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 Inspira vs Forte, Which is better value for money?

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babyryn
post Jun 29 2013, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jun 24 2013, 03:53 PM)
ANything but proton la... i read in this forum that inspira is 99% local, infact most Lancer owners claim that's true! If Inspira is same as Lancer, why would people go buy lancer and pay 30~40k more?! THey are not stupid la.

As for the inspira/Campro engine..... I was standing there when this picture was taken.... so i can confirm its not photochopped
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Wake up la dude. Its not 99% local parts la! Most lancer owner said that coz they bought at expensive and feel butthurt. Alot of parts are still from japan, only those make up and some accessories is assembly local by proton. Those lancer selling 120k last time when inspira is not launched. Inspira can be sold cheaper alot is because is made in malaysia and and those parts inside inspira is re-make locally. Do you know that inspira 2012 still have the hot hair blow equipped? Those lancer try to trade in and see, their tears will come out anytime.
For your engine quote, inspira never use campro engine, all are mitsu engine. Dont be fooled by other ppl, there's agreement when they get the lancer from mitsu and convert to proton, the engine is not allowed to be modified by proton and reselling locally. If the engine is campro, alot of people will suffering because of the thirsty campro engine.
babyryn
post Jun 29 2013, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jun 29 2013, 12:23 AM)
hi khusyairi,

Turbolag only happens in older wastegate turbocharger. Turbolag means the exhaust gas pressure suddenly not enough to spin the turbine when there's sudden deceleration or abrupt sudden brake and then floor the pedal again. The newer type such as VGT and twinscroll turbocharger came up with low pressure and high pressure mode to eliminate lag.

If you meant sluggish at lower speed eg. turbocharger activates only from 1600rpm, at less than 1600rpm that is at 800-1599rpm would rely on the engine own strength to pull. The Merc 200kompressor is actually powered by 1.8L engine and its kerb weight at >1500kg. Like that sure engine feels weaker when turbo not activated.

If you look at Mondeo 2.0T, its 2.0L engine itself generate torque 200Nm on its own therefore, it is not a problem even if its VGT turbocharger activate at 4000rpm onwards. As long as the engine itself is not too small for the chassis weight, you won't feel weak at low end.

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kimsim,

You said Sylphy at low Hp, but in high torque

Engine type: MR20DE 1,997cc, 4-cylinder electronic fuel injection system (ECCS), DOHC with CVTC, balancer shaft and drive-by-wire technology
Max. Power: 131hp @ 5,200rpm
Max. Torque: 191Nm @ 4,400rpm
Just slightly accleerate on up hill only, never feel the lack power of CVT.

As khusyairi said, that is 10 years ago tech engine. New Sentra 2013 don't use that. Even US Sentra MR20DE engine with EGR tuned to >140ps. You need to park the Sylphy on steep slope like certain part of Cameron Highland or Genting Highland with a Forte 2.0 next to you. Then both start to move up from zero, you'll find the Sylphy sluggish like it's struggling to move a bit. Try with reverse as well, it'll be worse.
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Not sure of sylphy but forte 2.0 is underpowered as well. Never tried sylphy yet but tried accord 2.0, civic 2.0, inspira 2.0, camry 2.0, altis 1.8 are still much better than forte 2.0. Forte is a real disappointed car. Even 1.6 then 4at failed, then new 6at still failed.. Suggest better forte tutup kilang
babyryn
post Jun 30 2013, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(spring onion @ Jun 30 2013, 12:23 AM)
1.6 and 1.8 version are campro actually
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Since when inspira got 1.6? 1.8 mitsu la dude
babyryn
post Jul 3 2013, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 3 2013, 09:28 PM)
I doubt you even try and compare these cars properly. FYi, I tried them all with 5 full size adults onboard with proper measurement and calculation in torque test aka with load + cargo and see how much the strength deteriorated. Forte 2.0 is not underpowered yet it proven stronger than Civic FD2 2.0.

Forte is proven successful worldwide. Only bunch of marketing staff here would prevent any facts on better cars from going public. The 1 that should close production are the non-qualified C & D segment that are meant for 3rd nation. Only Globally accepted cars should be allowed to bring in.

If what you said is true about Lancer, its RV would have drop like flies long ago. However it did not and remain healthy despite existence of Inspira. Fact is Inspira is just using Lancer chassis and less ingredient Lancer GL with non-MMC suspension handling and build quality.
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Well you may find forte 2.0 better with they way you test it but i did find it lack of response and delivery of power very slow yet underpowered. You said forte 2.0 is more powerful than 2.0 civic i doubt that.. I am not sure how you test both but from my side, the 2.0 is extremely underpowered and not even comparable to civic.

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