guys, how was A7 performance?? in terms of ergonomically, weight, lens option, user interface and iso, speed, response... but not IQ.. I know IQ from full frame is drool..

You would need to head to your nearest sony centre to actually try it out yourself to answer those questions.

what you will really face is lens wobble/loos at mount.. It can be very easily fixed.. As a matter of fact... Sony lens also use the same way... a dab of epoxy on the bayonet mount.. In this case it will be on the adapter. You can fine tune it by trimming it with a sharp knife.

Unless your DOF is extremely shallow, I really cannot see how it will affect IQ. Unless you are using precision Macro lens or doing very FLAT copying then any tilt in the focal plane will be of any serious concern. Most normal lens do not have a really flat edge to edge reproduction capability (except some Macro lens eg Macro Nikkor 50mm). That is also why you are recommended to stop down to compensate for these inbuilt defects for most lens (prime).

You will face problems with loose adapters when using super telephoto. There lens are long and heavy and the tilt can be significant enough to be of concern. But you are using a FF lens on a APSC. You have still plenty of room and vignette will not be an issue unless.

IF you are using C mount lens then it will be an issue.

All these adapters are CNC or Loss wax casting or both. the accuracy is pretty good except for the slight more wobble in some.

Just tried it today. Light weight. Good size. Only thing that bothered me was the strap ear kept poking into my trigger finger.

EVF - I hate EVF but this one I like. Big and bright. Still not perfect but this is the best I've seen so far.

Fast AF and not as loud as ppl complained about.

This post has been edited by idoblu: Dec 7 2013, 10:54 PM

Yeah if it's not accurate on the a99 at f1.4 it shouldn't on the A7. How inaccurate is it? Because I really am hopeful (might just be a fantasy) to be able to use a small mirrorless set up (preferrably FF, like the a7) and be able to use just an MF lens (while waiting for more FE lenses to be available) for all my shooting since after like 4 years of photography, I realize that I almost never shoot sports or very very fast paced events (very rarely). MF-ing on an OVF DSLR is hard, but how about on an EVF?

Assuming you own an A99, is the EVF good enough to nail MF without magnification at apertures like f2.8?

I did try to MF with my old X-E1 before, but the EVF was so bad when it was low light + magnified view because it was sooo laggy. That was before peaking was released on fuji though.

Hi, thanks for replying. What's a C mount lens btw? Contax or Canon?

This article seems to show that there is loss of IQ with the use of adapters http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2013/09/th...3-lens-adapters

I don't fully understand the graph though, so I'm afraid I can fully interpret what it means.


About lens wobble, it wouldn't be evident with a light nifty fifty right? I'm planning to get a nikon 50mm f1.4 Ai if I were to get an a7, and I'm pretty sure f1.4 will produce a really shallow DOF :/ How will it affect IQ at larger apertures?

Also, while I understand that auto modes will not work with manual glass, will metering work?

This post has been edited by Decky: Dec 7 2013, 04:10 PM

C mount are mostly from 16mm movie camera.. look in that direction and you will get more data. There is also D mount if you want to be further distracted.

As for the test report... hahaha.. you want to split hair than you can go in that direction.. same goes to pixel peepers. Will a perfect adapter grantee each shot you take be a winner? Or is it more important you the photographer that determine the perfect shot? That is my 2 cents worth of answer.. I leave you to draw your own conclusions.

Yes the f1.4 will be shallow.. but how close are you shooting? at macro? What it really amount to is your focal plane will be tilted.. in the real world.. will it make such a difference.. like I mention earlier.. are you making replica flat copy ? Than it will be the critical requirement.. (even so, you can fix it by stepping down since Bokeh will not be the requirement). If you are shooting 3D objects.. it will not be that critical. Assuming it is out by a couple of microns as what the report highlighted.. you just have to tilt the camera accordingly? Why fret over the few microns and pay heaps for something you really cannot tell in the real world? With EVF, what you see is all you get.. so just spend a couple more seconds before you press the button?

Also, how often do you think you will want to shoot at f1.4? From my experience.. not often enough because you need extra time to make sure it is focus and frame at the place.. but results can be rewarding.

Metering will work.. only the Aperture setting will not show and need you to set it manually..

is a7 come with better bokeh performance compare to nex-7?

Ahh I think I understand now. In a perfect world, the focal plane is supposed to be parallel to the lens right? So due to the micro-shift due to the imperfections of the lens/adapter,the focal plane is not strictly parallel to the lens.

That shouldn't matter too much with MF and EVF as you say, but what about adapter brands? YL seems to be selling no name adapters for RM200, should I just get those (since the lenses that I will be using will have aperture rings already?)

I won't be shooting at f1.4 much, most probably at f2 for sharpness. But even then (using an FF dslr now), f2 on FF has a really shallow DoF.

That being said, many people have been expressing their happiness over the EVF and how they don't even need peaking for nailing focus. I went to two sony centres in Mid valley to see if I could try it out, but they put it behind glass doors T.T

Thanks for the help btw!

Correct. there are many cry babies out there seeking attention so dont get too distracted by the baby talk..

Get them from Ebay or Aliexpress.. that is where I get them. Brands?? makes no difference unless you are paying for branded ones. One option you may consider is some of them has mounting for tripod.. cost a bit more but take the stress off your camera body with heavy lens..

When I have the time and not in a hurry, I like to play with the shallow DOF of wide open lens too.. but for practical reasons, I find even f2 to be too shallow most of the time (for me) and get better results whith 5.6 esp in street shooting.

EVF do make focusing much easier..

I do street photography a lot with zone focussing either on 35mm or 24mm equivalent on nex6.The quick trick to zone focussing is your ability to estimate subject distance to your camera and muscle memory to shift focus accordingly.In short b4 you lift up your camera,your fingers should approximately dials in the focus distance on your lens.On evf check peaking to finetune and takes couple of frames in burst mode for critical focus.On f8 usually we don't bother to check focus at all as long as subject correspond to pre-determined focus distance.Any wider apertures is to pre-focus for subject to come into framing position or just take a leap of faith with peaking.Sucess rates very much dependent on muscle memory with your lens focus dial and pre-visualizing your camera framing.

Anyone bought lens from lazada before? Found sel1670z quite cheap but dunno can be trusted or not.

Link: http://www.lazada.com.my/import-sony-sel16...-f4-490021.html

Local warranty and COD available, why not?

thanks bro. just placed order. Thanks for highlighting cod.. didnt notice that.. haha.

as i know, this lens had comes along with lens case. that link doesn't mention of lens case included in this lens package

This post has been edited by vincentlee90: Dec 8 2013, 01:44 AM

Hi guys sorry for the noob question, is there uv filter can fit in for kit lens sel1650?

There is.. the diameter is mark on the lens itself.. and it is odd size. You may consider getting a step up adapter so that you can share filters with your other lens.. (if you have any)..

I got a brand new B+W UV Haze filter for this lens if you are interested, pm me

For users of a7 & a7r, Key Color Mid Valley already stocking up the batt. grip if u are interested. Price is around RM900. Go to other shops you will not find it since Key Color appointed by Sony to distribute early.

Anyone here into macro photography? Can recommend good filter? Anyone using Raynox?