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 Inspira vs Forte, Which is better value for money?

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edison1437
post Jun 24 2013, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jun 24 2013, 05:13 PM)
Forte for sure.. Need to ask ah kuai meh?
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post Jun 25 2013, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jun 25 2013, 12:44 AM)
More cars on the road means more spare parts as well as spare part supplier will bring in more spare parts.

Compared Forte 2.0L vs Inspira 2.0L, these 2 are still exact match as the new K3 Cerato will be sold under Japanese C-segment range.

Forte is Korean made but DNA for its engine & tech from MMC, reliability & durability proven. Spare parts also cheap and highly available. Handling could beat Inspira with help from VSC. Maintenance is also cheaper using conventional 6AT that has stronger gears for startup from idle. FC wise, Forte wins by at least 0.3km/L city driving difference.
Kerb weight 1293kg (lighter due to torsion beam)
0-100km/h 9.8s

Inspira is using Lancer chassis, detuned GL engine + standard CVT JATCO gearbox with smaller gears. Other than these, the rest of the parts are built by P1. The suspension is not the same as in Lancer GT. What I dislike about CVT, ATF fluid change not exceeding 60,000km interval and have to pay RM400.
Kerb weight 1335kg
0-100km/h 10.5s

Verdict is, go test drive both kawkaw and check which 1 do you prefer. Personally I love the Lancer GT but I like the Forte now. Dun like Inspira as the bumpers, steering and some of the non-ori MMC parts seems cheap.
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post Jun 29 2013, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jun 28 2013, 11:47 PM)
hi edison1437 & ironthomas,

There is local owners organised club that organise racing at Sepang racetrack. Forgot what club, looks like Forte club vs Lancer club vs Inspira club vs Civic club. You can find them pitting against each other in Civic FD, Lancer, Forte, Inspira. I think that club should have expanded further to include Elantra and new Civic. At that time, never seen Inspira win much for standard NA engine category.

Without VSC, for FF car with multi-link rear, if the back is not heavy enough and lack the real wide stance to counter the weight distribution in front, it will go into understeer when hard cornering at over certain speed limit eg. 100km/h or 120km/h. Forte 2.0L despite torsion beam, the VSC prevents it from understeer allowing it to take hard corner at higher speed than Inspira.

The Lancer/Inspira CVT ATF fluid change maintenance is correct, you can check with SC if you doubted my comment. When Inspira introduced, the original Lancer could still sell mainly because many of the parts in Inspira are not MMC made. Check RV for Lancer, it is still ok though not as strong as back then reason being people buy it for its better suspension, handling and build quality. If Inspira handling and quality are somewhere close to Lancer, it could have defeated Lancer like how Perdana RM80k killed off Galant RM110k in 1994.
kcng,

Refer N-brand defensive driving course held in 2007/2008 and you'll understand what people talking here. All the N-brand models participated at that time failed the handling part and went into understeer dangerously. THis is due to poor suspension setup and no VSC. Having flat side stance, only bent by less than 5 degree angle on the spring.
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post Jun 30 2013, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(piumiu @ Jun 30 2013, 09:17 AM)
What rubbish are you talking about. I own one. Go die please. '
Local content 99%?  laugh.gif

Even women have better understanding in car than you.  whistling.gif
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post Jul 1 2013, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(imwhoiam @ Jul 1 2013, 02:50 AM)
Sorry for being gone for sometimes guys

I don't really mind about the brand actually, that's why Proton is in my consideration

Things i look for in my future ride:
+First and foremost, value for money.
+Then comfortable to transport 3-4 people (once in a week or two, weekend family car)
+One i could use for a very long time (not planning to change car in 10 years maybe)
+Good amount of room for rear seat and boot
+preferably sedan car (i'm somewhat a sucker for looks too)
+Safe ride
+gadgets are good, i'd love if they had a lot gadgets installed but these could be installed after the car is purchased. Gadgets i'd want to have would be Navigator and Reverse cam
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RM69k after discount for 2.0E inspira
yesterday suppose the last day
maybe you should check with the SA?
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post Jul 1 2013, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(imwhoiam @ Jul 1 2013, 09:40 AM)
Wow... that's extremely good price. Is that the one shown by one of the reply here? Autofest Penang?

Yesterday i did gave one of the forummer dealer a call and asked about 2.0P. Didn't hear him saying anything about the 2.0E selling at that price.

Probably i should ask him later. Thanks for the info.
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yes at DRB auto fest. Honestly if my financial allow i dont mind getting another manual rclxms.gif
people might say i crazy thou whistling.gif
a few fella at inspira thread already booked either 2.0E or the 1.8MT
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post Jul 3 2013, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(silentown @ Jul 3 2013, 05:38 PM)
just asking,in term cost for service and maintanance,which one more cost effective..
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they are C-segment to me about the same
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post Jul 3 2013, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 3 2013, 06:10 PM)
im sorry, u are inspira sales man ka?
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post Jul 3 2013, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 3 2013, 10:50 PM)
Civic 1.8/2.0 engine lacks torque badly. The FD2 2.0L only rely on more aerodynamic design and lower height to achieve 0-100km/h in 9.2s. The newer Civic 2.0 shredded 100kg on lighter chassis to come up with 0.1s better.

You seems to be looking at 0-100km/h to determine underpower. Forte 2.0 could hit 100km/h in 9.8s with 6AT while the older 4AT gets 10.5s. Whatever underpower you say is opposed to not just my evaluation but also Edmunds' report. Also, there are almost no Forte 2.0 test unit available, wonder where do you get to test that in the first place. Unless you owned 1 or you have some1 that owned 1 willing to let you try it. Probably you took the 1.6SX to assume then that is not right.

Forte 2.0
output 156ps@6200rpm
torque 194Nm@4300rpm

Civic 2.0 FD2
output 155ps@6500rpm
torque 188Nm@4500rpm

Civic 2.0S 2013
output 155ps@6500rpm
190Nm@4300rp

The Accord 2.0 G7/G8 are fitted with Civic FD2 and new Civic engine respectively. THe acceleration fell from 9.2s to 12s. Compared to Sonata/Optima with the same Theta engine could achieve 10.8s, deteriorated only by 1s. The torque matters.
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i seriously doubt this will take much effect at the speed you said
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post Jul 3 2013, 11:36 PM

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suddenly so many people kambing
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post Jul 4 2013, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(mercury99 @ Jul 4 2013, 08:33 AM)
dude are you a 15 y/o keyboard warrior? do you have a driving license? have you driven any of those cars before?

your statements are based on the figures on sheet. but real life would present an entirely new perspective. if you don't know, there's a thing called gear ratios. these determine how much power the engine transmit to the wheels.

please wait a few years then go test drive both cars ya.
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not only gear ratio but wheel size and width also play a part then accelerate
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post Jul 4 2013, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(mercury99 @ Jul 4 2013, 08:59 AM)
both about the same size
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civic = 215/45 R17
lancer = 215/45 R18

not the same leh sweat.gif
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post Jul 4 2013, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(mercury99 @ Jul 4 2013, 09:36 AM)
he's talking abt civic and forte la
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post Jul 4 2013, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(joefbi @ Jul 4 2013, 11:43 AM)
if u do a poll im sure inspira wins
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campro can win forte?
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post Jul 4 2013, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(helven @ Jul 4 2013, 04:07 PM)
In lowyat.net sure Inspira K5 > all
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post Jul 6 2013, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(piumiu @ Jul 6 2013, 12:30 AM)
Do you even know the engine model no?  laugh.gif
Only men can be better in cars? Did you took apart your car?
What super car are you driving?  yawn.gif
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post Jul 6 2013, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(jnick @ Jul 6 2013, 11:07 AM)
He got another car but still on the ship....

Couldn't open up to see the engine. Forgive him plz.
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when he sees the car also no use la need to ask a girl that knows better than him go and see whistling.gif
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post Jul 6 2013, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 6 2013, 10:33 PM)
Lancer GL is a lower spec variant of Lancer GT/EX with more normal car suspension (softer, smaller & lighter) meant for comfort rather than handling. It is sold in other countries. You can refer Singapore Lancer 1.5GL and I think they have it in Thailand. The engine top is slightly different from our Lancer GT with less. Do not mix up with the earlier Lancer GL that was phased out as it was known as GLS elsewhere.

Lancer 2.0GT:
output 155ps@6000rpm
torque 199Nm@4250rpm

Inspira 2.0:
150ps@6000rpm
197Nm@4250rpm

Spot the difference?
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