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 Inspira vs Forte, Which is better value for money?

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post Jul 1 2013, 12:11 AM

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TS better ask in serious kopitiam else u want bring ur unker to sepang trackday
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post Jul 1 2013, 02:50 AM

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QUOTE(WilliamHoo @ Jun 29 2013, 09:00 AM)
TS

care to sexplain wat criteria in choosing ur ride?

Power
Gadgets
Handling
FC
The Looks
The Brand????
Value For Money

in term of Spirited Driving for me
Inspira Rulessssssss
just my personal opinion

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Sorry for being gone for sometimes guys

I don't really mind about the brand actually, that's why Proton is in my consideration

Things i look for in my future ride:
+First and foremost, value for money.
+Then comfortable to transport 3-4 people (once in a week or two, weekend family car)
+One i could use for a very long time (not planning to change car in 10 years maybe)
+Good amount of room for rear seat and boot
+preferably sedan car (i'm somewhat a sucker for looks too)
+Safe ride
+gadgets are good, i'd love if they had a lot gadgets installed but these could be installed after the car is purchased. Gadgets i'd want to have would be Navigator and Reverse cam
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post Jul 1 2013, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(imwhoiam @ Jul 1 2013, 02:50 AM)
Sorry for being gone for sometimes guys

I don't really mind about the brand actually, that's why Proton is in my consideration

Things i look for in my future ride:
+First and foremost, value for money.
+Then comfortable to transport 3-4 people (once in a week or two, weekend family car)
+One i could use for a very long time (not planning to change car in 10 years maybe)
+Good amount of room for rear seat and boot
+preferably sedan car (i'm somewhat a sucker for looks too)
+Safe ride
+gadgets are good, i'd love if they had a lot gadgets installed but these could be installed after the car is purchased. Gadgets i'd want to have would be Navigator and Reverse cam
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RM69k after discount for 2.0E inspira
yesterday suppose the last day
maybe you should check with the SA?
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post Jul 1 2013, 08:38 AM

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wow 69k, thats cheap, good buy if can get that price.
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post Jul 1 2013, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Jul 1 2013, 08:11 AM)
RM69k after discount for 2.0E inspira
yesterday suppose the last day
maybe you should check with the SA?
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Wow... that's extremely good price. Is that the one shown by one of the reply here? Autofest Penang?

Yesterday i did gave one of the forummer dealer a call and asked about 2.0P. Didn't hear him saying anything about the 2.0E selling at that price.

Probably i should ask him later. Thanks for the info.
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post Jul 1 2013, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(imwhoiam @ Jul 1 2013, 09:40 AM)
Wow... that's extremely good price. Is that the one shown by one of the reply here? Autofest Penang?

Yesterday i did gave one of the forummer dealer a call and asked about 2.0P. Didn't hear him saying anything about the 2.0E selling at that price.

Probably i should ask him later. Thanks for the info.
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yes at DRB auto fest. Honestly if my financial allow i dont mind getting another manual rclxms.gif
people might say i crazy thou whistling.gif
a few fella at inspira thread already booked either 2.0E or the 1.8MT
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post Jul 3 2013, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(imwhoiam @ Jul 1 2013, 02:50 AM)
Sorry for being gone for sometimes guys

I don't really mind about the brand actually, that's why Proton is in my consideration

Things i look for in my future ride:
+First and foremost, value for money.
+Then comfortable to transport 3-4 people (once in a week or two, weekend family car)
+One i could use for a very long time (not planning to change car in 10 years maybe)
+Good amount of room for rear seat and boot
+preferably sedan car (i'm somewhat a sucker for looks too)
+Safe ride
+gadgets are good, i'd love if they had a lot gadgets installed but these could be installed after the car is purchased. Gadgets i'd want to have would be Navigator and Reverse cam
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I think u just made your choice if u managed to get the DRB discounted Inspira

Thumbs up

u can have lotsa gadgets with ur new found ride

ASC
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KOS

wat is that?
Come TT

u know where to find us

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post Jul 3 2013, 12:13 AM

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those are not aftermarket gadgets yo

u will be amazed


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post Jul 3 2013, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jun 30 2013, 12:22 PM)
See... 1.8 campro!
who says inspira no campro
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1.8 Campro do exist, but in a hovercraft.
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post Jul 3 2013, 05:38 PM

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just asking,in term cost for service and maintanance,which one more cost effective..
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post Jul 3 2013, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(silentown @ Jul 3 2013, 05:38 PM)
just asking,in term cost for service and maintanance,which one more cost effective..
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they are C-segment to me about the same
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post Jul 3 2013, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(WilliamHoo @ Jul 3 2013, 12:13 AM)
those are not aftermarket gadgets yo

u will be amazed
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im sorry, u are inspira sales man ka?
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post Jul 3 2013, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 3 2013, 06:10 PM)
im sorry, u are inspira sales man ka?
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you worse inspira con-man whistling.gif
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post Jul 3 2013, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(babyryn @ Jun 29 2013, 09:01 AM)
Not sure of sylphy but forte 2.0 is underpowered as well. Never tried sylphy yet but tried accord 2.0, civic 2.0, inspira 2.0, camry 2.0, altis 1.8 are still much better than forte 2.0. Forte is a real disappointed car. Even 1.6 then 4at failed, then new 6at still failed.. Suggest better forte tutup kilang
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I doubt you even try and compare these cars properly. FYi, I tried them all with 5 full size adults onboard with proper measurement and calculation in torque test aka with load + cargo and see how much the strength deteriorated. Forte 2.0 is not underpowered yet it proven stronger than Civic FD2 2.0.

Forte is proven successful worldwide. Only bunch of marketing staff here would prevent any facts on better cars from going public. The 1 that should close production are the non-qualified C & D segment that are meant for 3rd nation. Only Globally accepted cars should be allowed to bring in.

If what you said is true about Lancer, its RV would have drop like flies long ago. However it did not and remain healthy despite existence of Inspira. Fact is Inspira is just using Lancer chassis and less ingredient Lancer GL with non-MMC suspension handling and build quality.
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Well, no matter what engine you choose, CVT ruins almost everything. Unless you wanted to end up in a manual Inspira, the 6-speed in the Forte is quite nice tho.

But I still cannot brain why the new Cerato so expensive...
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 3 2013, 09:28 PM)
I doubt you even try and compare these cars properly. FYi, I tried them all with 5 full size adults onboard with proper measurement and calculation in torque test aka with load + cargo and see how much the strength deteriorated. Forte 2.0 is not underpowered yet it proven stronger than Civic FD2 2.0.

Forte is proven successful worldwide. Only bunch of marketing staff here would prevent any facts on better cars from going public. The 1 that should close production are the non-qualified C & D segment that are meant for 3rd nation. Only Globally accepted cars should be allowed to bring in.

If what you said is true about Lancer, its RV would have drop like flies long ago. However it did not and remain healthy despite existence of Inspira. Fact is Inspira is just using Lancer chassis and less ingredient Lancer GL with non-MMC suspension handling and build quality.
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Forte 2.0 stronger then FD 2.0

u gotta be kidding me man...
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either that or u are a successful troll
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post Jul 3 2013, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 3 2013, 09:28 PM)
I doubt you even try and compare these cars properly. FYi, I tried them all with 5 full size adults onboard with proper measurement and calculation in torque test aka with load + cargo and see how much the strength deteriorated. Forte 2.0 is not underpowered yet it proven stronger than Civic FD2 2.0.

Forte is proven successful worldwide. Only bunch of marketing staff here would prevent any facts on better cars from going public. The 1 that should close production are the non-qualified C & D segment that are meant for 3rd nation. Only Globally accepted cars should be allowed to bring in.

If what you said is true about Lancer, its RV would have drop like flies long ago. However it did not and remain healthy despite existence of Inspira. Fact is Inspira is just using Lancer chassis and less ingredient Lancer GL with non-MMC suspension handling and build quality.
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Well you may find forte 2.0 better with they way you test it but i did find it lack of response and delivery of power very slow yet underpowered. You said forte 2.0 is more powerful than 2.0 civic i doubt that.. I am not sure how you test both but from my side, the 2.0 is extremely underpowered and not even comparable to civic.
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post Jul 3 2013, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(babyryn @ Jul 3 2013, 10:42 PM)
Well you may find forte 2.0 better with they way you test it but i did find it lack of response and delivery of power very slow yet underpowered. You said forte 2.0 is more powerful than 2.0 civic i doubt that.. I am not sure how you test both but from my side, the 2.0 is extremely underpowered and not even comparable to civic.
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Civic 1.8/2.0 engine lacks torque badly. The FD2 2.0L only rely on more aerodynamic design and lower height to achieve 0-100km/h in 9.2s. The newer Civic 2.0 shredded 100kg on lighter chassis to come up with 0.1s better.

You seems to be looking at 0-100km/h to determine underpower. Forte 2.0 could hit 100km/h in 9.8s with 6AT while the older 4AT gets 10.5s. Whatever underpower you say is opposed to not just my evaluation but also Edmunds' report. Also, there are almost no Forte 2.0 test unit available, wonder where do you get to test that in the first place. Unless you owned 1 or you have some1 that owned 1 willing to let you try it. Probably you took the 1.6SX to assume then that is not right.

Forte 2.0
output 156ps@6200rpm
torque 194Nm@4300rpm

Civic 2.0 FD2
output 155ps@6500rpm
torque 188Nm@4500rpm

Civic 2.0S 2013
output 155ps@6500rpm
190Nm@4300rp

The Accord 2.0 G7/G8 are fitted with Civic FD2 and new Civic engine respectively. THe acceleration fell from 9.2s to 12s. Compared to Sonata/Optima with the same Theta engine could achieve 10.8s, deteriorated only by 1s. The torque matters.

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post Jul 3 2013, 11:10 PM

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macam proton say, drive it to believe it.

sometime some really talk based on their believe.
if u say 2.0 forte is underpowered i can accept, maybe u drive a much better or much powerful car before.
but if you say it is extremely underpowered, i wonder what you compare it to, lol. hmm.gif

same segment, power delivery got difference, but not until extreme difference. biggrin.gif
got some more clever, compare power delivery of car from different cc/segment. wub.gif

for me that 1-2 secs not really matter, most important is i like that car, wont regret and get bored looking at it everyday.
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post Jul 3 2013, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 3 2013, 10:50 PM)
Civic 1.8/2.0 engine lacks torque badly. The FD2 2.0L only rely on more aerodynamic design and lower height to achieve 0-100km/h in 9.2s. The newer Civic 2.0 shredded 100kg on lighter chassis to come up with 0.1s better.

You seems to be looking at 0-100km/h to determine underpower. Forte 2.0 could hit 100km/h in 9.8s with 6AT while the older 4AT gets 10.5s. Whatever underpower you say is opposed to not just my evaluation but also Edmunds' report. Also, there are almost no Forte 2.0 test unit available, wonder where do you get to test that in the first place. Unless you owned 1 or you have some1 that owned 1 willing to let you try it. Probably you took the 1.6SX to assume then that is not right.

Forte 2.0
output 156ps@6200rpm
torque 194Nm@4300rpm

Civic 2.0 FD2
output 155ps@6500rpm
torque 188Nm@4500rpm

Civic 2.0S 2013
output 155ps@6500rpm
190Nm@4300rp

The Accord 2.0 G7/G8 are fitted with Civic FD2 and new Civic engine respectively. THe acceleration fell from 9.2s to 12s. Compared to Sonata/Optima with the same Theta engine could achieve 10.8s, deteriorated only by 1s. The torque matters.
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i seriously doubt this will take much effect at the speed you said

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