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 The Retrievers, Yay , I own a Retriever !

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post May 17 2006, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(nairud @ May 17 2006, 08:59 AM)
I'm glad you know why your GR is cheap. I've been always wanted to tell you bout it but then since you know about it, i'll pass.

Price vary according to breeders because it depends on how much effort they're poured into taking care of the pups. Sometimes breeder sell more exp because they wouldn't want the buyer to just simply take care of the dog. When one buy a dog at a dear price, one would take care of the dog better.
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yeah for Dog Lover breader will do this... but just let you know now breader are focus on money and not to the dog. Just like my GR, according to the breader friend, he had never take care of him and just give him good. Alot of sickness like bladder affection also never cure it until i brought it. The purpose of him is earn money....

My Poor Prince (GR) having bladder affection now :-s ... cry.gif
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post May 17 2006, 09:49 AM

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Dont label all breeders focuses on money. You'll get a handful from me later. mad.gif
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post May 17 2006, 10:04 AM

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There are a few kinds of breeders

You got the backyard breeder: this one really breed for money lah, never take proper care of the dog. Normally breeds more than 2 breeds but it is not surprising if they only focus on one breed also.

Then got the puppymill: This one will have more than 4 breeds of dogs and sometimes 10 to 20 dogs, they breed non-stop and put in very poor environment. Very sad as the dogs are sold very cheaply also. Normally petshops get their stock from puppymills.

Then you got the homebreeder/hobbyist breeder: This one will treat their dogs very well. The dog is normally a pet dog that has been bred. Homebreeders won't breed so many and might not breed often also. But do check, some backyard breeders claim they are homebreeders so do some homework first before buying a dog or puppy. The prices from home breeder is affordable.

The Show Breeder: This one will have a few to many dogs of the same breed. The owner would go to many dog shows to show his stock. You will notice the dogs are very well taken care of, some even live in air con rooms and get top quality food. Price from the show breeder is sometimes not affordable. It depends on the quality of the dog. Just be prepared to pay about Rm2k over for a puppy from a show breeder.


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Think no matter wat category the breeder claim they are, go ahead to their place & examine yourself, & pick the 1 who care of their dog most.
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post May 17 2006, 10:20 AM

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hmm..yeah..

last time when i got my GR, we went to the breeder's home in Singapore to see the pups and the mom and dad...the dogs were well loved by the family and the mom and dad were champion line show dogs..

i remember playing with the dogs in the house..they have access to the whole place, including the bedrooms..haha..

but of course the price was expensive..paid them RM3000.. sweat.gif
but that was 9 years ago...so mayb over the years price drop.. laugh.gif

the owner often called up to check on my GR's condition too..

so sakit hati when she kena poison....argh..

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post May 17 2006, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(heidityj @ May 17 2006, 10:20 AM)
hmm..yeah..

last time when i got my GR, we went to the breeder's home in Singapore to see the pups and the mom and dad...the dogs were well loved by the family and the mom and dad were champion line show dogs..

i remember playing with the dogs in the house..they have access to the whole place, including the bedrooms..haha..

but of course the price was expensive..paid them RM3000.. sweat.gif
but that was 9 years ago...so mayb over the years price drop.. laugh.gif

the owner often called up to check on my GR's condition..
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Show champion line dogs often never drop in price. Like a show GR the price is RM3k above. A show cocker spaniel is RM2.5k above, a show shih tzu is Rm1.8k above... But they are worth the money coz there is quality in the dog. But still depends on what you want, if say for companion, just get a pet quality unless you thinking of showing, then go for a show quality dog.

Always track the background of the breeder coz I was almost conned before by a home breeder that kept giving me stories saying his dogs are better than show breeder dogs and his dogs are imported show line... but see the background, know liao he is a homebreeder that breeds 3 different breeds and he never show his dogs also. The worst is his dogs breed eveytime they on heat. So just beware... the price he gave me was the same as show breeders of that breed.

So best is contact a few breeders and view their dogs. The dogs that are well cared for are worth buying.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ May 17 2006, 10:04 AM)
There are a few kinds of breeders

You got the backyard breeder: this one really breed for money lah, never take proper care of the dog. Normally breeds more than 2 breeds but it is not surprising if they only focus on one breed also.

Then got the puppymill: This one will have more than 4 breeds of dogs and sometimes 10 to 20 dogs, they breed non-stop and put in very poor environment. Very sad as the dogs are sold very cheaply also. Normally petshops get their stock from puppymills.

Then you got the homebreeder/hobbyist breeder: This one will treat their dogs very well. The dog is normally a pet dog that has been bred. Homebreeders won't breed so many and might not breed often also. But do check, some backyard breeders claim they are homebreeders so do some homework first before buying a dog or puppy. The prices from home breeder is affordable.

The Show Breeder: This one will have a few to many dogs of the same breed. The owner would go to many dog shows to show his stock. You will notice the dogs are very well taken care of, some even live in air con rooms and get top quality food. Price from the show breeder is sometimes not affordable. It depends on the quality of the dog. Just be prepared to pay about Rm2k over for a puppy from a show breeder.
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I believe my GR is getting from puppymill with very poor condition and bad food. My friend of the breader tell me the food they give just a rice + something inside for them ... Shit... i must take care of him well now ... to replay what he lose last time when puppies tongue.gif
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M2KLand,

Sorry to hear that ..poor thing..
anywhere i will try to contact as much breeder will do.....hopefully i can get a healthy one ....
price is another matter ....as mention previously i am not going to show off my dog n i dont care wheather their parents are champion line....



QUOTE(M2K2Land @ May 17 2006, 10:42 AM)
I believe my GR is getting from puppymill with very poor condition and bad food. My friend of the breader tell me the food they give just a rice + something inside for them ... Shit... i must take care of him well now ... to replay what he lose last time when puppies tongue.gif
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post May 17 2006, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(nairud @ May 17 2006, 09:49 AM)
Dont label all breeders focuses on money. You'll get a handful from me later.  mad.gif
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Ah nairud , you a breeder ?
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post May 17 2006, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(Frenly @ May 17 2006, 11:40 AM)
M2KLand,

Sorry to hear that ..poor thing..
anywhere i will try to contact as much breeder will do.....hopefully i can get a healthy one ....
price is another matter ....as mention previously i am not going to show off my dog  n i dont care wheather their parents are champion line....
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I got my Fala for RM1.2k .

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post May 17 2006, 05:21 PM

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ooo is Labrador Retriever tongue.gif it look very cute tongue.gif find a day we meet up, let them play together tongue.gif
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cute dog...

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post May 17 2006, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(M2K2Land @ May 17 2006, 05:21 PM)
ooo is Labrador Retriever tongue.gif it look very cute tongue.gif find a day we meet up, let them play together tongue.gif
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good , good good ...maybe next month , I might bring Fala to the dog show this coming June . See how first lah , and sorry ah PICTURES too big and lazy to resize it .
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post May 18 2006, 09:35 AM

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eh ... I going ask one question about my GR. Now he is at my sister place. Every time i go there... he like mad when saw me/gf, when i open his chain and he like mad... jump here and there... like so happy... ok that is fine

but he act really mad... when i bring him go out to garden i release him... to poo and pee and he run like mad also. I very hard control them to clam down. and he go to another people and jump to that people also. I call him and he wont bother. just keep run :-s Any method to help me clam him down? dont Run here and there like mad dog ?

Please advise
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post May 18 2006, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(simchi @ May 17 2006, 05:05 PM)
Ah nairud , you a breeder ?
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hobbyist breeder

QUOTE(M2K2Land @ May 18 2006, 09:35 AM)
eh ... I going ask one question about my GR. Now he is at my sister place. Every time i go there... he like mad when saw me/gf, when i open his chain and he like mad... jump here and there... like so happy... ok that is fine

but he act really mad... when i bring him go out to garden i release him... to poo and pee and he run like mad also. I very hard control them to clam down. and he go to another people and jump to that people also. I call him and he wont bother. just keep run :-s Any method to help me clam him down? dont Run here and there like mad dog ?

Please advise
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Is he chained up all the time? Does your sister play with him when you're not around? there's a lot of possibility. One word for it, hyperactive...all the stored energy are vented out whenever you release him.

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post May 18 2006, 02:29 PM

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Yes, my house are under renovation and now i am staying at condo... and also i am working. This are what i am doing with him.

Morning : 8am-9am bring him walk and poo&pee
Evening : 7pm-9pm bring him walk and poo&pee + play with him

I know it not enough but i try my best with him. I need chain him because my sister was scare of dog tongue.gif so no choice.

Does this effect he become so active?
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QUOTE(M2K2Land @ May 18 2006, 02:29 PM)
Does this effect he become so active?
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abuthen.... laugh.gif

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post May 18 2006, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(nairud @ May 18 2006, 11:16 AM)
hobbyist breeder
Is he chained up all the time? Does your sister play with him when you're not around? there's a lot of possibility. One word for it, hyperactive...all the stored energy are vented out whenever you release him.
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I bet you breed JRT then icon_idea.gif . But thats not important , so what kind of breed you're breeding ? blush.gif

Fala speeds like a bullet-train whenever I try to act like her do what she's doing (ie : jump sideway , pretending i am running fast) . Maybe she feels intimidate or whatnot .

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QUOTE(simchi @ May 18 2006, 05:50 PM)
I bet you breed JRT then  icon_idea.gif . But thats not important , so what kind of breed you're breeding ? blush.gif

Fala speeds like a bullet-train whenever I try to act like her do what she's doing (ie : jump sideway , pretending i am running fast) . Maybe she feels intimidate or whatnot .
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Yalor... like bullet train... cannot chase them at all... but when i SHOUT him "PRINCE". he will stop awhile and continue run tongue.gif
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QUOTE(simchi @ May 18 2006, 05:50 PM)
I bet you breed JRT then  icon_idea.gif . But thats not important , so what kind of breed you're breeding ? blush.gif .
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Let's just say you have your answer already. But this would be one time thingy for me unless i become house-husband.

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