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 NETWORK ATTACHED STORAGE (NAS) V2

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post May 14 2018, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(kennji @ May 14 2018, 12:29 PM)
Does anyone have experience sending QNAP NAS for repair? What is the procedure if you may share (where to send)?

My TS-453mini experienced problem after a firmware update. The story: RAID10 (4 x 4TB WD RED) went into rebuilt mode after the firmware update restart (Disk 1 failure?) It stopped after sometime before finishing as the NAS reported some disk was dropped and disconnected from the array. Tried to restart the NAS and when booted up all disk is available but RAID went into "inactive". The recover/rebuilt function is no longer available.

Contacted QNAP and all they suggest is hardware failure, ask to send for repair. Dang...

Another thing: Do you guys do disk scan/SMART test for your disk in the NAS regularly? Is it necessary or good to do? Thanks.
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Try to check their forum or google such problem result. Or ask inside their forum. Might find some answer.

I always do that before decide to send.

My synology have schedule to check the hdd health. I don't do disk scan/smart test. Let the unit decide itself.
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post May 14 2018, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(kennji @ May 14 2018, 02:02 PM)
I'll search some more but I have also tried some linux commands to fix/recreate the RAID but it seems the root device is always not found. sigh...Thought paid good money for a NAS and RAID10 config would kind of lessen issues with backup
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Try takeout the HDD and run empty. If the cause from the unit, than no choice to send for repair.

Can the firmware back version ?
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post May 29 2018, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ May 29 2018, 05:24 PM)
Normally how long can a NAS last? Up to 6-7 years?

Will the hard disk fail first or NAS?
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From my experience, the NAS fail 1st. Average 6-7yrs.

Haven't experience HDD fail.

Either 1 fail, your file still safe to be recover back.
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post May 29 2018, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ May 29 2018, 06:01 PM)
You are using which model NAS? Which type of hard disk?
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Synology.

WD red.
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post May 29 2018, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ May 29 2018, 06:09 PM)
Okok.. my target is Synology too

But he thinking to get the normal type HDD only..
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It is still ok with normal HDD.

I have use Samsung normal HDD before on NAS.
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post May 29 2018, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ May 29 2018, 06:20 PM)
Great.. looking at Toshiba hdd
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I use before. But not encourage it.


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post May 29 2018, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ May 29 2018, 06:49 PM)
Then which standard normal HDD you feel is better?
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NAS have special HDD for NAS.

WD Red is for NAS use.

If no budget, than no choice. But not encourage.
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post Jun 24 2018, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(linkinpark @ Jun 24 2018, 09:40 AM)
I planning to get a synology ds418 for file storage. Just got one question if the nas device few years later faulty can I move all hdd to another synology nas without losing any data? I got a lot of important data which I can't afford of losing it.
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Yes.
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post Jun 24 2018, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(linkinpark @ Jun 24 2018, 10:20 AM)
you mean I can swap all my hdd to a new any model of synology ex. from a faulty Ds418 to Ds718 without losing the existing raid array and data intact? Just swap without any further headache configuration?
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Yes. Just transfer all the hdd to the new unit. Than repopulate back the data. It is easy step built in function step by step in the Synology.

You can read back what I do when change from 409+ to 1815+.
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post Jun 24 2018, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(linkinpark @ Jun 24 2018, 12:26 PM)
Thanks for yr reply. Lastly izzit worth to upgrade to synology ds418 compare right now i'm using my old pc as a storage server. Hw spec amd fx4300,4gb d3ram, 4x4tb raid5 using motherboard raid.
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Why you want to change?

If current to the job, just continue it.
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post Jun 24 2018, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(linkinpark @ Jun 24 2018, 05:44 PM)
Last time pc build is easy. Because amd raid i migrate hdd from 1motherboard to another new board without losing the raid array and data. AM2 to AM3+ very simple. Now amd new AM4 hardly u can see raid5 mostly 0,1,10. My storage been running few years already before become data storage . Scare hw might not last in few more years
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But Synology speed not that impress. Not upgradeable unless + model for ram.

Look for multi lan port with segregate function.


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post Jul 19 2018, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jul 19 2018, 11:07 AM)
guys, I'm being referred here from another thread

I'm thinking of setting up NAS for my parents house, what are the equipment recommended currently

I will be controlling it remotely if possible, would want to access to the NAS from a different location as well

is it possible to stream movies from the NAS from a diff location? provided the upload speed is good enough?
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Just get the Synology.

But makesure you get the Upload speed fast from ISP if want to stream movie.
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post Jul 19 2018, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jul 19 2018, 11:30 AM)
which Synology in particular?

how much of upload speed do I need? is 50mbps good enough?

how do I access the NAS from a different location if I want to watch the file in tv? do I need a pc to do that?
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Depend your budget. More expensive, more speed.

What you see normally is download speed. Not the upload speed. Upload speed are lower usually for home. So check the upload speed when get a package. More than 10mbps should be ok. If you stream HD, higher is better. Don't forget, beside streaming, other people also use for phone and pc.

You will assign a DDNS on the NAS. Synology have the server to track your IP for free. It is just like any website you type on the browser or apps to access your NAS. To watch on TV, either get a android tv box or built in TV player. Download the apps or using the TV box apps. For phone, download the DS apps. For pc, use the chrome or IE browser to access your NAS. It have the media player.


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post Jul 19 2018, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jul 19 2018, 11:51 AM)
thanks

ya, im stating 50mbps upload because my current package is 100 down 50 up
thats the max we could get here in JB

just curious, whats the app needed in the tv player
assuming preferably the tv has android built in to download this certain app I guess
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Try test the actual upload speed.

You can use the built in player and setup the player link to the NAS.

Or download the Apps (DS synology) from apps store. Synology have apps for android and ios. Pretty easy to use and good UI video apps.

example of my DS video apps in iphone.

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post Jul 19 2018, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jul 19 2018, 12:14 PM)
nice.....

let me get the NAS 1st then only bombard this thread with stupid questions
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If have budget, get

1) 8bay high speed NAS
2) Have segregate LAN
3) get a switch
4) UPS
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post Jul 19 2018, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jul 19 2018, 01:33 PM)
1) need so many bay ar? was thinking about 2 or 4 will do
2) what is this?
3) is this the router switch?
4) this is for the power supply?
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1) Depend how exhaustive you are. Movie collector or just watch and delete. The file is big for 1080p. Don't forget 4K. Your NAS full in no time.
2) It is 2 LAN cable connect out to switch. High speed download/upload. Also good if 1 LAN spoil.
3) It is a router switch.
4) Incase power trip. You don't want to corrupt the data.
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post Jul 20 2018, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Jul 19 2018, 02:28 PM)
thanks again shifu

just curious, what could I achieve with a. 6k budget and b. 10k budget

the house I notice it has the lan cable port assigned to each hall area, would the normal unified router work? or I need to connect it to another gigabit router
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The budget very much depend are you an exhaustive or simply just store some TVB drama.

Either you get a 4bay with large size HDD or 8bay with smallet size HDD. Which 8bay have future expansion if full.

Model like DS418 or DS1817/1817+ is good enough for home.

If the usage LAN network activity is busy or many user, it is best to have switch and use the unified router as internet gateway. The unified router might not have enough port for your house. Do the math. But most of the time will be in WIFI more.

It is gigabit world now. Anything you buy must be gigabit speed.

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post Sep 6 2018, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Sep 6 2018, 08:30 AM)
That would be a big problem. sweat.gif
I need to find replacement, not that my current NAS got problem but already using for few years, who know if suddenly it died.

I see Qnap ui look more like iPad ui while Synology ui more like Windows. Asustor also like iPad/Android ui but also have side widget like Synology.

For same price range Synology seem have lower spec compared Qnap and Asustor. Like DS418 only Realtek CPU while others using Intel CPU. But I think Synology have the best in system reliability?
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Synology is not a reliable too. I already experience 2 unit spoiled.

But because of easy to use and get use to it the UI, I choose back Synology. Beside that, it easy for me to transfer the HDD from the dead unit.

You already have experience. Look for specialist brand that already stay long in NAS industry.
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post Sep 6 2018, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Sep 6 2018, 10:39 AM)
Just realised that all top 3 NAS brands and even Promise are Taiwan company. Taiwan really monopolise this business.

Asus seem to be the biggest company among them, so they got the money to keep improving their products. But on the other hand they are the youngest in NAS, and not as popular as Syn and Qnap so there's possibility of the subsidiary being closed down if not making money.

Synology seems like the best choice in term of company experience and user choice. But like you said already 2 spoiled, and the spec is lower than other brands. Headache..
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What you do with the NAS ?

Why you need that high spec ?


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post Sep 6 2018, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(Lurker @ Sep 6 2018, 11:16 AM)
2 units spoiled over a span of how long?
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9yrs.

My actual encounter is 3 unit spoiled include the office unit. That is 11 yrs.

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