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wildwestgoh
post May 22 2014, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(chaics85 @ May 22 2014, 12:57 PM)
unplugging my WD mybook during start up solve the slow boot up.. now the prob is, its a bummer to connect and disconnect my mybook every time during boot up.  shakehead.gif
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Which port you plugged to? Is it USB3.0? hmm.gif
How about try to set in the BIOS setting to not boot from USB?
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post Jun 2 2014, 07:34 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ May 31 2014, 02:13 PM)
this is the 4-lane samsung xp941 128gb, a pci-e m.2 ssd that has the lowest scores of everything compared to its bigger brothers (256gb, 512gb), on asrock z97 extreme6.

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tbh, it has no effect on common usage.
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4K read isn't impressive, only the writes looks good on a database server. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 6 2014, 07:35 AM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Jun 5 2014, 08:36 PM)
Hi,
Am using SSD 120GB Samsung EVO.

C drive 40GB for Windows 7, and D drive 80 GB for Windows 8.

Installed Samsung Magician and on Rapid Mode.

Is it of any use to install Intel Rapid Start and/or Intel Smart Connect ?

I thought it's redundant.

Advice please ..... rclxub.gif
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Samsung Magician (Rapid Mode) for its own controller (SSD's controller).
Intel Smart Connect for its own controller (Intel onboard chipset, on the mainboard).
Intel's software however does nothing to improve my SSD's performance, so I think (IMO) not much different.

QUOTE(huskar88 @ Jun 5 2014, 10:50 PM)
why noone use cheap brand such as plextor like me smile.gif ... i guess this brand can easily break
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I'm using Plextor ler... don't scare me ler... sad.gif

QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Jun 5 2014, 11:04 PM)
Crucial MX100 256GB is only 99.99 on Amazon now. Is this brand/model any good?

Anandtach reviews says nothing bad about it and recommends it. Just wondering if its cheap for some reason?
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Wow, good price, that's USD100 right? Grab it! I would too if I can afford it now! I have some other priorities in my live so darn it!!!!
Btw, do check if it can deliver to MY, some items they don't deliver to MY and needs forwarder, may end up higher price than local, and thus defeat the purpose, what's more is the RMA... doh.gif ugh, thinking about it make me wonder sometimes if it's worth getting from oversea.
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post Jun 9 2014, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(Y.J.S @ Jun 9 2014, 02:58 PM)
Wonder what's the negative side of it being $20 or more cheaper than others user posted image

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It's cheaper means the manufacturing cost is already cheaper, so they can sell cheaper, it's a good way/strategy to bring down the overall SSD pricing, competitive reason as well, this is good for consumer like us... brows.gif
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post Jun 14 2014, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(bl@ze @ Jun 13 2014, 11:30 PM)
My Crucial MX100 otw..Amazon Global quite easy to use..dat price...even with RM50 delivery charges..
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LOL, tempted to order as well, but broke already this month, probably another 2 months ahead... hmm.gif Wonder still have such offer? Maybe cheaper? drool.gif
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post Jun 14 2014, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(sanderz @ Jun 14 2014, 09:26 PM)
No, but I think this should't cause the problem anyway. Becase if I enable AHCI my PC will bluescreen, I lazy go into registry to enable it. Anyway my friend also using the same SSD and has the same kind of value, so I think the SSD is normal... Unless SMART says error I think.
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With no AHCI, you're basically diminishing the SSD's value, SSD is fast but for it to works wonderfully and longevity, you needs AHCI.
SSD optimization also maximize its performance and prolong its lifespan.
For you case, you will probably only feels the performance drop after days to weeks of usage, when the SSD reaches its peak and no garbage collection (a.k.a. TRIM).
Be sure to read more about optimization before you complains when it's slowing down.
Mine has already write over few TBs (using VM lots few months ago with huge database works) and no, boot up and opening applications still the same speed, except the CPU couldn't keep up at time. sweat.gif
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post Jun 15 2014, 07:55 AM

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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Jun 14 2014, 11:32 PM)
I think TRIM works even you're on IDE mode, AHCI basically just enhance the performance abit and hot swappable function.
Converting  IDE mode to AHCI is abit risky unless he is adventurous or has knowledge of repairing OS boot problem  sweat.gif
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Well, for Windows Vista and above, just set the registry (first) then go to BIOS and set to AHCI, and good to go, simple as that.
I do see optimization highly recommends AHCI due to the TRIM... hmm.gif was I wrong? sweat.gif
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post Jun 20 2014, 07:55 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Jun 19 2014, 07:18 PM)
yeah smile.gif 700tb is kind of a big number for drives in 240-256gb range.

this latest update revealed a number of interesting points, like the following:

1. ssd will not die on you without giving any sign of its death; you have plenty of time to prepare for the worst;

2. intel's self destructive mechanism will brick the drive, not making it read-only mode as  in enterprise counter parts;

3. tlc-based drives, if implemented right, can live very long, too.

no wonder samsung dares to push tlc drives into enterprise space (for certain workloads).
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Enterprise will usually have RAID and other multi-device redundancy in check so SSD/HDD failure is not an issue at all, but of course a good way to warn before it even fail is a good sign for SSD manufacturer such as Intel, this shows Intel is in good account for such measure, thumbs up for Intel but would like their drive to live a bit longer though... sweat.gif (Expensive ler.. my friend...)

Oh, this one should be put on first page, can always quote those newbie to look at first page for more information, unless TL;DR then we can smack them a bit (beyond spoon-feed).
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post Jul 4 2014, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Jul 4 2014, 10:08 AM)
well, good news. http://newsroom.intel.com/community/intel_...n-intel-ssd-320

your drive has a 5-year warranty.
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Bad news is he can't recover his data... most of the SSD still can't do that as yet, once you reach its max... it die, no read-only, nothing, just die, if that's business perspective, it's not a very good sign. doh.gif
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QUOTE(Wii_hunter @ Jul 18 2014, 06:50 PM)
Are the orders from amazon only charged when the items are shipped? odered 2 mx100 but find it weird they didnt charge my card yet.
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I think it's charged when it's shipped or probably few days due to International processing.
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post Jul 19 2014, 10:45 PM

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If one can boot from a RAID card, I'm pretty sure can boot from PCI-E drive, provided the BIOS can detect the drive on boot, and has the ability to set the boot to that particular drive, I don't have any to test but servers has been able to do it since few years back (Windows 2008/2003) so I'm pretty sure consumer grade mainboard these days should be able to. hmm.gif
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post Aug 7 2014, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(nikaizad @ Aug 7 2014, 05:10 AM)
guys... im waiting for ssd prices to go to down about rm 200 for 120gb how long should i wait?
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Wait for 2nd hand? hmm.gif Anyone selling less-used?
Another few more years and when they're phase out and some retailers still keeping old stock with very limited warranty.
By then, even the 512GB is much worth than 120GB, expecting around RM350 ~ 380 next mid-year.

Conclusion, buy what you can afford now, or just wait until you cannot tahan any more... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(pakji @ Aug 7 2014, 01:59 PM)
i am crazy new toys SSD 1TB X2 FOR RAID0 FOR D: DRIVE FOR GAME LOADING BLASTING FASTER
I plan buy new PC
C: drive for same brand but model PRO for x2 raid0
7.200rpm hdd take long time loading game  rclxub.gif  that i cannot wait lol
suitable storage for 7,200rpm hdd
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Wow, RAID0 hmm.gif
Mind give review on the loading speed, of course the game that you played, and of course the same condition as possible, such as the same numbers of antivirus installed, background drivers, programs, etc. biggrin.gif when it's at your PC, of course. brows.gif
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QUOTE(pakji @ Aug 7 2014, 03:49 PM)
ssd 1tb evo 840 x2 raid0 for not C: drive its D: Drive for all GAMES INSTALLED NOT OS
i will get another PRO 840 FOR C: DRIVE FOR OS AND PROGRAM installed like that

not yet new pc
now using old pc dell for running windows xp that my pc noob
i plan new PC RIG X99 Motherboard high end and powerfull
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Ah, some misunderstanding, of course the reason I want the same condition on the background services and programs running would be on the same level as you load your current games right now, background services and programs (antivirus, etc) does play a role in loading your games. wink.gif
But if you going to be used in your completely new system then I assume the differences is way huge, but if you can, just do it anyway at your convenient, this will of course poison someone else to "invest" in SSD... brows.gif
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QUOTE(pakji @ Aug 7 2014, 04:04 PM)
yah new pc caming soon

ssd will arrived septh 2014
because shipped US ADDRESS
i hope he will send my address malaysia hehe

i will show speed ssd test PRO AND EVO

i scared i got alot steam games and origin why i scared because i think 2TB Not enough  rclxub.gif
i got BF4 AND BF3 AND titanfall and TO MANY GAMES i think 2xxgb+++ for orgin
i ordered for steam game new Wolfenstein The New Order but 50GB++ i think total will be 4xxgb++
daam  cry.gif  i cannot afford 4TB SSD
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I think 1TB is enough? And since you're going for RAID0 then you should have 2TB, either one die and you can kiss goodbye the rest of the installed game, that's RAID0 for you.
Assume you going for RAID0 I can tell you're ready for frequent image (sort of backup) of your games, this is an advice.

Anyway, don't forget to post your loads time between old PC and new one once you got hold of your new system, since it's going to be so powderful I can only drool. drool.gif
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QUOTE(pakji @ Aug 7 2014, 04:40 PM)
i no say i think 1TB Not enough
i say i think 2TB Not enough u eye blur i saying

old pc using normail hdd running win xp only
i wont use SSD FOR OLD PC
i understand i said i ordered EVO 840 X2 1TB TOTAL 2TB RAID0
if use RAID0 Get speed faster and 2TB
will die ssd for running RAID0 ????
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2TB not enough? Now that's news by looking at the total games you going to install (< 500GB).
Unless you want to keep all the games, including old which you may not play frequently but do keep for sake of no need to install later?
You can always buy another 2 units of 1TB (in the future?) and RAID0 4 units of SSD = 4TB.
Going Pro for OS and RAID0, don't think that will help much in terms of loading the OS, unless you have other huge IO intensive programs, RAID0 don't help much in OS boot.

RAID0 will not kill the SSD, but failure of one SSD will kill your data, that's RAID0 weakness. If you feel reinstalling all the games is troublesome, do image backup occasionally will help you save the time to do so.
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QUOTE(pakji @ Aug 8 2014, 12:23 AM)
A dedicated RAID card is nice for extreme RAID (performance) but it has its downside as well, if you're serious about latency and stuff, dedicated RAID card is a way to go, no need to get 10x SATA board in order to use its inferior RAID chips (not to say Intel is bad). whistling.gif

ronaldjoe is taigo in storage sections, his opinions is good advise. thumbup.gif

I can't afford to play with RAID card yet, but surely will goes into this when I'm desperate enough. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Aug 24 2014, 07:42 PM)
Thanks for quick respond. Yes. I got an old PC that running Old Intel Duo Core CPU. Recently my old Samsung 500GB HDD are getting error and ask me to backup or repair etc. So decided to get an cheap SSD to speed up the performance and swap the HDD as secondary storage.

Any cheap 80GB or lower SSD to recommend me? I don't think I need 120GB as my 500GB can't even use reach 50GB sweat.gif Is for my parents browsing and surfing purposes.
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Anything between 60~120GB is not worth the price right now, unless you're seriously on budget, 120GB can be have for under RM300 for most known brand.
Also, SSD has a weakness, available space below 15% will incur some performance hits and pretty much noticeable when writing data (saving documents, shutting down OSes ex. Windows)
60GB, if you can find, is around RM200? Topup around RM100 more to double... sweat.gif And the performance is also better, the sweet price range now is 250GB but that's probably still high for some, RM4xx~5xx hmm.gif
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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Aug 25 2014, 09:59 AM)
Hmm.. Yeah.. I do aware of the SSD price for 120GB is around RM250-300 range, like Plextor/Intel/Samsung.

Because I was thinking, if I just get the WD Caviar Blue 500GB was like RM150++, why not get a SSD with the price range. hmm.gif
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Erm, HDD is... bigger space? Totally different category, can't compare. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ReverseDark @ Sep 11 2014, 09:28 PM)
issit normal for SSD to have high response time eg 3000 ms? sweat.gif
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Does it only peak at certain time or almost always?
Do you runs anything or copying huge files when you saw that value?


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