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 Folding Bicycles v2, Dahon, Tern, Java, Oribike, Bromptons

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post Aug 19 2013, 07:58 AM

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Have a ride with group of foldie that came to Setia Alam for joining Half Marathon New Balance route. 21km in total. Damn, lots of them riding poisonous bike! There is two Mouton to start with. Pauline Lee who are the organizer with her touring Moulton which she get it from Melbourne. She even have a Brompton. Then there is a guy from Kota Kemuning also with his shiny chrome Moulton!

Then there is a few Bike Friday. The highlight is a custom made Wheelsport foldie. The rider are actually a Taiwanese couple and the guy is the designer for Wheelsport! Some say he own Wheelsport too.

Another white bike looks like Airnimal foldie. There is also Vanesnesa and Brian from Vans Urban riding a Tern P9 and Link C7.

What an event! Just when I thought it is just a normal foldie event and turned up to be such a glamorous folding bike. There I am with my humble Raleigh Ugo. Very malu lah. Hahaha

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Very nice event.. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Aug 19 2013, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(etigge @ Aug 19 2013, 09:07 AM)
We just ride with what we can afford. Most important is to have fun and also sweat out a bit at the same time. After so long I still ride my humble Dahon Eco C7 and so does my wife. It's fine with me, even from Kuala Kubu Bahru to Fraser's Hill and a friend of mine rides the Kalaq  tongue.gif  also can reach Fraser's Hill. It's the engine that's important.  icon_rolleyes.gif

Feeling inferior seeing others in expensive bikes is usual but feeling proud and arrogant seeing others in cheaper bikes is also usual. But feeling dissapointed when failing to catch up with the inferior bikes is even more pronounced! Hahahaha. tongue.gif
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The bike there are awesome. Take very little effort for them on hill climbing and pedaling. I can see the different between a powerhorse and a entry level folding bike. The normal cruising speed is about 25kmh. drool.gif
My passion towards a foldie is burning high. Lusting for more power. brows.gif

Hmm, am thinking of Tern P9 perhaps? icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 19 2013, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(budgee @ Aug 19 2013, 09:36 AM)
Ya,  my cruising speed is from 22 to 28 km/hour....  on well rested legs.. heh heh..
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U r on Tern P9?
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post Aug 19 2013, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(budgee @ Aug 19 2013, 09:39 AM)
almost similar, but with more gears ...  Tern verge p18
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Wow, expensive bike! thumbup.gif
Btw, where go u get your bike from?
Any place selling better price for Tern other than Rodalink or Vans Urban?
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post Aug 19 2013, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(budgee @ Aug 19 2013, 09:40 AM)
When we see other bikes better than ours, we just admire lah.  But no one can claim his bike to be the best, as there will always be someone with a better bike or perceived higher value bike.  The key word is perception.
If you think your bike is good, it is good.

We do what we can with our limited money, lah.  If you can afford it, go for it.  But not at the expense of our daily necessities or future needs like life savings, children's education, medical expenses.

Have you seen the type of bikes that most Dutch people ride?  It is mostly functional, it just gets you from A to B.  Their bike carriers can be made of discarded wooden boxes.  Not glamourous, high specs or what.
Their bikes are Practical! Which means their bikes are saving them money for other uses, instead of them spending more money on their bikes....  heh heh.

And this makes sense to me.  I have two bikes.  One is Tern - that one for weekend rides and occasionally ride from PJ to KL to work.  The other one I use amost daily  - an old bike (24 inch steel and very rusty bike) to the LRT station, lock and park it there for free.  My car is parked at friend's house for minimum charge, still got to pay lah.
Ride about 2 km to LRT.    So I save parking of RM3 and save some petrol going to the LRT worth about RM1.  I get some exercise too and for that I put a value of about RM0.50 (instead of going to the Gym which costs me RM3 a day, whether I use the gym or not)

Daily savings of RM4.50 is RM22.50 a week.  And as it comes to RM90 a month can pay for my phone bill already..

So what do I think of my 24" run down bike and with almost all the spokes are rusty?  To me it is a tool that is PUTTING money in my pocket.

What do other people think of my bike?  It is run down and needs to be put in the scrap yard.

Nevermind what other people think lah, then ..    what you think is more important, right?
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Nicely said bro..nicely said.. notworthy.gif
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post Aug 19 2013, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(etigge @ Aug 19 2013, 10:51 AM)
Tern P9 is a good choice.  thumbup.gif  Speed is about your stamina and also how hard can you pedal. Also your bike's weight is crucial too. If you want speed in your folding bike, Dahon Dash is good and if you can still find the Hammerhead which is sub 10 kg, you found gold! thumbup.gif The Kinetix Pro rims is a standard feature of the Hammerhead.

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When I was coming down from Genting Peras, at the kampong flats, me and wife also can do 25km/h to 27 km/h average and so did a few more on the Dahon MU P8, KHS F20 even the Kalaq, in addition to mine and wife's Dahon Eco C7. But the point is we know it's only another 10 km run till the coffee shop, but can we go further??? It's endurance also. How long can we last pedalling at high gear? We also need to pace ourselves, know the route well or find out about the route.

Reminds me of a story my friend told me. There was this jamboree trip and there was a thousand riders. As with Jamboree riders, MOST don't know the route and were never well prepared. So the ride started and my friend who knew the route well was starting slowly and his riding companion ask him to hurry. He said, " No worries, with the pace they started off, most won't finish". And he was right, only a small group lasted till the end. Just like the Penang round island ride, half way, most of them were on the municipal lorries.  tongue.gif  Still the best is riding constantly and increasing your speed as you get used to it. A good training is Putrajaya. In the beginning, I started with using the whole range of the 7 speed. Eco C7 is a 7 speed bike. Then after a few rides, i never used the largest 2 cog. Now, I don't shift at all, maintaining at 52T X 13T, eventhough I have 27 speed.  It's never about the bike, it all your own's capability.

I will give a good tip for those who are not really into upgrades. Upgrading a front crank is expensive, we all know it. What you can do is , change the front crank to double, like 50/39 or better still 50/36, very ideal compromise. (can get second hand ones in BBS) Other than that, nothing else. If you ride mainly on flats, use the bigger crank and if on trips to Genting Sempah, Genting Peras or Fraser's Hill, manually shift the chain to the lower ring and used that for the whole trip.

Last week another rider kaki of mine bought a KHS F20. It was actually an 8 speeder but the shop has added a double crank to the bike making it 16 speed. He got it for 1.5K from GW cycle (give and take a little, depending on how good your bargaining power is  tongue.gif ). It's light, much lighter than my Eco C7 and it's fast too. I hear there's another importer for KHS somewhere in Klang and some say it's cheaper than FB Bikes and GW. Check it out.

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Thanks for the precious tips bro. I think for now I am gonna cycle a lil bit longer with my Raleigh and from there on, will only think bout getting another bike for myself.
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QUOTE(gilbertlhl @ Aug 19 2013, 02:28 PM)
Just wonder what setting on their bike.? frint 56T back 11T?
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Their bike? I heard 42T with 24 speed with Moulton TSR.

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QUOTE(budgee @ Aug 19 2013, 02:57 PM)
Definitely will make a difference.

The tires should be the skinny slick type, pump it up hard 70 to 80 psi.  Acceleration also faster because these tires are lighter.
see the racing bikes and what tires they use...  ultremo, durano
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But if I were to change I would buy BA. Can go offroad a bit lor. If Kojak or Durano etc will virate too hard. Ass also pain. But of course they are fast lah.
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QUOTE(samosaurus @ Aug 19 2013, 12:32 PM)
Hahaha!!!! Kesian... Don't let that shiny Moulton intimidate you.. Its probably brought out for parade on social rides.. hahaha!!! BTW, the owner, Finty, he started with a Dahon Speed P8.

Setia Alam is orang kaya township la bro, so, Van cycles also very smart in placing their store there.. Strategic... You will meet people where "money is no object", but with Orang Kaya in this case, they would only go for social rides la.. Tayang basikal.. hahaha! Anything more than that, too "hard" for them la..

People who really ride their foldies, tak kira specs and class. They don't even have time to lepak in bike shops, and all they crave is the "next big adventure", so, that said, jangan kecik hati, keep on riding!

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Ride you foldie in good health!

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Do u mean the guy with chrome moulton name is Finty?
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post Aug 19 2013, 03:16 PM

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Actually I see a lot part reduce weight etc that cost a bomb to upgrade. Is it really worth the upgrade? I mean when my 1ltr bottle water on full, it already weight almost 1kg but I dun feel any weight 'reduction' when by the time I almost drink it all? Some part save as 'much' as 200g etc but I mean, really any different?

If add up all and let u reduce 1kg, will u feel the different when u cycle? If really yes is the anwer, then I think reducing your weight will be more better.

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QUOTE(Frostlord @ Aug 19 2013, 03:21 PM)
hi all

im looking for a foldie. anyone can recommend any good foldie?

i only use it occasionally, so a basic specs will do smile.gif
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And what is your budget?
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QUOTE(Frostlord @ Aug 19 2013, 03:30 PM)
im getting 2 of them. so roughly 1.5k for 2?
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U can either get a china brand name Xds which come with a better component but I recommend you to get Raleigh Ugo instead. Try to search around.
RRP at RM900 but most shop selling it for RM700 rclxms.gif

Btw, i am using Raleigh Ugo too. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(samosaurus @ Aug 19 2013, 03:45 PM)
Yup

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Ohh, icic. I yumcha with him and we talk bout foldie such as AM and Bromtification thingy that morning but didn't know his name. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(earl-ku @ Aug 19 2013, 03:44 PM)
Anything less than 1k each...go bike shop just choose color...
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Dun be too harsh bro.. It's not like it's a hardtail mtb which u only choose colour.
Below Rm1k foldie u still can choose either 7 or 8 speed gear, steel or alum body, and can even get Dahon Vybe C7S nod.gif
And yes, i forgot LGS Pop. A nice folding bike too with 8 speed bike. Cost a little more than Raleigh at Rm850. Raleigh Ugo my cousin just get it at Melaka at RM680 which is a steal. I got mine at Setia Alam at Rm700.
If u fancy some replica and nice design, u can get Hummer replica at Rm850 too.

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QUOTE(samosaurus @ Aug 19 2013, 03:57 PM)
Alamak...

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Well, Finty is one of those guys who are very humble... Even after all these years, he never lagak sombong.. A true gem among the Brommie and Moultonists in Malaysia..

SAm
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Yes yes, he is the guy.. Very down to earth and humble talking guy. Not cocky at all. Another gem is Pauline which is also very humble and nice to talk to. I know Pauline first as we did weekly riding at Setia Alam.
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QUOTE(Frostlord @ Aug 19 2013, 04:08 PM)
ic ic.. thanks bro

will check the shop in citta mall for it this weekend.

do you recommend any store in KV? tongue.gif
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Nope, i dun have any preference so far.
Hence u can buy at any shop which offer cheaper pricetag.
Of course, it's better to buy near your house as if there is any problem, just cycle there to do it.
There will be on and off adjustment need to be done and fine tune at the gear when newly bought.
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How do u guy wash your bike when it's very dirty like kena mud etc? Can jes use sprinkle hose and spray it on the bike all over or kena lap lap? I mean u spray the water onto the gear, chain etc got any problem ah?
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QUOTE(samosaurus @ Aug 20 2013, 02:26 PM)
Easy on the newbie la bro.. hahahah!! biggrin.gif
If you are a seasoned rider, you can go on and on and on and on.. doing flats.. Running out of breath means that your heart is not properly conditioned to the physical strain..

That said, if you really want to test your average on climbing, cruising and speedworks, you should go to Genting Peras in Hulu Langat, Genting Sempah or KKB - Fraser's Hill...

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Hill climbs is the fastest way to get fit..

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Damn, it looks like a neverending climbing. When climbing do we pedal as hard as possible or do we change to lowest gear and cycle slow and steady? Which one will be better off?
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QUOTE(dc_hunter @ Aug 20 2013, 04:07 PM)
Hi Guys,

Need your help, i'm interested on a java fit but when i called up to TBFS, VAN's or KSH, they don;t have it.

As for GW Bicycle, they do have but the price is not good (close to 1700). Some mandarin forum mentioned they can get in RM1400-1500 range.

Do you guys have any recommendation which shop i can try out?

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Gainway at Klang do have Java Fit. The last I ask was about 2-3months ago. They are selling Rm1400-1500 ish
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QUOTE(dc_hunter @ Aug 20 2013, 04:44 PM)
Thanks Bro!!
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Did u call Gainway? How much do they give u?

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