Got this this cny something bright.. The new gen Seiko Orange Monster SRP309. Paid 790 for it, at 35% discount off the retail price of 1190. Not sure if it's the cheapest in town, but I'm loving the orange dial the new 4R36 movement inside which is hackable and can be handwound is pretty cool.

Can I send the watch back for exchange if my seiko snzg15 runs a minute faster within a day? Now it's 2 minutes faster over the course of 3 days and it's quite annoying.

I don't want to pop the back of the case to regulate it since I just bought the watch about a month ago.

Can I send the watch back for exchange if my seiko snzg15 runs a minute faster within a day? Now it's 2 minutes faster over the course of 3 days and it's quite annoying.

I don't want to pop the back of the case to regulate it since I just bought the watch about a month ago.

Strictly a matter of opinion.  I strongly disagree.  Perhaps because the average watch enthusiast does not know what I know about the brand.  I mean, I have a copy of the patent application for the device protecting the crown that was filed in the United States Patent Office in 1960.  I have a copy of the photo of the original Panerai boutique as it stood in 1930 and another as it stands in 2013.  I've seen an incredible number of iterations of the watch from the 1930's to the 1950's and the varying inconsistencies in designs between the years as the company tried numerous prototypes to get the design right.  The closest real competitor in that category was the Rolex Submariner, and that was a consumer grade watch meant for an entirely different purpose and didn't even see the light of day until 1953.

Panerai today is probably a better managed and marketed brand, but since we're talking history, back then it was run by Italians, and for the life of them, they could only figure out a measly contract with the Italian Navy and produce just hundreds of watches in the span of several decades.  By most measures it was a rather unsuccessful company from a capitalists point of view, but they made watches that were designed for and used in combat, so from a watchmakers standpoint it was a rather revolutionary timepiece and not for the traditional reasons (i.e. execution of the movement).  Every other watch was 30mm or so in size, and these guys were going 47mm with huge arabic numbers because it had to be strapped over a wetsuit and be legible in all conditions.  I mean even the name of the watch "Radiomir" was named after the radioactive paste that was applied to it for the purposes of underwater/nighttime illumination - it's still the same name after 80 years. 

You see, Panerai never wanted to be the biggest and best known watchmaker in the world.  They didn't seek to slap their brand on the wrist of every famous explorer, sports athlete or space mission.  It's really a miracle that the brand is still around, because there are so many boutique shops that come and go.  But how many that have changed the face of watch design today from something created 80 years ago and designed for a frogman with never any expectation to go to the mass consumer market.  If anything, big corporations and slick marketing are to blame for the prolific expansion of the brand today, but the history remains the same.

I mean, I can't say the brand dates back to a family of the 1600's that formed an entire watchmaking region (JLC) or that it was the first to the moon (Omega), first to go underwater (Rolex) first jeweler to go big watchmaker (Cartier) or the oldest (Vacheron Constantin).  Those all have great history for different reasons, and the companies all had very different purposes and desires.  Does that make them any more "great" or "rich" in history?  It depends on who you ask, but unfair to say with absolute resolution, one way or another.

.....Every other watch was 30mm or so in size, and these guys were going 47mm with huge arabic numbers because it had to be strapped over a wetsuit and be legible in all conditions......but they made watches that were designed for and used in combat, so from a watchmakers standpoint it was a rather revolutionary timepiece and not for the traditional reasons (i.e. execution of the movement)

Panerai never wanted to be the biggest and best known watchmaker in the world.  They didn't seek to slap their brand on the wrist of every famous explorer, sports athlete or space mission.  It's really a miracle that the brand is still around, because there are so many boutique shops that come and go.

This is much more interesting than the typical posts about price inquiries  and as posted earlier, I think pams are has a unique look, a special something when it comes to physically interacting with it, its legacy of bringing about the trend to plus size watches and how its peers marketed their product.

That said, Panerai history a fascinating read but my opinion remains that the "history" is overly romanticized around the exploits italian navy divers and just too one dimensional.
Panerai had a requirement set by the Italian navy and went to Rolex for a solution. So happens Rolex had pocket pocket watch that fits the bill. Weld on some wire lugs and the rest is history.

I would also argue that the special feature of a large 47mm legible dial visible under murky waters when other watches were 30mm could very well end up in oblivion let alone revolutionary since no one took notice for 60+ years until Stallone popularized it with the Hollywood crowd. Let's not forget that fliegers for the Luftwaffe were even 55mm in size.
Absolutely agree that the brand's status today, where it seems they're going and most of all its ability to avoid being pigeon holed as a two model watch brand is nothing short of miraculous.

But again it could be argued that they never had the muscles to to "slap their brand on the wrist of every famous explorer, sports athlete or space mission" pre-richemont. Now they could and certainly have their fair shares of celebrity endorsements, explorer (Mike Horn and his Submersible) and wait for it.... the Expendables. 

I actually find panerai attractive dues to their design ques. They are also very recognizable because of their newly crown guard trademark(if i remember correctly). However I was not interested buying them because of them putting eta movement and selling for crazy prices until they release their movement p9000. So i was going to research about the p9000 and also figure out which watch has such movement until i stumbled this http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/mess...sterious+PAM318

After reading all about this and their after sales not willingly contacting all the other 318 owners, i find that this brand is out there to take your money and is not passionate about watches. That is why I do not look highly on panerai as a brand.

That is why i also agree with everdying that this brand is for those who are just into expensive fashion statement and not into the brand as a whole.

I actually find panerai attractive dues to their design ques. They are also very recognizable because of their newly crown guard trademark(if i remember correctly). However I was not interested buying them because of them putting eta movement and selling for crazy prices until they release their movement p9000. So i was going to research about the p9000 and also figure out which watch has such movement until i stumbled this http://www.network54.com/Forum/353391/mess...sterious+PAM318

After reading all about this and their after sales not willingly contacting all the other 318 owners, i find that this brand is out there to take your money and is not passionate about watches. That is why I do not look highly on panerai as a brand.

That is why i also agree with everdying that this brand is for those who are just into expensive fashion statement and not into the brand as a whole.

Guys, what do you think of the Timex Weekender? Is there anything specifically in mind? I'll be buying it as a gift for a friend of mine, decent looking watch enough.

Depend on how you look at it.
Its inexpensive, timex has historical roots in making cheap watches, it looks and feels unmistakenably  inexpensive but its honest and functional.

Cheap.. Would it be more accurate to say they make tool watches for the everyday man and fairly priced?

Most ETA movement swiss watches don't cost that much to make. Marketing costs the bulk of it. More of a luxury good rather than a tool to tell time.

hi guys,

sorry to butt in ..any recommendations for a white face + metal strap + medium large size ?

looking for more options, to choose, budgets within 8k - 14k