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post Nov 10 2013, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(BillySteel @ Nov 10 2013, 01:35 PM)
Normally the company will pay for your training or they will forward you an advance for the amount.

At KLCC Medical Center for Petronas projects medical was about RM450-ish.... with Shell medical (shell requires the extra questionnaires for its projects) + another RM100++. Prices you can call the clinics to find out.The other operators I am not so sure.

I only heard of 3 centers in Malaysia for BOSIET OPITO approved, one of them is ALAM (Melaka), MSTS (Johor) and another one not sure Miri?
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post Nov 10 2013, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(orangminyak2013 @ Nov 9 2013, 11:12 PM)
U mean the 12 hours work shift?
Whats ur on n off work schedule?
What makes u so anxious about the job?
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yea. schedule is pretty much similar to other offshore personnel.
not necessarily anxious of the job but the disorder cause me insomnia since small.
have to take medication these days rclxub.gif .

typical offshore life as u see involves loads of travelling, hometown > airport > stay overnight hotel > wait pickup > helibase > rig
i'm not the person who can take a nap when i want lol.
there's more but i'll keep that to myself.
just working in office doing something related to my to course is already a blessing to me than rotting at home.

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post Nov 10 2013, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(elijah3art @ Nov 10 2013, 10:10 AM)
yea. schedule is pretty much similar to other offshore personnel.
not necessarily anxious of the job but the disorder cause me insomnia since small.
have to take medication these days  rclxub.gif .

typical offshore life as u see involves loads of travelling, hometown > airport > stay overnight hotel > wait pickup > helibase > rig
i'm not the person who can take a nap when i want lol.
there's more but i'll keep that to myself.
just working in office doing something related to my to course is already a blessing to me than rotting at home.
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A lot of my colleague who are now successful Geologist started their career as a mudlogger. Cheer up and try your best. Tailor your CV by emphasising your mudlogging experience and also put some of the "team work" and understanding client needs stuff.

Good luck.

This post has been edited by azraeil: Nov 10 2013, 03:20 PM
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post Nov 10 2013, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(azraeil @ Nov 10 2013, 03:20 PM)
A lot of my colleague who are now successful Geologist started their career as a mudlogger. Cheer up and try your best. Tailor your CV by emphasising your mudlogging experience and also put some of the "team work" and understanding client needs stuff.

Good luck.
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Thank you bro.
Not sure if it's appropriate to state this here.. but as many would have know, mudlogging is an infamous segment for various reasons.
But it's 'toughness' made many including myself to be tougher, not necessarily in terms of technical aspects but how to cope in the corporate world.
Yea I'd friends working in geophysical segments tell me that mudlogging is important, of how they derive knowledge from the mudlog but I doubted my experience ensure my employability in other segments considering I myself constantly heard from my senior colleagues who stuck in the mudlogging
segment due to its irrelevance to other job aspects.
I applied and tailored my CV for a period of more than a year but to no avail. I guess I would fare decently in interview but I got no chance to prove myself mad.gif .
Hahaha... I guess I should follow the conventional wisdom, "expect the worst, hope for the best". icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Nov 10 2013, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(elijah3art @ Nov 10 2013, 11:02 AM)
Thank you bro. 
Not sure if it's appropriate to state this here.. but as many would have know, mudlogging is an infamous segment for various reasons.
But it's 'toughness' made many including myself to be tougher, not necessarily in terms of technical aspects but how to cope in the corporate world.
Yea I'd friends working in geophysical segments tell me that mudlogging is important, of how they derive knowledge from the mudlog but I doubted my experience ensure my employability in other segments considering I myself constantly heard from my senior colleagues who stuck in the mudlogging
segment due to its irrelevance to other job aspects.
I applied and tailored my CV for a period of more than a year but to no avail. I guess I would fare decently in interview but I got no chance to prove myself  mad.gif .
Hahaha... I guess I should follow the conventional wisdom, "expect the worst, hope for the best".  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Rule of thumb is to not stay for more than 2 years doing mudlogging. Because there's not much you can learn anymore after 2 years. With 2 years experience, other companies will also start looking at your CV differently. Try as best as you can, bear with it and gain as much experience and hopefully people will be able to see your worth

Good Luck.
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post Nov 10 2013, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(meonkutu11 @ Nov 9 2013, 06:50 AM)
I wonder if you guys from a top-ranked university and from top & hottest course in the university don't you have a good alumni member in the industry? Perhaps some of them now a Sr. Eng or Managers that you can contact and ask for advise.

Or you are a kind of person that not really have a good relationship with the seniors or peers. Not bother about the 'networking' factor....

I'm myself not really good in our course 'persatuan' and worse is not really know our juniors. Fortunately, we get along with our senior batch as some of the seniors taking same subject with us (extend 1-2 semesters are common during my time/ in my uni). Besides 'rezeki', one of the factor that I can't ignore is that I knew my senior working there and the recruitment manager that time also knew him very well.

So just my 1 cent, start building up your networking not only when in the industry but from 1st day in Uni; with your peers, seniors and also juniors as well as lecturers...Who knows they will acknowledge and willing to help you later.

Goodluck...
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You are right there meonkut11, I did not network much in my university days. It could be inferiority complex, but at the time I did not see the point of networking if my academics didn't show for it. You could say I was ashamed. I decided to just work on bringing up my grades to a respectable level but it never did work out. Yes I did hang out with my seniors in university, but most of them are employed with Petronas, and the rare alumnis that I could find on LinkedIn, well let's just say I subscribe to the belief that any referrals should be based on the referee's knowledge of that individual's merits and strengths, and my low gpa doesn't help matters much. But like someone pointed out earlier, enough about gpa and grades, I've already had my little rant back there and what's done is done. For now I'm just getting back to the grind and hoping for the best. Thanks for the list of drilling contractors too, I will check them out!

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post Nov 11 2013, 02:00 AM

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Hi,
What is the difference in the job scope for a drilling engineer working for a contractor versus one working for an operator?
Would it be that the operator DE completes the drilling design, while the contractor DE implements the design? So I'm guessing the contractor DE job is more hands-on, i.e. he has to smooth the paper design down for practical implementation as he is more well-versed with the drilling rig?

Also, is a contractor DE seen as less desirable by operators, and vice versa?

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post Nov 11 2013, 02:38 AM

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QUOTE(azraeil @ Nov 10 2013, 05:54 PM)
Rule of thumb is to not stay for more than 2 years doing mudlogging. Because there's not much you can learn anymore after 2 years. With 2 years experience, other companies will also start looking at your CV differently. Try as best as you can, bear with it and gain as much experience and hopefully people will be able to see your worth

Good Luck.
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bro would you say the same about drilling/completion?? the 2 years period, does it apply. going to reach that landmark soon and was thinking of braching on to another subsection of the drilling/completion then the one im currently in.
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post Nov 11 2013, 02:43 AM

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QUOTE(heliosi @ Nov 11 2013, 02:00 AM)
Hi,
What is the difference in  the  job scope for a drilling engineer working for a contractor versus one working for an operator?
Would it be that the operator DE completes the drilling design, while the contractor DE implements the design? So I'm guessing the contractor DE job is more hands-on, i.e. he has to smooth the paper design down for practical implementation as he is more well-versed with the drilling rig?

Also, is a contractor DE seen as less desirable by operators, and vice versa?
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DE in drilling contractor sometimes known as operations engineer or rig engineer. Some of the position is really exist and some just created as part of the contract (request by client)

Some of the job scopes that I know are;

1. Assisting rig manager with the daily operations
2. Assisting Rig asset manager with the rig move, rig modification, upgrades, or shipyard project. Also develop work scope for the class survey i.e UWILD
3. Sometime become next focal point to the client (DE will request info about the rig equipments, or any info related to the rig for the next well location or other project)
4. Perform the operational audits.
5. Gathering the information from the rig crews (OIM or Barge Supervisor) for the rig modification or upgrade
6. PArticipate in operational meeting i.e DWOP, AAR, etc
7. Assisting Rig manager and rig asset manager preparing the budget.
8. Sometime coordinate third party personnel to come onboard to perform inspections.


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post Nov 11 2013, 02:45 AM

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QUOTE(heliosi @ Nov 10 2013, 07:52 PM)
You are right there meonkut11, I did not network much in my university days. It could be inferiority complex, but at the time I did not see the point of networking if my academics didn't show for it. You could say I was ashamed. I decided to just work on bringing up my grades to a respectable level but it never did work out. Yes I did hang out with my seniors in university, but most of them are employed with Petronas, and the rare alumnis that I could find on LinkedIn, well let's just say I subscribe to the belief that any referrals should be based on the referee's knowledge of that individual's merits and strengths, and my low gpa doesn't help matters much. But like someone pointed out earlier, enough about gpa and grades, I've already had my little rant back there and what's done is done. For now I'm just getting back to the grind and hoping for the best. Thanks for the list of drilling contractors too, I will check them out!
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I cannot believe you are one who claims to have low cpga.

Not many veterans can write like you.

You are good enough. Just tweak your strategy.


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post Nov 11 2013, 03:01 AM

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QUOTE(heliosi @ Nov 10 2013, 07:52 PM)
You are right there meonkut11, I did not network much in my university days. It could be inferiority complex, but at the time I did not see the point of networking if my academics didn't show for it. You could say I was ashamed. I decided to just work on bringing up my grades to a respectable level but it never did work out. Yes I did hang out with my seniors in university, but most of them are employed with Petronas, and the rare alumnis that I could find on LinkedIn, well let's just say I subscribe to the belief that any referrals should be based on the referee's knowledge of that individual's merits and strengths, and my low gpa doesn't help matters much. But like someone pointed out earlier, enough about gpa and grades, I've already had my little rant back there and what's done is done. For now I'm just getting back to the grind and hoping for the best. Thanks for the list of drilling contractors too, I will check them out!
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I'm having inferiority complex too. In fact it's a quite prevalent issue. On top of that, (I'm no racist at all), but Geology at least in my university is essentially 90% Malays. As a Chinese, I'm not a mandarin speaker either therefore I'm basically a loner in my initial years. To not have network is pretty disastrous in many ways haha as in having friends to sign your attendance, to revise with, to share notes with, having a study group, to get tips from lecturer who often pass it to certain students =.=''. It's disastrous to working world too lmao. In my final years, I've become good friends with them as I emerged out my unfriendly shell. Plus me not attending classes due to insomnia, my cgpa dropped like atomic bomb to ground zero and I'd tried hard to pull it to 2.9, abit more to second upper cry.gif
Now I'm spending time at home playing guitar singing Sedihpilu hatiku tanpa kerja whistling.gif
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post Nov 11 2013, 03:31 AM

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QUOTE(elijah3art @ Nov 10 2013, 03:10 PM)
yea. schedule is pretty much similar to other offshore personnel.
not necessarily anxious of the job but the disorder cause me insomnia since small.
have to take medication these days  rclxub.gif .

typical offshore life as u see involves loads of travelling, hometown > airport > stay overnight hotel > wait pickup > helibase > rig
i'm not the person who can take a nap when i want lol.
there's more but i'll keep that to myself.
just working in office doing something related to my to course is already a blessing to me than rotting at home.
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Sounds like u better get an office job soon.
Then hundreds of hopeful candidates can apply for ur mudlogger job and give them a chance for a better life.


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post Nov 11 2013, 03:36 AM

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QUOTE(meonkutu11 @ Nov 11 2013, 02:43 AM)
DE in drilling contractor sometimes known as operations engineer or rig engineer. Some of the position is really exist and some just created as part of the contract (request by client)

Some of the job scopes that I know are;

1. Assisting rig manager with the daily operations
2. Assisting Rig asset manager with the rig move, rig modification, upgrades, or shipyard project. Also develop work scope for the class survey i.e UWILD
3. Sometime become next focal point to the client (DE will request info about the rig equipments, or any info related to the rig for the next well location or other project)
4. Perform the operational audits.
5. Gathering the information from the rig crews (OIM or Barge Supervisor) for the rig modification or upgrade
6. PArticipate in operational meeting i.e DWOP, AAR, etc
7. Assisting Rig manager and rig asset manager preparing the budget.
8. Sometime coordinate third party personnel to come onboard to perform inspections.
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Those are the work that meonkutu has to do with his fat paycheck. Hehehe

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post Nov 11 2013, 04:03 AM

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[quote=orangminyak2013,Nov 11 2013, 03:31 AM]
Dont eat too much in the galley and watch too many movies in the unit ok.
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Don't be too harsh bro..We're working as a team...

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Those are the work that meonkutu has to do with his fat paycheck. But with a lot of money , some people also has to sacrifice things he or she loves the most.[QUOTE]

hehehe..you seem know a lot bro... hmm.gif But not bold part..
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QUOTE(mhyug @ Nov 10 2013, 09:38 PM)
bro would you say the same about drilling/completion?? the 2 years period, does it apply. going to reach that landmark soon and was thinking of braching on to another subsection of the drilling/completion then the one im currently in.
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No. Drilling & Completion is a different beast altogether. The longer you stay, the higher your value. Once you hit the 5 year mark, most Middle East companies will be interested (though having an experience working with an Operator will increase your value further). 7 years, your value of will start skyrocketing ... 10 years experience, you can basically ask whatever you want (Day rate contractm 28/28 contract ...)
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QUOTE(Stamp @ Nov 10 2013, 03:00 PM)
i hope the contractor who gets the contract will perform better than the previous contractor. it seems to me that the single contract like this indirectly promotes non-competitiveness and affects the quality of the work. it's really frustrating watching the 'tidak-apa' attitude of the previous Pan Msian contractor when we were desperate to meet the installation date target of our new facilities. rasa mcm nak terajang jer... sad.gif
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Not much qualities in our local workforce which contributes to project delays. Lots of repeating works. But...

Sometimes, clients also one kind. During engineering, all depends on Consultant and EPCIC contractor to check on everything. Client's side punya engineering, punya operation don't want to get involved and don't check properly. When it is time for construction, baru want to comment here and there. Site already done the job then baru come in tunjuk hero. When construction done, then comm team pulak masuk tunjuk hero one more round, then after that operation pulak. If everything is signed off and agreed by everyone during engineering stage, the rest of the process will not be too difficult to handle and reduce double works.

Also, these days, "fast track project" is being abused kaw-kaw. Detailed engineering not like it used to be, now it is only like 3-4 months only. Consultants have mountains of deliverables, and most of the time didn't get approval from client within the approved turnaround period. In the end, construction starts before AFC.

How lah? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(BillySteel @ Nov 10 2013, 01:35 PM)
Normally the company will pay for your training or they will forward you an advance for the amount.

At KLCC Medical Center for Petronas projects medical was about RM450-ish.... with Shell medical (shell requires the extra questionnaires for its projects) + another RM100++. Prices you can call the clinics to find out.The other operators I am not so sure.

I only heard of 3 centers in Malaysia for BOSIET OPITO approved, one of them is ALAM (Melaka), MSTS (Johor) and another one not sure Miri?
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If your medical report tak pass, go to Miri, sure can pass. If you want short-cut BOSIET, go to Miri, sure cepat. laugh.gif
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post Nov 12 2013, 01:54 AM

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Just completed my med check up. Need to blow almost 20 times for lung capacity test.


Semput oii. The final one also tak lepas limit. Haha. Luckily Exxon med team deemed me fit for work. sweat.gif


Anyway will join Subsurface dept. Anyone can recommend any good reading material before I report duty?


Got some time to kill off might as well study a bit on the terms and jargons. If not in first day blur saja.


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post Nov 12 2013, 04:47 AM

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QUOTE(papoyapoy @ Nov 12 2013, 01:54 AM)
Just completed my med check up.  Need to blow almost 20 times for lung capacity test.
Semput oii. The final one also tak lepas limit. Haha. Luckily Exxon med team deemed me fit for work.  sweat.gif
Anyway will join Subsurface dept. Anyone can recommend any good reading material before I report duty?
Got some time to kill off might as well study a bit on the terms and jargons. If not in first day blur saja.
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I don't know your background, and this may introduce more unfamiliar terms. Well, it will. lolol
An overview online resource: http://www.rigzone.com/training/howitworks.asp

Sections are listed in alphabetical order so I recommend starting with:

Geology
Drilling Equipment + Drilling Support Services
Completions
Production <-- Probably most relevant for your dept
Workover

Piping, Floating Production System, LNG, can be next

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QUOTE(noruazumi @ Nov 11 2013, 10:49 PM)
If your medical report tak pass, go to Miri, sure can pass. If you want short-cut BOSIET, go to Miri, sure cepat.  laugh.gif
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i will be doing my offshore medical check up this week. i just want to ask is it hard to pass? i'm kinda worried but i don't have any health problems though

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