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post Aug 20 2013, 02:14 PM

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For cruising average speed, that would mean you are not getting out of breath with each round of pedaling.

My average on Tern P18 is about 22 km/h I think. I have to do some more testing. If you can sustain the average max speed and at the same time, you can carry on a conversation with a friend without sounding out of breath, then you can be cruising along for quite a long time.

Perhaps the Putrajaya roads would be a good area to test this average speed, elsewhere in PJ and KL, there are too many traffic lights and slopes to climb to be be cycling at a constant speed.

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QUOTE(gilbertlhl @ Aug 20 2013, 01:59 PM)
Its mean if 20" wheel with large chainring(55T) and with the same pedaling speed, we might have same speed as 26" or 700cc??
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haiya... this thing has been discussed to death already...

just use this calculator... all kira kau kau for u to compare puas puas....... laugh.gif

http://www.machars.net/bikecalc.htm
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post Aug 20 2013, 02:17 PM

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Sam, ur 25km/h is for how long..??


That's roughly about 20-25mins non-stop...

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Sam how much is this stand?


Last I checked, about RM180 at Rodalink..

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actualy i wana buy knog cyclocomputer nerd
but last time i go spv subang they dont have it
i wonder if vans having them
myb in nex month shoping i guess
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Invest on a Cateye.. Knogs are useless...

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I use this for data logging..

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All the ride stats can be uploaded for further analysis..

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Its mean if 20" wheel with large chainring(55T) and with the same pedaling speed, we might have same speed as 26" or 700cc??


Well, if you have the cycling prowess of Alberto Contador, Cadel Evans, Bradley Wiggins & Chris Froome, can sapu any road bike and MTBs.. Hahahaha!!!!

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post Aug 20 2013, 02:26 PM

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haiya... this thing has been discussed to death already...

just use this calculator... all kira kau kau for u to compare puas puas.......


Easy on the newbie la bro.. hahahah!! biggrin.gif

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For cruising average speed, that would mean you are not getting out of breath with each round of pedaling.

My average on Tern P18 is about 22 km/h I think. I have to do some more testing. If you can sustain the average max speed and at the same time, you can carry on a conversation with a friend without sounding out of breath, then you can be cruising along for quite a long time.

Perhaps the Putrajaya roads would be a good area to test this average speed, elsewhere in PJ and KL, there are too many traffic lights and slopes to climb to be be cycling at a constant speed.


If you are a seasoned rider, you can go on and on and on and on.. doing flats.. Running out of breath means that your heart is not properly conditioned to the physical strain..

That said, if you really want to test your average on climbing, cruising and speedworks, you should go to Genting Peras in Hulu Langat, Genting Sempah or KKB - Fraser's Hill...

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Hill climbs is the fastest way to get fit..

Sam
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QUOTE(gilbertlhl @ Aug 20 2013, 01:59 PM)
Its mean if 20" wheel with large chainring(55T) and with the same pedaling speed, we might have same speed as 26" or 700cc??
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ok la... aft kira kira... agak agak...

ur 20inch foldie with kojak... using 55x11 compare to

700x22c road bike with 50x11....

u oni loose bout 2km/h oni..... brows.gif

so how.. wana order the custom crank 60T from china... icon_idea.gif
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post Aug 20 2013, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(samosaurus @ Aug 20 2013, 02:26 PM)
Easy on the newbie la bro.. hahahah!! biggrin.gif
If you are a seasoned rider, you can go on and on and on and on.. doing flats.. Running out of breath means that your heart is not properly conditioned to the physical strain..

That said, if you really want to test your average on climbing, cruising and speedworks, you should go to Genting Peras in Hulu Langat, Genting Sempah or KKB - Fraser's Hill...

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Hill climbs is the fastest way to get fit..

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Damn, it looks like a neverending climbing. When climbing do we pedal as hard as possible or do we change to lowest gear and cycle slow and steady? Which one will be better off?
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post Aug 20 2013, 03:06 PM

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Damn, it looks like a neverending climbing. When climbing do we pedal as hard as possible or do we change to lowest gear and cycle slow and steady? Which one will be better off?


Dude, you seriously need to lay off your computer screen and go out to cycle more.. Haaahhaahaha!!!

That cyclist in the picture is my wife, she did the climb with a 9-speed bike...

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For hillworks, develop your cadence and once you get the rhythm right, no mountain will be high enough..

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post Aug 20 2013, 03:11 PM

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cyclists nowadays are fixated to speed... wats wrong with those guys doh.gif
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post Aug 20 2013, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Aug 20 2013, 03:11 PM)
cyclists nowadays are fixated to speed... wats wrong with those guys  doh.gif
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Depends on their bike usage..

If all they want is speed, can always get UCI license and take part in road races.. That way, can justify with a record and some medals on the wall as motivation..

There's always leisure cycling and other aspects of cycling that are not speed-related.. Try bikepacking, bikecamping and touring..

Sam




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QUOTE(samosaurus @ Aug 20 2013, 03:17 PM)
Depends on their bike usage..

If all they want is speed, can always get UCI license and take part in road races.. That way, can justify with a record and some medals on the wall as motivation..

There's always leisure cycling and other aspects of cycling that are not speed-related.. Try bikepacking, bikecamping and touring..

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yeah... i mean there is no need for any acknowledgement... can't they jus enjoy the ride...

everywhere i turn.. it's people talking i was averaging this and that on that road.. and i was overtaking this slowpoke and that...

dude, not everything in this world is a competition... they are taking the fun out of riding a foldie... and i don't understand why they bought a foldie in the first place if they are talking about chasing down people riding road bikes and stuff...

a total smack in the head, this is sometimes..

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post Aug 20 2013, 04:07 PM

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Hi Guys,

Need your help, i'm interested on a java fit but when i called up to TBFS, VAN's or KSH, they don;t have it.

As for GW Bicycle, they do have but the price is not good (close to 1700). Some mandarin forum mentioned they can get in RM1400-1500 range.

Do you guys have any recommendation which shop i can try out?

Thanks
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QUOTE(dc_hunter @ Aug 20 2013, 04:07 PM)
Hi Guys,

Need your help, i'm interested on a java fit but when i called up to TBFS, VAN's or KSH, they don;t have it.

As for GW Bicycle, they do have but the price is not good (close to 1700). Some mandarin forum mentioned they can get in RM1400-1500 range.

Do you guys have any recommendation which shop i can try out?

Thanks
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Robyn said bought from sri petaling mar...
there minus the ksh got 2 other bike shop, as i know of...
or u can call up every bike shop by referring to the directory at lerun's website..


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post Aug 20 2013, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(dc_hunter @ Aug 20 2013, 04:07 PM)
Hi Guys,

Need your help, i'm interested on a java fit but when i called up to TBFS, VAN's or KSH, they don;t have it.

As for GW Bicycle, they do have but the price is not good (close to 1700). Some mandarin forum mentioned they can get in RM1400-1500 range.

Do you guys have any recommendation which shop i can try out?

Thanks
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Gainway at Klang do have Java Fit. The last I ask was about 2-3months ago. They are selling Rm1400-1500 ish
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post Aug 20 2013, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(H2D @ Aug 20 2013, 04:23 PM)
Robyn said bought from sri petaling mar...
there minus the ksh got 2 other bike shop, as i know of...
or u can call up every bike shop by referring to the directory at lerun's website..
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Thanks, just called to pedal sport they quoted me RM1650.
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QUOTE(dc_hunter @ Aug 20 2013, 04:37 PM)
Thanks, just called to pedal sport they quoted me RM1650.
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u check the volcano inspire oredi??

n yeah like adrian said, u wan cheaper... nid to go out further like klang... dengkil.. kajang... etc...

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post Aug 20 2013, 04:42 PM

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yeah... i mean there is no need for any acknowledgement... can't they jus enjoy the ride...

everywhere i turn.. it's people talking i was averaging this and that on that road.. and i was overtaking this slowpoke and that...

dude, not everything in this world is a competition... they are taking the fun out of riding a foldie... and i don't understand why they bought a foldie in the first place if they are talking about chasing down people riding road bikes and stuff...

a total smack in the head, this is sometimes..


Hahaha!!! New riders la.. Haven't found their niche yet..

Changing tires, wheelset, groupset, add crank and chainring as big as a scooter wheel to climb coconut trees, put everything carbon fibre on the folding bike, won't change anything if you are an unfit cyclist.

Folding bikes are for people who want to take things easy. Some bikes are made to perform and go "fast", but how fast? Well, the bike is as good as the cyclist la..

Based on experience, most newcomer who gets a folding bike and wanted to go fast, overtake road bikes, superbikes, buses, trains and jet fighters would usually end up on a road bike or give up cycling entirely.. Macam tu la..

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Need your help, i'm interested on a java fit


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You are looking at the wrong places la.. Pedalspot near Taman Megah in SS2 carries Java Fit. Try www.pedalspot.com.my where you can get more information..
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post Aug 20 2013, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(adriankhoo153 @ Aug 20 2013, 04:27 PM)
Gainway at Klang do have Java Fit. The last I ask was about 2-3months ago. They are selling Rm1400-1500 ish
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Thanks Bro!!
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post Aug 20 2013, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(samosaurus @ Aug 20 2013, 04:42 PM)

You are looking at the wrong places la.. Pedalspot near Taman Megah in SS2 carries Java Fit. Try www.pedalspot.com.my where you can get more information..
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Thanks Bro... just called them and they quote me RM1650. Not sure that is the cheapest they can provide or not...
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post Aug 20 2013, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(H2D @ Aug 20 2013, 04:39 PM)
u check the volcano inspire oredi??

n yeah like adrian said, u wan cheaper... nid to go out further like klang... dengkil.. kajang... etc...
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Haven't look into the volcano yet...

U try b4? how was it?
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post Aug 20 2013, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(dc_hunter @ Aug 20 2013, 04:46 PM)
Thanks Bro... just called them and they quote me RM1650. Not sure that is the cheapest they can provide or not...
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Pedalspot is the distributor, they cannot match their dealers in terms of lowering their prices la...

Why Java Fit? hmm.gif

Sam

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