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 [WTA]Fiesta vs 208 vs Inspira vs Prius C, <RM90k car for Single late 20s male

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nzh0920
post Jul 9 2013, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jul 8 2013, 11:56 PM)
But the Proton is a much bigger car, different segment, and it probably also will handle quite good, right?

I don't think it is so easy to decide which one to go for.
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i actually drove my fren's fiesta 1.4 few times, stock handling wise quite good, very agile , but steering feel too light.
suspension quite stiff, even more bumpy after he changed to 205/45r16 sweat.gif during high speed cornering time, dont know why the rear keep jumping, may b too light , i got no idea.

inspira stock wise , handling truly meant to be comfort. stock suspension setup too much body roll, but steering feel not bad due to hydraulic type power steering.

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post Jul 9 2013, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 9 2013, 12:02 AM)
i actually drove my fren's fiesta 1.4 few times, stock handling wise quite good, very agile , but steering feel too light.
suspension quite stiff, even more bumpy after he changed to 205/45r16  sweat.gif  during high speed cornering time, dont know why the rear keep jumping, may b too light , i got no idea.

inspira stock wise , handling truly meant to be comfort. stock suspension setup too much body roll, but steering feel not bad due to hydraulic type power steering.

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U sure u are a fair non bias reviewer?
I prefer the fair and non bias reviewer ..
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post Jul 9 2013, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 8 2013, 10:10 PM)
U made the right choice.. Inspira is a proton anyway
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 8 2013, 10:33 PM)
u got problem izit, ford vs proton still need to consider, of coz ford la  brows.gif  handling good yo... icon_idea.gif
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C-segment...Rear multilink....rear disc brakes...Lancer GL chassis wub.gif

QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jul 8 2013, 11:56 PM)
But the Proton is a much bigger car, different segment, and it probably also will handle quite good, right?

I don't think it is so easy to decide which one to go for.
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QUOTE(jnick @ Jul 9 2013, 12:00 AM)
For some ppl. The badge is the barrier.
Dares, I am not saying u. Muahahaha
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post Jul 9 2013, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 9 2013, 12:02 AM)
i actually drove my fren's fiesta 1.4 few times, stock handling wise quite good, very agile , but steering feel too light.
suspension quite stiff, even more bumpy after he changed to 205/45r16  sweat.gif  during high speed cornering time, dont know why the rear keep jumping, may b too light , i got no idea.

inspira stock wise , handling truly meant to be comfort. stock suspension setup too much body roll, but steering feel not bad due to hydraulic type power steering.

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Fiesta 1.6 S has different suspension than Fiesta 1.4 LX, but the rear hops as well when cornering on uneven roads. I blame the stiff suspension and the torsion beam unsure.gif
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post Jul 9 2013, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 9 2013, 12:11 AM)
U sure u are a fair non bias reviewer?
I prefer the fair and non bias reviewer ..
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i js given some of my opinion about my lancer gl chasis car only biggrin.gif
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post Jul 9 2013, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 9 2013, 12:33 AM)
Fiesta 1.6 S has different suspension than Fiesta 1.4 LX, but the rear hops as well when cornering on uneven roads. I blame the stiff suspension and the torsion beam  unsure.gif
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stiffer than fiesta 1.4? blink.gif


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post Jul 9 2013, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 9 2013, 12:35 AM)
stiffer than fiesta 1.4?  blink.gif
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No idea...probably.

According to Ford SDAC the S gets the "Sport tuned suspension" whereas the 1.4 LX and Sedan LX gets the "Standard suspension". hmm.gif the S also runs on 16" stock whereas the 1.4 LX is 15"....but you mentioned your friend has swapped to 16" as well hmm.gif
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post Jul 9 2013, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 9 2013, 12:38 AM)
No idea...probably.

According to Ford SDAC the S gets the "Sport tuned suspension" whereas the 1.4 LX and Sedan LX gets the "Standard suspension".  hmm.gif the S also runs on 16" stock whereas the 1.4 LX is 15"....but you mentioned your friend has swapped to 16" as well  hmm.gif
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yup, some old pic before roof spray to black

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post Jul 9 2013, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 9 2013, 12:40 AM)
yup, some old pic before roof spray to black

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Spray cheaper than sticker? hmm.gif

Nice car btw wub.gif is it the new model (7 airbags) or the old one (1 airbag)?
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post Jul 9 2013, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 9 2013, 12:47 AM)
Spray cheaper than sticker?  hmm.gif

Nice car btw  wub.gif is it the new model (7 airbags) or the old one (1 airbag)?
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spray can polish and looks better tongue.gif
old one, 1 airbag model, 2010 car

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some yummy everco exhaust that poisoned by me if u interested to view:P
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry50331207

now he looking to remap his fiesta,because exchaust changed smile.gif

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post Jul 9 2013, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 9 2013, 12:50 AM)
spray can polish and looks better  tongue.gif
old one, 1 airbag model, 2010 car

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some yummy everco exhaust that poisoned by me if u interested to view:P
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry50331207

now he looking to remap his fiesta,because exchaust changed  smile.gif
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shoo shoo....My car fully stock whistling.gif

Lucky I didn't buy Inspila, if I got one and join you guys TT....I sure broke like nobody's business doh.gif

P/S: WTF his other car is an R8 icon_question.gif

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 9 2013, 12:53 AM)
shoo shoo....My car fully stock whistling.gif

Lucky I didn't buy Inspila, if I got one and join you guys TT....I sure broke like nobody's business  doh.gif
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ya lo... too many things to mod sweat.gif
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post Jul 9 2013, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 9 2013, 12:53 AM)
shoo shoo....My car fully stock whistling.gif

Lucky I didn't buy Inspila, if I got one and join you guys TT....I sure broke like nobody's business  doh.gif

P/S: WTF his other car is an R8  icon_question.gif
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Talk so much syoik sendiri ah??
the fair and famous journalist also no comment pun...
mod what la. Lancer GL chassis always lack of something that is not describeable one..
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post Jul 13 2013, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(dtna7 @ Jul 7 2013, 09:06 AM)
TS, i chose Prius C for you due to the following reasons. (As i have first hand experience with my Prius)

**Pros**
-Reliable Engine (Taken for Prius mk1 1.5L, tuned & upgraded for current Prius C)
-No 1 fuel saver car, easily reach 22-25km/L (~4L/100km)
-7 Airbags
-CBU Japan
-Good CVT transmission (Much better than my mom's CRZ, sorry CRZ fans/owners. They don't jerk and they are very reliable, just look up e-CVT design @Google.
-Great discount now, who knows if the tax exemption will ever be renewed for next year?
-Saves alot of $$$, BN is struggling to keep RON95 @RM1.90
-Regenerative braking, you rarely need to change your brake pads, how cool is that? tongue.gif
-Travel locally more with your family without worrying about petrol price! tongue.gif

**Cons**
-Not very likeable interior, apparently your $$$ goes under the hood more
-Subjective rear exterior design (I don't like it too)
-Not trying to be biased here, but nothing comes up anymore

Prius HSD is about efficiency, though performance aren't really lacking with all that torque from the electric motor, but it isn't exactly cutting everyone else too.

Your $$$, your choice smile.gif
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How old is your Prius anyway? Service interval 5000km or 10,000km and how much per service? Your car is less than 3 years old and mileage not even reaching 60,000km or 100,000km or 200,000km. That is not long enough to jump to conclusion whether maintenance low or not. As what I got, hybrid lexus CT200H service interval 5000km at RM440/-. That cost more than diesel engine RM230 at 5000km interval.

Hybrid has 1 combustion engine, 1 electric motor plus 1 inverter and sophisticated electronics (more expensive than in normal cars) that are unknown to local technician/foreman. Anything wrong, send to SC and if faulty or damage, must replace and buy new. No fix. How much does electric motor cost? How much does inverter cost, how much does the ECM+Multiplexer cost? Standard Toyota ECM costs RM4-5k, hybrid 1 how much? The ECM in hybrid is bigger and more expensive. Battery spoilt, can still afford, how about others?

These are the reasons why they give much tax exemption to hybrid cars as they expect not many dare to buy them when news on their maintenance came up in another 2-3 years time.

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post Jul 13 2013, 01:37 PM

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TS have u decided yet? since jazz price now drop to 75 k.
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QUOTE(kulai @ Jul 13 2013, 01:37 PM)
TS have u decided yet? since jazz price now drop to 75 k.
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but is jazz suitable for guys?
or how to modify to better suit a guy?
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post Jul 13 2013, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 9 2013, 08:30 AM)
Talk so much syoik sendiri ah??
the fair and famous journalist also no comment pun...
mod what la. Lancer GL chassis always lack of something that is not describeable one..
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Late reply, just got back from site-job. This is to reply your Inspira vs Forte thread. There are things that could not be described here and would require you to try on the track to find out. Inspira and Lancer both using Multi-link but both are different quality and material. They are not the same, 1 from MMC and 1 from P1 Lotus.

Example, there are 2 metal bars from 2 different manufacturers, sizes could be similar but weight, solidity, etc different still. Understand?

When Perdana introduced, the Galant is allowed to be sold but it didn't get to sell anymore since Perdana introduced. People just don't think about Galant that is using the same platform as Perdana. They buy Perdana if can't afford Accord, Camry, Telstar or 626. This was before MMC being forced to cease operation in 1995 due to too poor sales in cars segment. Lancer is still alive today because it has what your Inspira doesn't have. This is fact, your Inspira is nothing close to Lancer other than physically the same. Whatever detune you say, in US, there is no such thing on the emission thingy. Seems like P1 protection forced our local MMC Lancer to be fitted with GL tuning so that they don't get to challenge Inspira sales.

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 13 2013, 02:24 PM)
Late reply, just got back from site-job. This is to reply your Inspira vs Forte thread. There are things that could not be described here and would require you to try on the track to find out. Inspira and Lancer both using Multi-link but both are different quality and material. They are not the same, 1 from MMC and 1 from P1 Lotus.

Example, there are 2 metal bars from 2 different manufacturers, sizes could be similar but weight, solidity, etc different still. Understand?

When Perdana introduced, the Galant is allowed to be sold but it didn't get to sell anymore since Perdana introduced. People just don't think about Galant that is using the same platform as Perdana. They buy Perdana if can't afford Accord, Camry, Telstar or 626. This was before MMC being forced to cease operation in 1995 due to too poor sales in cars segment. Lancer is still alive today because it has what your Inspira doesn't have. This is fact, your Inspira is nothing close to Lancer other than physically the same. Whatever detune you say, in US, there is no such thing on the emission thingy. Seems like P1 protection forced our local MMC Lancer to be fitted with GL tuning so that they don't get to challenge Inspira sales.
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bro.. Can u stop crapping from ur own imagination ??
seriously.. Have u seen both lancer and inspira mapping? Do u know how to read that? Both binary matches even every single bit. And if u dont already know europe country roadtax is based on amount of carbon produce. And do u think a mass production car, the manufacturer will create multiple maps for multiple country? Its all about cost. And u telling its not relevent in emission control.. Please u have enuf pf crapping and imagination.. Further more have you physically own or seen the lower arm of an inspira? Yes I own one.. I did even look at the arm, its mitsubisho logo. Produce and manufacture by mitsubishi. Your perdana works 15 years back doesnt means it will be the same for inspira. U understand now? If you juz look and news and broucher dont make ur own assumption. And lancer GL (its call GLS) have the same chassis as Lancer GT. The difference is the suspension tuning only. Chassis is the same. Inspira differences is absorber and spring by proton. Get ur facts right before crapping like an expert. Its not even lotus. Yes is pure proton only. U go proton site. Its stated tune by proton not lotus. Antiroll bar is smaller in inspira compare GT. the tuning is diff. The amount of parts in the rear suspension is same. Mind you. Im not saying inspira Is same as GT. Just your fact and what you assume is all ur own opinion and stop acting like a pro. Even your idea about local parts.. You are just assuming base on ur idea of wira 1993. If you dont already know about manufacturig and how the reduce cost dont act like one. I guess till here u will know why ppl call you jaycraptor now.

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Mr jayCraptor, I have the full list of the parts bought from mitsubishi. Yes I have access to the data. Not thru any website or what so ever. First hand access. And if u want to know the differences. No doubt workmanship cbu wins hands down. No question ask. And regarding ur claim that rear suspension lesser parts is pure ur own imagination. Its spring and absorbers and diff size antiroll bar. Both car are tune for different purpose. One is more towards sporty feel the other is towards comfort. It has nothing to do with chassis mr jaycraptor. And your so call many local parts. The local parts is way lesser than u can believe. Why GT is so mcuch more expensive then? Its purely tax.. Manufacturer is not stupid, to localize parts it include cost.. The quantity is not much hence orderig from mitsu would be saving compare to localize. And the engine and gearbox come assembled from mitsubishi japan (ur choice to believe or not). I wont let u know how I access the data (i might be in trouble for that). But u are seriously crapping without any fact. You do not know how manufacturer works out. U dunno anything about cost saving (in this casr localize parts). Please we have enuf of ur so call expert opinion

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