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post Sep 2 2013, 10:34 PM, updated 13y ago

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*** Unofficial Rules Of Man Utd Street Talks *** [Last Update: 6/3/2007]


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Picture taken from: http://www.stretfordend.co.uk/gloryglory.html

Honours

Premiership (13): 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2013
Division One Champions (7): 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965, 1967
Division Two Champions (2): 1936, 1975

European Cup/UEFA Champions League (3): 1968, 1999, 2008
European Cup-Winners' Cup (1): 1991
European Super Cup (1): 1991

FA Charity/Community Shield (19 (15 outright, 4 shared)): 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965*, 1967*, 1977*, 1983, 1990*, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011 (* = joint holders)
FA Cup Winners (11): 1909, 1948, 1963, 1977, 1983, 1985, 1990, 1994, 1996, 1999, 2004
League Cup Winners (4): 1992, 2006, 2009, 2010

Toyota Inter-continental Cup Winners (1): 1999
FIFA Club World Cup (1): 2008

Managers

A. H. Albut [1892 - 1900]
James West [1900 - September 1903]
Ernest Magnall [10 October 1903 - 9 September 1912]
T. J. Wallworth [9 September 1912 - 20 October 1912]
John Bentley [28 October 1912 - 28 December 1914]
John Robson [28 December 1914 - 31 October 1921]
John Chapman [31 October 1921 - 8 October 1926]
Clarence Hildrith [8 October 1926 - 13 April 1927]
Herbert Bamlett [13 April 1927 - 9 November 1931]
Walter Crickmer [9 November 1931 - 13 July 1932]
Scott Duncan [13 July 1932 - 7 November 1937]
Walter Crickmer [9 November 1937 - 15 February 1945]
Matt Busby [1 October 1945 - 11 June 1969]
Jimmy Murphy [February 1958 - June 1958]
Wilf McGuinness [11 June 1969 - 29 December 1970]
Matt Busby [29 December 1970 - 8 June 1971]
Frank O'Farrell [8 June 1971 - 19 December 1972]
Tommy Docherty [22 December 1972 - 4 July 1977]
Dave Sexton [14 July 1977 - 29 April 1981]
Ron Atkinson [9 June 1981 - 6 November 1986]
Sir Alex Ferguson [6 November 1986 - 30 June 2013]
David Moyes [01 July 2013 - Present]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Manch..._and_statistics

Record Home Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record Home Defeat: 1-7 v Newcastle United, 10/09/1927 [Division 1]

Record Away Win: 8-1 v Nottingham Forest, 06/02/1999
Record Away Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record League Win: 10-1 v Wolves, 15/10/1892 (Division 1)
Record League Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record Premier League Win: 9-0 v Ipswich Town, 04/03/1995
Record Premier League Defeat: 0-5 v Newcastle United, 20/10/1996 | 0-5 v Chelsea, 03/10/1999 | 1–6 v Manchester City, 23 October 2011

Record FA Cup Win: 8-0 v Yeovil Town, 12/02/1949
Record FA Cup Defeat: 1-7 v Burnley, 13/02/1901 [1st Round]

Record European Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record European Defeat: 0-5 v Sporting, 18/03/1964 [Cup Winners' Cup QF]

Record Champions League Win: 7-1 v Roma, 10/04/2007 [UCL QF, 2nd leg]

Record Home Attendance (At Old Trafford): 76,098 31/3/2007 Premier League (Man Utd vs Blackburn) (83,260 for United v Arsenal at Maine Road in 1948)

Record League Appearances: 659 (110) Ryan Giggs 1990 - Present (as of 06 May 2013) [940 (152) overall]

Record League Goalscorer: 199 [in 606 league appearances] Sir Bobby Charlton 1956/73

Record Transfer Fee Received: 80,000,000 pounds for Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid (July 2009)

Record Transfer Fee Paid: 30,750,000 pounds for Dimitar Berbatov from Tottenham (August 2008)


As the world's biggest and richest club, Manchester United reach a global fanbase.

Part of the attraction for fans around the world has been the football luminaries, such as George Best and Sir Bobby Charlton, who have graced the Old Trafford turf in a Manchester United shirt over the years.

Recently, Manchester United have continued to attract or develop some of the game's biggest names, with England stalwarts such as Paul Scholes and David Beckham having been regular fixtures in the Reds line-up.

The Manchester United team, past and present, reads like a who's who of world football.

It is only fitting that a great team should grace a great stadium. And with Old Trafford's recent development and the closure of Wembley, the ground is easily the largest in English football, holding in excess of 60,000 fans.

Despite this capacity, the demand to see United in action is so great that tickets are hard to come by.

But it isn't only Manchester United fans who flock to Old Trafford. The standard of the ground is such that it regularly hosts high-profile games, most notably, the Champions League Final and Great Britain rugby league games.

Rock fans have also made use of the Reds's facilities, watching a number of high-profile acts at the ground.

But it's football that will forever be synonymous with the Reds famous ground - and with good reason.

The last decade has seen Manchester United under the shrewd leadership of Sir Alex Ferguson maintain a virtual stranglehold on the Premiership crown.

Manchester United has won the league no fewer than 18 times in their history. They are also Cup Kings too, winning the FA cup 11 times, the league cup 4 times, as well as winning the European Super Cup, European Cup Winner's Cup, and 3 times being crowned European Cup champions.

Manchester United has long become a name associated with success both on and off the pitch.

As club profits continue to grow, Manchester United have become one of the richest sports clubs on the planet.

With supporters club branches on every continent, it's hard to go any where in the world and not see somebody wearing the famous red shirt of Manchester United.

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Nickname: The Red Devils

Ground: Old Trafford

Pitch Size: 116 x 76 yards (106.0704 x 69.4944 meter)

Capacity: 76,000

Address: Sir Matt Busby Way, Old Trafford, Manchester

Postcode: M160RA

Directions: From North: Leave the M60 at junction 12 for M602 (Salford / Manchester). At the end of M602 (Jtn 3) follow the signs for Salford Quays and Trafford Park. At the roundabout turn right into Trafford Road (A5063), then at the bridge over Manchester Ship canal, keep in the right hand lane and turn right. Next, follow this road round to Trafford Wharf Road, and then left onto Watersreach. Continue through the traffic lights onto Sir Matt Busby Way.

From South: Leave M6 at junction 19, then take the A56 towards Manchester Airport. Join the M56 to Manchester, going past the Airport and then follow the signs for the M60 (Leeds / Liverpool). Leave M60 at Jtn 7 (A56 Chester Road) following signs for Manchester United Football Club. Turn left into Sir Matt Busby Way.

Ticket prices: 25 pounds upwards, concessions from 12.50 pounds. Tickets for the home sections are usually only available to members of the club and are normally allocated by ballot.

Contact information: Ticket Office: 0161 868 8020
Main Telephone: 0161 868 8000

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QUOTE(zenix @ Nov 24 2009, 09:18 PM)
Hope Alien will sticky this info later.
Though written in 2006 so no Roy Keane yet.

Ex-United players that have moved on to become managers.

Written by Simon Stone (MARCH 22, 2006)

STEVE BRUCE (1987-1996): Took his first steps in management with Sheffield United in 1998, then swiftly moved on to Huddersfield, Wigan and Crystal Palace. Left Selhurst Park in acrimonious fashion after Birmingham targeted him as the replacement for Trevor Francis in 1991. Took Blues into the Premier League but after a heavy FA Cup defeat is struggling to keep his job.

MARTIN POWELL (1971-1983): Stylish and well-respected Scotland centre-half whose authoritative nature appeared to make him a natural for the management game. Lasted four months at Burnley.

SIR BOBBY CHARLTON (1956-1973): Arguably the finest English player of all time proved to be an unmitigated disaster as a manager. Claimed he was not given the resources to make a decent job of it at Preston but was never lured back into management following his departure after a single season.

STEVE COPPELL (1975-1983): After a knee injury cut his playing career short at just 28, Coppell turned his attention to management. Steered Crystal Palace into the FA Cup final and then third place in the old First Division - the Eagles' highest ever - the following season. It was the first of four stints in charge at Selhurst Park in a career which has seen him move to Manchester City (for only six games), Brentford and Brighton. Now at Reading and about to steer the Royals into the top flight for the first time.

PADDY CRERAND (1962-1971): A key figure in United's 1968 European Cup triumph, Crerand lasted five months at Northampton before getting the bullet and, like Charlton, never managed again.

MARK HUGHES (1983-86, 1988-95): Hughes was never tipped as a manager by Ferguson but has taken to the game with ease. Took Wales into the Euro 2004 play-offs. Took over at Blackburn shortly afterwards, steering Rovers away from danger in his first season. Currently in contention for a Champions League spot.

BRIAN KIDD (1967-1974): Another European Cup winner who proved to be a poor manager. Got itchy feet in 1998 after spending seven years as Sir Alex Ferguson's highly-rated assistant. Took command at Blackburn but dismissed six months later.

BRYAN ROBSON (1981-94): United's inspirational leader under Ron Atkinson and Ferguson. There are two schools of thought on his stint at Middlesbrough - he either spent lots and achieved little (relegation and two losing finals) or he laid the platform for the Teessiders to become an established Premiership outfit. Kept West Brom up in extraordinary fashion last year but back in trouble again this season.

GORDON STRACHAN (1984-89): Scotland international who won the FA Cup with United and the title of the pre-Premiership era with Leeds. Sacked after five years at when the Sky Blues lost top-flight status, then enjoyed success at Southampton - reaching the 2003 Cup final - before resigning to spend more time with his family. Now at Celtic, has recovered from a humiliating Champions League exit to Artmedia Bratislava, and, after winning his first trophy on Sunday in the CIS Insurance Cup, is set to clinch the Scottish Premier League.

NOBBY STILES (1960-71): Along with Charlton, one of only two Englishmen to have won the World Cup and European Cup, he replaced his former England and United team-mate at Preston, with limited success. After a brief stint in Vancouver, returned to England to take over as manager of West Brom. Sacked after five months, having gained just three wins.
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Manchester United 2013-2014 Squad List [Squad number - Player Name] * Last update: 16/08/2013 *

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Barclays Premier League squad numbers 2013/14

1. De Gea (GK); 2. Rafael; 3. Evra; 4. Jones; 5. Ferdinand; 6. Evans; 8. Anderson; 10. Rooney; 11. Giggs; 12. Smalling; 13. Lindegaard (GK); 14. Chicharito; 15. Vidic; 16. Carrick; 17. Nani; 18. Young; 19. Welbeck; 20. v. Persie; 21. Henríquez; 22. Fabio; 23. Cleverley; 24. Fletcher; 25. Valencia; 26. Kagawa; 27. Macheda; 28.Büttner; 29. Zaha; 30. Varela; 31. Wootton; 32. Powell; 33. Bébé; 34. Cole; 35. Lingard; 36. Vermijl; 38. M.Keane; 39. Thorpe; 40. Amos (GK); 42. Blackett; 44. Januzaj; 45. Petrucci; 48. W.Keane; 50. Johnstone (GK).


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Reon's Signatures Collections

Here you can find all the signatures created by our official Man Utd Street Talk signatures provider, Reon cool.gif

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Siggy 141-150 ** 27/04/2011 - New Siggy Added (#149-150) **

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Siggy 146 Siggy 147 Siggy 148 Siggy 149 Siggy 150

Siggy 151-160 ** 02/06/2011 - New Siggy Added (#151-154) **

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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Sep 2 2013, 11:08 PM)
aiyo, "improved" 15m for baines..... siyesli??? woody, ur doing it wrong. i stil tarak faham the insistence on getting baines over.  doh.gif  doh.gif
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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Sep 2 2013, 11:16 PM)
fuwah..... Mata -> psg....pastore bye2?? shocking.gif

meanwhile, we're in for Cabaye??!!again?! apa in tahi????
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QUOTE(ayonan @ Sep 2 2013, 11:17 PM)
Woih sino, where is your source of rumors? So active. I want!
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Carry on here, guys smile.gif
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What if until last min DM still did not sign anyone and trolled all of us. Lol
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jilaka.... my sos??? brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif

just like astroll....macam macam ada........

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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Sep 2 2013, 11:19 PM)
second!
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ur third not second


fellaini, baines , herrera!

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What if until last min DM still did not sign anyone and trolled all of us. Lol
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Then we'll expect a resurgence from the team tongue.gif



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so,until now which player oredi kompem joining us?? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(skYnett @ Sep 2 2013, 11:22 PM)
so,until now which player oredi kompem joining us?? hmm.gif
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CR7 + his agent jorge mendez spotted at manc airport few hours ago. drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Sep 2 2013, 11:23 PM)
CR7 + his agent jorge mendez spotted at manc airport few hours ago.  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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Sure bo lol..
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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Sep 2 2013, 11:23 PM)
CR7 + his agent jorge mendez spotted at manc airport few hours ago.  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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This tactic looks familiar eh laugh.gif
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QUOTE(alien2003 @ Sep 2 2013, 11:25 PM)
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This tactic looks familiar eh  laugh.gif
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Isn't that..... icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(alien2003 @ Sep 2 2013, 11:25 PM)
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This tactic looks familiar eh  laugh.gif
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Woih! We sign alleycat!
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post Sep 2 2013, 11:28 PM

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alien2003 post lipoted for trolling. toffees fans will not like it. brows.gif

it's 4:30pm in london now.
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post Sep 2 2013, 11:28 PM

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Any scoop on herrera. Who this guy ?
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Sep 2 2013, 11:21 PM)
Then we'll expect a resurgence from the team tongue.gif

Anyway, bila mau yumcha again?  brows.gif  brows.gif
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Yeah hopefully. But I was hoping for at least 1 midfielder just to give a lil boost.

Anytime but weekends will be better biggrin.gif
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Little snippet I just get texted: United may go in strong again for Baines and are thinking of Cabaye.

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QUOTE(nVidiaFX @ Sep 2 2013, 11:28 PM)
Any scoop on herrera. Who this guy ?
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the ultimate creative midfielder that will dislodge the lejen Carrick from his throne, make christian erikson lap kasut, make ozil + mata carry his bags when he was la liga.
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Won't mind cabaye if herrera deal fail since Cabaye at cheaper asking price,around 20m? Plus now arsenal take ozil already,they might not interest on cabaye. hmm.gif
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^ if ozil injured, they're back to square one. makes no difference.
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those who ask.. nah..

http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Football/...nchester+United

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^ lulz benji. At africa we just feed money under table. No need record maa.
Wood keep on under valuating player even it is the end of transfer windows amaze me.
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the ultimate creative midfielder that will dislodge the lejen Carrick from his throne, make christian erikson lap kasut, make ozil + mata carry his bags when he was la liga.
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cabaye is just like cleverley. same mould, same playing style, just wiser

i'd rather we someone to play DM. someone in the mould of Dembele, parker etc
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Please sign herrera! box-to-box type of midfielder! exactly what we need and mata please
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funny how we're the only club chasing herrera and no one else. moyes scouting team la nih!!!!!

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Herrera + Fellaini!!! Cleverley can rest now.
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Everton FC reject £15M offer from Man United for Leighton Baines

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Everton have rejected a £15million offer for Leighton Baines from Manchester United.

David Moyes returned to his former club on deadline day with an improved offer for the Blues left-back but chairman Bill Kenwright is determined to resist all offers for the Kirkby-born player.

The Premier League champions are expected to secure the capture of Baines' teammate Marouane Fellaini later, with the 26-year-old given time off by the Belgian FA in order to secure a move to Old Trafford, where he will be reunited with former Everton manager Moyes.

United previously tabled joint bids for the pair, at £28million and £38million, which were both rejected by Goodison Park officials while attention has now turned to Fellaini's replacement.


Baines: Noooo Afro.. don't leave me sweat.gif

Looks like we're out for Baines. Don't mind since we're quite alright on the left.
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Wa, we're going to sign pastore as well? brows.gif
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Confius with all the rumors. Tmrw ni see who we sign. Fingers crossed. tongue.gif
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Wa, we're going to sign pastore as well? brows.gif
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where's your sos kicap?  whistling.gif
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Pastore but dont get your hopes up. Arsenal wants him more than united.

mostly confirmed transfers are fellaini and herrera as his transfer clause has been triggered and i dont think anyone else wants him except for united.
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another player we gave been linked with from the start till now is Garay, but suddenly no movement on that side and we got herrera....
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Real still losing 60M after Bale's deal minus sale of Ozil

time to kacau them for Ronaldo...hahahaha
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tomorrow you wake up and find out we signed Bebe's brother Bobo tongue.gif
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So, what is the transfer's dateline in Malaysia time?
sori 4 my ignorant.
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So, what is the transfer's dateline in Malaysia time?
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6am in the morning I guess?
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So, we get less than 5 hours to finalize any deals.
juz get either harrera or fellaini will be good enough 4 me.
If get both, that will be a bonus.
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So, we get less than 5 hours to finalize any deals.
juz get either harrera or fellaini will be good enough 4 me.
If get both, that will be a bonus.
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one thing about herrera is that he doesn't have shooting boots... Very very poor goal scoring record... Just give Shinji a chance ffs... He can score goals, can create goals, can dribble, and a hardworker....
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Wht type player actually is herrera? not a well known player.. seem more like carrick style..
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Wht type player actually is herrera? not a well known player.. seem more like carrick style..
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more like Gerrard type of player
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David Moyes has pledged that Shinji Kagawa and Wilfried Zaha will get their opportunity to impress in the coming weeks.

The Manchester United manager is also hoping to welcome Javier Hernandez back into the fold as the Mexican's fitness will be assessed ahead of the game at Liverpool.

Kagawa was an unused substitute against Chelsea while Zaha did not make the bench on Monday after both made positive contributions to the pre-season campaign.


"I’ve not had a chance to look at other things," explained the boss. "I’ve had to stick to the same group of players and go with it.

"Shinji came back late and that was the biggest problem for him. We had to give him a week off after he came back to play for us in Japan as well.

"Wilf is still getting to know this level so we’re happy with what we’ve got. I hope to use them as we go along. Hernandez has trained in the last few days and could be fit [for Sunday]. He doesn’t feel his hamstring now and is getting there. He’s just lacking game practice."


http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features...ll-feature.aspx


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Wht type player actually is herrera? not a well known player.. seem more like carrick style..
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Box-to-box type of midfielder. Like Yaya toure. But of course, his goalscoring record is much poorer.
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Fellaini handed in transfer request
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Fellaini handed in transfer request
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transfer crazy in less than 2 hours eh? khedira bid rejected and fellaini handed transfer request
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any problem with Herrera paperwork?
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1 hour to go still nothing

Fellaini might be happening
Herrera got some problem with permit or such

Fuh!!
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Herrera deal is off

ok fk...
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hijack Ozil deal... xD
Everything not going well right now
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this is fkin extraordinary...really do not get this

imposters? oh god
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this is fkin extraordinary...really do not get this

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What happens really, I didnt hear the details why the deal went off
The representatives from Utd are imposters is that what they are saying...
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really dumb...just frustrating...borderline embarrassing
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Bilbao newspaper El Correo believes Ander Herrera will soon join United because of his willingness to take a pay-cut. It is reported he will earn around €4million per annum from a five-year contract at Old Trafford. However, there is no mention of the alleged hitch over the payment of the €36million clause.

Really Woodward? nowonder nobody wants to come..
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shambles...ridiculous...get fellaini deal sorted out pls

my god im pissed
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Pissed that we didnt get ozil as well... Not good enough for united???
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Pissed that we didnt get ozil as well... Not good enough for united???
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Pissed that we didnt get ozil as well... Not good enough for united???
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Utd didnt go for him even though he is available... we need tough dm like Fellaini.
Herrera deal is off and Khedira bid rejected...
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Looks like our status as Champion of EPL 12/13 mean nothing. Really painful to see many team below us secure a big names, while us, even to sign harrera who is not even Spanish International, failed to do so.

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We have kagawa. Not the main priority. Fellani / Herrera more important
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get a proper director of football ffs...god...

not willing to meet the evaluation? fk off really..whats the point of getting those money from winning the pl and qualifying for cl...christ
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Ozil. What a signing. Arsenal jz got a hell lot stronger.
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Ozil. What a signing. Arsenal jz got a hell lot stronger.
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Everton almost signed J. McCarthy...
hopefully Fellaini going to Utd
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Im scared bro... moyes wanna play young and giggs and cleverley... I heartache see januzaj zaha and kagawa not picked..
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Agree. But, as for Cleverly, as for now, he is the most capable CM we have to partner Carrick at CM. Januzaj and Kagawa, IMO, is not suitable to play in CM. they are more to CAM and Winger. So, DM has no choice but to play him.
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Enough time to complete fellaini deal?
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somehow streaming is off
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Agree. But, as for Cleverly, as for now, he is the most capable CM we have to partner Carrick at CM. Januzaj and Kagawa, IMO, is not suitable to play in CM. they are more to CAM and Winger. So, DM has no choice but to play him.
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januzaj can actually play CM.. if you see some of his youth videos... he was given free role to roam anywhere in the midfield... that what makes him so good.. I demand moyes to give him chance naaaaao!!
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Imma gonna flip table nao!!!! but sadly my table is stuck on floor
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Some news are being delays waiting for confirmation.
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I think Fellaini deal is through
Everton got Barry and McCarthy for replacement...
Fuh!!
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how ever optimistic way we see it, this is a disgraceful way of doing transfer. sad.gif

oh well, we will have to stick with what we have got. youth powa!
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Maybe moyes thinks he already signed 22 players better than his previous team.
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Thiago, fabregas, eriksen, ronaldo, bale, ozil, herrera.... who else?? fellaini next?
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how ever optimistic way we see it, this is a disgraceful way of doing transfer. sad.gif

oh well, we will have to stick with what we have got. youth powa!
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Moyes will be the one taking much of the blame...but honestly what has ed woodward done...slept thru whole summer until the last day of the transfer window just in time to bring thru fellaini

good job ed, nice work there
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Heard that but not confirmed right by both clubs right...
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ssn and twitter...soon to be on official website
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Heard that but not confirmed right by both clubs right...
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Just wait for united announcement.

About 27.5mil
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Looks like it't done deal. Still waiting for official confirmation.
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So afro deal or no deal?
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I know it's been mentioned a billion times, but he had a release clause of 23 million up until last month. How the people in charge of our transfer business can remain in a job after this farce I've no idea.

Arsenal - Ozil
United - Fellaini

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i'm sad on herrera. I think he fits better than afro. sad.gif
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I saw twitter that coentrao is coming...

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Coentrao on season loan with us?
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Coentrao on season loan with us?
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Fellaini better than nothing. At least can bully the big boys
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So afro deal or no deal?
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done deal, 27.5 mil...
Fuh!
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Maybe we are playing him as a left winger...
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Done deal for coentrao.bbc
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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Sep 3 2013, 06:17 AM)
i'm sad on herrera. I think he fits better than afro. sad.gif
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Wait, they skimped on the Herrera deal, and thenpaid 4 million more than Fellaini's buyout clause?

Good grief.. Just to get moyes buddy
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finally a left footed winger apart from giggs

can play left back too and some other positions...versatile
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QUOTE(legendofhafiz @ Sep 3 2013, 06:21 AM)
Done deal for coentrao.bbc
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Suddenly Utd got Coentrao on loan?
No news about it and suddenly... sweat.gif
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Herrera is the most bizzare transfer story i ever heard....imposters? lol what a troll

at least we got Fellaini...better than nothing
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damn. Since when Coentrao is in our radar?
However, at least we have our own left footed winger.
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QUOTE(Fixz @ Sep 3 2013, 06:23 AM)
Suddenly Utd got Coentrao on loan?
No news about it and suddenly...  sweat.gif
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Wow. This IS the surprise of the transfer window. We lost Herrera, but get Coentrao? On loan? Every news portal had NO idea where that came from blink.gif
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Sep 3 2013, 06:23 AM)
Mu seem bit messy on doing business.
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QUOTE(hongchai888 @ Sep 3 2013, 06:21 AM)
Wait, they skimped on the Herrera deal, and thenpaid 4 million more than Fellaini's buyout clause?

Good grief.. Just to get moyes buddy
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yeah its so stupid...dumbfounded a club like united have personnel fail big like that

just few million more to get a good midfielder, still unwilling to play doh.gif
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QUOTE(legendofhafiz @ Sep 3 2013, 06:26 AM)
Yes.this is what you get when sudden appointment from marketing guy who has been with United since 06 to handle transfer.kinda sad
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#Woodwardout is proper tagline compare to #Moyesout. We could get Fallaini earlier and cheaper. Why leave it late? vmad.gif
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QUOTE(kurtkantoi @ Sep 3 2013, 06:28 AM)
#Woodwardout is proper tagline compare to #Moyesout. We could get Fallaini earlier and cheaper. Why leave it late?  vmad.gif
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Ed woodward only work one day whole transfer summer and that was 2nd september
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Mu seem bit messy on doing business.
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how i wish we can get ozil, can play center and right midfield
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PROBABLY A DONE DEAL
Fabio Coentrao from Real Madrid to Man United (loan)
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But now marca claimed there is no deal for coentrao.oh well
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DONE DEAL: Fábio Coentrão's proposed loan deal to Manchester United has been confirmed. (Source: BBC)
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excellent buy for arsenal. feel abit sorry for ozil who went from guaranteed first teamer to benchwarmer in a month. i feel we are getting lost in the transfer market because we keep offering bids that are way below the opposing team's valuation of the player. if you want the player just give the money. obviously it'd be ridiculous to give insane amounts of money but for 30(36?)m Herrera seems a good buy.
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QUOTE(shgx700 @ Sep 3 2013, 06:37 AM)
soccernet

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PROBABLY A DONE DEAL
Fabio Coentrao from Real Madrid to Man United (loan)
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ah damn, probably dint happen
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coentrao deal on/off, duno la

one thg for sure ed just made our club a laughing stock
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BBC: "Contradictory reports within Spain on theFabio Coentrao situation. Some media claiming the United loan bid came through, others saying it was too late. Similarly with Madrid's attempts to sign Siqueira from Granada, who would be Coentrao's replacement.

"There's a suspicion that Madrid have learned their attempts to get Siqueira didn't make it, in which case they would not want Coentrao to leave and therefore will attempt to argue the United bid was too late.

"Complications complications...if you must leave it until the last three minutes when you've had three months, this is what can happen."
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I can't recall us having to loan other people's players for a while =/ normally its us loaning others. Or that i was still young and ignorant about these news tongue.gif

So now, coentrao, fellaini? Herrera's news saying 3 people showed up but were imposters of united. What the heck is this??
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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Sep 3 2013, 06:41 AM)
I can't recall us having to loan other people's players for a while =/ normally its us loaning others. Or that i was still young and ignorant about these news tongue.gif

So now, coentrao, fellaini? Herrera's news saying 3 people showed up but were imposters of united. What the heck is this??
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tutup malu bcos fail so cover by saying imposter whistling.gif
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Sep 3 2013, 06:31 AM)
You bet. This is the weirdest one I have ever seen in my life since I began supporting United in 1995.
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Wierd? No.
But it seem to be no planning at all.
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I can't recall us having to loan other people's players for a while =/ normally its us loaning others. Or that i was still young and ignorant about these news tongue.gif

So now, coentrao, fellaini? Herrera's news saying 3 people showed up but were imposters of united. What the heck is this??
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tevez was the last known loaned player...
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coentrao deal on/off, duno la

one thg for sure ed just made our club a laughing stock
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I've gone from not being fond of him to outright hating him.

Total clown.

Shambolic. All you can say..

Never thought we'd be one of these clubs.
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tutup malu bcos fail so cover by saying imposter  whistling.gif
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Lol! kantoi...
SSN said Coentrao done deal... but still no news for confirmation from Utd on both Fellaini and Coentrao
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Seriously I dont understand why we are chasing Coentrao. We got Evra, Buttner & Fabio on the same position.
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Seriously I dont understand why we are chasing Coentrao. We got Evra, Buttner & Fabio on the same position.
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He can also play as left wing. We are very in need of left footed winger in our squad.

BTW, IMO, keeping Rooney is the biggest success fir us during this summer transfer window.
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Seriously I dont understand why we are chasing Coentrao. We got Evra, Buttner & Fabio on the same position.
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Coentrao can play in Midfield and Winger
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QUOTE(kurtkantoi @ Sep 3 2013, 06:49 AM)
Seriously I dont understand why we are chasing Coentrao. We got Evra, Buttner & Fabio on the same position.
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Well, Buttner is on loan, and Fabio is still "raw" compared to Rafeal. Besides, Coentrao can play as a left winger or even midfielder.... A utility man, to put it correctly.
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Seriously I dont understand why we are chasing Coentrao. We got Evra, Buttner & Fabio on the same position.
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he's a winger who got deployed at lb during his time at benfica, played at cm as well
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QUOTE(oli-78 @ Sep 3 2013, 06:53 AM)
He can also play as left wing. We are very in need of left footed winger in our squad.

BTW, IMO, keeping Rooney is the biggest success fir us during this summer transfer window.
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agree. rclxms.gif but then he go collide with jones, and then goes injuring himself because of guilt of injuring roo. aduhai dua orang ini tongue.gif
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but still as a loan player.haiz..wheres sino?done fapping?
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Coentrao can play in Midfield and Winger
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COENTRAOE OFF!
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COENTRAOE OFF!
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Juz heard about that. Anti Climax betoll!!
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QUOTE(oli-78 @ Sep 3 2013, 06:53 AM)
He can also play as left wing. We are very in need of left footed winger in our squad.

BTW, IMO, keeping Rooney is the biggest success fir us during this summer transfer window.
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Agree. Keeping Rooney is a success for DM.

QUOTE(oli-78 @ Sep 3 2013, 06:59 AM)
Juz heard about that. Anti Climax betoll!!
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With the resource we have, do we still chasing a player on a loan deal? doh.gif
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#woodwardout
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fellaini confirmed
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One whole bloody summer... And we only got ONE player, when we can get at least 3? Seriously....
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Seriously I dont understand why we are chasing Coentrao. We got Evra, Buttner & Fabio on the same position.
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Because he is at least twice as good as Buttner and Fabio?
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Err...no. We got him. La Liga officials just confirmed it. Welcome, Coentrao (for one season) biggrin.gif
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and that one player could have been 4 million pound cheaper if we get him early...that 4 million pound could have meet herrera's clause

first signing for moyes at last, but certainly not someone in the club can truly be proud of after missing out on his clause

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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Sep 3 2013, 07:11 AM)
and that one player could have been 4 million pound cheaper if we get him early...that 4 million pound could have meet herrera's clause

first signing for moyes at last, but certainly not something someone in the club can truly be proud of after missing out on his clause
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27.5m is in uero...if convert into pound would be only 22.5m i think...so slightly cheaper than his release clause lol
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One whole bloody summer... And we only got ONE player, when we can get at least 3? Seriously....
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bleh, kayu was like kayu.

seriously, Moyes is awesome, and i am still standing by man utd ALWAYS. but, wood is too much. too disgraceful how we're doing. people think we are a JOKE. NO ONE wants to come.

I reiterate: NO ONE WANTS TO COME MAN UTD. cry.gif they opt for jose, Real, barca, atl mad, big spenders, but not us. sad.gif and I guess it is because of some disgraceful transfer works over the past months. put in stupid bids, then just pull out, then go dipping in again with increased bid of 1m.

Kayu U think you are playing FM ah? even in FM we don't do this.

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Because he is at least twice as good as Buttner and Fabio?
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buttner on loan? fabio still growing, not as fast as mr awesome rafael.
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QUOTE(Seoliem @ Sep 3 2013, 07:12 AM)
27.5m is in uero...if convert into pound would be only 22.5m i think...so slightly cheaper than his release clause lol
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no ler...its 27.5 million pounds
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27.5m is in uero...if convert into pound would be only 22.5m i think...so slightly cheaper than his release clause lol
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it is 27.5m pound
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no ler...its 27.5 million pounds
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i seriously want ozil...too bad though

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i seriously want ozil...
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27.5m is in uero...if convert into pound would be only 22.5m i think...so slightly cheaper than his release clause lol
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No, it's £27.5m. So we paid £4m over.
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no ler...its 27.5 million pounds
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then i think this is the worst deal Man Utd ever done....no way he worth that money

I think Everton secure better signing than us...Barry, McCarthy and Lukaku
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ESPNFC and skysport tak ade coentrao. so, no, no confirmations. and I'm not keeping my hopes up. For relentlessly enquiring about our transfer each morning for the past few months, i am truly disappointed.

I hate hashtags, but #kayuout. seriously.
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buttner on loan? fabio still growing, not as fast as mr awesome rafael.
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No matter what Coentrao is twice the player they are.
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then i think this is the worst deal Man Utd ever done....no way he worth that money

I think Everton secure better signing than us...Barry, McCarthy and Lukaku
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almost same price with berba

QUOTE(onelove89 @ Sep 3 2013, 07:17 AM)
ESPNFC and skysport tak ade coentrao. so, no, no confirmations. and I'm not keeping my hopes up. For relentlessly enquiring about our transfer each morning for the past few months, i am truly disappointed.

I hate hashtags, but #kayuout. seriously.
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27.5 million gotta be kidding me...hope he turns out a good buy
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almost same price with berba
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ok after searching in twitter, seems so. ESPN was saying it was off. but we'll wait for more widespread reports rather than getting excited.

he is a good loan. he is very solid imo.

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27.5  million gotta be kidding me...hope he turns out a good buy
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hope he adds oomph to the squad. and not become the next baby baby oooooooooh!
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We've problem

Even 8 years without single trophy team is bidding aggressively 40-50m in the market now and concluded an awesome deal.

We, United, one of the biggest club in the world, still joy bidding 20-30m. We're now in 2013, not 2003.

And we sign a player that no one compete with on the transfer deadline day for extra 4m ? Because he is valued at below 30m? You must be kidding.

I am even more depressed with the increased of the fuel price now
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We've problem

Even 8 years without single trophy team is bidding aggressively 40-50m in the market now and concluded an awesome deal.

We, United, one of the biggest club in the world, still joy bidding 20-30m. We're now in 2013, not 2003.

And we sign a player that no one compete with on the transfer deadline day for extra 4m ? Because he is valued at below 30m? You must be kidding.

I am even more depressed with the increased of the fuel price now
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Firstly for Ozil, he plays in the hole where Rooney and Kagawa are playing. Why would you want to pay over 40m for Ozil to compete with 2 of our top 3-5 players? Yes he's a great player but unfortunately he doesn't fill a need. This isn't FM where you buy him and just retrain him to play CM.

As for Fellaini, we didn't pay that extra 4m for no reason. We paid it because Ed Woodward/David Moyes messed up and didn't activate his release clause a month ago. It's not like the release clause is active now and they just chose to pay 4m more because they were feeling generous.
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QUOTE(hongchai888 @ Sep 3 2013, 07:31 AM)
We've problem

Even 8 years without single trophy team is bidding aggressively 40-50m in the market now and concluded an awesome deal.

We, United, one of the biggest club in the world, still joy bidding 20-30m. We're now in 2013, not 2003.

And we sign a player that no one compete with on the transfer deadline day for extra 4m ? Because he is valued at below 30m? You must be kidding.

I am even more depressed with the increased of the fuel price now
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exactly. I thought he was given 'all the money' to make a 'world class signing'?

I think kayu doesn't know how big this club is. players linked to us are added an extra 10m on their heads and we are reluctant to pay. reluctant to pay = no talents = midfield remains like crap.

not moyes fault. miss gills sad.gif ask SAF back to do the transfers only tongue.gif
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Welcome to MU Fellaini, i hope you are the central midfield that we need.
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A bit frustrated. Im wondering can we do well in the Champions League with this crop of players? Im stressing on the CL coz i want United to wear the elite badge/patch (winners of 4 times & above) so much tongue.gif
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my personal view, Ed is re-writing the history of this club.. ive never seen we so kelam kabut in transfer market before.. the most frus moment on transfer i can remember is Ronaldinho. but even then, this transfer window is far more worst than what we have xperienced before..

and on top of that.. at the begining i really hopeful on DM.. but the hope -ve bcoz of his comment after pool game.. the performance is not acceptable.. When Liv beat Eve, u can talk like this, but Liv beats United, itz serious matter!
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A bit frustrated. Im wondering can we do well in the Champions League with this crop of players? Im stressing on the CL coz i want United to wear the elite badge/patch (winners of 4 times & above) so much tongue.gif
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Erm. not to be pessimistic but Quarter Finals would be an achievement to us this season.
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Man United and Madrid have both submitted the papers for the Coentrao loan move. Should be confirmed in about 15 minutes [BBC Radio 5 Live]
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Regarding about Herra, can't we just loan the guy and later on January window we buy him ??
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*smh* overpaid for Fellaini when we could have gotten him a month ago for cheaper and worked with him sooner.

Another offer for Baines that we knew would be rejected. The money overpaid for Fellaini could have been included in that Baines offer at the early part of the transfer window!!!!

Herrera deal failed because of a snafu with Spanish tax laws?

*facepalm* Did Woodward learn NOTHING from his time as #2 under David Gill?!?!
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Welcome both Fellaini and Coentrao (I will get the spelling right soon tongue.gif ). Hope the arrivals will spark some players back to life. Ozil is not in consideration IMHO

hopefully because they are really pinning their hope and have great faith in Janujaz (they almost play similarly from the looks of things) Don't want to repeat the

Pogba episode. Secondly, Ozil is not really a CM, more like those floating AM/No. 10 in which we already have two. Thirdly, the price of 40 million.

Just hope DM will learn his lessons fast, plus just hope the January window will bring us something special. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(kokuryo @ Sep 3 2013, 07:51 AM)
my personal view, Ed is re-writing the history of this club.. ive never seen we so kelam kabut in transfer market before.. the most frus moment on transfer i can remember is Ronaldinho. but even then, this transfer window is far more worst than what we have xperienced before..

and on top of that.. at the begining i really hopeful on DM.. but the hope -ve bcoz of his comment after pool game.. the performance is not acceptable.. When Liv beat Eve, u can talk like this, but Liv beats United, itz serious matter!
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i truly agree. I was soooo angry. We were playing so badly. apart that we were playing well in the last 15mins. but he said 'we're doing well, best I've seen so far" I was like blink.gif

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Man United and Madrid have both submitted the papers for the Coentrao loan move. Should be confirmed in about 15 minutes [BBC Radio 5 Live]
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still searching high and low for the news. hope it wont turn out to be another herrera. cry.gif
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...eal-Madrid.html

Hope this news can bring some cheer to all of us. Im just hoping that everyone will give the afroman chance to prove his worth. Just my 2 cents.
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on a positive note, we might see a busier january transfer for man utd, since we only managed to get 1 player. Other clubs already splashing like mad they might not be buying, so maybe easier to negotiate with clubs/players hmm.gif
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Erm. not to be pessimistic but Quarter Finals would be an achievement to us this season.
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We must go for Herrera in January. Just pay the damn buy-out clause la KAYU!!!
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afroman to Man Utd !!
Finally i can fap in peace..
FAP... FAP... FAP... FAP......

edit: btw, mufc website not update the transfer yet.

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afroman to Man Utd !!
Finally i can fap in peace..
FAP... FAP... FAP... FAP......

edit: btw, mufc website not update the transfer yet.
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that means yet to be confirmed lor
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that means yet to be confirmed lor
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skysports and espn all confirm so it is done. now waiting coentrao.

Jan should be busy. as far as i know, they DID activate herrera's clause. just some dodgy stuff happened. and it fell apart at last minute.

Do business last minute la!
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We must go for Herrera in January. Just pay the damn buy-out clause la KAYU!!!
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QUOTE(kokuryo @ Sep 3 2013, 07:51 AM)
my personal view, Ed is re-writing the history of this club.. ive never seen we so kelam kabut in transfer market before.. the most frus moment on transfer i can remember is Ronaldinho. but even then, this transfer window is far more worst than what we have xperienced before..

and on top of that.. at the begining i really hopeful on DM.. but the hope -ve bcoz of his comment after pool game.. the performance is not acceptable.. When Liv beat Eve, u can talk like this, but Liv beats United, itz serious matter!
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At least nobody screwed up the deals as ronaldinho had a change of heart when barca came in with a late bid. All my life following football, I have never seen a club screwing so many transfer deals in a single season as we did, overpay, chasing after player who have no interest in joining us and rushing through so many deals on deadline day, this is so unlike the old manchester united
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QUOTE(sunblaze @ Sep 3 2013, 08:01 AM)
*smh* overpaid for Fellaini when we could have gotten him a month ago for cheaper and worked with him sooner.

Another offer for Baines that we knew would be rejected. The money overpaid for Fellaini could have been included in that Baines offer at the early part of the transfer window!!!!

Herrera deal failed because of a snafu with Spanish tax laws?

*facepalm* Did Woodward learn NOTHING from his time as #2 under David Gill?!?!
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David Gill didn't have enough time to do the proper knowledge transfer tongue.gif and the work instruction didn't teach him that tongue.gif

morale of the story: don't do business last minute whistling.gif

with the addition of Fellani, hope there will be a rise of Kagawa! Play Kagawa or let him go, can't stand him not being use in the team. doh.gif

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On Redcafe they think Coentrao deal has collapsed. Seems like Sky has backtracked too, and Soccernet initially just quoting SSN, and bunch other journo's twitter account as their source. So basically, there's nothing official yet.
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Fellaini at £27.5 million? Really? Should have bought him before 31 July! Adoi, mmg Kayu betul.
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why do we pay more for Fellaini? we look like bunch of noobz in handling this transfer window
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Afroman over at Bridgewater hospital - http://sulia.com/channel/soccer/f/833b5b2d...0-ebeef4ae901e/
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i'm not so hopeful of coentrao cos nothing on any of the big networks. sad.gif sigh

So, with afro, how can we place him? sidebyside with carrick? and kagawa being up front with RVP interchangable with roo?
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Afro should play alongside Carrick, so no space for Cleverly.
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Dem.. Suddenly I got jelly and worried with Arsenal signing Ozil mata ikan.

Aritu gile confident cakap wengah xkan sign anyone
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Sadly, this report says that United didn't complete the paperwork in time.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/tra...oentrao-2246665
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Depends. If DM wants, he can play both.

Carrick and Fellaini shielding the backline, Cleverley can be mobile without exposing us.

Equally, maybe DM will feel more confident to play Kagawa now!
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with Fellani in the team, Carrick can at least have some rest time, he is the only player who really need to be rest given his played almost every game last season when he is fit/available

Fellani - Carrick combo then finally Moyes dare to play Kagawa up there with Van Persie? Pls do so Moyes.....
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Better still, play Kagawa in the hole while Rooney and RVP do their thing in front! brows.gif
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QUOTE(kokuryo @ Sep 3 2013, 07:51 AM)
my personal view, Ed is re-writing the history of this club.. ive never seen we so kelam kabut in transfer market before.. the most frus moment on transfer i can remember is Ronaldinho. but even then, this transfer window is far more worst than what we have xperienced before..
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If we had gotten Ronaldinho then we might not have gone in for Ronaldo. He was being tracked by many other clubs that time as well.
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Coming goals

* giggs takes the corner, felaini heads the ball and van persie SHOOTS!! What a goallllll

*carrick/rooney croses the ball high up, felaini wins the arial challenge, heads the ball to chicarito who beats the offside trap.. Aaaaaaaaand what a goal from javier chicarito hernandezzzzzz.. Utd 3-0 up!


*hazards dribbles the ball past carrick.. goal is clear.. its only him and de gea now.. can he shoot......WHAM!!! What a tackle from fellaini.. Hazard drops and waives his hand in agony..fellaini was yellow carded.. There is a grin smirk on fellaini's face.. Thats what you do when you are 2-1 up and theres 4minutes left on the clock.. Mourinho runs over the technical box and applauds sacarsticly on the ref's decision
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Afro guy so good ar? What wonders he did in Everton? I hope DM knowa what he is doing & not just for the sake of desperate. Just wait for the official announcement from ManUtd.com
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If we had gotten Ronaldinho then we might not have gone in for Ronaldo. He was being tracked by many other clubs that time as well.
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I stayed silent all through the transfer window and I can't help but feel the sweeping changes in the backroom contributed to our slow start and the chaotic farce in our signing efforts.
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QUOTE(sunblaze @ Sep 3 2013, 08:01 AM)
*smh* overpaid for Fellaini when we could have gotten him a month ago for cheaper and worked with him sooner.

Another offer for Baines that we knew would be rejected. The money overpaid for Fellaini could have been included in that Baines offer at the early part of the transfer window!!!!

Herrera deal failed because of a snafu with Spanish tax laws?

*facepalm* Did Woodward learn NOTHING from his time as #2 under David Gill?!?!
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Who says he learn nothing? Remember Bebe? :-P
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Bebe? What does Bebe have to do with this? O_o
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Coming goals

* giggs takes the corner, felaini heads the ball and van persie SHOOTS!! What a goallllll

*carrick/rooney croses the ball high up, felaini wins the arial challenge, heads the ball to chicarito who beats the offside trap.. Aaaaaaaaand what a goal from javier chicarito hernandezzzzzz.. Utd 3-0 up!
*hazards dribbles the ball past carrick.. goal is clear.. its only him and de gea now.. can he shoot......WHAM!!! What a tackle from fellaini.. Hazard drops and waives his hand in agony..fellaini was yellow carded.. There is a grin smirk on fellaini's face.. Thats what you do when you are 2-1 up and theres 4minutes left on the clock.. Mourinho runs over the technical box and applauds sacarsticly on the ref's decision
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QUOTE(ReAcTiVo @ Sep 3 2013, 09:10 AM)
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Yes fap fap indeed. At least now IMHO players like Cleverley Kagawa Rooney Nani Janujaz Zaha can play to their max offensively without worry to cover the defense too much. Cleverley is good just not good yet for starting 11. And not in CM. For me he is a willing runner just put him on the side and let him roam around in the final third.

Fellaini might not be special compared to others but perhaps he is what United exactly need now to make the squad complete again. We have enough talents offensive wise. Perhaps we can mould Fellaini to be the more defensive force.
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Bebe? What does Bebe have to do with this? O_o
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He has got to do with everything. :-P

Just saying that David Gill was not without mistakes as well. Bebe is the evidence. I am not backing Ed yet. Just hopefully he already learnt his lessons and be much better next time.
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I'm reserving my judgment on Fellaini until I see how he performs within the next few weeks.

Just look at Vidic, Evra, etc..nobody knew who they were before they came. Now, they're one of our bests
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with Fellani in the team, Carrick can at least have some rest time, he is the only player who really need to be rest given his played almost every game last season when he is fit/available

Fellani - Carrick combo then finally Moyes dare to play Kagawa up there with Van Persie? Pls do so Moyes.....
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Yup. Now we can go on without worrying about Carrick getting injured. Fellaini will play the DM role when needed. His ability on the ball is underrated IMO.

As for Kagawa in the AM role..doubt it aside from some games. Rooney is still here and it looks like when fit, him and RooneyVP will play upfront in most games.

As for the midfield dynamo..that's really embarrassing missing out on Herrera and a host others. What the fish Woodward? You had one job. And seeing how we fail on every target except Fellaini, you have to wonder. Incompetent. Cesc saga ended weeks ago, and we move at the very last min to secure Herrera who has a release clause and we know from how Bayern got Martinez the year before that its very complicated. Yet here we are, putting a bid 6m off his release clause. Just pay up. Then we won't have to worry for two years in terms of getting more players in. I'm not one to easily condemn the club regarding transfer dealings in the past, but this transfer window is a farce for us. Bring back David Gill!

#WOODWARDOUT

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All we have to show after these merry go round is Fellaini who we paid more than the release clause in July. Omg.
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Afro guy so good ar? What wonders he did in Everton? I hope DM knowa what he is doing & not just for the sake of desperate. Just wait for the official announcement from ManUtd.com
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U remember the season we lost title to City? When we face Everton at home, we lead all the time, but this afro man causing us to draw
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He has got to do with everything. :-P

Just saying that David Gill was not without mistakes as well. Bebe is the evidence. I am not backing Ed yet. Just hopefully he already learnt his lessons and be much better next time.
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From what I know, manager identifies the targets, CEO handles the price negotiations and the process of signing the target.

Bebe was a last minute spur of the moment choice from SAF (possibly a late recommendation by Queiroz, but unconfirmed), so I wouldn't blame Gill for him. Blame the CEO if we fail to land a target for ridiculous reasons (Herrera) or overpay for ridiculous reasons (Fellaini).

Under Gill, the only time I remember us wanting a target but failing was when the selling club wanted a high fee and the player high wages, ala Sneijder

Or when the player wanted to move to another club for personal or emotional reasons, ala Ozil to Madrid, Neuer, Lewandowski to Bayern.

But on the flip side, under Gill we managed to get some difficult deals too. Carrick, Berbatov from Spurs (Levy sleep.gif). Hargreaves from Bayern (when they were deadset against selling him). RVP from Arsenal.

No CEO gets it 100% right, but if we got some good deals then the bad ones are easier to overlook.
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What surprises me is RM's willingness to let Fabio Coentrao leave the club, be it on loan or permanently. Coentrao is one of the best LB in Europe, in fact, RM have both Marcelo and Coentrao to deploy, making their LB one of the strongest in the world.

Basically now the jury is not confirmed, could go either way, will he join or will he not. Most likely off.

Anyway, welcome Afroman! A much needed 'tough cookie' in our midfield. Set pieces should be interesting, take advantage of them. Come on Moyes, we believe in you.

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If we really were in for Coentrao, then hopefully a January deal can be done, and hopefully Herrera can be signed then.

*fingers crossed*
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It is very important to buy Fellaini,
His ability to replace and filll the roy keane boot, will help MU to boss the midfield you will see.
http://www.whoscored.com/Players/22738/

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Coentrao will most likely be cup-tied for the CL by then but Herrara won't. Still, I can't see Bilbao accepting anything less than the release clause. They are not desperate to sell which is the same as Fellaini so United will have to pay over the odds again.
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Still, very bush league. Needs to buck up next transfer window.
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Will wait for the confirmation of Coentrao. Be it on or off. If on perhaps they could include an option to buy later. :-P

He could be the major coup. One of the best LB. Not bad being a left winger too.
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QUOTE(IronLionZion @ Sep 3 2013, 09:55 AM)
Coentrao will most likely be cup-tied for the CL by then but Herrara won't. Still, I can't see Bilbao accepting anything less than the release clause. They are not desperate to sell which is the same as Fellaini so United will have to pay over the odds again.
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Coentrao will most likely be cup-tied for the CL by then but Herrara won't. Still, I can't see Bilbao accepting anything less than the release clause. They are not desperate to sell which is the same as Fellaini so United will have to pay over the odds again.
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Agreed with Moyes on Herrera's price being overvalued. 30mil is alot for a player who is still at a young age and has yet to peak properly. Hopefully they'll concentrate on other targets during the next window.
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Sep 3 2013, 09:48 AM)
What surprises me is RM's willingness to let Fabio Coentrao leave the club, be it on loan or permanently. Coentrao is one of the best LB in Europe, in fact, RM have both Marcelo and Coentrao to deploy, making their LB one of the strongest in the world.

Basically now the jury is not confirmed, could go either way, will he join or will he not. Most likely off.

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Don't be too surprised, Madrid are insane and have been for years.

When they want a player, they will pay insane fees. But if the player is unwanted (typically due to club politics), they dump the player just as fast and sometimes for cheap. Van der Vaart was one such example. Signed by Calderon, dumped by Perez for a surprisingly low price.

If Woodward is smart, he should foster a good relationship with Madrid and try to get first dibs on any of their unwanted players.

Players like Coentrao, Modric, Khedira would all be solid additions.. especially if the price is nice!
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Even though afroman tend to be aggressive and asking for cards.he will do fine for adding steel in our midfield.besides, if we are desperate in cover central defender (god forbids), I am more confident on afroman than carrick.competition for clev will be good.he needs a challenge because ando can only compete in pizza eating contest or who get first treatment.

Good call for powell getting exposure slowly in championship.I expect another season loan in the next season before joining united back.

This transfer season look depress enough because we hardly define a proper target and managed to get player swiftly.losing to liverpool on sunday doesn't help either
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Finally a CM, though not many's first choice but wish him all the best and me hope that with him we are able to release others going offensive

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That photography session seem so rushed...
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registration for CL only closes after transfer window unless RM submits earlier but that should not be the case since they also need to register bale smile.gif
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I mean if we don't get him now and try for him again in January then he would have probably played in the CL already.

Anyway, it's a shame that United missed out on Herrera now as he would have needed time to adapt so if even if they get him in January, I doubt he would have much of an impact.
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Sep 3 2013, 10:06 AM)
Agreed with Moyes on Herrera's price being overvalued. 30mil is alot for a player who is still at a young age and has yet to peak properly. Hopefully they'll concentrate on other targets during the next window.
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Guess it depends on how good he actually is/turns out to be (which I know nothing about). Other clubs were reluctant or slow to pay 12million for Ronaldo, but it turned out to be a super bargain. Similarly, there are cases where the player didn't pan out as well as hoped for due to injury or other issues (Anderson....)

Other targets might offer better value, IF we identify them AND sign them without overpaying. Of course, there is always the question of whether the club will sell, and if the player will sign.

Aulas (Lyon), Levy both have a reputation of being hard negotiators, and AC Milan seem pretty skilled too... Woodward better start getting into the swing of things... don't end up being painted with a "sucker" tag!
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coentrao still not confirmed sad.gif wish he can come.

well, ok fine, Afroman isn't all as bad as we think. I can't recall last year as I didn't take much notice of him, but the year before was his reign. Everyone was marking him. Hope his form is up.

speaking of which, Valencia was on top shape (IMHO) when he was playing against liverpool smile.gif I is happy. Play him more please! He was so scary 2 seasons ago. hope he will be this season.
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apparently, Herrera's case, I think there was some sabo by these 3 'imposters', and news aren't clear yet on what happened. sad.gif
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Think positive

Rooney stay - hope he fully commit to us, don't always 'injured himself' , like a new signing !

Nani stay - give him more time ahead of Young, improve his consistency, like a new signing !
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we have given Nani enough time... and I don't see him improving anytime soon...


QUOTE(hongchai888 @ Sep 3 2013, 10:42 AM)
Think positive

Rooney stay - hope he fully commit to us, don't always 'injured himself' , like a new signing !

Nani stay - give him more time ahead of Young, improve his consistency, like a new signing !
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I think thats what make United and SAF different from others. To certain extent Wenger as well. They are loyal to players and always give the players more chances to prove themselves. Wenger with the Ramsey situation. SAF with Forlan. Nani on his day is very dangerous for any opponent. Imagine if he plays for other team we might be jelly I am sure. :-P

Hope Coentrao move goes through and Nani will have good buddy to play with now in the left flank.
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Coentrao is officially off...haizz

i hope we can sign him by January...i rate him better than Baines or any LW Man Utd currently have
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QUOTE(hongchai888 @ Sep 3 2013, 10:42 AM)
Think positive

Rooney stay - hope he fully commit to us, don't always 'injured himself' , like a new signing !

Nani stay - give him more time ahead of Young, improve his consistency, like a new signing !
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He needs to be consistent, i mean nani. We got good squad, cleverly + young needs to be on loan for more time?

RVP Roo

Nani Ogawa valencia/zaha

carrick/afro

Coentrao/evra vidic smalling rafael



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sorry, was trying hard to put in ogawa.
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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Sep 3 2013, 10:44 AM)
we have given Nani enough time... and I don't see him improving anytime soon...
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He has already showed that he is good enough. He just needs to replicate the form from 2 or 3 seasons ago where he was arguably United's best player and miles better than Young or Valencia.

He has been deployed on the left many times (mostly he just cuts in and tries to take potshots at goal) but it seems like he performs best when he is on the right wing as his crossing can be quite good at times so Valencia might have to be shifted to the left wing or to RB. If Coentrao does arrive then he can play on the left or if Moyes is confident in Januzaj then give him a chance.

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United's Herrera Failure Emblematic of Embarrassing Transfer Window

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1759394...transfer-window

OMG. Got to feel sorry for Ander Herrera in all this transfer business, he was happy to take a pay-cut to make a dream move to United.



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QUOTE(Seoliem @ Sep 3 2013, 10:54 AM)
Coentrao is officially off...haizz

i hope we can sign him by January...i rate him better than Baines or any LW Man Utd currently have
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i am not sure about afroman's doubters.

but i am convinced that he will succeed at old trafford.

i still remembered how he single-handed cost us the trophy 2 seasons ago (4-4 draw at goodison park....)
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excited abt fellaini even we fell over herrera's signature.....well, afroman could be vital for us in midfield...

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United's Herrera Failure Emblematic of Embarrassing Transfer Window

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1759394...transfer-window

OMG. Got to feel sorry for Ander Herrera in all this transfer business, he was happy to take a pay-cut to make a dream move to United.
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If this stuff is actually true, then hopefully United hire someone to handle negotiations.

Let Woodward oversee/rubber-stamp deals, but hire someone to do the dirty work.
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"Confirmation from Manchester United that three men who reportedly attempted to negotiate a deal to sign Athletic Bilboa midfielder Ander Herrera were not acting on behalf of the Premier League champions and were, for want of another word, imposters.

"Reports in Spain claim three men dressed in black suits and claiming to be United "representatives" spent an hour at the La Liga offices attempting to negotiate a deal. The move collapsed at the 11th hour."

- seriously I don't understand, what went wrong? they cant identified whose the legit rep from ManUtd?
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Blame it on Woodward. He's a newbie in player's transfer.
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QUOTE(chaiyya345 @ Sep 3 2013, 11:30 AM)
*BREAKING NEWS*
"Confirmation from Manchester United that three men who reportedly attempted to negotiate a deal to sign Athletic Bilboa midfielder Ander Herrera were not acting on behalf of the Premier League champions and were, for want of another word, imposters.

"Reports in Spain claim three men dressed in black suits and claiming to be United "representatives" spent an hour at the La Liga offices attempting to negotiate a deal. The move collapsed at the 11th hour."

- seriously I don't understand, what went wrong? they cant identified whose the legit rep from ManUtd?
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like I said, sabotage by someone. and its our fault for lack of understanding of spanish tax/payment

I just watched youtube on last season fellaini, not as brilliant as 2 years ago, but resilient and good passes, and lastly, that lethal afro header! biggrin.gif seriously, that was his imprint in my brain, AFRO HEADER!鐵頭功！WHAM! goal. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Sep 3 2013, 11:38 AM)
like I said, sabotage by someone. and its our fault for lack of understanding of spanish tax/payment

I just watched youtube on last season fellaini, not as brilliant as 2 years ago, but resilient and good passes, and lastly, that lethal afro header! biggrin.gif seriously, that was his imprint in my brain, AFRO HEADER!鐵頭功！WHAM! goal. tongue.gif
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supposed to be bald not afro doh.gif

he should be a good ball winner for us in the middle of the park now
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later ball stuck to his hair brows.gif

he is tall and strong, should give us bit more command.

still hoping kagawa gets his play.
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his header is unpredictable.. his afro like sponge could bounce anywhere lol..
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Woke up to chaos inthe transfer market for us. Imposters and multiple last minute deals.now thats new.

Never a fan of fellaini. But of course i hope he does well. Just wondering where kagawa will fit in now. Maybe he should grow an afro to attract moyes attention.
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Whatever happened........We welcome you Marouane Fellaini !!
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With Fellaini now,maybe we can try 4-2-3-1?

De Gea

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Carrick Fellaini

Nani Rooney Kagawa

RVP/Welbeck/Chicharito

Probably our best 1st eleven. Nani Rooney Kagawa can switch position between them during the game, to confuse opponent, just like last time Ronaldo Rooney Tevez combo. rclxms.gif
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The most depressing transfer windows due to:

1. Our ways of doing the process. By making it public and fall flat due to multiple rejection. It's embarrassing for a club like United.

2. Woodward negotiating cheap price for almost everyone. What the fish is he thinking? He thought he is Jew ke?

But I very much welcome Afroman. Can't wait for my next jersey brows.gif
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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Sep 3 2013, 06:41 AM)
I can't recall us having to loan other people's players for a while =/ normally its us loaning others. Or that i was still young and ignorant about these news tongue.gif

So now, coentrao, fellaini? Herrera's news saying 3 people showed up but were imposters of united. What the heck is this??
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what is the number will afroman wear?
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That photography session seem so rushed...
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its late night photography session..
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Available number:

7
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21 (henriquez number-went on loan)
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32 (powell number-went on loan)
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I guess he will get number 21
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lets hope arsenal take a good care of ozil. Next season we go take him to OT like v. persie muahahaha
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We somehow signed Tevez on loan too, 2 years loan. 'LOAN' whistling.gif
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Enough with the negativity. Please welcome our latest additions:
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Guys, Fabip Coentrao confirmed on loan or not?
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Sep 3 2013, 12:05 PM)
With Fellaini now,maybe we can try 4-2-3-1?

De Gea

Rafael Ferdinand Vidic Evra

  Carrick Fellaini

Nani Rooney Kagawa

    RVP/Welbeck/Chicharito

Probably our best 1st eleven. Nani Rooney Kagawa can switch position between them during the game, to confuse opponent, just like last time Ronaldo Rooney Tevez combo.  rclxms.gif
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I loike this 4-2-3-1 smile.gif more power and spice. should give RVP some break too.

QUOTE(franco87 @ Sep 3 2013, 12:37 PM)
Guys, Fabip Coentrao confirmed on loan or not?
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sounds like dah mati.
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Available number:

7
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21 (henriquez number-went on loan)
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32 (powell number-went on loan)
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I guess he will get number 21
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hopefully not 7. 7 is just reserve for someone special i hope. biggrin.gif.
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Guys, Fabip Coentrao confirmed on loan or not?
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isn't transfer window closed? or loan can sign anytime?
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isn't transfer window closed? or loan can sign anytime?
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If loan. i heard today still can if nego was made the day befrore.
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Good deal from us, but still the mess with Herrera deal shouldn't be look away.

Hopefully either Gill or SAF will have few words with Woodward on how he deal with the transfer so far. I expected more from him doh.gif grumble.gif
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Fellaini is a good addition to the club. It's really good to have DM with strong header and physical in our team. I hope Man United will not purchase player during mid Transfer windows as like Ferguson said before, it doesn't do much help as the person will not be eligible for the CL.

To be greedy enough. I do pray another midfielder coming in for the next season. And hopefully the next season transfer window will not be that hasteful @_@
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The 22-year-old, who was signed for £7.4million in 2010 but has NEVER started a game in the Barclays Premier League.
Bebe has two years left on the five year contract he signed upon his arrival in 2010, and his time at Old Trafford has often been overshadowed by mockery and confusion – with former boss Sir Alex Ferguson admitting he had not even seen a video of the player prior to splashing the cash three years ago.


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You guys just forget. With the addition of fellaini we just established ourself as the best header and aerial ability along side with vidic!!!
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I don't really care who we sign at the end of the day, its the way we dealt with all the transfer targets within this transfer windows that worried me, screwing over Herrera's deal (really feels sorry for the lad), just to pay 5millions more than what Fellaini's buy out clause was set at and it was done at literally the last second (when we all expected him to come over AT THE START OF THIS WINDOW)

not to mention bidding for Cesc just merely days after Barca sold another midfielder (read: Thiago), and what were the bid? 25m, yes, we wanted to buy Cesc with a bid lower than what we paid for Fellaini, and not just Cesc, we also went into Baines with low bid as well

and in the end? we didnt really saved any money but instead had to overpay for the only signing that we made doh.gif
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QUOTE(TheMakers @ Sep 3 2013, 01:01 PM)
Fellaini is a good addition to the club. It's really good to have DM with strong header and physical in our team. I hope Man United will not purchase player during mid Transfer windows as like Ferguson said before, it doesn't do much help as the person will not be eligible for the CL.

To be greedy enough. I do pray another midfielder coming in for the next season. And hopefully the next season transfer window will not be that hasteful @_@
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Agree, but I fear we will do that. If Moyes dont have a good run in during christmas it will not be a surprise if we went to panic mode and buy someone during that period. I feel for Moyes sad.gif the board should assess themselves so that it won't happen again next summer.
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Wish Fellaini the best in our team, imo he can be a good B2B player against the lower ranked team and against the big5 focus on ball winning and posing threat in set pieces

btw why does ars needs so many no.10 players blush.gif

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QUOTE(dEviLs @ Sep 3 2013, 01:24 PM)
Wish Fellaini the best in our team, imo he can be a good B2B player against the lower ranked team and against the big5 focus on ball winning and posing threat in set pieces

btw why does ars needs so many no.10 players  blush.gif
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our new (?) negotiation team are joke. feel sorry for Moyes.

but im happy to addition of Fellaini. no way he is world beater, but he'll give us something different. his price is eye watering. i hope he dont feel to much pressure.

if we can renew contract of Nani and Wazza, and they recapture their lost form, we'll defend our title.

but Chelsea, City, Spurs, Arsenal and Pools all straightening. seem all looked like title contenders. end up 2nd will not too disappointing if u ask me now, 3rd will be a failure though..
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QUOTE(dundermifflin @ Sep 3 2013, 01:42 PM)
our new (?) negotiation team are joke. feel sorry for Moyes.

but im happy to addition of Fellaini. no way he is world beater, but he'll give us something different. his price is eye watering. i hope he dont feel to much pressure.

if we can renew contract of Nani and Wazza, and they recapture their lost form, we'll defend our title.

but Chelsea, City, Spurs, Arsenal and Pools all straightening. seem all looked like title contenders. end up 2nd will not too disappointing if u ask me now, 3rd will be a failure though..
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Suddenly have a good feeling on Fellaini, imagine those crosses drool.gif
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Sep 3 2013, 12:05 PM)
With Fellaini now,maybe we can try 4-2-3-1?

De Gea

Rafael Ferdinand Vidic Evra

   Carrick Fellaini

Nani Rooney Kagawa

    RVP/Welbeck/Chicharito

Probably our best 1st eleven. Nani Rooney Kagawa can switch position between them during the game, to confuse opponent, just like last time Ronaldo Rooney Tevez combo.  rclxms.gif
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looks convincing, fellaini as B2B or ball winning mf, carrick as deeplying playmaker

rooney, kagawa and RVP can swap positions freely flex.gif

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y I sense the new signing is kinda like "buleh lor dari apa pun takdak" lolz...
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y I sense the new signing is kinda like "buleh lor dari apa pun takdak" lolz...
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no la.. fellaini maybe not the primary target but i believe fellaini always an option.. just the way united handling the transfer just bad. seem like kayuward sgt kedekut ones..

so happy we finally bring fellaini in.. he will be good addition/an upgrade from cleverley/ando partnering carrick. i truly believe they can compliment each other in the center mid. i think carrick also can hv more role in attacking now wt fellaini beside him. alternating role between them..
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Bench warmers for both sets: Welbeck, Macheda, Young, Fabio, Januzaj, Lingard.
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You guys just forget. With the addition of fellaini we just established ourself as the best header and aerial ability along side with vidic!!!
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Got people going to dispute that after they signed a certain French defender whistling.gif
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Got people going to dispute that after they signed a certain French defender  whistling.gif
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Looking from this video, he is actually good, providing strong midfield force to United. And he can dribble well too. thumbup.gif

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Cannot brain la ppl saying Fellaini not gud enuf. rclxub.gif

Last season every team tht faces everton needs to give him bodyguard. (e.g: jones, luiz etc)

once his foot enters the other half, confirm got ppl pelok edi.

Now we have 2 players tht'll give the opponent headache, RVP and afroman.

Giving tonnes of free space to other players. So chills~

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I might get flak for this but I am just going to write it as a "thinking out loud" post because it has been bugging me for sometime now.

You can be a fan of Manchester United if you like:
1) Heart attack moments in every game and late winners
2) Frustrating transfer dealings and seldom buying superstars
3) Sometimes losing to rivals over the course of the season and have to endure their short term bragging rights
4) Only can brag when the team wins silverware at the end of the season

You can be a fan of Chelsea if you like:
1) Having a egomaniac manager that has better lines that "managers" of WWE wrestlers.
2) Always able to buy superstars every transfer window but see 1/5 of them flop, especially strikers.
3) Being in contention for silverware at home or europe every season,

You can be a fan of Liverpool if you like:
1) Short term bragging rights when winning against rivals yet don't have the horsepower to mount a challenge over the course of a season.
2) Enjoy a brand of anti-football similar to Mourinho as Rodgers adapts his own style to his former senior's teachings.
3) Enjoy Rodgers approach to youth and pace

You can be a fan of Arsenal if you like:
1) To have a stingy manager whom will sometimes go too far when it comes to saving money on behalf of the club, can be frustrating at times when he usually signs nobody's from Africa and France but he always seems to get the best out of the 3/5 times.
2) A team which can be considered the Barcelona of BPL which strives to play beautiful football even when they should just play to get a result.
3) Don't mind calling yourself a Goon.

You can be a fan of Manchester City if you like:
1) Changing managers every season, thus direction and style of play changes from season to season with nothing constant.
2) Near unlimited funds and no player's reserve price is unreachable thus transfer season is a real life version of FM yet just buying superstars and putting them into a squad doesn't always make them a team.
3) Even when recently winning the title and always having more money to buy players than arch rivals United, you always feel you're over compensating as the club has still a long way to go before it can have the tradition, heritage and history of some of the more establish BPL clubs - thus plastic is a moniker often associated even for die-hard fans as people in general don't think players go to City for anything else than money.
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QUOTE(zenix @ Sep 3 2013, 03:13 PM)
I might get flak for this but I am just going to write it as a "thinking out loud" post because it has been bugging me for sometime now.

You can be a fan of Manchester United if you like:
1) Heart attack moments in every game and late winners
2) Frustrating transfer dealings and seldom buying superstars
3) Sometimes losing to rivals over the course of the season and have to endure their short term bragging rights
4) Only can brag when the team wins silverware at the end of the season

You can be a fan of Chelsea if you like:
1) Having a egomaniac manager that has better lines that "managers" of WWE wrestlers.
2) Always able to buy superstars every transfer window but see 1/5 of them flop, especially strikers.
3) Being in contention for silverware at home or europe every season,

You can be a fan of Liverpool if you like:
1) Short term bragging rights when winning against rivals yet don't have the horsepower to mount a challenge over the course of a season.
2) Enjoy a brand of anti-football similar to Mourinho as Rodgers adapts his own style to his former senior's teachings.
3) Enjoy Rodgers approach to youth and pace

You can be a fan of Arsenal if you like:
1) To have a stingy manager whom will sometimes go too far when it comes to saving money on behalf of the club, can be frustrating at times when he usually signs nobody's from Africa and France but he always seems to get the best out of the 3/5 times.
2) A team which can be considered the Barcelona of BPL which strives to play beautiful football even when they should just play to get a result.
3) Don't mind calling yourself a Goon.

You can be a fan of Manchester City if you like:
1) Changing managers every season, thus direction and style of play changes from season to season with nothing constant.
2) Near unlimited funds and no player's reserve price is unreachable thus transfer season is a real life version of FM yet just buying superstars and putting them into a squad doesn't always make them a team.
3) Even when recently winning the title and always having more money to buy players than arch rivals United, you always feel you're over compensating as the club has still a long way to go before it can have the tradition, heritage and history of some of the more establish BPL clubs - thus plastic is a moniker often associated even for die-hard fans as people in general don't think players go to City for anything else than money.
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QUOTE(zenix @ Sep 3 2013, 03:13 PM)
I might get flak for this but I am just going to write it as a "thinking out loud" post because it has been bugging me for sometime now.

You can be a fan of Manchester United if you like:
1) Heart attack moments in every game and late winners
2) Frustrating transfer dealings and seldom buying superstars
3) Sometimes losing to rivals over the course of the season and have to endure their short term bragging rights
4) Only can brag when the team wins silverware at the end of the season

You can be a fan of Chelsea if you like:
1) Having a egomaniac manager that has better lines that "managers" of WWE wrestlers.
2) Always able to buy superstars every transfer window but see 1/5 of them flop, especially strikers.
3) Being in contention for silverware at home or europe every season,

You can be a fan of Liverpool if you like:
1) Short term bragging rights when winning against rivals yet don't have the horsepower to mount a challenge over the course of a season.
2) Enjoy a brand of anti-football similar to Mourinho as Rodgers adapts his own style to his former senior's teachings.
3) Enjoy Rodgers approach to youth and pace

You can be a fan of Arsenal if you like:
1) To have a stingy manager whom will sometimes go too far when it comes to saving money on behalf of the club, can be frustrating at times when he usually signs nobody's from Africa and France but he always seems to get the best out of the 3/5 times.
2) A team which can be considered the Barcelona of BPL which strives to play beautiful football even when they should just play to get a result.
3) Don't mind calling yourself a Goon.

You can be a fan of Manchester City if you like:
1) Changing managers every season, thus direction and style of play changes from season to season with nothing constant.
2) Near unlimited funds and no player's reserve price is unreachable thus transfer season is a real life version of FM yet just buying superstars and putting them into a squad doesn't always make them a team.
3) Even when recently winning the title and always having more money to buy players than arch rivals United, you always feel you're over compensating as the club has still a long way to go before it can have the tradition, heritage and history of some of the more establish BPL clubs - thus plastic is a moniker often associated even for die-hard fans as people in general don't think players go to City for anything else than money.
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QUOTE(zenix @ Sep 3 2013, 03:13 PM)
I might get flak for this but I am just going to write it as a "thinking out loud" post because it has been bugging me for sometime now.

You can be a fan of Manchester United if you like:
1) Heart attack moments in every game and late winners
2) Frustrating transfer dealings and seldom buying superstars
3) Sometimes losing to rivals over the course of the season and have to endure their short term bragging rights
4) Only can brag when the team wins silverware at the end of the season

You can be a fan of Chelsea if you like:
1) Having a egomaniac manager that has better lines that "managers" of WWE wrestlers.
2) Always able to buy superstars every transfer window but see 1/5 of them flop, especially strikers.
3) Being in contention for silverware at home or europe every season,

You can be a fan of Liverpool if you like:
1) Short term bragging rights when winning against rivals yet don't have the horsepower to mount a challenge over the course of a season.
2) Enjoy a brand of anti-football similar to Mourinho as Rodgers adapts his own style to his former senior's teachings.
3) Enjoy Rodgers approach to youth and pace

You can be a fan of Arsenal if you like:
1) To have a stingy manager whom will sometimes go too far when it comes to saving money on behalf of the club, can be frustrating at times when he usually signs nobody's from Africa and France but he always seems to get the best out of the 3/5 times.
2) A team which can be considered the Barcelona of BPL which strives to play beautiful football even when they should just play to get a result.
3) Don't mind calling yourself a Goon.

You can be a fan of Manchester City if you like:
1) Changing managers every season, thus direction and style of play changes from season to season with nothing constant.
2) Near unlimited funds and no player's reserve price is unreachable thus transfer season is a real life version of FM yet just buying superstars and putting them into a squad doesn't always make them a team.
3) Even when recently winning the title and always having more money to buy players than arch rivals United, you always feel you're over compensating as the club has still a long way to go before it can have the tradition, heritage and history of some of the more establish BPL clubs - thus plastic is a moniker often associated even for die-hard fans as people in general don't think players go to City for anything else than money.
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Not forgetting that United have more British players on-field than any other squads that you've mentioned above.

Take the example of the game against Chelsea:

Jones, Ferdinand, Young, Welbeck, Carrick and Giggs.

Managed by a Brit (Scottish), the British talent lives long. In Britian we trust. brows.gif
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its just an honest opinion not really bashing tongue.gif

then again i did forget to mention united also produces alot of talent in terms of players and managers for england hmm.gif
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Cannot brain la ppl saying Fellaini not gud enuf.  rclxub.gif

Last season every team tht faces everton needs to give him bodyguard. (e.g: jones, luiz etc)

once his foot enters the other half, confirm got ppl pelok edi.

Now we have 2 players tht'll give the opponent headache, RVP and afroman.

Giving tonnes of free space to other players. So chills~

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so now the deal will be fellaini>fabregas

(2 seasons ago, kagawa > hazard)
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QUOTE(zenix @ Sep 3 2013, 03:13 PM)
I might get flak for this but I am just going to write it as a "thinking out loud" post because it has been bugging me for sometime now.

You can be a fan of Manchester United if you like:
1) Heart attack moments in every game and late winners
2) Frustrating transfer dealings and seldom buying superstars
3) Sometimes losing to rivals over the course of the season and have to endure their short term bragging rights
4) Only can brag when the team wins silverware at the end of the season

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First point is so true! Many times over the years I've watched a game and wondered the effect on my heart in the long term hahahaha!

2nd point is kind of true. We signed some superstar players over the years, for me the only frustrating transfer dealings were in recent years because SAF didn't reinforce CM or when players chose to stay in their own domestic league or preferred to sign for Barca/RM.

3rd and 4th point is no sweat!
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QUOTE(blueisthecolour @ Sep 3 2013, 03:56 PM)
so now the deal will be fellaini>fabregas

(2 seasons ago, kagawa > hazard)
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nah, we tried the better ones, but they dont want to join us.. what else can we do? 2nd option arent bad option what?

the United fans saying that (Kagawa>Hazard etc), are deluded and sour graping..
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morning lads...

suck it up...with the transfer window close...#welkamfellaini...

as i sum up the signing that we craving for...at the beginning of moyes reign...i did say that im happy enuf if moyesy didnt get any signing...as long as the team of champion he inherit from saf stay together...he done well in keep roon n make him fit...nobody left kan...nani is on verge of new contract...there is talk of new batch of contract after transfer window close from the management...nani wazza etc...as i see it...moyes done well coming in and settle down...above all player that we hav n new signing arrive...for me it is moyes who shud the one to be bed himself to the club first...he did that magnificently in pre season setup till now...the lads all are on their toes...early in the season...we get big 5 opening games...ever...as per my liking...the team is on fire...determined...work their socks off in all 3 past game...he need to know his squad 1st...the strength...the weakness...areas to improved...its not broken why fix...he is happy with the squad he hav rite now...i bet he not done yet squeeze every talent n potential from the lads...

he's just begin...for those who dont get about what his comment after pool game...yes...i see the same game that moyes put on...we play the best football this season after just 3 games...i see as the season goes...more best football gonna top this one...as for me...its quite sometimes past 2-3 season game vs liverpool,rival etc that i had goosebump chill excited match...apart from the goal...i tot we were in control from front to the back...even when we loose the ball...all the lads make sure we get it back...do u see any clear chances they create to threat ddg...i tot ddg had a quite game...a quite game vs rival liverpool...really...did we see that every past season...1st half we go neck to neck with them...2nd half we bring it to them...while their game vs villa if u follow...u can see that kind of 2nd half...coutinho n sturidge isolated up front...i do understand it doesnt matter how we play...3 or 1 point is important...i rather lose point now n get thing kick on as the season goes n get into momentum...rather later tumble against minnow side...

rvp no where around be seen...i do see he is playing his role as a forward...alone...stick to sktel n agger...send anyone against this 2...u gonna be smack...that what CB do...dont let him play...he will do damage if u let him...kesian kan...thats why rooney is vital to partner him...shoulder his burden together...sadly he is out injured...if rooney is there...i bet we will hav same line up vs chelsea...

and we play like everton???really...i tot moyes want us to play that way...its him want everton to play like that...high pace press...i really like that kind of game...make u off ur seat all the way...i think thats how to play football...exactly how i play n luv to watch...u dont let the opponent hav the ball n let them harm u...if u let them...they gain confidence...for me...a human a player...give them confidence...let them express themself...they gonna do amazing things...look at bale...CR...messi...their confident is all time high n they can do anything to express their talent...given a team full of confidence...think what u can get...cardiff can beat city...after a gameplan n contain them 1st half...so...to me...i like the way we play now...very exciting...for those who tot it was boring...please to share ur tot...wud luv to hear...

i never understand the bashing on clev really...he is playing the role he is assign...wat u wanna expect from him?do a ronaldo?do a cesc n thiago?his strength is passing...not really dribbling...what he do best as i see it is switching play...bring composure in the middle like carrick...controlling the tempo...for me...the reason we go after thiago n cesc n even harrera is we need their split razor defend weighted passing from deep...if we wanna play targetman or high ball from midfield...i tot we hav carrick (dem i miss scholesy)...clev is not yet that kind of player...he is not yet that confident to do that pass...to me ando is an option...but he is not ready fit yet for that kind of high intensity game...if he play...carrick will left alone in the middle...ando can do the razor sharp pass but always over weighted n he can dribble thru the middle but left carrick alone...thats why i tot they go with clev...n clev had a full pre season n play previous 2 games effectively...kagawa is an option...but behind striker in the hole...if he play along side carrick...can he track back like clev did all along the game...i bet he is not ready yet for hard battle tackle in BPL...he taste it last season...but if go to battle...i tot he gonna be smack...that why fellaini shud be sign...give us steel there...while kagawa can focus in the hole to do his business...

still i think moyes wud luv to hav spanish essence of passing even we hav sign fellaini...he gonna need it against diff type dimension team...then again...why dont we go for ozil?i luv ozil games...but do the team can accomodate him...i tot players brought in to accomodate the team...as much as world class he is...i put him in same breath as mata n silva...he will taste the wrath of BPL...the way moyes want us to play doesnt suit to bring him in...42 million...is super mahal...i wud prefer we use that money next season or two for barkley...

anyway...just my 2 sen...all in all...i want to see more game under moyes...all the lads back into fold...healthy football...clean rivalry...no international injury...more football plsss...

p/s : sinoffire help me spoiler...bring on new challenger TLDR...ahahaha...more to come but i mess my point everywhere...next time i hire writer or maybe buat rangka karangan dulu...haiyaaa...

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Fellaini is a good addition to the club. It's really good to have DM with strong header and physical in our team. I hope Man United will not purchase player during mid Transfer windows as like Ferguson said before, it doesn't do much help as the person will not be eligible for the CL.

To be greedy enough. I do pray another midfielder coming in for the next season. And hopefully the next season transfer window will not be that hasteful @_@
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It always confuse me why being cup tied for the CL is a negative thing. Sure the new player won't be able to feature for us in the CL, but we should look long term. If a good player is available for a price comfortable for us, by all means go ahead and get it done. He'll get to gel with the team, and ready to kick on come start of next season ala Evra, Vida, Saha.

QUOTE(dlct87 @ Sep 3 2013, 01:18 PM)
I don't really care who we sign at the end of the day, its the way we dealt with all the transfer targets within this transfer windows that worried me, screwing over Herrera's deal (really feels sorry for the lad), just to pay 5millions more than what Fellaini's buy out clause was set at and it was done at literally the last second (when we all expected him to come over AT THE START OF THIS WINDOW)

not to mention bidding for Cesc just merely days after Barca sold another midfielder (read: Thiago), and what were the bid? 25m, yes, we wanted to buy Cesc with a bid lower than what we paid for Fellaini, and not just Cesc, we also went into Baines with low bid as well

and in the end? we didnt really saved any money but instead had to overpay for the only signing that we made doh.gif
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Really puzzling how we go about our business.
Thiago ok lah, he wanted to suck Pep's..even have the same agent, Pep's brother.
Cesc..with Thiago gone, new manager managed to convinced him to stay perhaps. But Cesc told us he wanted to stay almost a month ago. WTF were we doing during those times? Train Woodward on FM?

Fellaini, perhaps we had other targets ahead of him in the queue, thats why we didn't bid earlier, but why wait until after his clause expired, and have to scramble on dateline day to get him, paying 5m more than we would have a month back. Great business that. Just imagine if Everton failed to get any CMs.. we wouldn't have got him. It's stupid.

As for Herrera..why bid yesterday and not 2-3 weeks back after Cesc said no to us? And we bid 30m when his clause is at 36m. Come on! When it got rejected we should have gone full retard trying to get that deal done, whatever it takes, since it's only a few millions more. Bayern last season had some trouble trying to get Martinez from them, even after they met the clause since it's a bit complicated with the player having to pay the clause himself, or something along those lines. We should have known and been prepared for that. Even a week would have given us enough time. Just hope that we didn't pissed Herrera and Bilbao off if we try to get him later on.

As for Baines, he's 29, so it's understandable if we weren't prepared to pay what it takes to get him here ala Fellaini. We tried for Coentrao, but Real couldn't get a replacement in time so that loan move went dead at the end. Clearly Moyes wanted to get someone who can supply crosses from down the left since all our wingers and not left footed. Even Evra is crossing early these days, but we know that's not his strong point. As brilliant as he's been for us, and last season he was very good, we need to look ahead. And he's not young anymore. It's Moyes team now. So he'll want to shape the side according to what his gameplan requires. Nani/Welbeck/Kagawa down left wing, coming inside, leaving the LB space to cross the ball.

Good thing for us is Nani is staying on. Since Young is shit, and Valencia's crossing and attacking play still deserting him we will need to look to him to come up with something special. With the harder games out of the way soon, hope we get to see Zaha feature in the next few games. With those two we'll be fine when they get although we will have t be patient with Zaha. Still young and learning.
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QUOTE(dundermifflin @ Sep 3 2013, 04:26 PM)
nah, we tried the better ones, but they dont want to join us.. what else can we do? 2nd option arent bad option what?

the United fans saying that (Kagawa>Hazard etc), are deluded and sour graping..
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QUOTE(budakhijau @ Sep 3 2013, 04:26 PM)
morning lads...

suck it up...with the transfer window close...#welkamfellaini...

as i sum up the signing that we craving for...at the beginning of moyes reign...i did say that im happy enuf if moyesy didnt get any signing...as long as the team of champion he inherit from saf stay together...he done well in keep roon n make him fit...nobody left kan...nani is on verge of new contract...there is talk of new batch of contract after transfer window close from the management...nani wazza etc...as i see it...moyes done well coming in and settle down...above all player that we hav n new signing arrive...for me it is moyes who shud the one to be bed himself to the club first...he did that  magnificently in pre season setup till now...the lads all are on their toes...early in the season...we get big 5 opening games...ever...as per my liking...the team is on fire...determined...work their socks off in all 3 past game...he need to know his squad 1st...the strength...the weakness...areas to improved...its not broken why fix...he is happy with the squad he hav rite now...i bet he not done yet squeeze every talent n potential from the lads...

he's just begin...for those who dont get about what his comment after pool game...yes...i see the same game that moyes put on...we play the best football this season after just 3 games...i see as the season goes...more best football gonna top this one...as for me...its quite sometimes past 2-3 season game vs liverpool,rival etc that i had goosebump chill excited match...apart from the goal...i tot we were in control from front to the back...even when we loose the ball...all the lads make sure we get it back...do u see any clear chances they create to threat ddg...i tot ddg had a quite game...a quite game vs rival liverpool...really...did we see that every past season...1st half we go neck to neck with them...2nd half we bring it to them...while their game vs villa if u follow...u can see that kind of 2nd half...coutinho n sturidge isolated up front...i do understand it doesnt matter how we play...3 or 1 point is important...i rather lose point now n get thing kick on as the season goes n get into momentum...later tumble against minnow side...

rvp no where around be seen...i do see he is playing his role as a forward...alone...stick to sktel n agger...send anyone against this 2...u gonna be smack...that what CB do...dont let him play...he will do damage if u let him...kesian kan...thats why rooney is vital to partner him...shoulder his burden together...sadly he is out injured...if rooney is there...i bet we will hav same line up vs chelsea...

and we play like everton???really...i tot moyes want us to play that way...its him want everton to play like that...high pace press...i really like that kind of game...make u off ur seat all the way...i think thats how to play football...exactly how i play n luv to watch...u dont let the opponent hav the ball n let them harm u...if u let them...they gain confidence...for me...a human a player...give them confidence...let them express themself...they gonna do amazing things...look at bale...CR...messi...their confident is all time high n they can do anything to express their talent...given a team full of confidence...think what u can get...cardiff can beat city...after a gameplan n contain them 1st half...so...to me...i like the way we play now...very exciting...for those who tot it was boring...please to share ur tot...wud luv to hear...

i never understand the bashing on clev really...he is playing the role he is assign...wat u wanna expect from him?do a ronaldo?do a cesc n thiago?his strength is passing...not really dribbling...what he do best as i see it is switching play...bring composure in the middle like carrick...controlling the tempo...for me...the reason we go after thiago n cesc n even harrera is we need their split razor defend weighted passing from deep...if we wanna play targetman or high ball from midfield...i tot we hav carrick (dem i miss scholesy)...clev is not yet that kind of player...he is not yet that confident to do that pass...to me ando is an option...but he is not ready fit yet for that kind of high intensity game...if he play...carrick will left alone in the middle...ando can do the razor sharp pass but always over weighted n he can dribble thru the middle but left carrick alone...thats why i tot they go with clev...n clev had a full pre season n play previous 2 games effectively...kagawa is an option...but behind striker in the hole...if he play along side carrick...can he track back like clev did all along the game...i bet he is not ready yet for hard battle tackle in BPL...he taste it last season...but if go to battle...i tot he gonna be smack...that why fellaini shud be sign...give us steel there...while kagawa can focus in the hole to do his business...

still i think moyes wud luv to hav spanish essence of passing even we hav sign fellaini...he gonna need it against diff type dimension team...then again...why dont we go for ozil?i luv ozil games...but do the team can accomodate him...i tot players brought in to accomodate the team...as much as world class he is...i put him in same breath as mata n silva...he will taste the wrath of BPL...the way moyes want us to play doesnt suit to bring him in...42 million...is super mahal...i wud prefer we use that money next season or two for barkley...

anyway...just my 2 sen...all in all...i want to see more game under moyes...all the lads back into fold...healthy football...clean rivalry...no international injury...more football plsss...

p/s : sinoffire help me spoiler...bring on new challenger TLDR...ahahaha...more to come but i mess my point everywhere...next time i hire writer or maybe buat rangka karangan dulu...haiyaaa...
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This one deserves the tfl:dfr hahahahaa. Kidding.

Anyway I agree that DDG had a quiet game but he was always aware of his surroundings, noticed with Vidic misplaced his back pass, DDG was alert as ever.

I believe Kagawa deserves his chances should he be fit. A midfield comprising of Fellaini and Carrick combo is a good fit. You'd reckon if Rooney is push back to the left wing, Kagawa will get to play behind striker, hence a 4-4-1-1 formation. Only if Rooney is willing to play on the left or rotate between Carrick and Fellaini.

Nani needs to buck up. He has the talent, just need to grab his chances and improve. Ashley Young, no comment.

Interesting times ahead.
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we should be hiring someone who has experience in transfer dealings before, not promoting a marketing chief straight to CEO as both positions requires different approach even though its similar

we are Manchester United, we are not a "training ground" for new CEOs
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on a bright side, we didn't lose any core players that won us the premiership bar scholes

with valencia becoming more of himself, i think we can be optimistic here
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we should be hiring someone who has experience in transfer dealings before, not promoting a marketing chief straight to CEO as both positions requires different approach even though its similar

we are Manchester United, we are not a "training ground" for new CEOs
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if ozil can perform like he play at RM.. arsenal will be force this season.. imagine all those pass and possesion finally make it through upfront..

this season sure gonna be most unpredictable..
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if ozil can perform like he play at RM.. arsenal will be force this season.. imagine all those pass and possesion finally make it through upfront..

this season sure gonna be most unpredictable..
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somehow we dont need this kind of player... yeah right!
we need player that have killer pass & move, Kagawa did this at Dortmund flawlessly and creating chances in the process with help of other player that playing the same style...
Kagawa cant hold the ball for long... he doesn't has the body strength to do so... thus pass & move is the key for him
imagine the combo between Kagawa and Ozil... sad.gif


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can we expect Fellaini to produce similar impact as Hargreaves did? or is he totally different type of player?
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Asking for a solid CM, getting a CM who could single-handedly destroy our team, whom having great strength which the team is lacking of it, still complaining..

Ander for £30m is just too much of gamble, the only regret I have is the failure to sign Coentrao. Now you can imagine how our corners/set pieces can even be more dangerous, how Carrick could have more advance role and deliver the killer pass.

And yes, the 4millions difference was risk worth taking.

Stop calling for head and stand behind the club, be it the manager or the CEO. It is a decent transfer window, we got what we need, it is far from the bad we have in recent 10 years.
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QUOTE(alowie @ Sep 3 2013, 08:04 PM)
Asking for a solid CM, getting a CM who could single-handedly destroy our team, whom having great strength which the team is lacking of it, still complaining..

Ander for £30m is just too much of gamble, the only regret I have is the failure to sign Coentrao. Now you can imagine how our corners/set pieces can even be more dangerous, how Carrick could have more advance role and deliver the killer pass.

And yes, the 4millions difference was risk worth taking.

Stop calling for head and stand behind the club, be it the manager or the CEO. It is a decent transfer window, we got what we need, it is far from the bad we have in recent 10 years.
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don thk any1 here who watch pl regularly is that insane complaining about fellaini joining, its how the transfers have been handled...yeah we got what we need, but at what cost? and could we have gotten more?

many united fans are not pleased and they hav the right to be..i don rmb recent 10 years having such insane transfer deadline day with 2 failed deals and a deal that got through which should have been sorted out way earlier
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I sense a wee bit of hypocrisy from someone who recently bashed the team for their poor pre-season form, now doing a reverse effect? Amazing how people change their stance overtime until you don't even know what the heck is he trying to portray in the first place.

Hypocrisy at it's very best!

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don thk any1 here who watch pl regularly is that insane complaining about fellaini joining, its how the transfers have been handled...yeah we got what we need, but at what cost? and could we have gotten more?

many united fans are not pleased and they hav the right to be..i don rmb recent 10 years having such insane transfer deadline day with 2 failed deals and a deal that got through which should have been sorted out way earlier
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maybe we did have similar encounters in the past, but back then our transfer dealing werent made so OPEN by the club, therefore all the backlash from the fans because the club failed to deliver (that alone is one of the flaw in our way of conducting imo)
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Ahh, how old day are so good day. SAF saying not signing anyone. Keep on silent on transfer. Keep on.... keep on...

Bam! We sign RVP!
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QUOTE(dlct87 @ Sep 3 2013, 08:32 PM)
maybe we did have similar encounters in the past, but back then our transfer dealing werent made so OPEN by the club, therefore all the backlash from the fans because the club failed to deliver (that alone is one of the flaw in our way of conducting imo)
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yeah too much insider leak these days as well

nonetheless it still embarrasses the club especially of such stature
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during sir alex era even the failed deals were kept quiet... woodward era... failed deals all over the news...
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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Sep 3 2013, 08:13 PM)
don thk any1 here who watch pl regularly is that insane complaining about fellaini joining, its how the transfers have been handled...yeah we got what we need, but at what cost? and could we have gotten more?
many united fans are not pleased and they hav the right to be..i don rmb recent 10 years having such insane transfer deadline day with 2 failed deals and a deal that got through which should have been sorted out way earlier
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You don't blindly stand behind a club without criticizing certain aspects of what has been done. I support what the team is doing on the field. I support the managers decision to field the players of his choice (sometimes painful). But i won't support the handling of transfers throughout this window.

The club overpaid for Fellaini, he was just a panic buy. If he was the first choice, the club should have paid his release clause earlier, or is this uniteds way of saying sorry to Everton for poaching moysie?

All our transfers before were done quietly as to protect both clubs and the players involved if anything happened in between. Now, all our transfers are in an open book.

David Gill and Sir Alex stepping down almost concurrently hurt us bad. I will continue to stand behind the club and manager, but i will not stand it if they cause the downfall of the club Manchester United.

The owners and upper management must learn and do something about this worrying window, but must not be forced into any panic buys anymore. There is no value in the january window. Prices are normally inflated and players have already started their season for their respective clubs.
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Not sure if this is true, but seems to be rumours that United have a record 350 million pound revenue for 2012/13. rclxms.gif Sounds like that is almost enough to pay

the remaining debt. If this is true, you can thank Ed Woodward for the money coming in. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(gr8fr8 @ Sep 3 2013, 09:23 PM)
Not sure if this is true, but seems to be rumours that United have a record 350 million pound revenue for 2012/13.  rclxms.gif Sounds like that is almost enough to pay

the remaining debt. If this is true, you can thank Ed Woodward for the money coming in.  tongue.gif
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Revenue la dude...not profit
Anyway, i wonder if we offer 42mil to barca for fabregas, will barca accept? Hmm
Still think he is the best for our Midfield

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Supposed to put this one up last nite. but due to that bloody transfer window thingie & too busy fapping over those potential players joining. Hence the post now.

Flash back to weekend's north-west derby game. I dunno about u guys but we were simply overrun by their midfield. brazilian midfield + their captain + always-looked-blur-kid were pressuring our midfield duo all the time. We were stil playing our usual 442 whilst the home team were playing 451. Leaving their spanish + ex-Internazionale on the wing & the other 3 kept hassling our C16 + Clevz. C16 was unable to take his time and spray those delicious pass/cross that he intended. Hence the lost possession in the 1st half. But that 1st half performance is more than enough a testament for me that we bloody need a bulldog in the middle of the pitch to stand firm and kick opponents back to their closet and strike fear in them. Since early days, we had Keano, then came Hargo, and then Fletchinho at some point. I didn't put C16 in the list 'cos he simply not that kinda hard-tackling midfielder. Like my last long-post illustrated previously, he's likened to Pirlo, an all rounder that read the game well and make tackles when necessary. We've been crying for that steel in midfield for few years now. Fair enough, we make do with what we have in midfield as SAF chose to reinforce other areas of the field, which he did splendidly. 2nd half, home side is already started to protect the lead and not conceding. Seriously, with pariah centrebacks duo of them, we should be able to shackle them down with our constant wing play. But no, our wing were non-existant until Tony V came in. If you look at our midfeld that started that nite, Clev-C16-G11-Youngie. The latter two were non-existant until they got subbed. Offered no threat at any point of time. Waste of my time watching the team play. Wing play is always our forte. ManUtd without wing play is not ManUtd. So don't bloody change it. But sadly our wings were clipped that nite. Clipped by Glen-bloody-Johnson!! I personally never rated this guy at all. Their left back on the other hand...........Their 2 little wingers were so easily shackled if play with muscles. Just look at how Tony V shook off their beloved brazilian playmaker with ease (Welcome to BPL, beetches). There's a reason why Internazionale wanna offload him. Mark my word, he won't last long in his current club. Rmbr that "flying" Chilean winger that they once so proud lastime? He's currently plying his trade in Russian league now.

Anyway, we lost the game to ourselves. Not to the home side. Players failed to turn up when it matter the most. G11 has been starting for 3 games in a row. I have a jersey with his NNs on. But I think enough is enough. Player at his age should be a bit part player, not starting high-tension game like this. Bring experience to the young 'uns u say? How dafuq are the young 'uns gonna gain experience if you keep starting those old fags?!?! I foresee the same to Rio next season onwards. On the question where Jonesy should play. This guy is our new utility player, no doubt. But he impressed me during his Rovers' days when he was playing centre back and charging like a bulldog for every single ball as if his life depends on it. I'm not sure why SAF wanted him to play different position ie. DM/MC/RB but his true, natural position is where Rio + VIda is playing now: Centre-bloody-Back. Read a few articles, realised that my beloved DDG had a quiet nite aside from that fortuitous goal. But safe hands when called upon, which was rare from the home side.

Then again, what's done is done. We lost the game. 3pts gone. Like Vida said, it's stil early days. No need to panic yet. They might win the battle, but we will win the war!

Back to last nite's tranfer dateline. I came across a post in redcafe that you lotsa can read it HERE. What the poster said is rite. We've got bloody 2months to do all the stuff. But no, they decided to leave it til the end to do it. Seriously, u kidding me?! Kayu flew back to UK when the squad was in Australia tour in the middle of July. WIth the level of technologies nowadays, is it really necessary to fly back that urgent?! Seriously?! I kenot brain wtf was he doing since then.

Then, came along those ridiculous bids. £25m opening bid for Cesc. £12m for Baines. Less than £30m for the Everton duo, then increased to £35m for both. I'm not sure what weed are they smoking but these kinda bids are bound to get rejected without question. Not forgetting that we went public that we wanted to sign Cesc. I can't rmbr when was the lastime during SAF era that we publicly came out do that kinda announcement before the deal is completed. Heck, we always get surprises. We were linked with Thiago, then to Cesc, then to Cabaye, then outta nowhere emerged Herrera. We've got 2 months since June, 2-bloody-months to get all these settled but this Kayu chose to clock-up his airmiles for no goddamn reason. In the end, we only got what we've crying along, a steel, a threat in the air, an afro in the mould of Fellaini. Which brings me to another topic, DM has been a Toffee for the past decade me thinks. He knows well enough the contract that he negotiated with Fellaini. There's a release clause existed in afro's contract which expired in end-of-July. What was Kayu doing then?! No one knows if DM indeed had a gentleman agreement with Bill Kenwright that he can't use that clause. However the truth is Bill decided to screw DM over and we ended up paid few millions quid extra for afro's service. Some people pointed out that afro being 1st/2nd/panic buy. If you do not work in corporate world before, u don't know the trick at all. So read my previous redcafe link punya post. Until then, stfu.

As for Herrera, well this got me exciting outta nowhere. Those who knows me I'm a FM gamer. I played this guy before in one of my previous games and Herrera is like a combo of afro + C16, an all-rounder of a midfield. Can tackle + creative but physically abit sweat.gif I'm surprised to see his name suddenly popped outta nowhere. Could this be DM's new scout team's recommendation? If true, I think we can expect more already. Then again, Herrera was one of the star performer during our defeat to Bilbao in Europa League few seasons back. He has a release clause of £30.75m/36m euros. What did our Kayu do? He bidded 30m euros. But then again, this is still unconfirmed as apparently some "impostors" were in the mix and wanna get a cut outta the Herrera deal and pretended to be United officials. You can get more details in HERE. Poor kid. he reportedly willing to reduce his wage to join us, only to be screwed over by these buncha money-psychos. If we ever were to go back to him again during winter transfer, I doubt he will join us, again.

If Herrera deal were to go through, I can foresee both afro + Herrera will be our main midfield duo that'll boss BPL for a foreseeable future. As much potential as Clev has is concern, it'll depend how his development goes. Don't forget, Carrick aint young, we need someone to replace him, and that someone will not be Clev 'cos both of 'em play differently. That being said, with the addition of afro, i hope we can play that 4411 that once made DM's Everton so successful lastime around. Wing play + SS/AMC or whateva dahell uol wanna call that position + lone striker.

With that being said, that concludes my long post is long. Mau watch aeroplane drama riao.

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yeah truly agree la tat kayu say fly back urgent business in july 17th until now still nowhere to be seen...even ppl ask for interview oso no accept..willing to meet herrera clause pre tax oni, wtf is tat few extra mil don wan fork out, imposter thg lagi doh.gif ...then fellaini deal, our own website say undisclosed but everton website troll us gao gao put there 27.5 million juz to show us nid to pay extra 4 mil...these thgs really malu tahap maximum lolol...oso kesian moyes say got ppl up there backing but some so incompetent...

ok brb aeroplane drama liao
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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Sep 3 2013, 09:29 PM)
Supposed to put this one up last nite. but due to that bloody transfer window thingie & too busy fapping over those potential players joining. Hence the post now.

Flash back to weekend's north-west derby game. I dunno about u guys but we were simply overrun by their midfield. brazilian midfield + their captain + always-looked-blur-kid were pressuring our midfield duo all the time. We were stil playing our usual 442 whilst the home team were playing 451. Leaving their spanish + ex-Internazionale on the wing & the other 3 kept hassling our C16 + Clevz. C16 was unable to take his time and spray those delicious pass/cross that he intended. Hence the lost possession in the 1st half. But that 1st half performance is more than enough a testament for me that we bloody need a bulldog in the middle of the pitch to stand firm and kick opponents back to their closet and strike fear in them. Since early days, we had Keano, then came Hargo, and then Fletchinho at some point. I didn't put C16 in the list 'cos he simply not that kinda hard-tackling midfielder. Like my last long-post illustrated previously, he's likened to Pirlo, an all rounder that read the game well and make tackles when necessary. We've been crying for that steel in midfield for few years now. Fair enough, we make do with what we have in midfield as SAF chose to reinforce other areas of the field, which he did splendidly. 2nd half, home side is already started to protect the lead and not conceding. Seriously, with pariah centrebacks duo of them, we should be able to shackle them down with our constant wing play. But no, our wing were non-existant until Tony V came in. If you look at our midfeld that started that nite, Clev-C16-G11-Youngie. The latter two were non-existant until they got subbed. Offered no threat at any point of time. Waste of my time watching the team play. Wing play is always our forte. ManUtd without wing play is not ManUtd. So don't bloody change it. But sadly our wings were clipped that nite. Clipped by Glen-bloody-Johnson!! I personally never rated this guy at all. Their left back on the other hand...........Their 2 little wingers were so easily shackled if play with muscles. Just look at how Tony V shook off their beloved brazilian playmaker with ease (Welcome to BPL, beetches). There's a reason why Internazionale wanna offload him. Mark my word, he won't last long in his current club. Rmbr that "flying" Chilean winger that they once so proud lastime? He's currently plying his trade in Russian league now.

Anyway, we lost the game to ourselves. Not to the home side. Players failed to turn up when it matter the most. G11 has been starting for 3 games in a row. I have a jersey with his NNs on. But I think enough is enough. Player at his age should be a bit part player, not starting high-tension game like this. Bring experience to the young 'uns u say? How dafuq are the young 'uns gonna gain experience if you keep starting those old fags?!?! I foresee the same to Rio next season onwards. On the question where Jonesy should play. This guy is our new utility player, no doubt. But he impressed me during his Rovers' days when he was playing centre back and charging like a bulldog for every single ball as if his life depends on it. I'm not sure why SAF wanted him to play different position ie. DM/MC/RB but his true, natural position is where Rio + VIda is playing now: Centre-bloody-Back. Read a few articles, realised that my beloved DDG had a quiet nite aside from that fortuitous goal. But safe hands when called upon, which was rare from the home side.

Then again, what's done is done. We lost the game. 3pts gone. Like Vida said, it's stil early days. No need to panic yet. They might win the battle, but we will win the war!

Back to last nite's tranfer dateline. I came across a post in redcafe that you lotsa can read it HERE. What the poster said is rite. We've got bloody 2months to do all the stuff. But no, they decided to leave it til the end to do it. Seriously, u kidding me?! Kayu flew back to UK when the squad was in Australia tour in the middle of July. WIth the level of technologies nowadays, is it really necessary to fly back that urgent?! Seriously?! I kenot brain wtf was he doing since then.

Then, came along those ridiculous bids. £25m opening bid for Cesc. £12m for Baines. Less than £30m for the Everton duo, then increased to £35m for both. I'm not sure what weed are they smoking but these kinda bids are bound to get rejected without question. Not forgetting that we went public that we wanted to sign Cesc. I can't rmbr when was the lastime during SAF era that we publicly came out do that kinda announcement before the deal is completed. Heck, we always get surprises. We were linked with Thiago, then to Cesc, then to Cabaye, then outta nowhere emerged Herrera. We've got 2 months since June, 2-bloody-months to get all these settled but this Kayu chose to clock-up his airmiles for no goddamn reason. In the end, we only got what we've crying along, a steel, a threat in the air, an afro in the mould of Fellaini. Which brings me to another topic, DM has been a Toffee for the past decade me thinks. He knows well enough the contract that he negotiated with Fellaini. There's a release clause existed in afro's contract which expired in end-of-July. What was Kayu doing then?! No one knows if DM indeed had a gentleman agreement with Bill Kenwright that he can't use that clause. However the truth is Bill decided to screw DM over and we ended up paid few millions quid extra for afro's service. Some people pointed out that afro being 1st/2nd/panic buy. If you do not work in corporate world before, u don't know the trick at all. So read my previous redcafe link punya post. Until then, stfu.

As for Herrera, well this got me exciting outta nowhere. Those who knows me I'm a FM gamer. I played this guy before in one of my previous games and Herrera is like a combo of afro + C16, an all-rounder of a midfield. Can tackle + creative but physically abit sweat.gif I'm surprised to see his name suddenly popped outta nowhere. Could this be DM's new scout team's recommendation? If true, I think we can expect more already. Then again, Herrera was one of the star performer during our defeat to Bilbao in Europa League few seasons back. He has a release clause of £30.75m/36m euros. What did our Kayu do? He bidded 30m euros. But then again, this is still unconfirmed as apparently some "impostors" were in the mix and wanna get a cut outta the Herrera deal and pretended to be United officials. You can get more details in HERE. Poor kid. he reportedly willing to reduce his wage to join us, only to be screwed over by these buncha money-psychos. If we ever were to go back to him again during winter transfer, I doubt he will join us, again.

If Herrera deal were to go through, I can foresee both afro + Herrera will be our main midfield duo that'll boss BPL for a foreseeable future. As much potential as Clev has is concern, it'll depend how his development goes. Don't forget, Carrick aint young, we need someone to replace him, and that someone will not be Clev 'cos both of 'em play differently. That being said, with the addition of afro, i hope we can play that 4411 that once made DM's Everton so successful lastime around. Wing play + SS/AMC or whateva dahell uol wanna call that position + lone striker.

With that being said, that concludes my long post is long. Mau watch aeroplane drama riao.

EDIT: budakhijau beetch pls... NEXT.  brows.gif  brows.gif
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fuhhhh! tfl:dfr!

lazy wanna read. chat in the wasep group better la...
it's okay, the window has closed, no need to discuss further already, just hopeful that kayu can handle things better next time.
better talk about shares thing with andy yo!
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wat is thisss??? so long
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apa ni aeroplane drama fala fala...kasi u ending she chose sam over jayden tongue.gif

ok brb aeroplane drama liao
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fffffffffuuuuuuuuuuu Y U NO SPOILER?!?!

eh eh, josie more cun leh. holiday backup ok lar. there's another one, tracy i think...oso brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif

siyesli guys, read the 2 links i gif uol...
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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Sep 3 2013, 09:43 PM)
fffffffffuuuuuuuuuuu Y U NO SPOILER?!?!

eh eh, josie more cun leh. holiday backup ok lar. there's another one, tracy i think...oso  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif

siyesli guys, read the 2 links i gif uol...
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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Sep 3 2013, 09:43 PM)
fffffffffuuuuuuuuuuu Y U NO SPOILER?!?!

eh eh, josie more cun leh. holiday backup ok lar. there's another one, tracy i think...oso  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif

siyesli guys, read the 2 links i gif uol...
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yeah agree #kayuout
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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Sep 3 2013, 08:36 PM)
yeah too much insider leak these days as well

nonetheless it still embarrasses the club especially of such stature
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not just leaks, Moyes confirmed the Cesc bid himself for Christ sake sweat.gif sweat.gif

the decision making be it from the upper echelon or even the manager to a lesser extend in this windows are poor generally
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Sep 3 2013, 09:39 PM)
fuhhhh! tfl:dfr!

lazy wanna read. chat in the wasep group better la...
it's okay, the window has closed, no need to discuss further already, just hopeful that kayu can handle things better next time.
better talk about shares thing with andy yo!
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sino tahan from yesterday already, today finally pancut out. lololol.
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I'm sincerely finish everything, and I got your point. nod.gif

True. We must sell DDG to Barca the next time they come knock our door. nod.gif
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Interesting article on the Hererra case.

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“What a mess”. Those were the words quickly doing the rounds on Twitter last night when news trickled through that the deal for Ander Herrera was called off. Newly appointed Manchester United CEO Edward Woodward was blamed thousands of times for multiple things, but one word came up more than once: “incompetent”. It's hard not to agree with the accusations, but a question everyone wants answered is “what actually happened?”.

First of all, it's worth nothing that the “three wise men” spotted walking in and out of the LFP (Liga de Fútbol Profesional) headquarters were not impostors, but a group of Bilbao lawyers who had dealt with Athletic Bilbao (especially in the Javi Martinez transfer) before.

Other than talks of the deal breaking down over the release clause, it appears there was an obstacle that even Bayern Munich struggled to overcome when they attempted to sign Javi Martinez.

Lartaun de Arizmendi, a journalist for Cadena COPE (the radio station who first broke the news that Manchester United were interested in Ander Herrera), has revealed in a post on his personal blog that, irregardless of the reported clause, the Herrera deal was near impossible to complete and that Bayern Munich needed external help to force through the Javi Martinez transfer.

He says that after much reflection on the Javi Martinez case, Athletic Bilbao came to realise that the player depositing the cheque on Bayern Munich's behalf (even if Athletic were against the move) wasn't enough to make the deal 100% go through. Once they had discovered this detail, Athletic used it to their advantage and told Bayern Munich that for a unilateral deal like this one to go through, the club has to agree to receive the fee in their bank account.

If Bilbao refuse to receive the money, and there was no obligation for them to do so, the will of the paying club (Bayern Munich) and the player (Javi Martinez) counted for nothing. In order to force the deal to go through, Munich contacted the Financial Council in Bilbao to tell them that this offer was being refused. The Financial Council, who would benefit from this deal going through, pressured Athletic Bilbao in accepting the money by telling them that if they did not do so, they would be required to immediately pay all the debts they owed the Financial Council and would not receive anymore help from them in the future.

It is only after this happened that Athletic Bilbao accepted the offer for Javi Martinez and have the money placed in their bank account.

Returning to the Herrera deal, it appears that there was never any panic on Athletic Bilbao's side and it was reported many times that they were confident the deal would not go through. If what Lartaun de Arizmendi has written is true, Bilbao knew that Manchester United would never have the time to get the Financial Council on their side in time for a similar process to happen.

If Bilbao refused to accept the money in their bank account, this would explain why the three Laffer lawyers were turned away at the LFP headquarters yesterday evening.

Edward Woodward (or whoever was in charge of the deal) was not aware of the loophole exploited by Bayern Munich and why would they be? Athletic Bilbao will have clearly done their best to keep it a secret in order to hold on to their best players.

As we all know, Juventus had to wait an extra year to get Fernando Llorente on a free because they hit a stumbling block similar to the one Manchester United crashed into late last night. Again, if what Lartaun writes is correct (and logically, it seems to be), Juventus would not have known of the Javi Martinez loophole and Bilbao stubbornly refused to accept the money.

Lartaun writes at the bottom of his post: “This is what I have managed to find on the Ander Herrera/MUFC deal. Now, it is up to you to draw your own conclusions as appropriate”.

We will, Lartaun, we will. If what you say is true, perhaps Manchester United are not the only ones to blame for this deal falling through.
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Ed woodward need to play football manager more... Ik onw it is irrelevant but he doesn't know the market well enough to get the players... we could have hijack eriksen deal... but nooooo we let tottenham sign him for 11mil...
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I've never really fancied Eriksen , even when we were linked to him . Though we shall see how he performs in BPL .

For now , it's time for us to move and , regardless if it's woodward's fault or not , I just hope we can play good football and start winning again .
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QUOTE(SomeoneElse @ Sep 3 2013, 10:55 PM)
I've never really fancied Eriksen , even when we were linked to him . Though we shall see how he performs in BPL .

For now , it's time for us to move and , regardless if it's woodward's fault or not , I just hope we can play good football and start winning again .
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11mil for a 21 year old well known wonderkid in ajax.. already 50 times better than cleverley... seriously worth flipping a table... 11mil man..
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QUOTE(projectnew @ Sep 3 2013, 11:03 PM)
11mil for a 21 year old well known wonderkid in ajax.. already 50 times better than cleverley... seriously worth flipping a table... 11mil man..
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QUOTE(mingxhin @ Sep 3 2013, 10:08 PM)
Interesting article on the Hererra case.

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That is one seriously complicated transfer right there. Quite understandable from Bilbao's POV that they want to complicate things to prevent other clubs from snapping up their stars. Basically there are more than 2 parties are involved in this transfer snag.

Whatever it is, if Moyes is seriously interested in Herrera, he will come back for him and exploit the loophole. Complicated enough to make one confused. God save them.

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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Sep 3 2013, 11:38 PM)
That is one seriously complicated transfer right there. Quite understandable from Bilbao's POV that they want to complicate things to prevent other clubs from snapping up their stars. Basically there are more than 2 parties are involved in this transfer snag.

Whatever it is, if Moyes is seriously interested in Herrera, he will come back for him and exploit the loophole. Complicated enough to make one confused. God save them.
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sooo ... basically Bilbao wants to get money in hand first before the Financial Counsel get it. correct me if i'm wrong .. hmm.gif
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Manchester United have paid FC Zurich £700,000 for Switzerland Under-18 starlet Saidy Janko, who has been called a 'super talent'.

Read more at: http://www.clubcall.com/manchester-united/...gy-1627805.html
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QUOTE(benrahman @ Sep 4 2013, 12:45 AM)
Manchester United have paid FC Zurich £700,000 for Switzerland Under-18 starlet Saidy Janko, who has been called a 'super talent'.

Read more at: http://www.clubcall.com/manchester-united/...gy-1627805.html
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just read at manutd.com

actually MU didnt only sign fellani yesterday...young player for future....

but still #woodwardout

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lets hope arsenal take a good care of ozil. Next season we go take him to OT like v. persie muahahaha
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QUOTE(skystrike @ Sep 4 2013, 12:50 AM)
just read at manutd.com

actually MU didnt only sign fellani yesterday...young player for future....

but still #woodwardout
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2 unknown and 1 BPL established player for us this summer. Looking forward on how fast Varela & Janko (right back) snip into 1st eleven team. I can't stand watching Valencia playing right back. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(projectnew @ Sep 3 2013, 10:50 PM)
Ed woodward need to play football manager more... Ik onw it is irrelevant but he doesn't know the market well enough to get the players... we could have hijack eriksen deal... but nooooo we let tottenham sign him for 11mil...
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I think it's Moyes' call on who to buy. Ed Woodward just works out the transfer deal. Sure Eriksen has looked good but he's another player that predominantly plays in the hole where Rooney/Kagawa play. If we had bought Eriksen, "fans" would have started complaining that Moyes isn't allowing Januzaj to grow. There are so many things fans can complain about, you can't please everyone.

He's a wonderkid on FM doesn't mean he's a wonderkid in real life.
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QUOTE(konichiwawa @ Sep 4 2013, 06:54 AM)
I think it's Moyes' call on who to buy. Ed Woodward just works out the transfer deal. Sure Eriksen has looked good but he's another player that predominantly plays in the hole where Rooney/Kagawa play. If we had bought Eriksen, "fans" would have started complaining that Moyes isn't allowing Januzaj to grow. There are so many things fans can complain about, you can't please everyone.

He's a wonderkid on FM doesn't mean he's a wonderkid in real life.
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True, although he might be talented as well. I think he is a talent, but not sure if has progressed as well as years before when the big clubs are keeping tabs on him. If he is that talented, the big boys would have been all over him by now. Perhaps, he would prove all of us wrong still.

I think we should be more patient in terms of the AM position, where Rooney/Kagawa are pretty much occupying now. Janujaz I think is the biggest talent that could play in that role, and after pre-season, he looks the most skilful on the ball among the youngsters. Doesn't rely on speed or strength, but with tricks and speed of thought. Something some current players are lacking.

Have faith in DM. At least have faith in Wazza/Kagawa combo, soon!
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Did DM really go for all those players that papers said or agent/club/players bid themselves up for potential clubs????
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Sep 3 2013, 11:38 PM)
That is one seriously complicated transfer right there. Quite understandable from Bilbao's POV that they want to complicate things to prevent other clubs from snapping up their stars. Basically there are more than 2 parties are involved in this transfer snag.

Whatever it is, if Moyes is seriously interested in Herrera, he will come back for him and exploit the loophole. Complicated enough to make one confused. God save them.
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sooo ... basically Bilbao wants to get money in hand first before the Financial Counsel get it. correct me if i'm wrong .. hmm.gif
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you must understand that bilbao is a very traditional club and it dictates that their players MUST come from the basque region. that greatly depletes the number of talent which can be found and more importantly willing to play for or stay at the club

If i were bilbao, money will be secondary because you won't be discovering football talents every year in basque

bayern's trick was to twist the creditor's (bilbao financial council) arm instead of the debtor's (bilbao) to force the deal through
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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Sep 3 2013, 10:29 PM)
Supposed to put this one up last nite. but due to that bloody transfer window thingie & too busy fapping over those potential players joining. Hence the post now.

Flash back to weekend's north-west derby game. I dunno about u guys but we were simply overrun by their midfield. brazilian midfield + their captain + always-looked-blur-kid were pressuring our midfield duo all the time. We were stil playing our usual 442 whilst the home team were playing 451. Leaving their spanish + ex-Internazionale on the wing & the other 3 kept hassling our C16 + Clevz. C16 was unable to take his time and spray those delicious pass/cross that he intended. Hence the lost possession in the 1st half. But that 1st half performance is more than enough a testament for me that we bloody need a bulldog in the middle of the pitch to stand firm and kick opponents back to their closet and strike fear in them. Since early days, we had Keano, then came Hargo, and then Fletchinho at some point. I didn't put C16 in the list 'cos he simply not that kinda hard-tackling midfielder. Like my last long-post illustrated previously, he's likened to Pirlo, an all rounder that read the game well and make tackles when necessary. We've been crying for that steel in midfield for few years now. Fair enough, we make do with what we have in midfield as SAF chose to reinforce other areas of the field, which he did splendidly. 2nd half, home side is already started to protect the lead and not conceding. Seriously, with pariah centrebacks duo of them, we should be able to shackle them down with our constant wing play. But no, our wing were non-existant until Tony V came in. If you look at our midfeld that started that nite, Clev-C16-G11-Youngie. The latter two were non-existant until they got subbed. Offered no threat at any point of time. Waste of my time watching the team play. Wing play is always our forte. ManUtd without wing play is not ManUtd. So don't bloody change it. But sadly our wings were clipped that nite. Clipped by Glen-bloody-Johnson!! I personally never rated this guy at all. Their left back on the other hand...........Their 2 little wingers were so easily shackled if play with muscles. Just look at how Tony V shook off their beloved brazilian playmaker with ease (Welcome to BPL, beetches). There's a reason why Internazionale wanna offload him. Mark my word, he won't last long in his current club. Rmbr that "flying" Chilean winger that they once so proud lastime? He's currently plying his trade in Russian league now.

Anyway, we lost the game to ourselves. Not to the home side. Players failed to turn up when it matter the most. G11 has been starting for 3 games in a row. I have a jersey with his NNs on. But I think enough is enough. Player at his age should be a bit part player, not starting high-tension game like this. Bring experience to the young 'uns u say? How dafuq are the young 'uns gonna gain experience if you keep starting those old fags?!?! I foresee the same to Rio next season onwards. On the question where Jonesy should play. This guy is our new utility player, no doubt. But he impressed me during his Rovers' days when he was playing centre back and charging like a bulldog for every single ball as if his life depends on it. I'm not sure why SAF wanted him to play different position ie. DM/MC/RB but his true, natural position is where Rio + VIda is playing now: Centre-bloody-Back. Read a few articles, realised that my beloved DDG had a quiet nite aside from that fortuitous goal. But safe hands when called upon, which was rare from the home side.

Then again, what's done is done. We lost the game. 3pts gone. Like Vida said, it's stil early days. No need to panic yet. They might win the battle, but we will win the war!

Back to last nite's tranfer dateline. I came across a post in redcafe that you lotsa can read it HERE. What the poster said is rite. We've got bloody 2months to do all the stuff. But no, they decided to leave it til the end to do it. Seriously, u kidding me?! Kayu flew back to UK when the squad was in Australia tour in the middle of July. WIth the level of technologies nowadays, is it really necessary to fly back that urgent?! Seriously?! I kenot brain wtf was he doing since then.

Then, came along those ridiculous bids. £25m opening bid for Cesc. £12m for Baines. Less than £30m for the Everton duo, then increased to £35m for both. I'm not sure what weed are they smoking but these kinda bids are bound to get rejected without question. Not forgetting that we went public that we wanted to sign Cesc. I can't rmbr when was the lastime during SAF era that we publicly came out do that kinda announcement before the deal is completed. Heck, we always get surprises. We were linked with Thiago, then to Cesc, then to Cabaye, then outta nowhere emerged Herrera. We've got 2 months since June, 2-bloody-months to get all these settled but this Kayu chose to clock-up his airmiles for no goddamn reason. In the end, we only got what we've crying along, a steel, a threat in the air, an afro in the mould of Fellaini. Which brings me to another topic, DM has been a Toffee for the past decade me thinks. He knows well enough the contract that he negotiated with Fellaini. There's a release clause existed in afro's contract which expired in end-of-July. What was Kayu doing then?! No one knows if DM indeed had a gentleman agreement with Bill Kenwright that he can't use that clause. However the truth is Bill decided to screw DM over and we ended up paid few millions quid extra for afro's service. Some people pointed out that afro being 1st/2nd/panic buy. If you do not work in corporate world before, u don't know the trick at all. So read my previous redcafe link punya post. Until then, stfu.

As for Herrera, well this got me exciting outta nowhere. Those who knows me I'm a FM gamer. I played this guy before in one of my previous games and Herrera is like a combo of afro + C16, an all-rounder of a midfield. Can tackle + creative but physically abit sweat.gif I'm surprised to see his name suddenly popped outta nowhere. Could this be DM's new scout team's recommendation? If true, I think we can expect more already. Then again, Herrera was one of the star performer during our defeat to Bilbao in Europa League few seasons back. He has a release clause of £30.75m/36m euros. What did our Kayu do? He bidded 30m euros. But then again, this is still unconfirmed as apparently some "impostors" were in the mix and wanna get a cut outta the Herrera deal and pretended to be United officials. You can get more details in HERE. Poor kid. he reportedly willing to reduce his wage to join us, only to be screwed over by these buncha money-psychos. If we ever were to go back to him again during winter transfer, I doubt he will join us, again.

If Herrera deal were to go through, I can foresee both afro + Herrera will be our main midfield duo that'll boss BPL for a foreseeable future. As much potential as Clev has is concern, it'll depend how his development goes. Don't forget, Carrick aint young, we need someone to replace him, and that someone will not be Clev 'cos both of 'em play differently. That being said, with the addition of afro, i hope we can play that 4411 that once made DM's Everton so successful lastime around. Wing play + SS/AMC or whateva dahell uol wanna call that position + lone striker.

With that being said, that concludes my long post is long. Mau watch aeroplane drama riao.

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Manchester United

In: Marouane Fellaini, Guillermo Varela

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It took until the eleventh hour, but United finally secured Marouane Fellaini.
This is one we're going to hear a lot more about, which effectively sums it all up. Three key facts sum up what was essentially one of the most important summers in the club's entire history after the retirement of Sir Alex Ferguson. First of all, United badly wanted a marquee name to alter the tone after that seismic event; they got none. Secondly, Moyes was desperate for at least two midfielders to improve an area he was increasingly concerned about; he got one. Finally, even in order to get Fellaini, United had to overpay after a summer of trying to underpay. That further reflects the apparent absence of any kind of clear plan, which also saw the club sway from not just different target to different target, but even different styles of targets. After all that, keeping Wayne Rooney seems even more important and may end up proving their best piece of business. The United team is ultimately still competitive and Fellaini fits into what Moyes wants while also filling a gap. United, though, wanted to do more than fill a gap. They wanted to make a statement and a response. Instead, their image has been damaged and questions about their direction raised. It has been a PR disaster, and one that may have an on-pitch effect.

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in the end (of transfer window), im happy with the conclusion. we bought Fellaini, Zaha and Varela. rooney and Nani are likely to stay.

but disappointing with how we conducted it. Thiago, Fabregas, Modric etc dont want to come to OT, its fine. we cant throw money to them like City.

but ironically we wasting 4-5 mil GBP and wait until dying minutes to seal Fellaini move. Herrera bid collapsed. and what with Contrao deal? Evra and Fabio must be feeling they are not in DM main plan.

thats disgraceful and shameful. i hope we learn from that mistakes.

move on, we have a better team than before albeit our rivals seem strengthening very much. cant wait for the next games..
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Anyway, Woodward really Fail Tahap Gaban, when it comes to players transfer. Why never buy Felliani at release clause? Why bid for Baines when we already have Evra? Why still want to bid for Cesc 3 times when Barca dont have the intention to sell him? Dont get me started with Thiago.

Herrera was the player that destroyed Utd during the Bilbao-Utd match few years back. How and why on earth Woodward still managed to screw that one up?
Another unsuccessful bid for Khedira and Ozil? The bid for Coentrao was unexpected. It would have been a major swoop for Utd if they managed to get Coentrao.

Yeah, give another chance to Woodward. He's like a 10year old trying to get a date with a smoking hot 24 year old.

At least now got Felliani, the Alleycat from the Mediterranean coast.


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don thk any1 here who watch pl regularly is that insane complaining about fellaini joining, its how the transfers have been handled...yeah we got what we need, but at what cost? and could we have gotten more?

many united fans are not pleased and they hav the right to be..i don rmb recent 10 years having such insane transfer deadline day with 2 failed deals and a deal that got through which should have been sorted out way earlier
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Basically this. United have never had to scramble around on deadline day. The only notable occasion was for Berbatov but that was down to Levy and United had to fend off City as well. Woodward has had the entire summer to bid for players so there is really no excuse. United should get someone who knows football negotiations and the market better to handle this area and let Woodward focus on getting endorsements and sponsorships.

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He's the chief executive and not a bloody intern. Apparently he was appointed by the Glazers so there's not much chance of him being sacked as long as he is able bring in money for the club.

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Woodward might be 'the man' when it comes to squeezing every penny out of sponsors during his previous position and perhaps he is abit inexperience at this level but i don't think he is really that bad, there could be other factors which swayed back and forth.

Firstly, Moyes could have delayed any action because he wanted to have a feel of the team before making a big and thought the team was solid enough.

Thiago, Cesc, VDV, etc. are quite subjective as they're mostly media speculation.
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I agree with this ghali guy from redcafe...act like a fan...a classy one plsss...

After the long post it really only comes down to this.

Fans in 'we support the club so therefore we think we know everything that goes on and think we control it' shocker. Bottom line even under your point is that we know less than f*** all about what happens and we've gone a bit to far in trying to vicariously live our lives AS the club. Invested personal emotions in what is literally watching 22 blokes kick a ball around a paddock a couple of days a week.

Fans need to disconnect, stop over-analyzing every little minute detail and revitalize why they LOVE the club. Not why they aren't doing what they think the club should be doing.

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hello all, first time posting here. been a MU fan since Steve Bruce's time (which means I'm not young).

To be honest, MU never have such last min dealings during SAF time (as far as I can remember). And this is also the first time MU is being so open about their targets.

But to be fair to Moyes, it's a tough job and the glory-chasing fans are not making it any easier. Papers and journalists around the world are saying MU is becoming a laughing stock........even our own fans are laughing at the club =_=

Still, doesnt deny the fact that Moyes joined MU 1 month later, with a brand new chief executive who is inexperienced with transfers. And i believe Moyes still trying to understand the team more...thats why he has been fielding SAF's team so far and donno exactly what player he needs. He knows he needs midfielders but ...that didn't work out. Moyes' fault? I believe more like the chief exec's. ANyway, i do foresee some changes soon esp after the transfer window closure and Liverpool's defeat.

And i do look fwd to see Fellaini in action. He's one player i really worry whenever we play Everton. good to have him on our side biggrin.gif

Also hoping Kagawa and the youngsters like Lingard, can get more playing time.

I seriously doubt we can win the league this year. smile.gif i only hope Moyes will give more chance to the young blood, and also create his own team, instead of reusing SAF's team.
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Is it ok to say that fellaini was actually our last choice before we actually wanted to sign him? The delay @ missed release clause deal was because we are trying to find a better midfielder before we resorted to fellaini? Tried thiago kena hijack by that pep guy, fabregas at first kept silent then out of nowhere die2 also say i want to stay at barca.. Then there khedira dunno how true is that.. End up when all choices on the list failed, finally only went for the last option fellaini.. Thats why all the powell / mc carthy deal also was done last minute

Agree this season transfer dealing was chaotic as hell but nvmla see what happens on our next transfer window..

Just i ask that lion gigga not to be played week in week out.. Vs liv also can see >60 min the uncle aready pancit..

My dream team now

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Rafael ferdy vidic evra

Fellaini carrick

Valencia rooney/clev/ando kagawa/nani/welbz

Rvp/chic


And ffs pls let kagawa play once he is fit

Looking at our team.. We really have many options to throughout our team, to bring one in have to let some go first which we have not been doing so

Hope to see more of zaha and januzaj as well


Our next game fellaini will assist with his head
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hello all, first time posting here. been a MU fan since Steve Bruce's time (which means I'm not young).

To be honest, MU never have such last min dealings during SAF time (as far as I can remember). And this is also the first time MU is being so open about their targets.

But to be fair to Moyes, it's a tough job and the glory-chasing fans are not making it any easier. Papers and journalists around the world are saying MU is becoming a laughing stock........even our own fans are laughing at the club =_=

Still, doesnt deny the fact that Moyes joined MU 1 month later, with a brand new chief executive who is inexperienced with transfers. And i believe Moyes still trying to understand the team more...thats why he has been fielding SAF's team so far and donno exactly what player he needs. He knows he needs midfielders but ...that didn't work out. Moyes' fault? I believe more like the chief exec's. ANyway, i do foresee some changes soon esp after the transfer window closure and Liverpool's defeat.

And i do look fwd to see Fellaini in action. He's one player i really worry whenever we play Everton. good to have him on our side biggrin.gif

Also hoping Kagawa and the youngsters like Lingard, can get more playing time.

I seriously doubt we can win the league this year. smile.gif i only hope Moyes will give more chance to the young blood, and also create his own team, instead of reusing SAF's team.
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dont mind last minute as long as it was handled in an appropriate way. d low-balling was backfired & end up we had to pay more than d release clause is kinda embarrassing. neway, damage was done so hopefully lesson well learned by d "procurement" team. yawn.gif
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dont mind last minute as long as it was handled in an appropriate way. d low-balling was backfired & end up we had to pay more than d release clause is kinda embarrassing. neway, damage was done so hopefully lesson well learned by d "procurement" team.  yawn.gif
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if you announced, that club might jack up the price AND/OR attract the attention of other clubs

the nego team not yet learn how to put in a clause that if the story is leaked from the selling club, the price will have to go down 10% laugh.gif
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you must understand that bilbao is a very traditional club and it dictates that their players MUST come from the basque region. that greatly depletes the number of talent which can be found and more importantly willing to play for or stay at the club

If i were bilbao, money will be secondary because you won't be discovering football talents every year in basque

bayern's trick was to twist the creditor's (bilbao financial council) arm instead of the debtor's (bilbao) to force the deal through
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hello all, first time posting here. been a MU fan since Steve Bruce's time (which means I'm not young).

To be honest, MU never have such last min dealings during SAF time (as far as I can remember). And this is also the first time MU is being so open about their targets.

But to be fair to Moyes, it's a tough job and the glory-chasing fans are not making it any easier. Papers and journalists around the world are saying MU is becoming a laughing stock........even our own fans are laughing at the club =_=

Still, doesnt deny the fact that Moyes joined MU 1 month later, with a brand new chief executive who is inexperienced with transfers. And i believe Moyes still trying to understand the team more...thats why he has been fielding SAF's team so far and donno exactly what player he needs. He knows he needs midfielders but ...that didn't work out. Moyes' fault? I believe more like the chief exec's. ANyway, i do foresee some changes soon esp after the transfer window closure and Liverpool's defeat.

And i do look fwd to see Fellaini in action. He's one player i really worry whenever we play Everton. good to have him on our side biggrin.gif

Also hoping Kagawa and the youngsters like Lingard, can get more playing time.

I seriously doubt we can win the league this year. smile.gif i only hope Moyes will give more chance to the young blood, and also create his own team, instead of reusing SAF's team.
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I just want champ league qualification... too many stronk team this year..
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By submitting a transfer request shortly before 8pm, Fellaini ensured Everton would not be forced to pay the player £4 million in loyalty bonuses, enabling the two clubs to agree a deal worth £27.5 million to the selling club.

It also meant United would pay the £23.5 million figure regarded by Moyes as the limit of his valuation of a player he signed for Everton for £15 million from Standard Liège in 2008.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/...m-collapse.html


so united paid 23.5m instead of reported 27.5m ? hmm.gif
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Well at least with Fellaini we have more target man for set pieces taken by RvP.
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and funny la, we're all Manchester United fans, donno why i can feel the hostility somehow.
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so united paid 23.5m instead of reported 27.5m ?  hmm.gif
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Maybe thats the reason why the deal was held back as far as it could? Fellaini wanted to move and get the 4 mil without submitting the request? Instead United pay 23 to EFC and 4 mil to Afro? :-P
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Maybe thats the reason why the deal was held back as far as it could? Fellaini wanted to move and get the 4 mil without submitting the request? Instead United pay 23 to EFC and 4 mil to Afro? :-P
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so united paid 23.5m instead of reported 27.5m ?  hmm.gif
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1) Gives an overall different perspective to things. Moyes has more decision making in the process (even into calling off deals because of the lack of perceived value), and the club stood firm over not overpaying for Fellaini.
2) Big props to Fellaini, willing to waive that money to secure the move! Happy to see he wanted it that much! Honestly, he comes out of this looking pretty decent, didn't sulk or go on strike to secure the move and even forsook the money to get it done. Respect! rclxms.gif

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If the info in that article is all true, then
1) Gives an overall different perspective to things. Moyes has more decision making in the process (even into calling off deals because of the lack of perceived value), and  the club stood firm over not overpaying for Fellaini.
2) Big props to Fellaini, willing to waive that money to secure the move! Happy to see he wanted it that much! Honestly, he comes out of this looking pretty decent, didn't sulk or go on strike to secure the move and even forsook the money to get it done. Respect! rclxms.gif
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Yep, if we ignore the transfer window drama and details, then we basically added the type of CM which we have been wanting for years (after Hargreaves, Anderson, and Fletcher consecutively struggled with injury/health issues)!

Quite a relief, to be frank. Now with Vidic, Fellaini, and Rooney we actually have a muscular spine for the team. Only thing to be sorted now is the creativity/penetration from the middle (oh please let Kagawa shine) and getting our wingers back to their flying form of the past
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Yep, if we ignore the transfer window drama and details, then we basically added the type of CM which we have been wanting for years (after Hargreaves, Anderson, and Fletcher consecutively struggled with injury/health issues)!

Quite a relief, to be frank. Now with Vidic, Fellaini, and Rooney we actually have a muscular spine for the team. Only thing to be sorted now is the creativity/penetration from the middle (oh please let Kagawa shine) and getting our wingers back to their flying form of the past
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Since the 4-4 draw match with Everton 2 season ago, I always wondered if Fellaini would be good addition to United. Now he is in, I hope he can really strengthen our midfield.


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Woodward is a farking idiot - his incompetency in the transfer saga made MU a laughing stock to the entire world. If Gill was still there, we would have got 3 players instead of only Fellaini by the deadline (the 2 other players would happen to be Modric/Ozil and Herrera).
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ozil is a class player, but he's an attacking midfielder right? something like a supporting striker, which means similar role wif kagawa, welbeck and rooney?

if yes, then i seriously dont think we need him.

but yes, i agree with woodward being a bit slow. idiot? not sure except for the Herrera case...which is kinda stupid. or maybe the deals are REALLY more complicated and MU doesnt want to overpay the fee?

we never know. one thing for sure, he is here to stay (glazers' man). so lets see how he fares in January
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Utd didn't try hard enough to get Ozil/Modric/Herrera.

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QUOTE(daydreaming @ Sep 4 2013, 03:15 PM)
ozil is a class player, but he's an attacking midfielder right? something like a supporting striker, which means similar role wif kagawa, welbeck and rooney?

if yes, then i seriously dont think we need him.

but yes, i agree with woodward being a bit slow. idiot? not sure except for the Herrera case...which is kinda stupid. or maybe the deals are REALLY more complicated and MU doesnt want to overpay the fee?

we never know. one thing for sure, he is here to stay (glazers' man). so lets see how he fares in January
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For Ozil, we can get him - I mean, Welback ain't a SS (really, Moyes?), Rooney wants to be beside RVP in front, and Kagawa has fitness issues (and yeah, he can play at wing too). Ozil will definitely be a good addition to the squad.

Herrera's case can be resolved by the deadline window - if MU has decided to trigger the release clause like 1 week before that. Ample time to finalize everything. But Woodward instead decides to "play poker" by starting the bid at a low price.... and lost terribly in the end.

I hope in the next 4 months, he better brush up the negotiation and transfer skills - otherwise, please resign and let someone more competent to take over!
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Sep 4 2013, 03:34 PM)
For Ozil, we can get him - I mean, Welback ain't a SS (really, Moyes?), Rooney wants to be beside RVP in front, and Kagawa has fitness issues (and yeah, he can play at wing too). Ozil will definitely be a good addition to the squad.

Herrera's case can be resolved by the deadline window - if MU has decided to trigger the release clause like 1 week before that. Ample time to finalize everything. But Woodward instead decides to "play poker" by starting the bid at a low price.... and lost terribly in the end.

I hope in the next 4 months, he better brush up the negotiation and transfer skills - otherwise, please resign and let someone more competent to take over!
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hmm think even 1week is sufficient, remember Bayern spent a month to conclude Martinez deal doh.gif
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Sep 4 2013, 03:34 PM)
For Ozil, we can get him - I mean, Welback ain't a SS (really, Moyes?), Rooney wants to be beside RVP in front, and Kagawa has fitness issues (and yeah, he can play at wing too). Ozil will definitely be a good addition to the squad.

Herrera's case can be resolved by the deadline window - if MU has decided to trigger the release clause like 1 week before that. Ample time to finalize everything. But Woodward instead decides to "play poker" by starting the bid at a low price.... and lost terribly in the end.

I hope in the next 4 months, he better brush up the negotiation and transfer skills - otherwise, please resign and let someone more competent to take over!
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i think it'll be very difficult for Woodward to go. also, he just screwed up once tongue.gif maybe can give 2nd chance. LOL.

So with Ozil, we gonna go for 4-3-3? i would think a central midfielder is more important, thus the signing of Fellaini. And if we were to go for Ozil, which cost more than 40 mill pound, we cannot go for other players.

the poker game is a big failure. but having said that, we wont know the complexity of the Spanish tax. maybe it'll take 1 month to trigger the clause and settle everything? Bayern didnt have it the easy way with Martinez.
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hmm think even 1week is sufficient, remember Bayern spent a month to conclude Martinez deal  doh.gif
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You might be right - it could even take a month. But remember MU only showed interest a week before the deadline. If that's the case, they should have IMMEDIATELY TRIGGER the release clause and start working on the tax problem. Even if it collapses in the end, MU will still keep their reputation.... in this case though, they only triggered it with HOURS to go in the transfer window.....
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i think it'll be very difficult for Woodward to go. also, he just screwed up once tongue.gif maybe can give 2nd chance. LOL.

So with Ozil, we gonna go for 4-3-3? i would think a central midfielder is more important, thus the signing of Fellaini. And if we were to go for Ozil, which cost more than 40 mill pound, we cannot go for other players.

the poker game is a big failure. but having said that, we wont know the complexity of the Spanish tax. maybe it'll take 1 month to trigger the clause and settle everything? Bayern didnt have it the easy way with Martinez.
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Come to think about it - we have Carrick, right? And I personally don't believe that MU don't have any more cash after buying Ozil.
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Come to think about it - we have Carrick, right? And I personally don't believe that MU don't have any more cash after buying Ozil.
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i just think ozil is not worth 42 mill pound. maybe 35-40. but not more than that. he's still unproven in the premier league. and MU hardly spend so much on someone who has yet to prove himself in the league (minus veron)
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QUOTE(daydreaming @ Sep 4 2013, 04:17 PM)
i just think ozil is not worth 42 mill pound. maybe 35-40. but not more than that. he's still unproven in the premier league. and MU hardly spend so much on someone who has yet to prove himself in the league (minus veron)
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It's a fair price considering he's a better player than Bale who went for more than double that amount and he has already proven himself in the CL and with Germany as well. United have to accept that player prices are now inflated thanks to all the sugar daddy clubs. The alternative is to look for hidden gems like what Arsenal were doing but even they have realised that they have to spend big now.
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Robin van Persie and David Moyes hit skids

DAVID MOYES is facing a battle to win over Manchester United star Robin van Persie.


Starsport can reveal the United striker has yet to be convinced by new Old Trafford boss Moyes, who replaced Sir Alex Ferguson in the summer.

The Dutchman has told pals he is missing Fergie, who was key in persuading him to quit Arsenal for Old Trafford a year ago in a £25m deal.

It is understood Van Persie also has misgivings about some of Moyes' training methods.

Former Everton boss Moyes now has his work cut out to convince Van Persie he is the right man for the United hotseat.

Despite starting the season brightly, with two goals in the champions' first two games, the 30-year-old appeared out of sorts in the goalless draw with Chelsea and 1-0 defeat at Liverpool.

Van Persie cut a frustrated figure at Anfield on Sunday and looked close to losing his cool several times.

A friend of Van Persie - who has been the Premier League's top scorer for the last two seasons - said: "Robin isn't happy and when that's the case he can't hide it on the pitch.

"When he's frustrated he is capable of doing something silly, and you could see that against Liverpool.

"He feels it isn't the same with the new manager as he misses working with Fergie, who he really loved playing under. Some of Moyes' training methods are not to his liking either."

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/...Moyes-hit-skids
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QUOTE(daydreaming @ Sep 4 2013, 04:17 PM)
i just think ozil is not worth 42 mill pound. maybe 35-40. but not more than that. he's still unproven in the premier league. and MU hardly spend so much on someone who has yet to prove himself in the league (minus veron)
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Van Persie cut a frustrated figure at Anfield on Sunday and looked close to losing his cool several times.

A friend of Van Persie - who has been the Premier League's top scorer for the last two seasons - said: "Robin isn't happy and when that's the case he can't hide it on the pitch.

"When he's frustrated he is capable of doing something silly, and you could see that against Liverpool.
TBH, most of the players lost their cool during the Liverpool match
It seemed like Utd players have no idea what to do with the ball when they won it in the middle of the park
Rooney's absence was very evident
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Fellaini paid way to United:
Marouane Fellaini took a £4million hit to complete his dream move to Manchester United from Everton on transfer deadline day.

As deadline day ticked towards its conclusion there was no sign of an end to the impasse that had United sticking to a maximum £23.5million transfer fee in line with the escape clause in Fellaini's contract that lapsed at the end of July.

And with Everton chairman Bill Kenwright holding firm on his demand for £27.5million, the Belgian took matters into his own hands.

Fellaini offered to waive a £4million loyalty bonus, which meant United did not have to pay any additional transfer fee and Everton got the overall amount they were demanding.

The move underlines how badly Fellaini wanted to make the switch to Old Trafford, which also included being driven to Everton's Finch Farm training complex on Monday evening to hand in a formal transfer request.

It should at least leave United fans in no doubt where Fellaini's heart lays, even if it was largely a transfer window of frustration for Red Devils supporters.


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Another article to support the previous post. He might NOT be the marquee signing that most fans wanted, but if anything, I would rather have a player that really

wanted to play for United than anybody else.

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transfer story over now start to create new one yawn.gif
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actually RVP do tend to made silly actions when frustrated, he once elbowed Stoke GK right after the GK pick up the ball due to frustrated at Stoke strong challenge tactics.
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i just think ozil is not worth 42 mill pound. maybe 35-40. but not more than that. he's still unproven in the premier league. and MU hardly spend so much on someone who has yet to prove himself in the league (minus veron)
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nah, dont be sourgrape. United bid Herrera for 30 mil Euro. he's far more unproven than Ozil. at least Ozil proven in bigger stage (CL /International). IMO Ozil simply the best no10 in the world, if u discount Messi.

and dont forget we bid Hazard and Lucas, both around 30mil GBP each. dont tell these arent United hardly spend 'so much'.. we were willing, but they snubbed us/the transfer not materialize.

his 42mil GBP are about right. real not desperate to sell, Arsenal desperate for star signing.

i love Ozil here. but it'll create a new problem to rooney and Kagawa.

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Marouane Fellaini took a £4million hit to complete his dream move to Manchester United from Everton on transfer deadline day.

As deadline day ticked towards its conclusion there was no sign of an end to the impasse that had United sticking to a maximum £23.5million transfer fee in line with the escape clause in Fellaini's contract that lapsed at the end of July.

And with Everton chairman Bill Kenwright holding firm on his demand for £27.5million, the Belgian took matters into his own hands.

Fellaini offered to waive a £4million loyalty bonus, which meant United did not have to pay any additional transfer fee and Everton got the overall amount they were demanding.

The move underlines how badly Fellaini wanted to make the switch to Old Trafford, which also included being driven to Everton's Finch Farm training complex on Monday evening to hand in a formal transfer request.

It should at least leave United fans in no doubt where Fellaini's heart lays, even if it was largely a transfer window of frustration for Red Devils supporters.


Oyster Sauce

Another article to support the previous post. He might NOT be the marquee signing that most fans wanted, but if anything, I would rather have a player that really

wanted to play for United than anybody else.
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now i totally get it.. so it mean fellaini gv the 4mil loyalty bonus he entitled to for the amount everton asking at 27.5mil

damn thts like paying himself for himself notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(daydreaming @ Sep 4 2013, 04:17 PM)
i just think ozil is not worth 42 mill pound. maybe 35-40. but not more than that. he's still unproven in the premier league. and MU hardly spend so much on someone who has yet to prove himself in the league (minus veron)
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ozil price doesnt just represent wht he can offer in the pitch but outside too.. he is big star player.. probably only 2nd to ronaldo there. well known and popular wt lots of commercial value.. for me wt the current inflated market 40-50mil is a fair price for him. for arsenal to get him at 42.5mil at last day of transfer is quite a coup.

but then again dont think united are interested in him and current situation just doesnt suit as we got rooney and kagawa already.

if anyone should be pissed and dissapointed i think is spurs.. they make it possible for their london rival to get ozil..
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now tht we got fellaini theres part of me glad united fail to bring him.. 30mil seem like bit too much for player like his statue. mana mau letak cleverley oso
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ozil was offered to united and ronaldo was expected to be in united next yr.... imagine those 2 with united
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now tht we got fellaini theres part of me glad united fail to bring him.. 30mil seem like bit too much for player like his statue. mana mau letak cleverley oso
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yup, its for his potential, every transfer will carry risks, even those so called "premier league proven" purchases, but oh well, our squad is still decent enough, i am hoping we will at least challenge for the title this year, get at least top 3, qualified for UCL knockout stage, and have a decent run in both domestic cups, that's all, anything better will be an icing on the cake for me smile.gif
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Everton have denied reports waived bonuses accounted for £4m of Marouane Fellaini's transfer fee to Manchester United.

As the dust settled on United's last-minute move for the Belgium midfielder, several newspapers claimed it took Fellaini's intervention to get the deal over the line.

The reports suggested his transfer request saved Everton £4m in bonuses, allowing them to accept an offer of £23.5m from United in line with an expired buy-out clause in Fellaini's contract.

But Everton's director of communications Alan Myers has shot down those suggestions, insisting the £27.5m for Fellaini is coming solely from the old Trafford vaults.

Myers wrote on his Twitter page: "For those asking: No Felli did NOT pay £4m of the transfer fee! The buying club will pay £27.5m."

The fee for Fellaini is understood to be £26.5m up front with a further £1m in add-ons, some of which Everton forked out on deadline-day to sign James McCarthy and bring in Gareth Barry and Romelu Lukaku on loan.

Lukaku rejected other offers to join Everton, where he will link up with fellow Belgium international Kevin Mirallas.

"I've known Kevin Mirallas since I was 14, and that should help," Lukaku told the club website. "We talked about the move and I am looking forward to playing.

"Roberto Martinez called me for 30 minutes and explained me what he expects from me. I decided that Everton was the best choice. They are a more prominent club than West Brom where I had a good time."


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QUOTE(daydreaming @ Sep 4 2013, 04:17 PM)
i just think ozil is not worth 42 mill pound. maybe 35-40. but not more than that. he's still unproven in the premier league. and MU hardly spend so much on someone who has yet to prove himself in the league (minus veron)
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To say ozil is not proven in the league is just ignorant. He is regular in the world cup.. he is basically world class..why real madrid decided to buy him is already a good reason he is good enough for the league.. Ozil was offered to united .. If united is smart enough.. We could negotiate a reduced price.. Reports says he prefered a move to united. Letting go a player with his quality is just plain dumb.. Atm we really need a player that actually can pass front and gives those killer passes to rooney and van persie..ozil is a specialist in that.. We cannot say like oh he is an attacking midfielder we dont need him.. Ozil can play anywhere in the midfield if you watched him play in real. Plus we rely too much on rooney and van persie.. Ozil will reduced that burden.. Cleveley welbz young cant provide that assurance.. We lost a great chance to sign one of the world's best killer passer.. Now we are stucked with cleverley.. Flip table nao!!!!
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no, the valuation of players had to change, 40m i think is the new 35m for today's market, and if Fellaini is worth almost 30 million, why Ozil isn't worth 40 million?

not to disregard Fellaini's ability though, just saying
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honestly i duno la how dis proven in the league thing can be made so big deal

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To say ozil is not proven in the league is just ignorant. He is regular in the world cup.. he is basically world class..why real madrid decided to buy him is already a good reason he is good enough for the league.. Ozil was offered to united .. If united is smart enough.. We could negotiate a reduced price.. Reports says he prefered a move to united. Letting go a player with his quality is just plain dumb.. Atm we really need a player that actually can pass front and gives those killer passes to rooney and van persie..ozil is a specialist in that.. We cannot say like oh he is an attacking midfielder we dont need him.. Ozil can play anywhere in the midfield if you watched him play in real. Plus we rely too much on rooney and van persie.. Ozil will reduced that burden.. Cleveley welbz young cant provide that assurance.. We lost a great chance to sign one of the world's best killer passer.. Now we are stucked with cleverley.. Flip table nao!!!!
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easy brah.....ozil offer to united since 2010 (after world cup) united refuse that time.. at price 12m pound....
so even right now, united still refuse? why? i don't know...but on the bright side fellaini not bad thou cam play DM/AM can partner with carrick..
while ozil more 10 role(deep/ behind striker)we had rooney/ kagawa(now both injured cry.gif ) on that...

p/s : further more, please give chance to lingard and januzaj,both look promising with pass

btw just my 2 cent
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Bilbao newspaper El Correo have this morning compared Manchester United's pursuit of Ander Herrera to a Benny Hill sketch. They question whether such a scenario would have happened under Sir Alex Ferguson and call the club's approach 'sloppy' and 'irresponsible'. There are no punches being pulled in Bilbao.

It's claimed that Manchester United have come out of this looking so bad that it will actually help Ander Herrera be re-accepted by fans of Athletic Club Bilbao. Such is the amazement at how Manchester United have behaved - bear in mind this is Bilbao leaned reporting - Herrera is being seen as a victim by many, rather than someone who tried his best to desert the club. His team mates are rallying around him and supporters haven't launched a hate campaign, there's been no insulting graffiti like there was with Llorente and it looks like a Bilbao closure of ranks with a big finger pointing toward Manchester.

The newspaper again says that the problem was purely down to Manchester United not offering enough money for the player and not wanting to meet his release clause, something we covered yesterday. Manchester United apparently contacted Herrera in mid August, so the whole thing isn't as last minute as it perhaps seems. However, even a couple of weeks was probably too short an amount of time to get Athletic to play ball, and that's assuming Manchester United aren't totally at fault.

El Correo says that the new people dealing with transfers at Manchester United didn't have the relevant experience and expected Athletic would reduce their demands at the death. They insist that Laffer (the law firm called all kinds of names since) were acting on behalf of Manchester United, and they back that up with quotes from an unnamed source at the Spanish league.

The newspaper also claim they spoke to a source at Laffer who claimed they'd received an apology from Manchester United yesterday. We spoke to the law firm on Tuesday and it was clear they were frustrated with the situation but they are unlikely to be critical of a football club (Whether that be Manchester United or Athletic), they get a lot of business from them.

Yesterday our own Tom Coast covered an alternative report from Spain that the transfer fell down mainly due to Athletic and their reluctance to play ball. The Spanish journalist who claimed that is now trying to backtrack and fall in-line with what others in the country are reporting, which makes the situation even more complicated.

It's safe to say that everyone has a chunk of blame here with the probable exception of Laffer, and it's the legal firm who were mocked the most in the aftermath.


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They had to pay the €36m clause and, then, seduce me more than Athletic. I never saw myself elsewhere.

The lawyers that were at the LFP did not represent me. I didn't even know who they were.

At no moment did either I or my agent reach an agreement with United.


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ok someone messed it up somewhere.
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wow, so much conflicting info going around this transfer window!

ozil would have been a fantastic signing, but then we haven't even utilized kagawa properly yet! adding another player who basically plays the same role? for 42million pounds? not to mention the weekly wages?

his sheer quality is tempting, but very mixed feelings due to the finances and squad as it is. much better to try and extract maximum value from kagawa!

honestly, now that we have fellaini my biggest wish is not a blockbuster / marquee signing. it's to get the most out of the players we have and to get the youngsters integrated and performing. players like kagawa, anderson, nani, young, valencia have all shown in the past they can do good things when on form. the main challenge is getting them back to their personal peak performance levels again! we already have a pretty deep squad, so getting the best performance and avoiding injuries should be first priority. then in january or next summer, DM can have another crack at shaping the team as he sees fit.

looking at how pogba is doing well for juventus, it would be nice if one of our youth/younger players could do the same in our team.

cleverley started off really well when he first broke into the team, but his style of play (quick movement and passing) shines more when we are playing at our highest speed, or when he is playing just behind the strikers, which is not always the case. when the game slows down or he plays a deeper CM role, he doesn't seem to shine as much.
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What really happened to Man Utd on deadline day…

Manchester United fans needed a good transfer window. The league may have been won with an 11-point gap, but they were nervy after the departures of Sir Alex Ferguson and David Gill.

United have performed well in the transfer market in the last decade. Sure, there have been the Djemba-Djembas and Bebes, but they’ve been outweighed by well-scouted emerging talents, as well as the coup of Van Persie’s acquisition.

Financially, United were in a strong position this summer. Revenues, driven by burgeoning television incomce and sponsorship deals, are at an all-time high. The huge debts attached to the club in the 2005 takeover are receding.

United had money to spend, but spending it proved more difficult. Cesc Fabregas was the number one target and United chased him for over a month. It didn’t happen. Other players were offered to United such as Mesut Ozil. United saw his mandate on August 16. The combination of high wages, a £40 million transfer fee and excessive demands from the agent meant United said no.

United felt that they could always sign Marouane Fellaini and Leighton Baines. They got one at the last minute. But they also turned back to Spain last week, specifically Ander Herrera, Athletic Bilbao’s 24-year-old midfielder who usually plays behind the forward in the Basques’ 4-2-3-1 formation. He’s similar to Cesc Fabregas, though he’s nowhere as near prolific in front of goal. He can also play as a defensive or central midfielder.

Herrera has scored two league goals in 61 Athletic league games. He’s not shy of seeing cards either – 12 yellows and two reds last season. He’s 1m 82cm, yet slight at 73 kilos. United bulked up Shinji Kagawa and David de Gea to better deal with the physical demands of the Premier League.

Herrera’s a complete footballer, the man who sees the final ball United have been lacking in their last two matches. Reliable too. He played 54 games for Athletic in 2011-12 when they reached the Europa League final – and hammered United home and away en route.

He’s bright on and off the field. On it, he transmits information from the coach to the team. He’s played for Spain at U21 and U23 level. He’s from a well grounded football family, his father was Real Zaragoza’s sporting director, where Herrera started his career rather than in the Basque Country. Some fans initially accused him of nepotism but such criticisms vanished as he became one of their best players and moved back north.

After training well yesterday, Herrera will tell his side of the story today - that he never angled for a move away from Athletic - for he fears a backlash from his own fans. But, he’s a footballer, and when bigger clubs show genuine interest footballers tend to be interested in turn. It’s natural ambition and could Herrera be blamed for wanting to play Champions league football, for more money and on a bigger stage?

Herrera wanted to go to United. He claims that United were his favourite non-Spanish club (don’t they all?) and rates his two games against United in 2012 as one of the highlights of his career. United fans have never seen a European following so loud and numerous as the 7,000 Basques who travelled to Manchester that night.

Herrera saw two stars of that team, Javi Martinez and Fernando Llorente, move on. He isn’t desperate to move himself and is happy in Bilbao. He plays for a huge club in his home city alongside friends. But it was United. He was up for the move. As was his agent. Knowing that, United put a €30 million bid in on Thursday night. Clubs won’t bid for players they don’t think will want to come. Agents provide that information.

Athletic knocked it back publicly on Friday morning through their president. He gave the usual fan-appeasing guff about Athletic being a special club, different from the others. And they are. They’re also very wealthy and don’t need to sell any player. It’s not like they can go and buy a replacement, unless he’s Basque.
Llorente wasted last season because obstinate Athletic wouldn’t sell him. Martinez got out to Bayern Munich in a complicated deal, which took a month to conclude. United didn’t even have a week.

The parties kept talking. Herrera, a regular starter, was benched on Sunday for Athletic’s game at the Bernabeu. United verbally met the €36m buy-out clause on Sunday night. That figure is on all four copies of a Spanish players’ contract, one which is registered with the league. It’s indisputable.

That’s also when David Moyes was doing more homework on Herrera. He likes to know as much as possible about a player. With just 24 hours remaining until the transfer window shut, it was very late in the day, but United had missed out on earlier targets and declined others. Moyes thought the deal was doable.
At 11am on Monday there was an impasse. Money. United were haggling. By 3pm Spanish time, the deal was on. Herrera’s side again understood that United had agreed to meet the €36m buy out clause, aided by the player agreeing to a reduced five-year contract of £3 million a year, not £4 million as originally agreed.

Herrera was prepared to fly to Manchester. With no direct flights, it would have to be by a private plane. Unless he fancied rowing very quickly. (It’s actually possible to row between both stadiums.)

As far as Herrera’s side could see, there were two issues which needed resolving: a medical and the actual transfer of money. One United fan joked: “It’s all sorted, Ed Woodward has just wired all €36m direct to Real Sociedad’s account.”

There were other secondary issues to sort: a payment to Real Zaragoza and talk of a friendly in Athletic’s about to open new stadium. Herrera thought he was going. And then it went quiet.

Spanish newspaper AS reported that three United representatives were at the Spanish league’s offices in Madrid to pay Herrrera’s buy out clause. Three pictured men were from Basque lawyers Laffer. This was news to Herrera’s agency, who also look after Gerard Pique, David Villa and Sergio Canales. Herrera was with IMG for several seasons until this summer when he moved to the new agency. The agents wondered who they were.

Bizarrely, United claimed that they were being falsely represented by fake officials. It will be interesting to see where the lawyers send their invoice. Rodrigo Garcia, one of the three men, said: "We went to see the league over two technical issues. We were not representing the player or his agent."

Rather than deposit the money, the three representatives (of who?) left after an hour at 7pm, citing extra paperwork. They said they’d be back. They didn’t return. The deal fell apart in confusion. By 9.10pm, Herrera’s people thought it was over. They couldn’t explain why. United had pulled out, but Athletic weren’t blameless.

They obstructed, they agreed, they obstructed, they agreed. They’ll say it’s their right to be obstinate. Herrera is their player, not United’s. The player and his agent weren’t happy, neither were United. It was embarrassing and frustrating for everyone.

Herrera’s agent was contacted by a journalist colleague at the Daily Telegraph and asked if he was frustrated by the collapse of the deal. “No frustration,” he replied. “Man United would have been a possibility if the club had agreed but it didn’t happen. Ander continues at a club where he’s very happy.”

That’s the official line. Think of a swan who has been paddling across the Bay of Biscay in a storm. All may appear calm above the surface.

United’s line was that they couldn’t persuade Athletic to bring down the buy-out clause. And by 9pm, United, confident that Fellaini was going to happen, shifted attention to Madrid’s Sami Khedira. Their behaviour was reminiscent of someone buying all their Christmas presents from a petrol station on Christmas Eve.

Madrid rejected it immediately. United went back to Madrid, this time for a loan deal involving full-back Fabio Coentrao. United thought the deal was going through and completed the relevant paperwork. Madrid didn’t.

Thiago Alcantara, Fabregas, Herrera, Khedira and Coentrao. Five players, five attempts, five failures. Not just United fans are baffled and angered by these farcical events, the players are hardly jumping with delight either.

Moyes remains keen on Herrera. He’ll watch him closely and United may return. This time earlier and without the rush. It will make it easier for all parties concerned.


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part one:
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either the other clubs and press are having a field day poking us because of the transition (heck even gala is claiming we tried to sniff around sneijder), or our management needs to take an appraising look at how things were done during the window, and it can be (drastically) improved by the next window. if woodward is having trouble handling negotiations along with all his other tasks, hire a pro to do it full time! then he can keep his focus on getting more sponsorship deals and bringing revenue in!
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For me,those who say Ozil unproven in BPL is just sore loser. When you can't eat the grape,sure will say the grape sour. We not like invest 42m for an unknown/raw talent player,he is OZIL, world class player. He is main starter for Real Madrid and Germany, top assist last season in La Liga. With the club statue and huge fan base, at least half of the transfer for ozil can return,or maybe more! I know everyone like Kagawa,include myself. Even I have the jersey with the name on it,but we have to admit that for now Ozil>Kagawa. Plus Kagawa/Rooney can't play week in week out,and generally our squad is good enough,but who don't want any addition?Especially player like Ozil,definitely will do good for the team.

I can see that bring in Ozil can be encourage force for other off form player (Nani, Valencia, Young), can spark and threaten them to perform in order to be in the 1st eleven. Like I post early for the formation,if any of the wingers still off form, we can use 4-2-3-1, with Kagawa Ozil Rooney and assign them free role (back to Ronaldo Rooney Tevez combo), RVP no longer worry don't have delicious/killer pass to him.

What done is done,looking forward for next game, which is on next saturday,so long cry.gif cry.gif
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For me,those who say Ozil unproven in BPL is just sore loser. When you can't eat the grape,sure will say the grape sour. We not like invest 42m for an unknown/raw talent player,he is OZIL, world class player. He is main starter for Real Madrid and Germany, top assist last season in La Liga.  With the club statue and huge fan base, at least half of the transfer for ozil can return,or maybe more! I know everyone like Kagawa,include myself. Even I have the jersey with the name on it,but we have to admit that for now Ozil>Kagawa. Plus Kagawa/Rooney can't play week in week out,and generally our squad is good enough,but who don't want any addition?Especially player like Ozil,definitely will do good for the team.

I can see that bring in Ozil can be encourage force for other off form player (Nani, Valencia, Young), can spark and threaten them to perform in order to be in the 1st eleven. Like I post early for the formation,if any of the wingers still off form, we can use 4-2-3-1, with Kagawa Ozil Rooney and assign them free role (back to Ronaldo Rooney Tevez combo), RVP no longer worry don't have delicious/killer pass to him.

What done is done,looking forward for next game, which is on next saturday,so long cry.gif  cry.gif
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bro, everyone has the rights to his/her own opinion. just because i said unproven, no need to call ppl sore loser. remember the case wif veron? he was such a popular figure in serie A, argentina squad etc etc. but he was jst not fit for English football. there are a lot of talented players out there who just did not make the cut in english football. but thats not to say a proven player like Torres will do well everywhere lah. that 1 depends on the club playing style. but MU's record has always been going for those they need + those who hv proven records - eg van persie, cantona, berbatov (which didnt work out), carrick, rooney, etc. The only player which i remember that has not been in English football and that we paid a lot ....and flop....was Veron.

Yes, Ozil IS a class player. i was really really hoping we would buy him when he was only 12 mill pound. but we already have so many ppl in that position (then and now). thats why i don think we need to spend so much to bring a star player in. why not spend that money on positions we need? because at the end of the day, even we have Ozil, our midfield is still in a mess. Then what? spend another 40 million on a midfielder? total of more than 80 million? do you think Glazers would do that?

anyway, this is just my opinion. we're all MU fans. no need to call each other sore losers just because ppl voice their opinions tongue.gif
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I'm angry! Ronaldo slams Ozil's £42.5m Arsenal move as Real stars queue up to question sale

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Cristiano Ronaldo has declared his anger at Mesut Ozil’s departure to Arsenal.
Germany playmaker Ozil was a deadline-day record signing for the Gunners at £42.5million, with Ronaldo becoming the latest Real Madrid star to express his frustration at the move.
According to Spanish paper AS, Ronaldo has told Portugal team-mates his views on Ozil's switch, which came hours after confirmation of Real's world-record £86million signing of Tottenham's Gareth Bale.
'The sale of Ozil is very bad news for me,' he said.
'He was the player who best knew my moves in front of goal... I'm angry about Özil leaving.'
Real claim the move to Arsenal is a result of Ozil wanting to leave, but he had been told to go because the club need to pay loans taken out to bring in Bale, costing £100m-plus in repayments.
Bale will not be able to offer Ozil’s ability to find Ronaldo with a pass anywhere on the pitch, as the Portugal star alluded to.
Ronaldo's words come after a host of other top Real players spoke out on their team-mate's departure for London.
Such was Ozil’s popularity at the Bernabeu, he was one of the few players with friends on both sides of the club’s divide.


Ronaldo’s Portuguese contingent were all fond of him, while captain and Spain standard-bearer Sergio Ramos even risked former boss Jose Mourinho’s wrath to stand up for Real’s No 10.
In a game against Deportivo last season, when Ozil was taken off at half-time, Ramos put the No 10 shirt on under his own for the second half.
He felt Ozil was being unfairly targeted by Mourinho and if he scored was ready to rip off his shirt to dedicate the goal to his friend.
And Ramos said following Ozil's departure: 'It's obvious that he is a special team-mate and friend.
'I've always had a real 'feeling' with him, and it's a shame. He's a great footballer, unique.
'Ozil would be the very last player who I would sell from Real Madrid, if it was up to me. I don't understand this.
'But he has decided, and the club too. We have a great team and I hope it will be a big year [for us].'
Ramos took to Twitter to post a picture of him holding Ozil's last ever Madrid shirt, with the message: 'Your last match's t-shirt will be kept foundly with me.'
Ozil's national coach, German manager Joachim Low, also expressed his surprise at Real getting rid of the playmaker.
'Many Real players like Sami Khedira or Cristiano Ronaldo are sad about the transfer,' he said.
'For me, it's incomprehensible that Real would sell one of their top scorers.
'Mesut is a sensitive player and he needs the faith from the club and the coach.
'It seems that was not longer 100% there at Real whereas Arsenal and their coach Arsene Wenger pulled out all the stops to get him.


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for a 24yrs old 40m++ ozil wont be that bad, kagawa is also 24.
look at the livpool game, imagine that we r still behind 0-1 and there r 10 minutes left on the clock, would u prefer to bring in cleverly, ando, kagawa, carrick or ozil?
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To say ozil is not proven in the league is just ignorant. He is regular in the world cup.. he is basically world class..why real madrid decided to buy him is already a good reason he is good enough for the league.. Ozil was offered to united .. If united is smart enough.. We could negotiate a reduced price.. Reports says he prefered a move to united. Letting go a player with his quality is just plain dumb.. Atm we really need a player that actually can pass front and gives those killer passes to rooney and van persie..ozil is a specialist in that.. We cannot say like oh he is an attacking midfielder we dont need him.. Ozil can play anywhere in the midfield if you watched him play in real. Plus we rely too much on rooney and van persie.. Ozil will reduced that burden.. Cleveley welbz young cant provide that assurance.. We lost a great chance to sign one of the world's best killer passer.. Now we are stucked with cleverley.. Flip table nao!!!!
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easy brah.....ozil offer to united since 2010 (after world cup) united refuse that time.. at price 12m pound....
so even right now, united still refuse? why? i don't know...but on the bright side fellaini not bad thou cam play DM/AM can partner with carrick..
while ozil more 10 role(deep/ behind striker)we had rooney/ kagawa(now both injured cry.gif ) on that...

p/s : further more, please give chance to lingard and januzaj,both look promising with pass

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He snubbed us for real madrid dude.. Not that we refused

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Kawan2. lets just forget about ozil. He's gone. Move forward.
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Ozil is world class undoubtly. But he plays the same position as rooney/kagawa. I'm happy with rooney/kagawa. Kagawa just needs to get the chance to play.

Btw, #woodwardout

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we can always sign mr bolt anytime if we want to... he's free agent after all...more less
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Fuuuu its the result of Moyes dinosaur training....Moyes need to calm down.
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Fellaini's the man! Bolt backs mighty Marouane to shine at Old Trafford

Usain Bolt has called for Manchester United fans to get behind Marouane Fellaini when he puts on a red shirt at Old Trafford.

The 100m and 200m world record holder, a self-confessed United fan, held up a Belgium national team shirt with Fellaini on the back.

It comes three days after he demanded David Moyes made a move in the transfer window.

'Dave Moyes, we need a creative midfielder, one that can pass and create opportunities, right now,' he said.

'More control. Serious face.'

But now with the acquisition of Fellaini, perhaps Bolt will be appeased for the foreseeable future when it comes to football.

He made unexpected comments on Wednesday suggesting that he will retire after the 2016 Olympics in Rio.

'If I'm in great shape and I go there and do what I have to do, I think it would be a good time to retire on top and having dominated for so long,' Bolt said.

'I couldn't find that goal, that drive to get going again. I sat down and thought to myself: what do I really want? And what can I do in this sport some more?' he added.

'I've made up my mind that if I want to be among the greats of Ali, Pele and all these guys I have to continue dominating until I retire.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...l#ixzz2dySkgM7K
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There were fears he may never play again but Manchester United midfielder Darren Fletcher received a tonic on Wednesday when he was named in David Moyes’s 25-man squad for the Premier League season.

The Scotland captain has played just 13 games since being forced to take an extended break from football in 2011 after being diagnosed with ulcerative colitis.

He was named in the squad submitted to the League but still may not return until at least November and was left out of United’s Champions League squad which was given to UEFA.

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really wish i could see him in United jersey again sad.gif
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UC is a hard and debilitating disease sad.gif hope he comes back

Darn, no EPL this weekend sad.gif I am sad.
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How will Moyes use Fellaini at Manchester United?

Manchester United were relatively quiet in this transfer market and David Moyes's only high-profile signing was Marouane Fellaini for around £27 million. United's centre-midfield problems have been highlighted for some time, but where exactly will Fellaini fit into Moyes' plans?

Where did Moyes utilise Fellaini at Everton?

Last season 28 of Fellaini’s 31 appearances came as a second striker or attacking midfielder with just three coming as a central/deeper midfield player. What we can conclude from this is that, at least at Everton, Moyes saw Fellaini as a forward player, rather than a defensive-minded one. Everton were regularly seen aiming long balls or crosses into the box at Fellaini, who would act as a target man to bring the ball down and either shoot or try and bring another player into play.

In this position Fellaini was relatively effective, scoring 11 times and getting five assists. Generally speaking he was a handful for opposition defenders and goalkeepers with his bullish style of play.

Below is a look at Fellaini’s action areas from Everton’s 3-1 victory over Reading, a game in which Fellaini scored in:
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Fellaini spent the large majority of his time in the final third of the pitch, spending very little of the game in the more defensive areas. Fellaini was primarily operating as a second striker, playing just off the central striker. Despite having 18.70% of his play in the middle area of the pitch, Fellaini made just one tackle in this game, which further points to the more advanced and freer role he has when playing off of a striker. His main strength - height - was utilized excellently though, as he won 11 out of 16 headed duels.

Fellaini as a central midfielder

With Shinji Kagawa, Wayne Rooney and Danny Welbeck all capable of playing as the second striker/attacking midfielder in United's set-up, it seems incredibly unlikely that Moyes will use Fellaini as an advanced player. Instead he'll likely come into the side as a central midfielder alongside Michael Carrick.

This season Roberto Marinez has played Fellaini in this central midfield position. Fellaini has dropped deeper and as such has been enjoying more of the ball than he did last season, averaging 73.3 passes per game at an accuracy of 89% ( a vast improvement on last seasons 52.3 passes per game and 79% accuracy). Against Cardiff this was also notable with Fellaini attempting 66 passes:

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Fellaini enjoyed a 91% pass accuracy and notably the bulk of his passes were from his own half, further demonstrating how he has been used as a defensive/central midfielder this season under Martinez. Of course, Martinez places a huge emphasis on possession and using the ball, but this shows that Fellani can adapt to a more technical-based system if required of him.

Fellaini has also been very combative this season, which bodes well for Manchester United fans. The big Belgian has won 4.3 tackles per game (vastly more than Carrick or Tom Cleverley) at an impressive 85% success rate:

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Not only that, but we can still see that he remains an impressive aerial presence, which can add a lot to Manchester United's game in both penalty boxes.

When he was used as a central midfielder last season he committed a lot of fouls, around 2.6 per game, more than any other Premier League player. This has important implications for Fellaini as a central midfielder, especially in a deeper role, as he is prone to a rash tackle and regularly fouls opponents who get past him. This season we can also see that he is fouling too regularly, something that he must improve at United, or he will risk giving away cheap free-kicks and being booked unnecessarily.

Conclusion

Whilst Fellaini can provide an option as a second striker/attacking midfielder, it appears very unlikely that he'll do this at Manchester United. He can provide a 'Plan B' as a long ball option in tighter games, something that the Old Trafford faithful might not take kindly to.

On the whole however, he'll be competing with Tom Cleverley for a place alongside Michael Carrick. Fellaini isn't the fastest player but he is combative and can win the ball (as he's already shown this season for Everton in his three outings). The worry will be his tendency to give away a lot of fouls: if he wants to be a hit at United he will have to improve his disciplinary record.

If he can continue to dominate the midfield, by winning tackles and continuing to show an improved pass accuracy, then there is no reason why he cannot succeed at United, regardless of whether he was the fans' top choice or not.

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Fuuuu its the result of Moyes dinosaur training....Moyes need to calm down.
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Our very own rooney potter.. Hahaa.. Jones need to kick some sense into him.. But the cut i waaay to deep..

Ozil no doubt will be doing well at arsenal.. Their playing style should fit well.. My next fantasy target.. Kachinggggg
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GOOD! Don't sign extension with Real Madrid and come back to Man Utd next season. Show them who is boss CR7!
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UC is a hard and debilitating disease sad.gif hope he comes back

Darn, no EPL this weekend sad.gif I am sad.
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the good thing bout MU, we reward players who are loyal to the club (except those who managed to piss off SAF last time). but i do hope we wont have to wait for as long as we waited Hargreaves the glassman =_=
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Fuuuu its the result of Moyes dinosaur training....Moyes need to calm down.
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Stupid comment. It was already stated that it was Phil Jones. Every club includes training matches and it was just an accident. Really stupid to blame Moyes.
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GOOD! Don't sign extension with Real Madrid and come back to Man Utd next season. Show them who is boss CR7!
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come back in Jan tongue.gif then people will follow his exile! biggrin.gif and we will reign even mooooorrrrrreeeeeeee
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Now...thats is steel...BPL proven...compared different position that he assign to...its what we need...instead of ozil...let see if he can keep ozil quite when we meet them...sure no doubt ozil is worldclass...who wont want him...but given kagawa is to show his talent after taste BPL last season...this term he gonna shine...this group is ready to take off after being sync last season or 2...if u keep bringing new player every summer...worldclass summore...he sure want to play every game...n the team need accomodate him...while adding certain quality we wanna add to the team...which is steel in fellaini to aid our cause...he will accomodate the team...giving various dimension to our game...if we need height up front or in set pieces...tho he is prone to foul...i tot its what he is...he is that steel n gud technique in win n protecting the ball...that makes him a refferee target when opponent easily stumble n cant win duel against him...u rarely see him intentionally commit foul...he is very fair player when put on a challenge...(dunno if he is a badass inside)...based on games i watch him play la...juz my 2 inch...
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QUOTE(konichiwawa @ Sep 5 2013, 08:49 AM)
Stupid comment. It was already stated that it was Phil Jones. Every club includes training matches and it was just an accident. Really stupid to blame Moyes.
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post Sep 5 2013, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(budakhijau @ Sep 5 2013, 09:49 AM)
u rarely see him intentionally commit foul...to play every he is very fair player when put on a challenge...(dunno if he is a badass inside)...based on games i watch him play la...juz my 2 inch...
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I'm ready to support him and all but that is completely untrue and it's the part of his game which he needs to improve on. He swings his elbows around too freely (some refs in Europe won't tolerate this even though it may be accidental as we've already seen with Nani) and he even headbutted Shawcross intentionally (even Moyes openly criticised him for this).
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QUOTE(IronLionZion @ Sep 5 2013, 11:27 AM)
I'm ready to support him and all but that is completely untrue and it's the part of his game which he needs to improve on. He swings his elbows around too freely (some refs in Europe won't tolerate this even though it may be accidental as we've already seen with Nani) and he even headbutted Shawcross intentionally (even Moyes openly criticised him for this).
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btol jugak tu...but maybe sometimes we need that to strike fear to opponent that we cannot be bully...bring it on...we r up for the battle...come at me...lets hav a go...n sure moyes made him learn the lesson...after that insident i tot moyes pull him aside in next training session...let him train alone n figure what he has done...n he apologize after that...dont mess with moyes...i see roon is keep his head down n work his socks of on his fitness...head down smpi tak nmpk boot jones crack his skull...lulzzz...
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Fabio Coentrao 'reduced to tears' by Man Utd's botched loan move

Reports in Portugal suggest that Coentrao, currently away with the Portugese national team, had to be consoled by Cristiano Ronaldo and Nani after learning the move to Old Trafford would not go ahead on Tuesday afternoon.

According to Portugese publication Record cried on the shoulders of his colleagues after upon hearing the news.

Whilst reports surfaced shortly after the transfer window closed that United may not have filed the necessary paperwork before Monday night's 11pm deadline, it was not until Tuesday afternoon that Coentrao was told he would definitely be staying with Real Madrid until January.

Coentrao had his heart set on a move away from the Bernabeu this summer after becoming unsettled following the departure of Jose Mourinho for Chelsea but rumours suggest that Real pulled the pin on the move after failing to sign Granada's Guilherme Siqueira, who instead joined Benfica.

And Coentrao was not the only one upset by Manchester United's failure to complete the deal.

Alexander Buttner's agent Alexander Bursac slammed the club's inability to get in a new left back, denying the Dutch defender to make a loan move of his own in pursuit of more regular first-team football.

Bursac told Voetbal International: "It's unbelievable that Coentrao was not signed on time and, whether that is an error on the part of Real or United doesn't matter.

"We have received assurances of a loan. Alex is not necessarily looking for a guarantee of playing time, but he does not want to spend the entire season on the bench."

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/42...tched-loan-move


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bolt.....damn lunsi this fella....but he is that good so what can you say laugh.gif

QUOTE(dEviLs @ Sep 5 2013, 08:27 AM)
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QUOTE(syarz @ Sep 5 2013, 08:40 AM)
Our very own rooney potter.. Hahaa.. Jones need to kick some sense into him..  But the cut i waaay to deep..
Ozil no doubt will be doing well at arsenal.. Their playing style should fit well.. My next fantasy target.. Kachinggggg
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