH is much better and can sweep corner at 70kmh
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Sep 19 2013, 09:49 AM)
NVH is worse??  Are you sure?  or maybe i have hearing problem.    tongue.gif

Handling is the best so far.  SO many cars i've tested, Vios gives me the confidence to sweep the corners at 40kmh.  Stick to the road like a train on the rail.  Best!
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DBKL/MPSJ/MBSA will be happy when you passby. You're doing their work with your vios.

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