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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX Rojak Thread V49, Poor people car everyday need to fix

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mengsuan
post Aug 19 2013, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(Alphabet Mulia @ Aug 19 2013, 10:36 AM)
Can we change from D to L if the speed is >90 kph? I'm not sure la, in manual it stated sumting likes L is for if drive ~25kph only. Or is i mistaken sumting.
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Lol. CVT maybe can la. Please don't try on 4AT
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post Aug 19 2013, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Aug 19 2013, 10:46 AM)
Lol. CVT maybe can la. Please don't try on 4AT
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Shifting down from D to L when going at 90 ... shocking.gif shocking.gif
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post Aug 19 2013, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(abijiu @ Aug 19 2013, 10:54 AM)
Shifting down from D to L when going at 90 ...  shocking.gif  shocking.gif
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Should be able to see smoke after downshift.. blink.gif blink.gif
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post Aug 19 2013, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 19 2013, 10:44 AM)
I won't recommend doing it when you're going more than 100kph....I also won't recommend doing it often above 60kph.

Most of the time if I want instant torque I just activate SAT and tekan kuat skit to induce downshift.
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thanks bro. will try to avoid doing dat.
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Aug 19 2013, 10:46 AM)
Lol. CVT maybe can la. Please don't try on 4AT
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last time i changed to L @90kph. luckily nothing bad happen.
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QUOTE(DonMe @ Aug 19 2013, 11:23 AM)
Should be able to see smoke after downshift..  blink.gif  blink.gif
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i didnt noticed any smokes after doing dat. but 1st tym la. will not do dat again.
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post Aug 19 2013, 11:51 AM

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i only do from L to D when car jsut start moving on slopes. My housing area here got a few slopes on traffic light. Thats why i am asking bout it just now.
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post Aug 19 2013, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(abijiu @ Aug 19 2013, 11:51 AM)
i only do from L to D when car jsut start moving on slopes. My housing area here got a few slopes on traffic light. Thats why i am asking bout it just now.
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I tarik L from standstill all the way to 100 kph thumbup.gif
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post Aug 19 2013, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 19 2013, 12:03 PM)
I tarik L from standstill all the way to 100 kph  thumbup.gif
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how long does it take to reach 100kph?
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post Aug 19 2013, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Aug 19 2013, 12:08 PM)
notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
how long does it take to reach 100kph?
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12s sleep.gif
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post Aug 19 2013, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 19 2013, 12:09 PM)
12s sleep.gif
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post Aug 19 2013, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 19 2013, 12:03 PM)
I tarik L from standstill all the way to 100 kph  thumbup.gif
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lagi sadis. lol.
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post Aug 19 2013, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 19 2013, 12:09 PM)
12s sleep.gif
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12s? so gooding~~!!
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post Aug 19 2013, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 18 2013, 08:47 PM)
I don't think OBD2 can output actual HP figure leh (HP figures from OBD2 are derived from torque, which requires you to type in the weight of the car including the driver....that might be tricky  hmm.gif )

Besides 70++hp on flywheel is a bit low on an engine that is factory rated 108hp  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Aug 18 2013, 09:00 PM)
70HP on wheel is quite reasonable for auto Persona. I think I've heard one who did dyno get something like 70+?
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Flywheel output should be higher than WHP because it takes out the lost of power in the transmission phase. Dyno machines also will give you different figures like DynoDynamics read 13% less than Dynojet. And hud dyno and rolling dyno also gives you different readings but I prefer a rolling dyno since it takes in the rolling resistance like in actual when you are driving on the road.

WHP is always lower than EHP. Usually the brochures from manufacturing is showing the engine power rather than the WHP because I've came across a lot of Vios which Toyota rated 100+ but on dyno some are showing 90+ or some 89WHP only.

Also the types of transmission will also determined how much % of lost of power. AT tends to lost more than MT given the same engine output.

So for mengsuan, if you going for turbo project by sure to stick to the same dyno because then only it will give you accurate improvements and readings. I remember dynoed a Evo8 MR on 1 shop it reads 650hp but on another shop 620 only.

But I have to say that the Firestorm really do work after testing it.

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 18 2013, 10:15 PM)
he very in the middle punya placement, i second last cry.gif
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No wonder after that pre raya run Kenji tell me dont FFK my friend's wedding (like tell me don't come to speedfest) cool2.gif because I remember he tell me to FFK my friend wedding mia in the 1st place...Hahahahaha

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post Aug 19 2013, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Aug 19 2013, 12:46 PM)
Flywheel output should be higher than WHP because it takes out the lost of power in the transmission phase. Dyno machines also will give you different figures like DynoDynamics read 13% less than Dynojet. And hud dyno and rolling dyno also gives you different readings but I prefer a rolling dyno since it takes in the rolling resistance like in actual when you are driving on the road.

WHP is always lower than EHP. Usually the brochures from manufacturing is showing the engine power rather than the WHP because I've came across a lot of Vios which Toyota rated 100+ but on dyno some are showing 90+ or some 89WHP only. 

Also the types of transmission will also determined how much % of lost of power. AT tends to lost more than MT given the same engine output.

So for mengsuan, if you going for turbo project by sure to stick to the same dyno because then only it will give you accurate improvements and readings. I remember dynoed a Evo8 MR on 1 shop it reads 650hp but on another shop 620 only.

But I have to say that the Firestorm really do work after testing it.
No wonder after that pre raya run Kenji tell me dont FFK my friend's wedding (like tell me don't come to speedfest)  cool2.gif because I remember he tell me to FFK my friend wedding mia in the 1st place...Hahahahaha
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haha, lucky i also didnt join... my brake tak makan, yesterday almost langgar ppl butt... sweat.gif
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post Aug 19 2013, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Aug 19 2013, 01:01 PM)
haha, lucky i also didnt join... my brake tak makan, yesterday almost langgar ppl butt...  sweat.gif
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brows.gif If not, u can join open hood club with jsnkok.
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post Aug 19 2013, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Aug 19 2013, 12:14 PM)
not bad wad... tongue.gif ever tried it on ur FoFi? brows.gif
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Fofi slow unsure.gif

QUOTE(r3apers @ Aug 19 2013, 12:20 PM)
12s? so gooding~~!!
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Dugong 2s sad.gif

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post Aug 19 2013, 01:35 PM

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woot.

http://www.mudah.my/Proton+Wira+M+Diesel+2...68-21902662.htm

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Aug 19 2013, 01:06 PM)
brows.gif If not, u can join open hood club with jsnkok.
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i tak mau.... laugh.gif

QUOTE(dares @ Aug 19 2013, 01:10 PM)
Fofi slow  unsure.gif
Dugong 2s sad.gif
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dugong 4s 180km/h ph34r.gif

QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Aug 19 2013, 01:35 PM)
hmm same car?

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/car...d68-manual.html

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Aug 19 2013, 01:40 PM)
no ZTH account, dunno same or not.

one thing forsure, buy this then plonk in 4G63T also can endorse successfully... since 2.0 change to 2.0

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