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 The SONY (FF & APS-C) E-Mount Thread ver. 5, Full-Frame A7 & A7R Released Malaysia!

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rubrubrub
post Jul 18 2014, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(ry.tan9119 @ Jul 18 2014, 12:19 AM)
so what? A3000 cannot produce good picture? ur brain really GeArFrEaK !!!
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then why argue with him? let it go

QUOTE(edpaul @ Jul 18 2014, 12:27 AM)
wahhhh this very hard to answer la... its something you learn along the way...

for those famous famous photo, its really hard to point out WHY they are good...

basically there is several ways how a photo can be famous....

Some are taken by someone famous, he, has wider exposure to larger circle of people, and spreading starts...

Some are backed by big marketing company that can give better exposure to your work.

Some, are because the photo itself are so good, that it speaks for itself and later make the photographer famous.

and many other ways. so, im sorry i cant really help you out coz i dont know the answer directly to the question.
but if you wan to learn how to improve your own portraits, yea there are many advise online, forum discussion, magazines, books, online albums(flickr, deviant art, etc)... instead of all about portrait, i would suggest "in the eye of the photographer" (or something) by micheal freeman (i think).... i like the way how he explain the composition... the way he see the 'feng sui' or the 'flow' and show in the book easily understand.
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Thanks for the recommendation. i'm digesting a couple of books about light and post processing (photoshop, lightroom and etc.)

then another question to pique your brain. how important is post processing in creating a beautiful image?
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post Jul 18 2014, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(nlik @ Jul 18 2014, 12:46 AM)
Yea.. agree.. tech keep moving on. photographs are timeless , so with all the ingredients NEX-3 today can still give impactful pics
Yea, I guess the complete photographer is a package of  skills, tools, experience, attitude, communication, marketing, physical ability, eye. Sad to hear you happen to get an unbalanced photographer .
I'd agree. FF and APS-C has their own segment and use.         
Hmm... if i was allowed to briefly say.. 

Cannot argue lens.. cause there's equivalent for both FF and APS-C.
Cannot argue on size.. cause A7 just as small as some APS-c bodies.

Really in short.. IMHO... it's whether the photographer wants reach (crop factor you need), Price or DOF and high iso. 
Otherwise FF and APS-C, i think it's the same.

Yea..I really think that the complete photographer is a package of  skills, tools, experience, attitude, communication, physical ability, eye and creativity; not just a single element.
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post Jul 18 2014, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(rubrubrub @ Jul 18 2014, 12:47 AM)

then another question to pique your brain. how important is post processing in creating a beautiful image?
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Can you handle the truth?

My answer is: IT'S IMPORTANT.
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post Jul 18 2014, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(rubrubrub @ Jul 18 2014, 12:47 AM)
then why argue with him? let it go
Thanks for the recommendation. i'm digesting a couple of books about light and post processing (photoshop, lightroom and etc.)

then another question to pique your brain. how important is post processing in creating a beautiful image?
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faints~

it does helps to improve the impact of a photo....

is it important? depend on your original photo need fixing or not, need boosting or not. most new DLSR today has feature to boost contrast and saturation, some with build in HDR mode etc... some straight out jpeg can be stunning nice too~

most professional photo, geo nat, fashion, sport(commercially), artist all went through strict post processing. one of my friend in my town does PP for Fashion/Portrait Photographers... each edited photo are charged at USD40-50. (which is cheap in the market) he got a lot customer from australia and europe... sorry i went a little off topic.

i must admit, it does help, and it considered creating lies....

there are two type of postprocessing.
i) Darkroom processing (for negative) and Lightroom processong (For positive) are the same thing just diff sources. they allows your to adjust behavior within the film(negative) digital raw(positive) limit.

so Adobe Lightroom or Raw editor programs are consider acceptable post-processing for those strict no editing contest entries. stuff like, exposure, contrast, saturation, vignetting, lens barrel/pincushion correction, CA correction, curve, black and white, hue, clarity(this function is still in debate)

ii) manipulating Post processing, aka Photoshopped. is where you remove stuff from photo, or add stuff to photo. eg, adding flocks of birds into the river... is totally illegal in contest entries (unless it states accepts photoshop or no editing limit).....

so, which category of post processing you refering? tongue.gif myself also dizzy liao since u ask such deep question...
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post Jul 18 2014, 03:44 AM

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QUOTE(ry.tan9119 @ Jul 18 2014, 12:19 AM)
so what? A3000 cannot produce good picture? ur brain really GeArFrEaK !!!
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Haha, tat is funny.
1st, I not interest wat gear u using, n I not even know wat gear u using?
2nd, how come u can printscreen tat statement? But I never said such thing? Got ppl hack into my acc?

Btw, is not important, just feel strange, how come such thing posted by my acc but not I saying?
I not even know u n new to Sony section, how I gonna know u using a3000? I not even know wat model is tat. I only know nex series n A7 series. Haha, strange. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(ry.tan9119 @ Jul 18 2014, 12:19 AM)
so what? Nex5R can produce good picture? All lowyat boys really GeArFrEaK !!!
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Or u just simply change my statement when u doing the quotation?
"Like wat I showing above, u can simply edit ppl statements"

Haha. U r smart man. Change my words to raise supporters. notworthy.gif
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post Jul 18 2014, 03:58 AM

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QUOTE(ry.tan9119 @ Jul 18 2014, 12:19 AM)
so what? A3000 cannot produce good picture? ur brain really GeArFrEaK !!!
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Haha. Anyway, I going to leave it since I not active in Sony section also. Just come see see for tis two days since I bought 10-18mm. Btw, becareful of this new member. U can argue with others but dun do things so tricky. Just a forum, no need act tricky man. Haih, really shock me got so tricky ppl.
If I got attack A3000 user, so many ppl sure will notice, but not few hours after only ppl realise. Haha.
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post Jul 18 2014, 09:26 AM

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To be honest, for all the differences the bodies offered, I cared about lenses more.

Someone mentioned post process? I tried some in different applications, all shot with NEX-6:

Sunset
Toy Mode from camera, vignet and center brightness increase.
Used SELP1650
user posted imageDSC08170 by bdrc, on Flickr

Infrared mode
Adjusted tone and masked with different channels.
Used SELP1650
user posted imageDSC01300 by bdrc, on Flickr

Scarlet
Composite image of two photos I took with red filters and hue adjustment.
Using 16mm f/2.8 + fisheye adapter and 75-300mm + LEA-EA2
user posted imageScarlet moon by bdrc, on Flickr

Railgun
Added lightning brushes.
Using Nikkor 50mm f1.4 D
user posted imageDSC02087ss by bdrc, on Flickr



This post has been edited by bdrc: Jul 18 2014, 09:33 AM
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post Jul 18 2014, 09:30 AM

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Wah... Blood moon eclipse..
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post Jul 18 2014, 09:48 AM

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Condolences n hope for a rebirth to a better existence for MH17 passengers.
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post Jul 18 2014, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(bdrc @ Jul 18 2014, 09:26 AM)
To be honest, for all the differences the bodies offered, I cared about lenses more.

Someone mentioned post process? I tried some in different applications, all shot with NEX-6:

Sunset
Toy Mode from camera, vignet and center brightness increase.
Used SELP1650
user posted imageDSC08170 by bdrc, on Flickr

Infrared mode
Adjusted tone and masked with different channels.
Used SELP1650
user posted imageDSC01300 by bdrc, on Flickr

Scarlet
Composite image of two photos I took with red filters and hue adjustment.
Using 16mm f/2.8 + fisheye adapter and 75-300mm + LEA-EA2
user posted imageScarlet moon by bdrc, on Flickr

Railgun
Added lightning brushes.
Using Nikkor 50mm f1.4 D
user posted imageDSC02087ss by bdrc, on Flickr
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nice picture, bro

This post has been edited by vincentlee90: Jul 18 2014, 11:41 AM
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post Jul 18 2014, 11:42 AM

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some photo taken with Nikon 4500 for comparison.. it cost more than what I have paid for the A6000 today!! It was my transition camera from Film to Digital.. and having to cope with auto focus.

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user posted imageaDSCN0743 by chin_w_y, on Flickr

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user posted imageaDSCN3596 by chin_w_y, on Flickr

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user posted imageaDSCN3505 by chin_w_y, on Flickr
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post Jul 18 2014, 12:01 PM

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Start a new thread. It is more than 2.5k posts

And to those who bickers around here, i'll let this one off. Next time i see any reports on you guys, i'll send you off to borabora for you to take pics
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post Jul 18 2014, 05:04 PM

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Link to new thread. Sony Alpha E/EF mount V6 please do not reply here anymore. Thanks

This post has been edited by edpaul: Jul 18 2014, 05:05 PM
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post Jul 20 2014, 12:30 PM

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Thanks edpaul, I'll send you the user list and codes today. smile.gif

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