Work in Government got Bonus one in the end of the year? 

Everytime they announce the budget civil servants will be waiting anxiously so you think for yourself

I just read the entire thread from the beginning. Fuh!

Anyway, here's my Q. Just say a person with Masters apply for PTD, what are the chances compared to degree holder? Or are they both on the same level? And is there any difference between JPA scholars (who need to be attached to the gov several years) and non-JPA scholars? Or do you have to be a JPA scholar to apply for PTD?

I heard my malays frenz said no wor. How come?

Yes, JPA scolar n loan is in high chance to get PTD. But how much actually PTD's pay? 

I just read the entire thread from the beginning. Fuh!

Anyway, here's my Q. Just say a person with Masters apply for PTD, what are the chances compared to degree holder? Or are they both on the same level? And is there any difference between JPA scholars (who need to be attached to the gov several years) and non-JPA scholars? Or do you have to be a JPA scholar to apply for PTD?

Yes, JPA scolar n loan is in high chance to get PTD. But how much actually PTD's pay? 

No, all you need is cabel. Get to know internal insider, walla! ... You will get the job...
No, seriously, I'm not kidding....

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Added on May 14, 2008, 2:56 pm
The minimum pay for PTD, P1t1 is RM1900+, not include any allowance yet... so basically if you in let say, Melaka. ++ all allowance you will get around RM2500 or more... 

AFAIK those who enter will automatically be in P1T3 the minimum....some might be in P1T5, 6 or even 10

I just read the entire thread from the beginning. Fuh!

Anyway, here's my Q. Just say a person with Masters apply for PTD, what are the chances compared to degree holder? Or are they both on the same level? And is there any difference between JPA scholars (who need to be attached to the gov several years) and non-JPA scholars? Or do you have to be a JPA scholar to apply for PTD?

anyway, PTD good for the one who like be a servant for government..

Hi guys, what's the qualification to apply for the post and how you guys apply, Pls give me the link. It seems the pay not too bad.

yah, I just said if P1t1 for minimum, more than that depend on your experience right?  .... anyway, PTD good for the one who like be a servant for government..

Person with Master will carry more merit than a person with degree. Plus i think (but don't quote me on this) master holders will receive higher salary. Regarding the JPA scholar, i think priority will be given to scholar.I was a scholar, and i didn't think i did very well with the exams. However, they still call me for the 2nd stage.(I'm quite surprise)

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Added on May 15, 2008, 3:13 pm

yeah i couldn't agree more. Like i said earlier, i was called for the 2nd stage, but I didn't go for the assessment test. I'm planing to further my study, and I don't think government sector is for me.

further ur study doesn't mean government sector is for you as some get fully paid leave to go further their studies

AFAIK those who enter will automatically be in P1T3 the minimum....some might be in P1T5, 6 or even 10

yeah i know. What i was trying to say was i dont think i'll be happy working in gorverment sector

Says who ? Check Ur facts my friend.

For M41 grade, those with degree will get P1T1, those with masters will get P1T5 & those with PhD will get P1T9, for basic pay. Allowance is ITP (RM250), COLA (Minimum RM150) & ITKA (RM300). I think this has been discussed in earlier postings, check previous posts pls.

Fresh grad PTD (with degree) will get gross of RM2,935.47 with the latest payscale.

JPA scholar will get better chance ? I doubt it. Ur welcomed to try though. Pls remember that PTDs will have to go through 3 phases of filtering, & after that U will have to go for 6 months diploma course. Pls bear that in mind. Thank you.

lol why won't be happy ah? wont get fired 1 wo haha
Yes i know that is stated on paper maybe M41 grade is different but for DG41 which is also a graduate scheme they also stated like that but so far i never come to know anyone who actually goes into P1T1! Anyway if Masters only get P1T5 i would rather be a teacher(DG41) as if you are with a first class honours you would be placed into T6 already

woho DG n M......... hi snr tenno long time no see ma..

Hi salute all of you people who are interested in joining the government or ptd or whatever. It takes great courage to go into a join that only few want to venture in. I used to remember a time when government service (no matter if its PTD/engineer/doctor) was considered as the leftover job for graduates with no hope of joining the private sector. With the promise of the low salary for the fulfillment of "Serving Your Country", how many intelligent and capable people would want to join  the government. The only people willing to take the low salary were those with the following reasons:

1. Can't speak English
2. Low CGPA
3. Graduate with a degree in a field no other employer wants (ie Bachelor of Pentadbiran Tanah, Bachelor Of Psychology)
4. Lazy/Sick (This is a major disillusion as the government does a lot of disciplinary action on people who can't work)
5. Parents wish
6. Disillusion of stable career with Pension scheme and low risk of retrenchment. (This is a another major disillusion as the private sector is just as stable and sometimes better)
7. Downright STUPID!!! (ie trying to prove a point/trying to prove worth).
8. The Marilyn Monroes who want glamour ("keja dengan ministers, you"..."jumpa pm, you")
9. The noble man/woman who wants to "Berkhidmat Untuk Negara".

I hope these "Berkhidmat Untuk Negara" know what their doing because what the phrase actually means is sacrificing one's money, time and effort for the bos (KPP/KPSU/KSU/KSN/PM) who hide behind the name "Negara" ie buying a RM100 batek shirt to where every Thursday, paying RM50 to go to a departmental function at a hotel, working late night to finish a paper the bos wants fast and getting the low salary in return without overtime. Sometimes their sacrifice go unnoticed and unappreciated by certain bosses.

But with Pak Lah's generous civil service pay hike, this perception of the civil service among Malaysians is gradually changing to a service of choice for star performers. At least this will be true until other companies in the private sector do their own payhike in 2/3 years time. Petronas and TNB have already done their salary increase to levels beyond the government's capability. It won't be long before the rest do the same.  When this happens, the public perception of government service will return to the above reasons again.

So I hope you people who are so enthralled with this PTD "best of best", "glamourous job" cockledoodledoo think straight before making a decision on joining the government.