When she ask you what other carmaker use the same turbo, just point to any VW car on the road (except Polo Sedan). Same supplier, BorgWarner.

haha... dont ever dream it. even Camry also dun have that specs like in Suprima S... i guess more than 200k to get that specs if it is from Toyota 

Yesterday my colleague asked me
er that Proton recently launched a new car with turbo hoh... why so lauya (bad) 1 what turbo is it so slow 1 no other maker use it pun.... then ask me the price.. i said RM80k.. she was surprise.... expensive la.. better get branded oversea car  ... ok fine i say if i have that 80k i sure get Suprima S.. .then she asked me why le?
I explain a little bit more why it is 80k... i said this car has 6 airbags leh... safety rating got 5 star ... awarded from Australia not local 1 ....  vios mana ada.... guess what she said...

the 5 stars must be from kopi $$$$        fine.. nothing to say

seriously!!! politic issue really does affect the Proton name a lot..

Haha  right. .. she sounds like turbo engine from proton 1 is lousy compare to the one install from those ah beng shop
Well this im not sure...

And she dont trust at all a milo tin car can get 5 star. .. hahahaa. .. lazy to talk to this kind of ppl

Yeah, just because it has a "turbo" doesn't mean it was made to be a devil's chariot.

The turbo is tamer, that's it. It doesn't lag, it doesn't produce excess power (and wasting fuel), it did good for a bit of overtaking and hill climb....at least from my experience, comparing it to a Waja CPS. From specs at least the CFE isn't consuming a whole lot of extra fuel for an extra 13hp, and much much much more torque.

That being said, my only complaint so far with the Suprima S without ever driving it nor looking at it in the flesh, is the daft "Turbo" label at the back. Stick with just CFE like the Preve, because we all know it won't be close to other real hot hatches with 200++ horsepower.

based on some info i got. they slap turbo rather than cfe coz market survey showing that many common malaysia dont notice cfe is turbo engine,but they notice that preve is big n heavy,they skeptical on how 1.6 l engine to haul a big n heavy car. they thought that its the same powerplant that inside persona,gen2, flx se n etc.

turbo word is easier to reach the masses. not all are car enthusiast.

my pov,they still can do it through informing it in ads n etc. but turbo is easier to explain. no need to explain actually,even grandma can understand the word :-)

The only worth buying among the cars you mentioned is Forte and Jazz, but given the price, size, performance, handling and features. Suprima still a good buy. 
I have a 2004 waja at home. no major problems. mind to tell what is your problem?

hi, my advise?  HAHAHAHA

Proton very poor understanding in branding. They should persevere make the "CFE" branding their own, like TSI and Ecoboost, and advertise that it is turbocharged, instead of panicking and revert back to a ahbeng "Turbo" label. Consumers will eventually get the CFE = turbocharged connection.

Same goes for the flip-flop-ing between "Proton R&H" and "Lotus R&H", and changing the Preve name to Suprima.

You'll end up confusing people instead.

This is called, removing DSZ legacy...

Well then that sucks 

I'm not surprised the 5 star is from $$. This is Malaysia, anything can happen. Just look at our GE

based on some info i got. they slap turbo rather than cfe coz market survey showing that many common malaysia dont notice cfe is turbo engine,but they notice that preve is big n heavy,they skeptical on how 1.6 l engine to haul a big n heavy car. they thought that its the same powerplant that inside persona,gen2, flx se n etc.

turbo word is easier to reach the masses. not all are car enthusiast.

my pov,they still can do it through informing it in ads n etc. but turbo is easier to explain. no need to explain actually,even grandma can understand the word :-)

based on some info i got. they slap turbo rather than cfe coz market survey showing that many common malaysia dont notice cfe is turbo engine,but they notice that preve is big n heavy,they skeptical on how 1.6 l engine to haul a big n heavy car. they thought that its the same powerplant that inside persona,gen2, flx se n etc.

turbo word is easier to reach the masses. not all are car enthusiast.

my pov,they still can do it through informing it in ads n etc. but turbo is easier to explain. no need to explain actually,even grandma can understand the word :-)

Then just put there, 1.6T for turbo, 1.6, non-turbo. Easy.

yep govt policy, but there's give and take for it. take these 2 situation:

1. expensive car to buy, petrol cheap, roadtax cheap, insurance cheap (not categorize according to CO2), no parking tax, car no need dispose after 5 years, every 3 years + 1 year every year no need go mandatory puspakom check then only can lulus roadtax

vs.

2. cheap car, petrol 1 liter RM4, roadtax expensive, insurance according to car CO2, must present parking lot certificate then only can buy car, need dispose car after 5 years, every 3 + subsequent year most mandatory puspakom check, petrol need to scout the cheapest petrol station
the 2nd one is the policy of most developed countries like Japan and UK.

which one will u prefer?

based on some info i got. they slap turbo rather than cfe coz market survey showing that many common malaysia dont notice cfe is turbo engine,but they notice that preve is big n heavy,they skeptical on how 1.6 l engine to haul a big n heavy car. they thought that its the same powerplant that inside persona,gen2, flx se n etc.

turbo word is easier to reach the masses. not all are car enthusiast.

my pov,they still can do it through informing it in ads n etc. but turbo is easier to explain. no need to explain actually,even grandma can understand the word :-)

I'm not surprised the 5 star is from $$. This is Malaysia, anything can happen. Just look at our GE

1.6 still got people confuse Proton engine always 1.6.  Old tech engine.