Some say 18-year-old Corolla AE101's 5 speed manual gearbox shifts even better than latest Preve manual.
I am not surprised.

@gold member: Why can Kia offer the Rio at 75k, similar drivetrain to the Vios, but with 6 airbags and ESP? Why can Ford offer the Fiesta LX Sedan for 83k or so, with 7 airbags, ESP and a 6 speed DSG (which is more expensive than a 4 or even 6 speed torque converter)? Keep in mind that the Yaris, at similar specs to its competitors, costs a similar price overseas. But here it is about as expensive, but nowhere near as well speced.

@gkl83: ESP was perfected like 10 years ago. It has been in use in cars for 18 years now, it could have its own driving license! 6 airbags were standard overseas more than 10 years ago even in base spec C segment cars (meaning 75 hp).

@chongkiatz: The Prius C has a bigger boot opening though. Not sure if a baby car can fit... once you fold a seat sure can. And yes, you'll have to extend the budget a bit and bargain with the SA... but since the Prius C doesn't seem to be selling so well there's hope it can be had for a good price.

@skyblu3: What's your phone?

If you care so much about second hand value, BUY A EFFING SECOND HAND CAR! Seriously... some people. A car is not an investment, and if you care so much about money, buy a 1-2 year old second hand car. It is almost new, and it is much cheaper (if you avoid the Toyota badge). Still got warranty etc. The first year or two the drop is the worst... after that it evens out. Buy second hand makes other suffer through the drop. Just looked at Mudah. 6 month old Freed, 88k. With bodykit and all. 3 year old Freed: 80k. New around 100k? 110?

Also, if you care about money: What if someone causes you to have an accident. He can drive away, but you crash cause your car doesn't handle well. At that point the better handling Fiesta with ESP becomes much cheaper to own than the Vios that needs an expensive repair (and best thing is you can't claim someone elses insurance). Of what if you have a crash, again caused by someone else, that leaves you disabled or dead? Who will earn money then? What about the medical bills? A better handling car could have helped you avoid the accident, a safer car would give you fewer injuries, enabling you to continue working.
Very short sighted thinking.

Driving a safe car isn't an invitation to drive like an idiot. You can die in ANY car if you just try hard enough. We are talking about driving at legal speeds, and then an accident happens. Same speed, but one time it's a Vios, one time it's a Fiesta. In the Fiesta you'll simply have better chances of walking away. There was recently a crash between a Honda Accord (old one) and a Tesla Model S. The crash was probably caused by a 3rd party, the most innocent of them all were the Honda passengers. Everyone in the Honda died. The Tesla driver opened his door and got out of his car, with a few scratches. And that result is NO surprise at all. The perhaps safest car in the world right now vs an 80s or 90s car, of course this would be the result.

Keep in mind that not all accidents are caused by the driver... often 1 party involved is innocent, and that person couldn't avoid the accident.

Yes, the Vios is a basic car. There is nothing wrong with that. But charging 80k? As much as other, much more sophisticated cars? Daylight robbery. The lowest spec should be at most 60k, then it'd be ok (though the Saga is much more worth it).

Oh yes, and I do not care about the FC. I could save fuel if I wanted to... can't be bothered. Petrol prices are still very low. And if you care about FC... drive a manual, learn to drive it properly, and learn how to drive in a fuel saving way. You can drive with a lower consumption than even the official numbers suggest.

Also, RV is never a fixed thing. Talk to Honda Jazz owners about RV... They'll either cry or punch you in the face. Expected good RV, but now it is bad. The Forte RV is not so bad I believe, Fiesta is also holding up quite well. 2011 Fiesta S around 63k, 2011 Vios TRD around 62k. One I even saw for 57k. Good RV for the Vios? Bad RV for the Fiesta? The TRD was more expensive when new.

This post has been edited by kadajawi: Sep 19 2013, 11:40 PM

Talk so much do what? Buy a Vios to experience it's powah! Reliability! So what it's an old engine old gear box? Car is strong enough don't even need a bloody air bag! Go sit at the toilet bowl and think again, who needs an air bag?! Cars that prune to accident/local made milo tin/crazily heavy FC until beh tahan wanna crash the car to the wall/tree and claim total loss. Who give an idea Vios 10 year old kenot use the same setup? You bunch of Plotong owner ma same ar, ranjiao Campor engine since Gen2 use until today Prebet/Saprima still using the same engine. Shame on you ler. Vios only use the same setup for 1 same line of business, you Plotong peepur sumore dare² plonk the same engine across all models from GienTiu to Personga, from Exohai to Prebet, from GaGa to Saplima. Only cigaolanxin peepur will bai a ranjiao Plotong car. Resell value like crap. 1 day buy car RM49k so hepi, next year before 1 full year already sold car for RM37k

Please buy VIOS

rather drive my nissan sunny than drive a vios lagi cheap maintainence and good FC. Another things is i don't need installment!!!

I can fetch my grandma & grandpa, wife + my baby with bigger boots not only can fit baby car , and alot of other stuff with VIOS

if i fold down the seat in PRIUS C , then my grandma & grandpa gonna walk from Point A to Point B le




U wan VIOS charging for 60k ? Then u move to tomyamland , this is bolehland U can't expect they pricing lower than PROTON If vios sell at 60k , Preve eat shit liao


Who say ppl dont care about FC? U go showroom and survey , 9/10 ppl first question ask S.A "Ini kereta jimat minyak?" , 2nd is "Spare part dan Service maintenance mahal tak?"

U also got eyes see in this forum right? Average every week ppl open new thread ask about

This car FC , Maintenance How? FC , Maintenance , FC , Maintenance..........................in the end stil FC and Maintenance Face it , that reality , majority ppl stil care more about FC , Maintenance

If FC not important , why do they offer hybrid car

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Sep 19 2013, 11:55 PM

well said.

Lets talk about the selling point vios claim

RV king
I wanna see any Vios can beat property's RV in Klang Valley.

FC king
I know someone can do 6.35L/100km in FC, I really interested to see can any Vios driver beat him. Btw he's in same segment but not Vios.

Don't be too technical, anyone ride mountain bike before? Mountain vs normal aunti bike, which can pickup faster and use less energy? Shiftng vs no shifting capability.

They have a modular factory system for MQB cars, they can have one factory push out different models on one production line depending on demand, and the factory system apparently also makes it easier to set up new factories, increase production output, ...

Also most of their engines are turbocharged, and they are in demand overseas.

It seems to me as if VW has really set an eye on the Malaysian market (maybe keen to kick the governments/Protons a**?), while Ford isn't nearly as determined at making it on the Malaysian market.

The US Fiesta will be produced in Thailand? Really? wow. I guess they plan to increase their production output in Thailand, cause otherwise there is no way they can meet demand.

Btw., I'd be spending 80k on a Fiesta LX Sedan or, more likely, buy a few year old Honda Freed because I need those sliding doors. If it weren't for that and had to be new, Fiesta or Rio. Usually I prefer to get a second hand car though, so probably a Skoda Octavia II. One of the last VW with torque converter, so reliability shouldn't be too much of an issue. Also got tons of money left for repairs and petrol, plus it's spacious, powerful, comfortable and safe.

Good for them. Get some exercise. Also only need to fold down one seat. So still got 4 seats left... they can take turns walking.

There is no reason why the Vios should cost as much as it does. It removes quite a lot compared to competitors (and the Vios in other markets), they should have no issue offering it with all the safety features it has in other markets without a price hike... the only reason why they aren't doing it is customers are willing to pay for it. But for how long? Honda already had to drop its prices quite a bit (goodbye RV), Toyota also dropped it with the Altis (and I doubt the next one is just around the corner, with no prototypes being spied yet). Those things aren't good for the RV. If the Vios is upgraded to a continental safety standard (they could easily do that) that again is not good for the RV of current Vioses.

Same with the new gen accord too bro , 2.0 accord only have 2 airbag , RM140k++ car with 2 airbag only? Even worse is 2.4 with 4 Airbag Rm170k car bro Compared to thailand which come with 6 airbag right?

Did u ever think a Myvi ? RM47k ? That also totally a bullshit , damn many farking problem after 3 year ownership. Not worse at all. Handling like SHIT


But what to do? Ini bolehland , u mou beli then beli la , tak mou beli dengan harga nih balik china la (favourite words from our LOVELY government ) atau tumpang tomyamland lah

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Sep 20 2013, 12:43 AM

well most of them drive the vios like aunties. what for safety features. might as well buy a bicycle.

Lu orang tak tau bersyukur langsung !
Apa lagi lu mau ?!

you delusional vios owners open such a thread, sure kena whack by more rational and wise car owners one.

you all hoping to get all of the delusional vios owners to come here and pat each other's backsides and keep on bluffing to yourselves?

come on la.... regret say regret la... cheap arsed car, but you all pay 80k which is ridiculously expensive.

oh ya, the coincidence, just now, when it was in my right of way, a dumb arsed vios driver had to cut in front of me like a true arse hole. This is simply the type of vios ah beng ah seng driver. inconsiderate, arrogant and stupid.

I work at Toyota service center previously so I know the in and out of a Vios more than the owners themselves since I have access to advance manual and practically work on them 8 to 10 Vios per day. but I choose not to buy a Vios. No need to ask me why.

ah beng ah seng just ignore them , there is alot of ah beng ah seng GTR owner too , u will see more ah beng VIOS because majority VIOS is more than GTR / other car , but in my town area , normally won't meet too much ah beng ah seng vios



Not only VIOS is overprice la bang , alot of other car also overprice , depend how u look on it , otherland pay RM165k to get CBU BMW 320i , we need to pay RM200k++ for CKD BMW 320i with crappy construction of interior , the OVERPRICE debate is never end U win some , u lose some

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Sep 20 2013, 12:58 AM

that's what i did to corners. what is 40kmh corner?


Bro, I salute your patient to educate them. Really salute you man, 100%.

Some people are just emotional. Let it be, rational one knows what is best for them.

Do you notice vios driver usually drives recklessly, young one, most of them are Ah Beng, uneducated group, emotional.
Old one, uncles, I cant blame them because some of them might not know T is ripping them, they don't research much but to follow their surroundings.

I don't hate the car, I'm just pissed with the drivers and the T that ripping ppl off with such bullshit price tag, the new "facelift" even dare to increase their price. Well, that's business.

This post has been edited by helven: Sep 20 2013, 01:07 AM

Working in Toyota SC doesn't mean that you know about Vios.
Oh boy. You were commenting as if you are driving one. I really thought you drive a Vios.

If I want to know about a certain car, I will ask the ppl whom are driving that car and not listen to those "I heard from my friend", "I heard, I heard", etc

Very well said.

If you want a real car, buy a Vios.
Proven technology
Proven engine
Proven gearbox
Safety rating high
Stable
Comfort
Good looks
RV so good that you can actually make an investment out of it
Girls will go for guys driving Vios
and lastly...POWER!

At the end, vios still selling like a hot cake =x

so you think u know more than him??? i think u dun even dare to touch the engine,