from handlepost. the sound exist since day one but the shop ask me to ride more wait for the bearing "season" first. but the more i ride the louder sound out and so far i have done more than 100km for my ride and it not improving but getting worst

I think its same problem with mine. Need to tighten the clamp nut more, so that when you unfold the handlepost that time, it takes quite a lot of effort to lock it. Then problem should be solved.

newbie here

Peharps u could tell u more on your ride or plan to get a foldie, etc etc for introduction.

Hmm, so mahal bike also ada sound? Even cheapo Ugo also no sound.. Hehe..

Still finding my time to go your place to have upgrade the sealed hub, bb etc and some checking and servicing..

Haha.. that is quite a quick response!

Actually i m planning to get a foldie to commute from house to office. Basically from Jalan Genting Klang to Jalan Tun Razak. All though it is only for work, but i foresee i might be using it to tour around and adventure, maybe with you guys one day.

Have been reading this thread and did some researches until i got myself blurred.

My budget is below 1000 but depends on whether the bike below that price possible to be upgraded later or not by adding parts. Else, i might need to increase my budget. Plus in looking into rigidity so it last longer and light at the same time.

Raleigh UGO seems attractive for the price of Rm650 (either from kajang or selayang). Dahon and Terns maybe better but too many range of models to choose (that is why i got blurred). Prolly need to visit those shops one day

Basically, no one bike is perfect cos maybe there is one or two thing need to tolerate but hopefully can find the best fit me.

In dilemma now.. lol..

Ugo with RM650 price is consider a valuable buy. Myself riding one. So far so good.
If branded, go for Dahon basic one which is Dahon Vybe C7. Price below RM1k.
Better still get basic Tern Link C7 which will cost you somewhere RM1.3k ish..

your Ugo comes with carry bag or not?

nope.. come with no accessories.. Not even a damn bottle cage

Alamak.... Kesian.....

Dude, you brought your bike straight out of the box and clocked-in 100km in two days. Admirable.

Ever heard of "breaking-in" the bike????

"Creaks" and twisting sound is common on new bikes. The factory pressed bearing cone is still "tight" and was not properly "seated" inside the headset. Give it some time to break-in and if the problem still persists, then it warrants a thorough check-up..

When you have sky-high expectations, you tend to be overzealous about the bike's performance.. Take it one step at a time.. Even a new road bike needs to be properly seasoned before it actually goes on a road race..



Hahahah!!! Master Wong, master Wong.. Don't be too harsh on the Terns..

Personally-speaking, the upgrade from a Java to Tern Link P9 was too drastic in a short period..

Not only that, the bike is going for this weekend's Sapura-Kencana SIC road race, even more shocking considering the fact that the rider is a beginner..

Yes, the Link P9 does have its flaw. The 9-speed drivetrain, like I mentioned it in my review, has the tendency to experience chaindrop..

And 2012 Speed P8 where got old? Try a vintage year like 2008, now, that would be a real score!

From a design perspective, the Speed P8 and Link P9 are two different bikes.

If you are able to get a Speed P8 from 2008 & 2010, that would be a bonus because these are the best there is from Dahon (Ritchey handlebar, Sugino crank, Kinetic comp wheelset). Even Joshua Hon who was then with Dahon admitted that the Speed series was one of the best bikes he had ever designed..

As we are speaking, the Link platform bikes from Tern are still undergoing some improvements. So, all those "creaking" sound issue, I can understand it being annoying. Chain drop causing injuries.. Now, that is a serious issue that needs to be addressed immediately..

Sam

This post has been edited by samosaurus: Sep 30 2013, 05:09 PM

aik,,, i tot he got 2010 model.....

Hahahaha!!!! 2011 and above are all China-made frames..

Sam

Keep on cycling ! Where your bicycles are made does not matter so much.

What matters most, to me anyway, is that I spend more time on my saddle taking in the scenery and enjoying the friendships that I make along the way.

Every now and then, taking a pause to stop and stare, just to admire, whatever it is, ... could be an old building still standing tall and grand, a relic of the glorious past, could be a beautiful sunset, or a kingfisher waiting for the right time to dive to end up with a satisfying catch from the river, an exuberant caricature drawn along public walls for one and all to enjoy, or a flock of migratory birds flying in formation overhead, with a distinct leader of the pack. Could also be the well seasoned and worn out face of a senior citizen, waiting out her days, sitting by the pavement, with stories to tell that go far before the second world war...


just keep on cycling...

I had a good look at the Tern's handle post design and it is different from Dahons. I don't know why but it seems the Dahon's design are more solid. The Tern's ( for Link's P9 that is) the fork is mounted together with the handlepost via the star nut. It's the similar way on how mountain bikes fork are attached to the stem which holds the handlebar. The mountain bike's steerer tube is long and it protudes out the headset embedded in the head tube of the bike and clasp by the stem. In this case the stem is horizontally mounted or the most at a 30 degree angle. As for the Tern's case, the same way the steerer tube protudes out and clasped by the handle post and held in place with the nut and star nut embedded into the steerer tube. Problem here is, unlike the mountain bike stem which is horizontal and short, the folding bikes is at vertical and almost 18 inches long. When you ride, the stress that your handling againts the bar is tremendous. The long handle post acts like a lever and the stress point is where the clasp and star nut is which is acting like a fulcrum. It must be really strong here to withstand the stress.

Here's the fault that was found! The star nut that was hammered in or forced in and there was a little free play there. Although it looks tight but it actually isn't until you put force into it. When you tighten it too much, the headset bearing is squashed tight and it is too stiff to turn. Release it a bit, it becomes loose and hence the creaking sound when stressed! I had 'robyn' ride to a bike shop here nearby to buy another star nut and this was also forced into the steerer tube and a longer Allen bolt is used to holds both the star nut. It was tightened until the desired tightness, how free you want the handlebar to turn. Then there's 2 Allen bolts which clasped the steerer tube that protudes out. This also must be tighten in tandem. A quarter turn top and another quarter turn down and so on until it is tighten evenly. This will tighten the clasp evenly because if one is tighten very tight, the lower or upper part will not be able to clasp evenly, making it holding on one bolt only. The ride is totally different after putting in double star nuts.

It's not much of a design flaw and they are simple faults but one must also understand the customer's feelings. I mean you paid 2 over 'K' for something and you don't feel satisfied and then get thrown around on who's responsible for warranty! Finally as I said before, if you depend on LeRun for warranty, better buy from China direct! I had a good experience and also learn something new and I thanked 'robyn' for it. Also got a good 'nasi kandar' too.

Thank you. Then I will keep a lookout for those vintage models. But I doubt one can ever find it locally though. Those years mentioned I was too engrossed throwing a wok in a kitchen to fend for my two kids. If you tell me about Gary Fisher, Ellsworth, Santa Cruz or even Giant I might know as I been mountain biking during years before Y2K. As a consolation, I am quite happy to get the Dahon Speed P8, even the 2012 model as compared to Link D8, the speed has better (rims WTBs double walled compare to single walled), tires ( Schwalbe Big Apples compared to Citizen), seat post ( very handy with the pump as well), brake sets (Avid brake levers and nicer V-brakes arms), better crank ( FSA tempo compared to don't know what brand), cassette ( Shimano HG compared to Sunrace ) and even the RD ( Neos compared to Suntours, but both also needs to be changed anyway ). All this for the same price. For a itchy handed rider like me, I still save a lot!

This post has been edited by etigge: Oct 1 2013, 05:22 AM

great share!
if with pics will help more ppl to understand...

looks like it is just not being properly assembled and fine tuned..
so the bike shop should and 'must' be able to/try to solve this issue....
oredi paid so much for the bike...

mana bike shop ni??

This post has been edited by H2D: Sep 30 2013, 11:13 PM

I'm totally understand the breaking-in for bearing, breaks and etc. But in my case it was too over, i really wish you were riding with me yesterday on the Fraser hill trip. We have around 10 people in the group with Dahon, KHS, Tern, Raleigh, Kalaq and "ayam" brand folding bike. Everyone also surprise on your so call "break-in" sound so loud and obvious non-stop all the way from KKB to Fraser Hill (40KM). The situation is just like riding my grand grand grand grand parents bike !!! Everyone there did past through their so call break in period for but not like what i have so terrible !! Unless you tell me this is Tern's standard

Besides that, the 2 times chain drop really almost kill me. Can you imagine how dangerous it is ?? The chain also need break-in period ?

For expectation wise, i wouldn't expect P9 can give me superb performance, if i really concern in spec then 2.8k i can get alot of choices. To be honest, what is expect is a good frame with good folding mechanism, that's why i willing to downgrade from Java 16 speed to 9 speed and PAY more, because i want something more solid and safer frame and folding mechanism in a long run, but did i get that ?? Perhaps, yes but with chain drop killing experience and fantastic so call break-in sound

This post has been edited by Robyn: Sep 30 2013, 11:35 PM

bro other P9 owners oso have this problem....

frm tern forum..

http://www.ternbicycles.com/forum/link-p9-...alls-constantly

Johon reply - May 2012

"We’ve tested many Link P9’s and there isn’t a chain drop issue but obviously some of our customers do have an issue so we’re studying it and will have some recommendations soon. But number one is to have your dealer check and ensure that the chain keeper is adjusted properly."

comment frm owner..

"I've sent in my Link P9 to the dealer for adjustment.

The mechanic dismantled the outer CNC chain guard that is screwed to the chainring and bent it by hitting with a mallet and by hand to close the gap between the chain and the CNC chainguard.

Problem solved. After that, the chain never got derailed anymore.

One more thing, I cleaned the cassette and chain with a bike cleaner and lubricated the chain. After that, the ride became so much smoother. "

This post has been edited by H2D: Sep 30 2013, 11:40 PM

haih .. i sick of their warranty process la... the shop pass to dealer(Rodalink) then dealer pass me to HQ (Lerun). Great warranty process !!

and tried to register my bike at their website but the system say my service tag not valid need ot manual google and send email to tern to beg for warranty registration but end up is useless, because u will get "tai chi" here and there if u wanto claim warranty