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 LYN Kia Cerato Owners CLub V1, 1.6 : Rm99,888, 2.0 : Rm118,888

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coolman1024
post Mar 21 2015, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(veron208 @ Mar 21 2015, 11:16 AM)
I have not send mine to resolve this issue. The jerking happened when you was braking and the gear changed to lower gear when slowing down?
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Yes, it will happens if the gear reduce fast from top gear to 1st gear. It will not happen always but intermitently. Same situation on your car? Hopefully you can share ur exp with us after sending your car to sc.
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post Mar 21 2015, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(coolman1024 @ Mar 21 2015, 01:56 PM)
Yes, it will happens if the gear reduce fast from top gear to 1st gear. It will not happen always but intermitently. Same situation on your car? Hopefully you can share ur exp with us after sending your car to sc.
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Ya it happened intermittently .... usually when you slow down your car and the gears changed like from 3rd to 1st gear (skipping 2nd gear).

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post Mar 21 2015, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(ArepAltair @ Mar 21 2015, 09:05 AM)
really? wow... dats sounds great.. Mr Loh... got any special discount for me? Pm me please... smile.gif anyway... i hope someone with the expereince of changing or replacing spare parts can share their story with us... becoz i really want to know, is the korean car spare parts are hard to get o what?
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Well, I haven changed any parts yet but if you looking at features and safety without much price diff. 2015 it'll go for the H vspec. Just my own opinion as I see with a few k difference (maybe less than 6k) u get 6 airbags, VSC. Same have GPS, rear air vent, cruise control and others. Then of course I am comparing kx with v spec with above statement, k3 of course is diff with more features.
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QUOTE(mr.hikano @ Mar 21 2015, 08:16 AM)
Im in the same dilemma as both of u ~ at d end of d day ~ i buy CERATO! really a good buy ~ im buying KX version so it is cheaper than both elantra n city v spec ~ but got all the features and tech ~ d downside only 2airbags and no VSC ~ but overall im happy with my choice ~

THANKS so much to my SA, Mr Loh KS a.k.a Buydirect. He gave me the best discount and no one can challenge it. Comes with a lot of freebies. Last thursday i go to pick up my Cerato, he explain all about that car and all the function at d radio and steering wheel. I think not all SA will do this. thanks again mr Loh.  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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Welcome to the kx group rclxms.gif , then again lucky uvfor checking this thread b4 decision as I regretted not to do so b4. As to say my SA sucks bad, really took advantage of me being a noob in buying new car. No explanation, service, and I even asked around with friends after, all says my SA really the worst. vmad.gif
vat67
post Mar 22 2015, 08:29 AM

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Any SA can give me the BEST current promotion for K3 & KX?

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post Mar 22 2015, 10:15 AM

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My K3 has reached 23K mileage. So far quite satisfy with the ride. But lately my cabin getting noisier as I guess is this MC5 tire causing the noise. Anybody experience it? Even I found sitting in my friend Myvi is quieter than mine!

Any Otai can share any more silent and comfort tire model by experience and what is the price range? I heard Toyo maybe a good one for that purpose. I guess mine will last not more than 40K.


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post Mar 22 2015, 02:48 PM

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from my calculation, cerato k3 1.6 new net selling price will be about rm93000 after gst compared to about rm96000 before gst..is it true? since the custom will return back the 10% of already paid sales tax and charge back 6% of gst..right?
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post Mar 23 2015, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(coolman1024 @ Mar 21 2015, 10:19 AM)
QUOTE(coconutzz @ Jan 28 2015, 10:55 AM)
Just for sharing purposes in case anyone experienced the same problem :

Recently I had this "Jerking" Problem when i slow my car down. it was quite bad and the feeling was the the car had a "sudden pull back" when i slowed down.

Initially, i tot it could be a gear problem (which is gonna be troublesome). Sent it to PJ RedCube to check. They had experience this issue before and resolved it within 30 mins.

The solution : Plug it into the "Computer" and do a reset. Problem Solved!
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As mentioned, for sharing purposes only
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I facing the same problem too. I was sent to SC to reset A/T adaptive valve 1 month ago, problem solved. However, the problem comes again 1 week ago, feeling bad. Anyone of you still facing same problem after resetting the computer? Any solution to overcome this issue?
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exact same thing happened to mine.. while slowing down mine would either jerk forward or being pulled as mentioned.. sent in to PJ Red Cube and did some resetting, waited very much longer than 30mins.. so far the pulling force has been resolved but not the jerking forward issue..
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post Mar 23 2015, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(vat67 @ Mar 22 2015, 08:29 AM)
Any SA can give me the BEST current promotion for K3 & KX?
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Kindly check my PM to you. Thanks.
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post Mar 23 2015, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(megat89 @ Mar 22 2015, 02:48 PM)
from my calculation, cerato k3 1.6 new net selling price will be about rm93000 after gst compared to about rm96000 before gst..is it true? since the custom will return back the 10% of already paid sales tax and charge back 6% of gst..right?
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It's not a simple equation of 10-6 = 4% savings. For your information, the actual figure of 10% sales tax for Kia is quite low, whereas the 6% GST is from the selling price to the end-user (minus the road tax). From the information received, there might actually be an increase for KIA of between 2-5 K, depending on models. As to how the final prices will pan out, it also depends on whether the distributor is going to absorb any of the price impact so as to maintain some sort of price continuity and how it stacks up against the models of other competitors. The retail price may turn out the same, but maybe the discount will be lesser compared to pre-GST. Just my 2 sens, I stand to be corrected once the post GST prices are revealed.







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QUOTE(day_dreamer86 @ Mar 23 2015, 09:57 AM)
exact same thing happened to mine.. while slowing down mine would either jerk forward or being pulled as mentioned.. sent in to PJ Red Cube and did some resetting, waited very much longer than 30mins.. so far the pulling force has been resolved but not the jerking forward issue..
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I am experiencing the same as well but it only happened when the gearbox is cold. When its warmed up i.e driven for like 5 mins, problem is gone. The pulling effect also not really bad but I can feel it. My mileage is 11,500 km. Started feeling it about 1000 km ago
So I wonder, is this how it first started and slowly becomes more frequent and harder pulling effect OR is this normal and we have to live with it?
Appreciate if our otais could give some input.
Its a bit worrying when it comes to Transmission related issue.
Based on my experience with Pug 406 , resetting would not solve it.
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post Mar 24 2015, 02:22 PM

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Go to the SC and demand that they reset:

- TCU
- ECU
- BMS

Then you will need to take your car for retraining/acclimatization. The gearbox will relearn and adjust itself to match the gearbox's current nature.

More details in my earlier post but a brief run through would be:

- Drive your car from a stop, all the way to the 6th gear (typically around 110 is fine) on a steady throttle. And then let it slow down to a stop by itself, allowing it to cycle through all the gears. Repeat the procedure 5-6 times. Naturally you will need some empty roads to do this.

- If you feel shift quality is still not ok, do some skip shifts, i.e 6->4, 5->3 etc, but becareful not to over-rev your engine.

Doing the above solved my problem. But do not that the gearbox also has a mechanism that commits the final values only after a certain process. This bit I am not sure, but I suppose it would be pretty similar to the older one where you go from D->N->R->P->R->D or something. Nontheless, the essence of it is you will likely need to enter park approx 5-6 times. So during your driving sessions, bear this in mind and give the gearbox a chance to learn. Hope it helps smile.gif

QUOTE(blake pare @ Mar 24 2015, 10:59 AM)
I am experiencing the same as well but it only happened when the gearbox is cold. When its warmed up i.e driven for like 5 mins, problem is gone. The pulling effect also not really bad but I can feel it. My mileage is 11,500 km. Started feeling it about 1000 km ago
So I wonder, is this how it first started and slowly becomes more frequent and harder pulling effect OR is this normal and we have to live with it?
Appreciate if our otais could give some input.
Its a bit worrying when it comes to Transmission related issue.
Based on my experience with Pug 406 , resetting would not solve it.
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post Mar 24 2015, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(perror @ Mar 24 2015, 02:22 PM)
Go to the SC and demand that they reset:

- TCU
- ECU
- BMS

Then you will need to take your car for retraining/acclimatization. The gearbox will relearn and adjust itself to match the gearbox's current nature.

More details in my earlier post but a brief run through would be:

- Drive your car from a stop, all the way to the 6th gear (typically around 110 is fine) on a steady throttle. And then let it slow down to a stop by itself, allowing it to cycle through all the gears. Repeat the procedure 5-6 times. Naturally you will need some empty roads to do this.

- If you feel shift quality is still not ok, do some skip shifts, i.e 6->4, 5->3 etc, but becareful not to over-rev your engine.

Doing the above solved my problem. But do not that the gearbox also has a mechanism that commits the final values only after a certain process. This bit I am not sure, but I suppose it would be pretty similar to the older one where you go from D->N->R->P->R->D or something. Nontheless, the essence of it is you will likely need to enter park approx 5-6 times. So during your driving sessions, bear this in mind and give the gearbox a chance to learn. Hope it helps smile.gif
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Thanks Bro.
So basically you also felt it when GB was cold and after warmed up there was not more jerky?
What was your mileage when you first felt it?
Which SC that you went to reset all those?
Wonder whther first batch of Cerato have the same issue.
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post Mar 24 2015, 04:02 PM

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hi, i just got my k3 last night, now im thinking which tint should i choose.

Rm500 smart cool or Rm2000 Llumar?
any advice?
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post Mar 24 2015, 04:04 PM

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I did free tinting from the given tint voucher only tongue.gif

On a serious note, my previous car i did a rm400 tint and had no problem with it, almost 2 years using it before selling it off
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No worries man. Yup the issue normally happens when the gearbox is cold. After it's warmed up then it's not jerky anymore.

My mileage was 20K. It happened when I changed my ATF. So basically I just got them to do the reset and it was perfectly fine after that. Most important is the fact you need to reset everything, not just the TCU because the TCU takes inputs from ECU and BMS.

I believe all cars with some form of wear adaptive gearbox will eventually have this issue. It's just that, you may or may not realize it because it happens when something changes in the gearbox, i.e in my case, it's because I drained the old ATF, so the pollutants in there are no longer present.

Most SC should be able to do this. Just let them know you want to reset those stuff via GDS. Note that after a reset, you may still feel the jerk like I did, but that's only for a while. Subsequent times should be fine.

QUOTE(blake pare @ Mar 24 2015, 03:51 PM)
Thanks Bro.
So basically you also felt it when GB was cold and after warmed up there was not more jerky?
What was your mileage when you first felt it?
Which SC that you went to reset all those?
Wonder whther first batch of Cerato have the same issue.
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post Mar 25 2015, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(perror @ Mar 24 2015, 05:58 PM)
No worries man. Yup the issue normally happens when the gearbox is cold. After it's warmed up then it's not jerky anymore.

My mileage was 20K. It happened when I changed my ATF. So basically I just got them to do the reset and it was perfectly fine after that. Most important is the fact you need to reset everything, not just the TCU because the TCU takes inputs from ECU and BMS.

I believe all cars with some form of wear adaptive gearbox will eventually have this issue. It's just that, you may or may not realize it because it happens when something changes in the gearbox, i.e in my case, it's because I drained the old ATF, so the pollutants in there are no longer present.

Most SC should be able to do this. Just let them know you want to reset those stuff via GDS.  Note that after a reset, you may still feel the jerk like I did, but that's only for a while. Subsequent times should be fine.
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So you only did the full reset once and all is fine now.
That gave some comfort since I was worried that the problem gets build up from there and have to do reset everytime.
I probably wait for my next service (ATF change as well for 20K service) then I do the reset since the jerky feeling is mild and only when its cold.

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Yup, so far just did one reset and it's fine. One thing to add, the TCU reset is actually called the T/A values reset. Just in case they get it wrong.

Actually I would tend to think if you have a chance you ought to do it as soon as possible. When I discovered it I went straight to the SC and ask them to look into it. The concern was it may cause undue wear and tear on the clutches.

The standard service interval is 40K. I changed mine at 20K at my own option actually...so it's not really standard procedure. But I don't fancy ATF with wear in pollutants going around my very expensive gearbox haha

QUOTE(blake pare @ Mar 25 2015, 10:53 AM)
So you only did the full reset once and all is fine now.
That gave some comfort since I was worried that the problem gets build up from there and have to do reset everytime.
I probably wait for my next service (ATF change as well for 20K service)  then I do the reset since the jerky feeling is mild and only when its cold.
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may i know a good place to repair my car? it hit a cone at 140km/h. the bottom grille is damaged. I think the steel bar also bent already. I will claim PLUS on this issue, but i just wanna repair it with lower cost n hope 2 claim more $, bcos they said PLUS normally only pay us half the repair cost.
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here is the damaged area. I think someone must have placed the cone on middle of road waitin 4 accidents 2 happen.


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