Just thought to drop by and put in some good words for Motorman@Edwin.

It was a pleasant experience getting the car from him and certainly one of the best SA that I dealt with! Smooth transaction all the way and puts in great time and effort to get things properly done and sorted. Thanks Edwin, see you again some day!

Got my Cerato 2 weeks ago and my current full tank seems to likely give me between 550 - 600KM. I will update it once I run dry, but based on the calculation in the car, I am getting around 8.4L/100 KM which is about 11.9KM per liter. This is a mixed highway and city drive. It's still going through break in and I did not exceed 90 KM/H. Probably will be better if I go above that and let the 6th gear kick in.

Someone else around here is getting 13.5 KM/L which sounds pretty decent.

Hope this helps

Most welcomed

Yeap mine is a 1.6. The other car I quoted is also a 1.6. I'd probably report back the following week once I've let the car go beyond 90 KM/H.

Just thought to share some pics of my DIY paint sealing work I did onto my ride this week










Did not opt to do any glass coating, so had to sort out the paint protection on my own. Used this product, and I'd highly recommend it for those who would be getting your new rides and did not go for any glass coating option:

http://www.meguiars.com/en/professional/pr...ealant-20-16oz/

Thanks for the kind words guys

The bottle costed about rm150 and looks like i can use it for 2 rounds of application. Just apply it as though I apply wax but it's recommended to spread it in the direction of the wind whereas wax we normally have to apply it in a circular motion. Took about 2 hours for most of the car (I did not do up the front as that has a PPF installed). Mine is glittering metal.

I'm not much of a detailer hehe. I applied it to protect the paint. But was surprised by the result.

I'll see if weather is good today and will try to snap some pics from the sides. I'm due to wax up the front with meguiars ultimate liquid wax or nxt. The xpel paint protection film is a bit fussy as to what stuff is applied onto it. Will snap the pics after but I'm betting the front won't look as good as the rest of the car

Thanks man!

I got it from Ace hardware, Midvalley. Last bottle unfortunately, otherwise I would have picked up one more. It's really awesome.

I'm thinking to buy from Meguiars directly. Perhaps if got interested parties, we can bulk buy and perhaps get a discount I'm likely to exhaust my bottle today as I plan to apply a 2nd coat hehe

Just done the bonnet, as expected it wasn't as nice as the rest due to the xpel film. But well hope these shots give an idea what the rest of the car is like. Couldn't get a full shot though.

Thanks coconutzz! I did it over a few days, covering a few panels at a time. In total I'd say I spent about 5 hours on the sealant process for the whole car including washing it down properly before applying the waxes and sealant.

By right should be more because the paint had some imperfections, but that didn't really matter to me (they're mostly on the roof), and I didn't have the tools to address the imperfections. If have to do that, probably would take 1-2 hours more.

But it was a fun and rewarding process

Just thought to add in some extra inputs. My last FC before refuelling was 11.3 KM/L.

My current tank the estimated is about 13.88 KM/L.

Well basically my calculation is somewhat rough, so do let me know if I got it wrong.

I took the final travelled distance when I reach the pump. Divided it by the amount of petrol (in liters) that went into the tank when fueling up. In my case, I travelled 488.2 KM and 43 liters went into my fuel tank.

Hope this helps

I got it from Ace hardware, Midvalley. But it was the last bottle. Might have some luck checking with the local Meguiars distributor I guess. I'm probably gonna get it off ebay or amazon for future use

I guess in a way, it is a double edged sword. By lowering the price, there will be more K3 on the road. The resale value will be somewhat impacted, but at least it will result in more K3 on the road and ultimately gets the car better exposure and arrest the potential drop in RV.

But that's just my RM0.02 worth of thought in this regards. It's good though that there are more K3 and K5 on the road. I suppose it is heading down the right direction in a way.

My experience so far has been generally positive. Especially the one at Motorman's place. The guys do a pretty good job and fast. And the service manager is also quite an insightful person.

The FB groups also seems to indicate generally positive experience with quite a few service centers.

Most welcomed Edwin Although I'm still hoping your service center will give options and stock true Group 4 synthetic oils rather than Group 3 that your workshop currently uses.

Group 3 is sometimes classified as "Fully synthetic", but not from a technical perspective:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_oil...etic_lubricants



I'm certainly hoping your service center can stock true PAO or Ester based oils. They do cost more, but with our really hot weather now I'm sure some would be willing to pay that premium for the better protection and performance offered by PAO or Ester based oils. I've had very good experience with Ester based oils like Chemlube and really good mileage out of it, when I was using the ultra low viscosity variant.

Hopefully you can give this option someday

In general I'd say I've never been more satisfied with a purchase. It's got a great price to value ratio and that experience is certainly amplified once you drive it for a long time.

In short, it is a very comfortable car to drive. It's not a sporty car, but it can go really quick if you want it to and the paddle shifters makes it really easy to pass traffic. (i'm driving the 1.6)

In terms of noise insulation, it's pretty decent and driving feel, I'd say it tops the Honda Civic which I also evaluated during the time I was looking for a car.

Basically I'd say it's a car that I buy and I don't really see a need to change anything except to go for better stuff to better maintain the vehicle (hence my post on synthetics).

Gripes about the car, none other than one time I had a gearbox issue which was resolved quite quickly and did not happen again.

Hope this helps

The head unit is running Windows CE. The navigation software is decent but somewhat clunky and I've seen better ones. Since it's running Windows CE, you can see/purchase other software fits your needs that may come with a SG map and replace. The Head unit allows you to specify the navigation software that is being used.

I'm not an expert on the products, but generally the color focused wax has some elements to help accentuate the color of the vehicle. In the case of both the black and white wax, they both contain some form of cleaning and polishing agent to really bring out the shine in the car. Here's a snippet from their product description:

"3-in-1 functionality - Cleans, polishes and protects"

For me I don't fancy polishing as I would like to maintain the clear coat on my car as much as possible, hence I shy away from polishing.

I'd suggest that if your intention is really to bring out the shine and best in your car, the white wax is the way to go. However, if your intention is protection, my 2 cents and based on my reading, would be to go for either one of these:

- #21 mirror glaze sealant - very small amount of cleaning agent to help clean the paint and seals the paint
- Meguiars Ultimate wax (liquid or paste) - Apparently is more durable in terms of protection for paint, slightly better than #21 (note that some people say the paste last longer than the liquid version. I'm not so sure about this)


Needless to say, having used the #21, and having rain and hot weather hit my car (i park in the open) on a daily basis, #21 is really good. Even after 3 weeks of being left unwashed, a quick wash eventually brings back the shine and awesome water beading of the product.

Note that I believe in most cars, our bumper is where the water from most of the exterior water channel will hit. So I applied 2-3 coats there. I may eventually move away from #21 for that and use something more durable and/or better dirt repelling properties.


Hope the above helps, but as mentioned, I'm not detailing expert, but the above is a summary of what I've collected and read. Hope it helps in your product selection

Sorry to hear that man. I've had my fair share of scratches as well. I've had one on my A-pillar which eventually I cannot tahan I decided to do something about it.

Like what buydirect mentioned, it all depends on how bad the scratch is. The scratch I had it was clearly visible and I can feel it if I run my hand over it. I'm got myself a bottle of Meguiars ScratchX 2.0 and just followed the instructions. The scratch is now totally invisible and unless you really know where it is and run your fingers over it, you'd probably not notice it.

It has a specific method of working and may or may not solve your issue. However, most shops would use either ScratchX or some cut and polish wax to help mask the scratch.

Maybe if you've got a photo of the scratches, it would be easier to make that assessment.

After applying ScratchX, I also applied some sealant/wax over it to help protect it as the pain would have thinned in that region.

Hope this helps

Most welcomed man!:)

I just use whatever sponge I can find, although if you could, go for one that is made by a known manufacturer. I'm guessing whether it's a name brand or an OEM/china made sponge they are pretty much the same, but some minor aspects like surface roughness might be different or more well refined in a name brand product.

Meguiars sponge is overpriced for what it is. I got a pair of turtle wax one which costs 1/4 that amount and has 2 pieces in it. For my whole car I only used 1 sponge. The Meguiars might have some benefit, but it's quite out of my budget as well for a sponge.

So I just try to strike a balance, i.e didn't go for the cheapest for the risk it may (not saying it will) introduce things like swirl marks etc. The turtle wax one seemed to fit the bill.



Here's what I did when applying my sealant, but this is not the proper process (kinda like a short cut since i'm not really into detailing but paint protection):

1) Wash the car. I used Turtle wax platinum wash (for budget reasons). Just give it a good once over, remove any dirt marks etc.

2) Dry it and dry it well. Make sure no water spots left behind

3) Apply sealant and let it dry. Whether to remove it one panel at a time, or apply to the whole car first, depends on your preference, although some cases, applying it and removing the sealant one panel at a time may have better effects/result. But it's subjective from what I read (and very time consuming)


If you've got some minor scratches, you can try to polish it away or use a product like ScratchX 2.0 to get rid of it. I got some markings, but I did not bother to remove it. For tougher marks and stains, you may need to clay it, but that's something I've not done yet. Once I do i'll probably share it here

Once the sealant is applied, the compound in the sealant will bond with the paint to help protect the paint. I am not sure if it literally adds an invisible layer on top of the paint to the point of sealing it completely. But if you've got some stains/scratches, it would potentially help prevent the underlying paint from being further damaged when exposed to wind, acid rain etc. (but I could be wrong on this, so if anyone's got inputs, do feel free to correct me)

Hope this helps

One final note is that different types of washes have different properties. Meguiars NXT wash from what I read tends to have slightly stronger cleaning properties and strips off just slightly more wax or sealant as compared to their gold class wash. So after this round, I might use their gold class wash instead.

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If you can't really feel it, you can give ScratchX 2.0 a try to see if it helps. These products will naturally thin the paint a little, so after using it, do wax or seal the paint with a sealer or wax. Synthetic sealants are best for this as the re-application interval is longer.

If it helps, here's a link of people who have used ScratchX 2.0 to remove scratches off their ride. Some seem pretty bad to me. Hopefully it serves as a good reference:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-media/pr...mg_see_all_img0


This post has been edited by perror: Apr 10 2014, 01:17 PM