QUOTE(natzakaria @ Oct 2 2013, 12:20 PM)
can anyone please block this plastic fan from this page?English Clubs Manchester United Street Talks, Sunderland 1 Man Utd 2
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Oct 2 2013, 12:26 PM
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Oct 2 2013, 12:29 PM
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Oct 2 2013, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Oct 2 2013, 10:54 AM) Why shouldnt Giggs play? He is an inspiration to the squad. Younger players looked up to him as a role model. His presence will have impact on the players. Even though he is slower due to age, he is still a special player. yup. giggs brings experience,maturity and stability in the play. i think he did ok so far deservely to still play. he was very good actually vs liverpool in league cup. judging from his performance so far i would love to see him stay next season. we need squad depth for me, i rather see other player to start but i will always hv him in the sub. when we are leading and wanna keep posession he will deliver and when we trailing he can lift the squad and motivate. even he no longer the same giggs we used to see from time to time he can suprise opponent wt glimpse of his oldself |
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Oct 2 2013, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE(natzakaria @ Oct 2 2013, 12:29 PM) meluat la bro.. x abis2 wt ur negativityhiring moyes is a transition process toward stability after SAF era. the fact he was given 6 yrs contract also shown its a long term project. of coz theres possibility it might not work and moyes being the wrong choice but thts the direction the club and SAF himself want wt united future. for fans(kalau btul la you united fan) it is better for us to hv faith and show support wt the choice. its a long season.. lets wait atleast till end of december before making any judgement This post has been edited by onepack: Oct 2 2013, 01:05 PM |
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Oct 2 2013, 01:09 PM
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QUOTE(onepack @ Oct 2 2013, 01:01 PM) meluat la bro.. x abis2 wt ur negativity United is build on winning mentality with the blend of a Good manager, great backroom staff, management, strategy, scouting, acquiring good players as a team.hiring moyes is a transition process toward stability after SAF era. the fact he was given 6 yrs contract also shown its a long term project. of coz theres possibility it might not work and moyes being the wrong choice but thts the direction the club and SAF himself want wt united future. for fans(kalau btul la you unites fan) it is better for us to hv faith and show support wt the choice. its a long season.. lets wait atleast till end of december before making any judgement However this was sorely missing when Moyes was brought in. He signed Afro on a panic buy where all Afro does is trot the middle of the pitch clueless. Took out Kagawa at the stroke of halftime in the Hammers game and got hammered. I predict if United were to lose 3 more games out of the next 6 - Moyes will be out. |
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Oct 2 2013, 01:24 PM
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QUOTE(natzakaria @ Oct 2 2013, 01:09 PM) United is build on winning mentality with the blend of a Good manager, great backroom staff, management, strategy, scouting, acquiring good players as a team. However this was sorely missing when Moyes was brought in. He signed Afro on a panic buy where all Afro does is trot the middle of the pitch clueless. Took out Kagawa at the stroke of halftime in the Hammers game and got hammered. I predict if United were to lose 3 more games out of the next 6 - Moyes will be out. |
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Oct 2 2013, 01:26 PM
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Oct 2 2013, 01:28 PM
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Oct 2 2013, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE(Yukieliow @ Oct 2 2013, 12:06 PM) YOU need a big manager that has been to the top ..Moyes have not even champ league experience ... Your future is nothing but doomed! bro, Moyes WAS in CL ok. just not at the final stages. if u look in BPL recent history, most clubs dont have such chance including liverpool. spurs did ok lately to be included in the CL, but before that also hardly been in CL. also, you're a Spurs fan, dont say it like you know the culture of MU QUOTE(natzakaria @ Oct 2 2013, 12:20 PM) correct. but the one said to be the right one, might not be the one which our club really needs. when a manager is selected, it is not just based on his track records but also his personality, the way he handles the press, the players, his hands-on methods, the way he builds up the kids in youth squad, etc. For me, DM has all of those. Yes, he doesnt have the track records like most of us hope he has. but look at Mancini, Capello, Ancelotti, etc... all of them have good past records but they still failed. Even Mourinho did not do as well as he was hoping for in Spanish league. Whereas, mgrs like Di Matteo who was nothing before he started managing chelsea .... i think his performance was one of the best chelsea has witnessed in recent years. Yet, their owners think the same way as you - they needed someone with track record, and thus he was sacked. QUOTE(onepack @ Oct 2 2013, 01:01 PM) meluat la bro.. x abis2 wt ur negativity i would give DM 1 season hiring moyes is a transition process toward stability after SAF era. the fact he was given 6 yrs contract also shown its a long term project. of coz theres possibility it might not work and moyes being the wrong choice but thts the direction the club and SAF himself want wt united future. for fans(kalau btul la you united fan) it is better for us to hv faith and show support wt the choice. its a long season.. lets wait atleast till end of december before making any judgement QUOTE(natzakaria @ Oct 2 2013, 01:09 PM) United is build on winning mentality with the blend of a Good manager, great backroom staff, management, strategy, scouting, acquiring good players as a team. Kagawa DID NOT play well during the first half. thats why he was subbed out. and who was the guy who replaced him? did he do better? Yes he did.However this was sorely missing when Moyes was brought in. He signed Afro on a panic buy where all Afro does is trot the middle of the pitch clueless. Took out Kagawa at the stroke of halftime in the Hammers game and got hammered. I predict if United were to lose 3 more games out of the next 6 - Moyes will be out. Afro played less than 5 matches so far. a successful club like MU has all those u mentioned, true. but once 1 part of them left, just like any company in this world.....the replacement is needed. and once u replaced something/someone, we will have the TRANSITION period. DM bought Afro not because he panic buy. its because like most of us here, we do believe Afro is a good addition. just that its not easy to blend in with the squad after only playing like ....2.5 or 3 games? maybe when we bought Afro, you were expecting a RVP or Ozil kind of instant impact. Sadly, he is not that kind of player. This post has been edited by daydreaming: Oct 2 2013, 01:30 PM |
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Oct 2 2013, 01:31 PM
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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Oct 2 2013, 01:28 PM) Ignore the troll. He' a plastic and his life motivation is to seek instant success in anything he see or do. Which is why this club does not cater to lalangs like them. They see a winning team, they support. If the team is underperforming, they strut their negativity. Typical lalangs. |
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Oct 2 2013, 01:41 PM
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The reason i think was Moyes fault bcos he should have did something which he has not.
Ozil was available then and United have made enquiry before. Moyes was so anxious and fully concentrate on signing Fellani on dateline day. I mean Fellani who is a midtable team player and he 'overlook' Ozil. Only got himself to be blame! And im certainly unhappy about it bcos Arsenal got Ozil FFS Moyes are dumb! This post has been edited by Yukieliow: Oct 2 2013, 01:42 PM |
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Oct 2 2013, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Oct 2 2013, 01:31 PM) Ignore the troll. He' a plastic and his life motivation is to seek instant success in anything he see or do. Which is why this club does not cater to lalangs like them. They see a winning team, they support. If the team is underperforming, they strut their negativity. Typical lalangs. |
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Oct 2 2013, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE(daydreaming @ Oct 2 2013, 01:29 PM) Kagawa DID NOT play well during the first half. thats why he was subbed out. and who was the guy who replaced him? did he do better? Yes he did. Afro played less than 5 matches so far. a successful club like MU has all those u mentioned, true. but once 1 part of them left, just like any company in this world.....the replacement is needed. and once u replaced something/someone, we will have the TRANSITION period. DM bought Afro not because he panic buy. its because like most of us here, we do believe Afro is a good addition. just that its not easy to blend in with the squad after only playing like ....2.5 or 3 games? maybe when we bought Afro, you were expecting a RVP or Ozil kind of instant impact. Sadly, he is not that kind of player. Moyes will definitely break more records for United albeit horrendous ones. Would like to see Moyes prove me wrong but its looking very bleak. Everton is flying without him and Martinez did not inherit a banged up squad - he built it. Moyes was given Champions on a gold platter and and making gold turn old. |
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Oct 2 2013, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE(natzakaria @ Oct 2 2013, 01:45 PM) Transition is acceptable but what was he doing from the moment SAF brought him in (yes BROUGHT him in) until transfer windows closed? Afro ! While no doubt he is a talent he trots expecting other to scurry on his behalf - that is NOT united. Nani was given hell when he did not track back. DM only stepped in as manager officially in July. July-August , pre-season tour. August to transfer deadline, season started. Moyes will definitely break more records for United albeit horrendous ones. Would like to see Moyes prove me wrong but its looking very bleak. Everton is flying without him and Martinez did not inherit a banged up squad - he built it. Moyes was given Champions on a gold platter and and making gold turn old. Do you seriously think he has time to look at everything? also, MU did bid for Fab. he didnt want to join. MU did ask bout Herrera, but he was not proven and too expensive. MU never want to overpay for a player For those people who hv been complaining bout MU not signing Ozil ....... i was one of them, but only when he was 10-20 mill worth. not when he's 42 mill. For tat amount of money and that position, we already have Rooney, welbeck, kagawa, giggs. yes, all of them might not be as good as Ozil. but our main weakness still lie in the midfield and defence. not the attacking squad. and...pls la....Martinez did inherit the team from Moyes. =_= Baines scored few lately. and im sure Martinez did not build Baines for few years into what he is today. Our squad has always been imperfect ever since few years ago. but they pushed on because of Ferguson. now the new manager will have to fill in the blanks because he is not Ferguson and he doesnt have that scary aura to opponents. No manager in this world can replace Ferguson. not even Pep or Mourinho. so even if they take over, opponents will not be afraid also. |
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Oct 2 2013, 02:02 PM
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QUOTE(Yukieliow @ Oct 2 2013, 01:41 PM) The reason i think was Moyes fault bcos he should have did something which he has not. My god your grammar is comical. In the first place, was Ozil part of Moyes plans in the first place. Rumours, not official news. Secondly, Moyes prefers to deploy a 442 formation which Ozil does not fit at all knowing that Kagawa is being overlooked as well. Ozil was available then and United have made enquiry before. Moyes was so anxious and fully concentrate on signing Fellani on dateline day. I mean Fellani who is a midtable team player and he 'overlook' Ozil. Only got himself to be blame! And im certainly unhappy about it bcos Arsenal got Ozil FFS Moyes are dumb! Interesting enough is that, where was Spurs for the last 10 years? Playing second fiddle to Arsenal since forever except one or two, feeder club to Real Madrid and the list goes on. The season is only 6 games old, why the rush? I cannot foresee Spurs sustaining long at the top as well. |
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Oct 2 2013, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Oct 2 2013, 02:02 PM) My god your grammar is comical. In the first place, was Ozil part of Moyes plans in the first place. Rumours, not official news. Secondly, Moyes prefers to deploy a 442 formation which Ozil does not fit at all knowing that Kagawa is being overlooked as well. i kinda like spurs actually. because the mgr is quite good. n because during london derby btw spurs / arsenal, or spurs / chelsea..... i always support spurs. im sure u know why ..... coz they never pose a threat to MUInteresting enough is that, where was Spurs for the last 10 years? Playing second fiddle to Arsenal since forever except one or two, feeder club to Real Madrid and the list goes on. The season is only 6 games old, why the rush? I cannot foresee Spurs sustaining long at the top as well. |
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Oct 2 2013, 02:06 PM
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Oct 2 2013, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Oct 2 2013, 03:02 PM) My god your grammar is comical. In the first place, was Ozil part of Moyes plans in the first place. Rumours, not official news. Secondly, Moyes prefers to deploy a 442 formation which Ozil does not fit at all knowing that Kagawa is being overlooked as well. Spurs to finish 4th or 5th is a normal kind of thing.Typical united fan who once got butthurt try to spot other teams la,,grammar la..LOLInteresting enough is that, where was Spurs for the last 10 years? Playing second fiddle to Arsenal since forever except one or two, feeder club to Real Madrid and the list goes on. The season is only 6 games old, why the rush? I cannot foresee Spurs sustaining long at the top as well. United finish out of top 4 is BIG NEWS and thank god it finally happens with MOYES! congrats u got a lousy manager there to put United in the coffin! |
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Oct 2 2013, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE(daydreaming @ Oct 2 2013, 02:00 PM) DM only stepped in as manager officially in July. July-August , pre-season tour. August to transfer deadline, season started. Indeed Martinez inherited Everton from Moyes and made Everton BETTER without the need of Afro mind you. Baines looks only good in a team like Everton.Do you seriously think he has time to look at everything? also, MU did bid for Fab. he didnt want to join. MU did ask bout Herrera, but he was not proven and too expensive. MU never want to overpay for a player For those people who hv been complaining bout MU not signing Ozil ....... i was one of them, but only when he was 10-20 mill worth. not when he's 42 mill. For tat amount of money and that position, we already have Rooney, welbeck, kagawa, giggs. yes, all of them might not be as good as Ozil. but our main weakness still lie in the midfield and defence. not the attacking squad. and...pls la....Martinez did inherit the team from Moyes. =_= Baines scored few lately. and im sure Martinez did not build Baines for few years into what he is today. Our squad has always been imperfect ever since few years ago. but they pushed on because of Ferguson. now the new manager will have to fill in the blanks because he is not Ferguson and he doesnt have that scary aura to opponents. No manager in this world can replace Ferguson. not even Pep or Mourinho. so even if they take over, opponents will not be afraid also. As I said Moyes inherited Champions and made them poodles |
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Oct 2 2013, 02:13 PM
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wow. dah tukar kelab pun masih anti-United lagi. respect la.
usually my spuds/united friends always back each other up. |
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