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 The makeover of my humble abode, Sharing my renovation journey

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post Apr 8 2014, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(maxxon @ Apr 8 2014, 04:53 AM)
Don't leave out any corner ar? Perhaps need to video tour lor like that! Hahaha!
Yup, i was too optimistic on the timing earlier, coz I was rushing for wedding. Then it was year end and CNY pulak... Most vendors including kitchen cab has got full schedule and need to wait till after CNY...
Although everything seems ready or going to be ready...but don't be surprise that it will take more time that you could have expected to make good of the 'little-little' part here and there... Things could be faster and easier if you are not as detail and OCD (obssesive-compulsive disorder). I'm not 100% OCD but i think almost 85-90% already...  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
Furthermore, my main con seems to get busy already since he has started some other project. So, i'm getting worker on and off sometimes...

However, mine has really coming very close to the end.... Minor things left for the main con and my furniture are slowly coming in starting from this week. 

However, it's similar to the start work's timing when It was delayed one month to avoid the 7th lunar calendar month; now that old ppl are telling me again to avoid Ching Beng month....... sweat.gif
It's 2'x2' tiles from White Horse.  smile.gif
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yes !!!! old ppl telling me to avoid the ching beng month too. i delay a bit too, but not much. chose 1st may. rclxm9.gif

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post Apr 8 2014, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(maxxon @ Apr 8 2014, 04:27 AM)
Washing machine and placement:-
Yup, it's fully imported from Germany. Bought it some times ago during a massive warehouse sales in Harvey Norman when they are clearing stock to move the main warehouse. It was still a new model that time selling in store for RM4899, but I got it at RM3300. The price that I checked last 2 months in their store is still over RM4k... You may want to check the latest price again..
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The anti-vibration design at side panel.
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The socket still can be switched off from the extra switch linked to it above the table top. The initial water outlet has been cut off but I didn't close up the outlet entirely to standby it for future usage just in case. Both in and outlet are from the cabinet compartment next to it so that it allows more room to slot in the washing machine and keep the machine protruding part minimal.
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In the picture, from the the left most is the inlet for washer, inlet for kitchen taps, outlet for both washer and sink tap and right most is the stop cock. Will show the plumbing work once it's done and the hole will be covered up with foam to avoid cockcroaches....
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wow thats very cheap.. good deal u had there ! what do u think of electrolux and bosch brand? which would be a better option ?
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post Apr 9 2014, 02:34 AM

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QUOTE(azleena @ Apr 8 2014, 07:19 AM)
kitchen palace is on my list of potential kitchen contractors... may I ask how come you went for wardrobe with them, and not kitchen? Just because of expo price of Maxime?
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I booked Maxime long ago before I hired Kitchen Palace. Went to their showroom and got to know that they have very limited designs for wardrobe. All swing wardrobes but none of the sliding type which I prefer. Moreover, I also feel like to avoid hiring them for everything. Who knows if thing turns bad, my damage will be double. With the intention to diversify the risk, I source for another vendor for my wardrobe.

Dealing with Kitchen Palace, although they seems impressive and convincing, you still gotta be very careful on details and make sure you ask about the material and spec that you will be getting. I was quite impressed with their showroom's sample and asked for a quotation base on my measurement. If you don't ask, they will just quote you thier standard material but not according to the sample that you are looking at. If you thought they are quoting you per the 'thing' that you see, you will definitely have a heart attact when you find out the disputes when they come for installation later.

For example, if you don't ask, their quotation will be based on standard white color carcass intead of the laminate melamine carcass that you see in the showroom. They will quote you standard door frame, carcass not entirely up to the ceiling height, etc...unlike the impressive sample. They don't bother to tell you unless you ask, then they will say do like that need to top up money, like this also need to top up money.....
Perhaps, we just got to be very careful on details and ask alot, not only when dealing with this vendor but to all others too. flex.gif

Their wardrobe is so far ok, but I found a chipped mark of about 1.5cm on the melamine door panel. Called the boss and he immediately arranged for the replacement. When the other uncle came to take the chipped panel back, he spotted a flaw and told me that the installation guy did not fix the stopper for me.. doh.gif
So, I got the guy who came in to replace the panel a few days after that to fix the stopper for me.
Just when the boss rang me asking for the 10% remaining payment, I found the upper skirting is getting loose and dropped slightly. The slanting was kinda obvious. This time, the boss's son came for rectification. That skirting problem was due to lack of silicon holding. So he put some silicon and promised to come back to cut the excessive silicon (making it nicer) the next day after the silicon harden. Before he went off, my husband complaint that the end panel is shaky and asked him to tighten up with another screws. Initially, he said that won't help but mana tau, after adding a screw on the place my husband suggested, the panel is very firm and no more shaky. whistling.gif
The very same day, he asked for the 10% last payment and I paid it.......then I didn't see his shadow anymore (to come back for the silicon thing) despite two reminders sent by text and empty promises given of course.

Can you count how many times I need to go and meet them at the site for that simple 10' wardrobe? Four times! rclxub.gif
and he is actually missing in action for the 5th time.

So far, their wardrobe is ok. Just make sure you ask a lot during quotation and never ever pay in full before you are well satisfied with everything. Even for Maxime, their last payment supposed to be only 5% but I insisted to hold a 10% on hand before they deliver everything up to my expectation.

Sorry for the long post, when I go into details I just can't stop.... me like old granny already....sweat.gif sweat.gif

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Slightly dropped and slanted skirting


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Messy silicon left over which my husband need to make it nicer. Not too hard actually, just need to slightly swipe a cutter over and peel the excessive strips...However, the empty promises simply made the entire experience feels uneasy.


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post Apr 9 2014, 02:39 AM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Apr 8 2014, 08:26 AM)
another thing i notice.. wait a minute.. is that the foldable door thingy with the grill?? does that lead to back of the house???...
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Yup, there is a folding door and collapsible grill at the back which can be opened from wall-to-wall.

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post Apr 9 2014, 02:44 AM

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QUOTE(maxxon @ Apr 9 2014, 02:39 AM)
Yup, there is a folding door and collapsible grill at the back which can be opened from wall-to-wall.

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may i ask where did you get those pendants? they sure look nice in your kitchen. Looking for pendant light for my dry kitchen...
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post Apr 9 2014, 03:07 AM

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QUOTE(monkey9926 @ Apr 8 2014, 11:51 AM)
yes !!!! old ppl telling me to avoid the ching beng month too. i delay a bit too, but not much. chose 1st may.  rclxm9.gif
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I haven't decided on date yet...
Wish you smooth sailing! rclxms.gif


QUOTE(Like a Bause @ Apr 8 2014, 02:04 PM)
wow thats very cheap.. good deal u had there ! what do u think of electrolux and bosch brand? which would be a better option ?
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Yup, that was the best deal ever! Went there a few times to check when they have sales but still nothing near the price I've got.. icon_rolleyes.gif

I've no idea on the quality of Electrolux actually... I chose Bosch because I used it before when I live abroad. I've used the brand Hotpoint too but it is not available in Malaysia. If buying the top-loader, I won't mind any brand, but for front-loader I prefer to go for brands which have been long in such front-loader tech (more reliable I presume)....obviously not the new player samsung or panasonic.
If not mistaken, Electrolux produced front-loader and sell it in other countries eg. UK, in the name of AEG. You may try to check it out how long they have been producing this AEG washer and is it the same tech they are using here with the house brand Electrolux.

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post Apr 9 2014, 03:12 AM

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QUOTE(soR @ Apr 9 2014, 02:44 AM)
may i ask where did you get those pendants? they sure look nice in your kitchen. Looking for pendant light for my dry kitchen...
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This particular lights I got it from Tsen Lighting.
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post Apr 9 2014, 04:00 AM

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Some random updates:-

- Fridge
My 700L glass doors Toshiba fridge (GR-WG76MDA) just came in. Bought it at RM2500, together with all the Mitsubishi airconds.

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The clearance when its door is wide-opened. The placement near the island is good for me to put the unloaded things.


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Got a 12KG rice container and 2pcs Casserole ceramic cook pot as free gifts (for the bill together with airconds). It was supposed to be another thermal cooker but it was out of stock so they will try to get me one later. tongue.gif


- Outdoor ceiling light
I bought the following NSB light which allows me to use either an energy saving bulb or LED bulb. This light is going to be ON for many hours at night till dawn. It is an energy saving bulb to be started with, so that I can observe how long it can last, before deciding whether it's feasible/worth changing it to LED bulb.

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- Grunfos water pump (CM3-4PM) - RM1180
We thought the pump left behind by the previous owner is still working but it broke down just after we ran it for few minutes. It was definitely a bad news, means we just got another thing to spend money on.... sweat.gif
We headed straight away to Builders hardware looking for Zheilwane, knowing that they have the best price for Grunfos pump. Buying things from them is super time-saving. Why? Because No need to bargain, just mention 'chun-kao' in cantonese means 'best deal' and we've got the best price from him. thumbup.gif

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It also comes with an anti-vibration rubber pad to be placed underneath the pump.


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post Apr 9 2014, 05:39 AM

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QUOTE(maxxon @ Apr 9 2014, 04:00 AM)
Some random updates:-

- Fridge
My 700L glass doors Toshiba fridge (GR-WG76MDA) just came in. Bought it at RM2500, together with all the Mitsubishi airconds.

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The clearance when its door is wide-opened. The placement near the island is good for me to put the unloaded things.
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Got a 12KG rice container and 2pcs Casserole ceramic cook pot as free gifts (for the bill together with airconds). It was supposed to be another thermal cooker but it was out of stock so they will try to get me one later.  tongue.gif
- Outdoor ceiling light
I bought the following NSB light which allows me to use either an energy saving bulb or LED bulb. This light is going to be ON for many hours at night till dawn. It is an energy saving bulb to be started with, so that I can observe how long it can last, before deciding whether it's feasible/worth changing it to LED bulb.

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- Grunfos water pump (CM3-4PM) - RM1180
We thought the pump left behind by the previous owner is still working but it broke down just after we ran it for few minutes. It was definitely a bad news, means we just got another thing to spend money on....  sweat.gif
We headed straight away to Builders hardware looking for Zheilwane, knowing that they have the best price for Grunfos pump. Buying things from them is super time-saving. Why? Because No need to bargain, just mention 'chun-kao' in cantonese means 'best deal' and we've got the best price from him.  thumbup.gif

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It also comes with an anti-vibration rubber pad to be placed underneath the pump.
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the pump only rm1180? i tho this pump is 1.5k+

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post Apr 9 2014, 07:12 AM

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Thank you for the detailed explanation! Much appreciated for a newbie like me who doesn't know what to ask. I do need to go back to them anyway to get a new quotation for a different material (acrylic very $$$ cry.gif )and see how they will handle a new problem I have (realised the hood ducting may need to go out through a window as the "yard" appears to have a dropped ceiling, so not enough clearance for the ducting to go over the window!).

But since you mentioned that the quotation they gave you was not exactly what you asked for (standard height instead of ceiling height), did they not show you a plan or 3d plan of what you asked for? That was what impressed us about KP, they came back to us very fast with a 3d plan for the quotation.

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post Apr 9 2014, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(azleena @ Apr 9 2014, 07:12 AM)
Thank you for the detailed explanation! Much appreciated for a newbie like me who doesn't know what to ask. I do need to go back to them anyway to get a new quotation for a different material (acrylic very $$$  cry.gif )and see how they will handle a new problem I have (realised the hood ducting may need to go out through a window as the "yard" appears to have a dropped ceiling, so not enough clearance for the ducting to go over the window!).

But since you mentioned that the quotation they gave you was not exactly what you asked for (standard height instead of ceiling height), did they not show you a plan or 3d plan of what you asked for? That was what impressed us about KP, they came back to us very fast with a 3d plan for the quotation.
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Dear Maxxon,

Nice updates. Everything coming into place for you which is great.

Just wondering how much did you pay for the folding door that leads the outside house ? What was the size ? This was from Reliance ?

Thanks and best wishes...

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QUOTE(soR @ Apr 9 2014, 05:39 AM)
the pump only rm1180? i tho this pump is 1.5k+
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Yup, this price. Cash and carry~
Make sure you look for Zean himself but not his parent to get the best deal.
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QUOTE(maxxon @ Apr 9 2014, 04:00 AM)
Some random updates:-


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Is your kitchen cabinet finish install?

If you plan to have kids, the island cabinet top table extend out corner is abit dangerous. sweat.gif For children will bang his head or eye. For adult, that hurt stomach.

But if haven't finish, ignore it.
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QUOTE(maxxon @ Apr 9 2014, 11:27 AM)
Yup, this price. Cash and carry~
Make sure you look for Zean himself but not his parent to get the best deal.
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ya, deal with zen himself...i got my fotile hood/hub/oven from him, and future will be the outdoor POE filter....
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QUOTE(soR @ Apr 9 2014, 05:39 AM)
the pump only rm1180? i tho this pump is 1.5k+
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You didn't said the magic word. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(azleena @ Apr 9 2014, 07:12 AM)
Thank you for the detailed explanation! Much appreciated for a newbie like me who doesn't know what to ask. I do need to go back to them anyway to get a new quotation for a different material (acrylic very $$$  cry.gif )and see how they will handle a new problem I have (realised the hood ducting may need to go out through a window as the "yard" appears to have a dropped ceiling, so not enough clearance for the ducting to go over the window!).

But since you mentioned that the quotation they gave you was not exactly what you asked for (standard height instead of ceiling height), did they not show you a plan or 3d plan of what you asked for? That was what impressed us about KP, they came back to us very fast with a 3d plan for the quotation.
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I didn't have experience with them on kitchen cab though....coz I've already hired Maxime for the kit cab long before I got them. The carcass that I mentioned is the inner cabinet of wardrobe which is not till the ceiling top, but the end panel and doors yes, they are all the way to the top, covered up as full height. So, the drawing is ofcoz showing till the full height, but not mentioning the height of the inner carcass. Not even during the quotation. I only realised it when they came for installation.
I was looking at one of their sample wardrobe and asked them to quote for 10'W full height. So, they should have told me upfront what's the different spec from thier sample should I be expecting from the price they quoted.

And yes..the boss especially, sounds convicing and experienced. No big problem on the product though, just not a truely nice experience if I would say. You just got to be very specific on what you expect and ASK what's the spec and thing that you have been quoted.

Btw, you mentioned the duct need to pass thru the window...means you can't shut that window up? Or you are going to cut a round shape out from your window glass to allow it passing thru?


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QUOTE(canineslave @ Apr 9 2014, 10:27 AM)
Dear Maxxon,

Nice updates. Everything coming into place for you which is great.

Just wondering how much did you pay for the folding door that leads the outside house ? What was the size ? This was from Reliance ?

Thanks and best wishes...
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Thanks..
These info already posted earlier in my sharing. Post#386.
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post Apr 9 2014, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(maxxon @ Apr 9 2014, 11:55 AM)
I didn't have experience with them on kitchen cab though....coz I've already hired Maxime for the kit cab long before I got them. The carcass that I mentioned is the inner cabinet of wardrobe which is not till the ceiling top, but the end panel and doors yes, they are all the way to the top, covered up as full height. So, the drawing is ofcoz showing till the full height, but not mentioning the height of the inner carcass. Not even during the quotation. I only realised it when they came for installation.
I was looking at one of their sample wardrobe and asked them to quote for 10'W full height. So, they should have told me upfront what's the different spec from thier sample should I be expecting from the price they quoted.

And yes..the boss especially, sounds convicing and experienced. No big problem on the product though, just not a truely nice experience if I would say. You just got to be very specific on what you expect and ASK what's the spec and thing that you have been quoted.

Btw, you mentioned the duct need to pass thru the window...means you can't shut that window up? Or you are going to cut a round shape out from your window glass to allow it passing thru?
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Its like this... Here is the kitchen from the inside. The hob will go roughly where that left sink is, that sink will be taken out, leaving only the sink by the window. I was thinking that the ducting should go over the upper cabinet and over the window where it needs to run to the end of the "yard".
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But i was looking at pics the other day, and realized something about this pic taken from the outside looking at the "yard" and back of the kitchen:
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The ceiling at the yard area is much lower, don't think ducting will fit. I need to check with kitchen designers, but i am guessing one of those top square glass panes will have to come out... but then really ugly lor.... maybe I should cancel all my headaches and just settle for a recirculating hood... rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(fremont88 @ Apr 9 2014, 11:39 AM)
ya, deal with zen himself...i got my fotile hood/hub/oven from him, and future will be the outdoor POE filter....
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Yup. I think they have the best deals in town for:
- Fotile (even better if got it when they participate in a fair, so to bundle with the extra warranty and extra lucky draw gift from Fotile HQ.)

- Grunfos pumps

- Johnson Suisse WC and basins (I didn't get my JS Lago and Venezia and other JS basins from Zean as I've got a similar deal from Ga Hing after some nego, ordered sekaligus when I shopped for tiles. Btw, prices for JS taps and other JS accessories from Zean is not as good as Ga Hing's fair promotion price).

- 3M filter (i didn't get this brand)

- Cabana and Sorento (didn't get these either)

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QUOTE(maxxon @ Apr 9 2014, 12:22 PM)
Yup. I think they have the best deals in town for:
- Fotile (even better if got it when they participate in a fair, so to bundle with the extra warranty and extra lucky draw gift from Fotile HQ.)

- Grunfos pumps

- Johnson Suisse WC (I didn't get my JS Lago and Venezia from Zean as I've got a similar deal from Ga Hing after some nego, ordered sekaligus when I shopped for tiles. Btw, price for JS taps and other accessories from Zean is not as good as Ga Hing's fair promotion price).

- 3M filter (i didn't get this brand)

- Cabana and Sorento (didn't get these either)
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just bought 2 sets of JS como and a JS sink from builders. I didnt buy the accessories yet. I thought Builders have good price for JS until you mentioned Ga Hing on the accessories.
What were the accessories you bought from Gahing? their tiles cheap? what brand?

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