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nyunyu
post Nov 30 2013, 02:03 AM

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Guys, I'm planning to get an SSD to add to my macbook pro, can you suggest which SSD should I go for in terms of best performance? Intel 530 series any good?

Also, can I make the SSD as primary (sitting in DVD bay using caddy) and use the existing hdd as slave?
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post Nov 30 2013, 10:28 AM

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OCZ died make sure you are not cheated by the dealer
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post Nov 30 2013, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(nyunyu @ Nov 30 2013, 02:03 AM)
Guys, I'm planning to get an SSD to add to my macbook pro, can you suggest which SSD should I go for in terms of best performance? Intel 530 series any good?

Also, can I make the SSD as primary (sitting in DVD bay using caddy) and use the existing hdd as slave?
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I'm considering between Intel 530, Corsair Force LS and Plextor M5S. But I can't really find intel 530 is available in KL.
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post Dec 1 2013, 06:36 PM

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Corsair GS or Neutron GTX?
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post Dec 1 2013, 11:49 PM

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guys, i want to get samsung 840 pro but i am worry about the warranty service as i heard there is no samsung ssd distributor here, so how you guys or them to deal with warranty issue?? otherwise i will like to get corsair neutron gtx or non gtx as i am satisfied with their warranty services. thanks.
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post Dec 1 2013, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(KajumaO2 @ Dec 1 2013, 06:36 PM)
Corsair GS or Neutron GTX?
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gtx i think, if ur budget is enough.
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post Dec 2 2013, 09:28 AM

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http://www.anandtech.com/show/7549/ocz-fil...-buy-the-assets

OCZ is dead. Suck for users who need warranty support.

Toshiba is top NAND producer. If it acquire OCZ engineering expertise on controller, it could be interesting.
More competition is always better for consumer.


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post Dec 2 2013, 07:13 PM

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juz got myself a plextor ssd. the shop that i visited didnt carry other brand. so am wondering is this a good 1? i heard their rams are not that good in terms of quality.
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post Dec 3 2013, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Dec 2 2013, 09:28 AM)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7549/ocz-fil...-buy-the-assets

OCZ is dead. Suck for users who need warranty support.

Toshiba is top NAND producer. If it acquire OCZ engineering expertise on controller, it could be interesting.
More competition is always better for consumer.
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.. and with usd35mil, the warranty is back hehe

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/toshiba-corp...-002100301.html
http://ir.ocz.com/news/detail/3014/ocz-rea...-drive-business
http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2...for-35-million/

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post Dec 3 2013, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Dec 3 2013, 10:09 AM)
yup, was aware of that Toshiba offer, but It is actually pending bankruptcy court approval (could take some time).
Toshiba is giving OCZ "free" financing now (before that deal get approved) so that OCZ can still support its customers.
Even if the deal is successful, I think we will still see the end of OCZ brand (too much tainted history).
Toshiba has been a big player in the OEM SSD sphere. I really like to see it push into the retail market with this acquisition.
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post Dec 3 2013, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(Vio @ Dec 2 2013, 07:13 PM)
juz got myself a plextor ssd. the shop that i visited didnt carry other brand. so am wondering is this a good 1? i heard their rams are not that good in terms of quality.
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Plextor M5S (I supposed?) is a solid SSD tongue.gif
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post Dec 3 2013, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Dec 3 2013, 11:13 AM)
yup, was aware of that Toshiba offer, but It is actually pending bankruptcy court approval (could take some time).
Toshiba is giving OCZ "free" financing now (before that deal get approved) so that OCZ can still support its customers.
Even if the deal is successful, I think we will still see the end of OCZ brand (too much tainted history).
Toshiba has been a big player in the OEM SSD sphere. I really like to see it push into the retail market with this acquisition.
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toshiba has made its move in retail market. hopefully it will bring ssd's that have more values to us with this merger smile.gif

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post Dec 3 2013, 02:18 PM

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just a reminder to those planning to get secondhand SSD. Note that all SSDs have limited lifespan. Especially those made with MLC chips. Those more expensive using SLC will last a lot longer but price very very high.

So I can say nearly all are made using MLC which some said have 3000-5000 writes only. Whatever it is, just don't pay too high for secondhand SSDs.

Take note also TRIM is very important to make the drive last longer and long term performance.
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post Dec 3 2013, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Dec 3 2013, 11:14 AM)
Plextor M5S (I supposed?) is a solid SSD  tongue.gif
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haha not sure is there any other variant? coz my rig is my hometown
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post Dec 3 2013, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(Xiia0Ban @ Nov 30 2013, 11:20 AM)
I'm considering between Intel 530, Corsair Force LS and Plextor M5S. But I can't really find intel 530 is available in KL.
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Finally bought an Intel 530 OEM 240GB ssd from ksp_tech. Hope it will last long.
Now it sit nicely in my macbook pro and moved the hdd to optical bay. Boot time and apps load time really improved by miles!

So, for desktop, should I go for bigger size or 120gb is enough?
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post Dec 3 2013, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(abubin @ Dec 3 2013, 02:18 PM)
just a reminder to those planning to get secondhand SSD. Note that all SSDs have limited lifespan. Especially those made with MLC chips. Those more expensive using SLC will last a lot longer but price very very high.

So I can say nearly all are made using MLC which some said have 3000-5000 writes only. Whatever it is, just don't pay too high for secondhand SSDs.

Take note also TRIM is very important to make the drive last longer and long term performance.
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i appreciate your good intention. it's good to remind people about getting second-hand ssd's, because there are definite risks in obtaining one.

however to avoid giving people misconceptions on ssd's, i would like to add the following:

* '.. especially those made with mlc chips' - currently, we have 3 types of nand flash chip in ssd's: slc, mlc, and tlc. slc was said to have 100,000p/e cycles; mlc has 3,000-5,000 p/e cycles, and tlc has 1,000 p/e cycles. (actually we have another type called e-mlc, which was said to have about 20,000 to 30,000 p/e cycles) in general, most of current consumer and enthusiast ssd's are made with mlc chips.

* '.. which some said have 3000-5000 writes only' - this is supposed to mean mlc have '3000-5000 p/e cycles' (p/e is program/erase). this can translate into different outcomes that are depending on the actual capacity of the target ssd being used and how it is used (usage).

now imagine you have a 4gb ssd. you save a 4gb movie to this ssd. you watch the movie, and then delete it. you empty the recycle bin which triggers the trim command. the ssd's garbage collection now erases the movie from the ssd. 1 p/e cycle has now been used. (i.e. if you have 120gb ssd, 1 p/e cycle means you write and erase 120gb of data one time)

reading data has no effect on p/e cycles; only writing data and erasing data have.

some examples can be found here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6459/samsung...nce-of-tlc-nand

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post Dec 4 2013, 01:26 PM

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Most ppl use their ssd to run the os. This means there will be lots of write operations. Logging, virtual mem, caching, temp files....
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post Dec 4 2013, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Dec 3 2013, 11:14 AM)
Plextor M5S (I supposed?) is a solid SSD  tongue.gif
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damm hahha juz realize i bought mushkin not plextor... been reading too much till i myself confused my brand



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post Dec 4 2013, 01:53 PM

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Dealer already mention Geil, OCZ, Plextor,Corsair.
All these brands are hype-up brand spending money on low quality brand name and un-reliable.
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post Dec 4 2013, 05:39 PM

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Got my Samsung 840EVO 120gb SSD from Viewnet.

In the price list and box listed 3 years warranty, so I guess if anything happen can go through them to claim warranty (forgot to ask them directly about it though).

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