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post Nov 3 2014, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(silrave @ Nov 3 2014, 04:08 PM)
haha what i saw is ssd intel is 5 years
samsung is 3 years

but ssd will easy spoil  ?
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Easy spoilt as in? Physical abuse? or Benchmark Write abuse?
If physical abuse, it'll depends on the severity, if just a knock or vibration won't be able to kill it (even under operation), if you use hammer or dip in water then it'll void the warranty right away. shakehead.gif
Benchmark is usually done few times to confirm your performance optimization, other than that, you won't need benchmarks all the time, so Write cycle of the NAND should last you decades to come with normal daily usage. Downloads and BT will be another story. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(horns @ Nov 4 2014, 10:23 PM)
oh. viewnet@899?

edit: update - jayacom@858.
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We've got even lower.
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Crucial MX100 512GB 2.5” 7mm [Read : 550MB/s | Write : 500MB/s ] 3yrs warranty RM829 , Promo RM770

From Hikari85, but I think the promo ends already, still the normal price seems lower. hmm.gif
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post Nov 6 2014, 07:38 AM

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QUOTE(chinkw1 @ Nov 6 2014, 07:31 AM)
Tq bro for feedback.. =)
There r 2 types of pcie SSD.
1- PCIE SSD that connects to M.2 socket.
2- PCIE SSD that connects to PCIE slots. (just like a graphic card)

Which type is better & faster??
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1. I believe this is the small size only SSD, as small as the size of laptop wireless card.
2. This is the full lane PCI-E SSD meant for desktop/tower chassis only, mostly enterprise and/or high-end server.

If you want the faster, definitely the 2nd, no doubt, uses Enterprise grade NAND and full lane bandwidth. brows.gif
But you're bound to only tower chassis, M.2 is usually for laptop especially those very slim type which can't fit the normal SATA SSD.
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QUOTE(rurushu @ Nov 6 2014, 09:59 AM)
are M.2 slots only for smalls? because the recent X99 motherboard offerings from Asus and Asrock have included M.2 slots as well...

and just a quick question, when it says using PCIe SSDs, it gains the speed of PCIe bus' speed, but does that means it is also competing with other PCIe components for example, multiple GPU for the PCIe lanes?  hmm.gif
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https://www.google.com.my/search?q=x99+m.2+...iw=1280&bih=923
M.2 slot, FYI

It will probably shares the same lanes or has its own controller over different lane(s), most likely (IMO) it should be different controller, doesn't want too much interrupt to decrease the overall GPU performance. sweat.gif
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post Nov 6 2014, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(nvidia134 @ Nov 6 2014, 12:10 PM)
Bro Horns!!

Any other SSD you can recommend other than Intel 730? Seems like this SSD no instock need orer 2-3 weeks from hikari85

Thx
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I just ordered from lingloong for Intel 730 for 1 of my customer, probably on its way.
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QUOTE(snnchw88 @ Nov 6 2014, 03:21 PM)
Hi, Chin,

Yea. I know that. I wondering if it will affect the boot up speed as well? just for my knowledge if it is so  ~
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Erm, if your posted link is your actual mainboard, it's unfortunately you don't have any SATA3 (6Gbps) port.
SATA2 won't have much difference with your boot time, SSD is always faster than HDD.
The only difference is only the max speed, which is the sequential read/write speed which is advertise by every vendor.
Your best bet is the 4K read/write, that's the most important, it determines your daily usage speed, without compression. wink.gif

According to the link, Intel only provide 6x ports, blue color, connect to that for optimum performance, the black one is JMicron, may slow.
If you do can install your Windows fresh into the SSD and still having BSOD, best is to unplug all other connected devices, like other HDDs, other USB devices other than your necessity, try with the most basic hardware and report here again.
If all fail... erm... maybe try to access and format your SSD using your installed OS on your HDD, it could be just a bad SSD.
And do benchmark from there... hmm.gif Well, rare case, need more white ratz experiments testing... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(snnchw88 @ Nov 6 2014, 05:03 PM)
Hi, bro,

Thanks for your clear explanation abt my case here.

Well, I will get back to you guys with my bios setup. Btw, i can fresh installed OS in the SSD, but it's boot time same like normal HDD. The sata II only affect the write/read speed for the file exploring in the SSD,no?

Appreciate so much ~
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Erm, is it successfully boot into your freshly installed Windows?
What Windows you installed? Windows 7? 8?

Please do let us know how many seconds from pressing the power button to your Desktop.
And after booting, runs some benchmark on it, and (notice it's Kingston HyperX shakehead.gif ) do post the result here. wink.gif
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QUOTE(nvidia134 @ Nov 7 2014, 12:30 AM)
I didn't know lingloong got sell Intel SSD. Lol.. didn't see any under his thread.
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Yes, he's selling under his Intel thread (for every Intel products).

QUOTE(nvidia134 @ Nov 7 2014, 12:32 AM)
Haha, now under budget already. Samsung 850 Pro is out from the list due to pricing. Any goods for Crucial MX100? The SSD you recommend mostly is on MLC nand?
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Many suggest MLC and many higher end products still using MLC is because it's a matured technology, it has been proven so with all the products released out there, 840EVO is probably one of their white ratz (sorry no offence here) for their next 860 Pro offering? Till they're mature enough, then those vendors will dive into it hard and deep.
If you don't care little differences of those performance, Intel 530 is the way to go, you won't miss those few hundred of miliseconds in everyday's task, not until you're doing IO intensive task (database testing anyone?).

p/s: You can use [quote] to minimize multi-replies in a thread, click [+quote] of the posts then click [Add reply] at the bottom. wink.gif
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QUOTE(nvidia134 @ Nov 7 2014, 12:05 PM)
Thanks for the info.
Thanks!! Thanks. Is MX100 newer or MX550 newer? Any feedback on this? Since like it's not worth to go for Intel 730 SSD?
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MX100 is the lower-end, M550 is the higher-end, just like Samsung EVO and Pro, each with their own advantage, MX100 is definitely a good choice for performance/value.

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QUOTE(snnchw88 @ Nov 7 2014, 04:54 PM)
hi, Will,

i just checked my bios setting is using IDE, because if i set to ACHI, it will become blue screen right after the window logo is starting to form.

I was installing Window 7.. now can boot using IDE setting. need about 10 sec ..

How to do benchmark on my SSD?
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10 seconds? Slow? sweat.gif Alright... I think my SSD is now darn slow... doh.gif
Benchmarks software can be found on first page of this thread.
Btw, it's best to set as AHCI for TRIM (long term performance gains), you can set in the registry setting first before turn on at the BIOS, hope this help, and erm... try to look at the first page for more detail on this.

Good luck. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(selinix @ Nov 13 2014, 09:15 PM)
I am looking for a 256GB SSD to improve the user experience of my 6 years old dekstop.. What are some good recommendations with budget below RM450?
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QUOTE(horns @ Nov 12 2014, 04:19 PM)
so far, no one can beat intel 530 yet if you take its 5-year warranty period into considerations.

honestly, it's better for you to do some research yourself. (i.e. check all price list available; scout garage sales) some ssd's have price tags below 400 per piece.
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Seriously some ppl can't read even the last post? doh.gif
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QUOTE(snnchw88 @ Nov 17 2014, 07:02 PM)
Hi, Will,

Like sifu horn suggest, yea.. now in AHCI mode without BSOD by setting the mode to AHCI mode before fresh install the Window 7...

Below is my benchmark test for Sata2 (3Gbps) port :-

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Any comment?
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This pretty much sum it up, Kingston is pretty darn slow... kidding aside, that's what you get for using SATA2, still pretty decent for booting and running office programs (Microsoft Office) and light usage on graphics and 3Ds programs.
You won't get the maximum speed, but you're utilizing the potential of response speed, that's the latency between each IO, almost 10x faster than using normal HDD, getting small files over the sea of scattered data is one of the SSD main objective over HDD. wink.gif
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QUOTE(Endevor @ Nov 24 2014, 04:20 PM)
Hi all,

I'm planning to get a SSD for my friend for Christmas.

I saw someone selling Transcend SSD SSD370 512Gb for Rm670.

My friend loves to have those old classic games (like Dragon Age O?, Mass Effect and etc) installed and updated in his system so that he can just launch the game to replay them whenever he wants. So that's why he told me he prefers at least a 500Gb SSD drive.

But i read from the first page of this thread, no mentioned of Transcend SSD, is this brand not good at all?

Rm670 for 512Gb SSD is the cheapest i managed to find in LYN.

Any feedback will be appreciated.

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According to Review, it's a good buy.
http://proclockers.com/reviews/storage/tra...view?page=0%2C2
If it is a 512GB that you're looking for, it is definitely bang for buck.

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QUOTE(saru04 @ Nov 27 2014, 03:57 AM)
Thanks for the reply.

If SAMSUNG 850 Pro is currently the best I think I will go for it.

Anyone know the market price for it? For both 256GB and 512GB?

I dont really have much to store. Just OS and one or two games.

Will 256GB be sufficient for me?

And also do recommend me a shop that sells the SSD and also help out with installation.
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I think I can only find 1 seller with cheap price for Samsung, but the Pro is definitely high priced.
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256GB or 512GB will depends on your usage, if you're going to install many games at once, choose the bigger brother, otherwise 256GB should suffice for most current titles (i.e. COD:AW, Ryse of Rome, MMO, some other programs...)
And not to forget that SSD's Trim also depends on the space provisioning, 15% for optimum performance, so max you can use is around 210GB (256GB) and 420GB (512GB) respectively. wink.gif

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QUOTE(Aivihc @ Nov 27 2014, 12:08 PM)
I just bought new Intel 530 SSD (240gb).. my problem is the SSD boots fast but slow logging into Windows? (the time you type in your password) anyone know whats going on?
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1. Fresh install? Clone?
2. Have you installed any other running programs, try "msconfig" to check your startup.

QUOTE(saru04 @ Nov 27 2014, 01:52 PM)
Okay. So far the things I plan to put into the SSD are:
1) My OS
2) Steam with Dota 2
3) Microsoft Office

Will 256GB be sufficient?
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Ok, that was plenty of left over, you're fine with 256GB, can install 2 more latest title... brows.gif
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QUOTE(saru04 @ Nov 28 2014, 01:44 PM)
Lol. Okay. Then I shall go for 256GB.

When they replaced my HDD out, can I convert it to external hard disk use it for storage?
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If your laptop has disc drive, you can convert it to put your hard disk in, dual storage. thumbup.gif
But if no, you can just buy USB3 SATA (not sure if hard to find one hmm.gif ) to plug it in as external.
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Nov 30 2014, 01:27 AM)
Just got myself Crucial MX100 256GB, never knew my pc can load things so fast now  sweat.gif
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You can never turn back now... using other PC loaded with only HDD will make you cry.gif or yawn.gif .
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QUOTE(Clumsy_JJ @ Dec 1 2014, 04:58 PM)
Hi guys.

Looking for a 120GB SSD for my new pc. Just wish can boots my window 8.1 load time. Got a few choice here.

1. Kingston HyperX Fury
2. Samsung 840 Evo
3. Plextro M6S

Since the price is not much different, can anyone suggest me which one is better?

Know tht samsung got new update firmware for bug fix, is it i have to install the bug fix software if i bought the samsung 840 evo series??

Thanks For ur suggestion....
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No.2, no doubt, fastest among all 3, if no then go Plextor M6S, if no choice baru go Kingston... sweat.gif
Oh, if you have choice of Intel also not bad, the 530 is good, same price range and got 5 year warranty. wink.gif
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QUOTE(Clumsy_JJ @ Dec 1 2014, 06:06 PM)
Thanks for ur comment. Then how about the bug fixed firmware update bug fixed for samsung? Is it i need to install the update if i use samsung ???

Thanks
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hmm.gif Now this one have to ask Samsung sifu the method to check the firmware upon booting the SSD, then flash if the firmware is not updated.

QUOTE(charkoteow3 @ Dec 1 2014, 06:11 PM)
idk if this is the right place to ask but here goes.

im planning to add an SSD into my workstation. (mainly for adobe illustrator and photoshop)
will there be bottleneck issues if I reinstall everything (my softwares) into the SSD but leaving the OS in my current  HDD?

too lazy to install the OS again.
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If you setup the workspace all into the SSD, then it should be fast, not sure if pagefile will affect the speed or not. hmm.gif
If you don't wish to re-install the OS, there's migrating tools to help you move from HDD to SSD. wink.gif
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QUOTE(Clumsy_JJ @ Dec 1 2014, 06:43 PM)
Icic, like tht is it better i go for Plextor or Intel to avoid the problem?

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Most of the Samsung sifu had already reported the firmware does fix the issue, just know the firmware upon installing it, check if it's updated, if it's not then just flash update it, simple as that, it's even faster if you're flashing an empty SSD, then forward to installing whatever you want on it. wink.gif

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