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 Inspira vs Forte, Which is better value for money?

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stinger82
post Jul 3 2013, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 3 2013, 09:28 PM)
I doubt you even try and compare these cars properly. FYi, I tried them all with 5 full size adults onboard with proper measurement and calculation in torque test aka with load + cargo and see how much the strength deteriorated. Forte 2.0 is not underpowered yet it proven stronger than Civic FD2 2.0.

Forte is proven successful worldwide. Only bunch of marketing staff here would prevent any facts on better cars from going public. The 1 that should close production are the non-qualified C & D segment that are meant for 3rd nation. Only Globally accepted cars should be allowed to bring in.

If what you said is true about Lancer, its RV would have drop like flies long ago. However it did not and remain healthy despite existence of Inspira. Fact is Inspira is just using Lancer chassis and less ingredient Lancer GL with non-MMC suspension handling and build quality.
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so, lancer and civic failed everywhere......

thanks for sharing.
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post Jul 3 2013, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 3 2013, 09:28 PM)
I doubt you even try and compare these cars properly. FYi, I tried them all with 5 full size adults onboard with proper measurement and calculation in torque test aka with load + cargo and see how much the strength deteriorated. Forte 2.0 is not underpowered yet it proven stronger than Civic FD2 2.0.

Forte is proven successful worldwide. Only bunch of marketing staff here would prevent any facts on better cars from going public. The 1 that should close production are the non-qualified C & D segment that are meant for 3rd nation. Only Globally accepted cars should be allowed to bring in.

If what you said is true about Lancer, its RV would have drop like flies long ago. However it did not and remain healthy despite existence of Inspira. Fact is Inspira is just using Lancer chassis and less ingredient Lancer GL with non-MMC suspension handling and build quality.
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U heard from ur cousin or fren or neighbour that it was a Lancer GL? whistling.gif
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post Jul 3 2013, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Jul 3 2013, 11:18 PM)
so, lancer and civic failed everywhere......

thanks for sharing.
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Yes.
Civic less wind drag already failed.
Apatah lagi lancer.....

Oh ya, Inspira using lancer "reject" stuff to build it seems.
Wondering what is the meaning of rebadge nowadays.

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 3 2013, 11:27 PM)
U heard from ur cousin or fren or neighbour that it was a Lancer GL? whistling.gif
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Mention before. His name Alex.
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post Jul 3 2013, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 3 2013, 10:50 PM)
Civic 1.8/2.0 engine lacks torque badly. The FD2 2.0L only rely on more aerodynamic design and lower height to achieve 0-100km/h in 9.2s. The newer Civic 2.0 shredded 100kg on lighter chassis to come up with 0.1s better.

You seems to be looking at 0-100km/h to determine underpower. Forte 2.0 could hit 100km/h in 9.8s with 6AT while the older 4AT gets 10.5s. Whatever underpower you say is opposed to not just my evaluation but also Edmunds' report. Also, there are almost no Forte 2.0 test unit available, wonder where do you get to test that in the first place. Unless you owned 1 or you have some1 that owned 1 willing to let you try it. Probably you took the 1.6SX to assume then that is not right.

Forte 2.0
output 156ps@6200rpm
torque 194Nm@4300rpm

Civic 2.0 FD2
output 155ps@6500rpm
torque 188Nm@4500rpm

Civic 2.0S 2013
output 155ps@6500rpm
190Nm@4300rp

The Accord 2.0 G7/G8 are fitted with Civic FD2 and new Civic engine respectively. THe acceleration fell from 9.2s to 12s. Compared to Sonata/Optima with the same Theta engine could achieve 10.8s, deteriorated only by 1s. The torque matters.
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wow, look at the figure can know the car power or not d laugh.gif rclxms.gif notworthy.gif
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post Jul 3 2013, 11:36 PM

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post Jul 4 2013, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(EnochKeng @ Jul 3 2013, 05:12 PM)
1.8 Campro do exist, but in a hovercraft.
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What hovercraft...It's in UFO lah.

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post Jul 4 2013, 03:11 AM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 3 2013, 11:32 PM)
wow, look at the figure can know the car power or not d  laugh.gif  rclxms.gif  notworthy.gif
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he can read the car brochure
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post Jul 4 2013, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jun 24 2013, 03:53 PM)
ANything but proton la... i read in this forum that inspira is 99% local, infact most Lancer owners claim that's true! If Inspira is same as Lancer, why would people go buy lancer and pay 30~40k more?! THey are not stupid la.

As for the inspira/Campro engine..... I was standing there when this picture was taken.... so i can confirm its not photochopped
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QUOTE(piumiu @ Jun 30 2013, 09:17 AM)
What rubbish are you talking about. I own one. Go die please. '
Local content 99%?  laugh.gif

Even women have better understanding in car than you.  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Jun 30 2013, 10:41 AM)
MeTooyou lose to a women whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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metoo epic fail rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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post Jul 4 2013, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 3 2013, 10:50 PM)
Civic 1.8/2.0 engine lacks torque badly. The FD2 2.0L only rely on more aerodynamic design and lower height to achieve 0-100km/h in 9.2s. The newer Civic 2.0 shredded 100kg on lighter chassis to come up with 0.1s better.

You seems to be looking at 0-100km/h to determine underpower. Forte 2.0 could hit 100km/h in 9.8s with 6AT while the older 4AT gets 10.5s. Whatever underpower you say is opposed to not just my evaluation but also Edmunds' report. Also, there are almost no Forte 2.0 test unit available, wonder where do you get to test that in the first place. Unless you owned 1 or you have some1 that owned 1 willing to let you try it. Probably you took the 1.6SX to assume then that is not right.

Forte 2.0
output 156ps@6200rpm
torque 194Nm@4300rpm

Civic 2.0 FD2
output 155ps@6500rpm
torque 188Nm@4500rpm

Civic 2.0S 2013
output 155ps@6500rpm
190Nm@4300rp

The Accord 2.0 G7/G8 are fitted with Civic FD2 and new Civic engine respectively. THe acceleration fell from 9.2s to 12s. Compared to Sonata/Optima with the same Theta engine could achieve 10.8s, deteriorated only by 1s. The torque matters.
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dude are you a 15 y/o keyboard warrior? do you have a driving license? have you driven any of those cars before?

your statements are based on the figures on sheet. but real life would present an entirely new perspective. if you don't know, there's a thing called gear ratios. these determine how much power the engine transmit to the wheels.

please wait a few years then go test drive both cars ya.
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post Jul 4 2013, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(mercury99 @ Jul 4 2013, 08:33 AM)
dude are you a 15 y/o keyboard warrior? do you have a driving license? have you driven any of those cars before?

your statements are based on the figures on sheet. but real life would present an entirely new perspective. if you don't know, there's a thing called gear ratios. these determine how much power the engine transmit to the wheels.

please wait a few years then go test drive both cars ya.
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not only gear ratio but wheel size and width also play a part then accelerate
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post Jul 4 2013, 08:59 AM

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both about the same size
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post Jul 4 2013, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(mercury99 @ Jul 4 2013, 08:59 AM)
both about the same size
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civic = 215/45 R17
lancer = 215/45 R18

not the same leh sweat.gif
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post Jul 4 2013, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Jul 4 2013, 09:10 AM)
civic = 215/45 R17
lancer = 215/45 R18

not the same leh sweat.gif
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he's talking abt civic and forte la
edison1437
post Jul 4 2013, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(mercury99 @ Jul 4 2013, 09:36 AM)
he's talking abt civic and forte la
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post Jul 4 2013, 11:43 AM

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if u do a poll im sure inspira wins
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post Jul 4 2013, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(joefbi @ Jul 4 2013, 11:43 AM)
if u do a poll im sure inspira wins
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campro can win forte?
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post Jul 4 2013, 04:07 PM

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In lowyat.net sure Inspira > all

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post Jul 4 2013, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(helven @ Jul 4 2013, 04:07 PM)
In lowyat.net sure Inspira K5 > all
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