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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX CLUB V45, new saga this sat? need to fix everyday!

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langatian
post Jun 16 2013, 03:28 AM

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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Jun 16 2013, 03:24 AM)
meaning behind can cross locked ah???like those the1 in racing???ganas sial.... blink.gif  blink.gif
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yeah.. maybe follow the ASEAN NCAP requirement. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 16 2013, 03:41 AM

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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Jun 16 2013, 03:24 AM)
meaning behind can cross locked ah???like those the1 in racing???ganas sial.... blink.gif  blink.gif
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QUOTE(langatian @ Jun 16 2013, 03:28 AM)
yeah.. maybe follow the ASEAN NCAP requirement.  biggrin.gif
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What cross lock? Normal lock what not meh? unsure.gif
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post Jun 16 2013, 03:48 AM

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QUOTE(danielcmugen @ Jun 16 2013, 03:41 AM)
What cross lock? Normal lock what not meh? unsure.gif
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cross lock means by bro mahihi is three point seat belt.

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while this is two point seat belt.

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they installed three point seat belt for safety reason and follow the requirement of Asean NCAP. smile.gif

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post Jun 16 2013, 03:52 AM

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QUOTE(langatian @ Jun 16 2013, 03:48 AM)
cross lock means by bro mahihi is three point seat belt.

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while this is two point seat belt.

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they installed three point seat belt for safety reason and follow the requirement of Asean NCAP.  smile.gif
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i was thinking of this actually,but then there is no head at the side there,nvm... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

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post Jun 16 2013, 03:56 AM

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which of the flx variant have ABS with EBD?
only the 1.6se? does standard and executive have it?
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post Jun 16 2013, 04:39 AM

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Done ~ after they use ECU reader check same error code .... then then check the brake lamp wiring is brake lamp wiring longgar fixed back gao dim ... also ask them check the handbrake they said still functoning well ~ checked all the hoses no air leaking so it should be iafm+ vacuum is higher then iafm ~ TBC with davidke20



and today gatal went to Sei So Hai HQ test dribe new gaga sv ... Diiuuuu not much different ~ getrag gear box problem also (kenjilew know what )... and they said added the V luggage brace but my feel is damn same as when i din install rear seat brace MTB then we and open boot c the V iron damn nipis ~ and i do realise our triangle rear seat brace is much more better .....and not to mention Ducaro GA not M3 thumbup.gif

So my review:

Everything same as standard except:
the free thing in ur boot tak ada ~
no coil mat
additional 1 i really feel useless V brace


so if u think to buy standard u can go for SV save u more and the thing they din give u can buy outside which will be cheaper than the different u earn ~

so in shrot SV=satndard ....

Powar window, ABS and EDB as usual come with only exec variant and above ...

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post Jun 16 2013, 04:59 AM

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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Jun 16 2013, 03:52 AM)
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i was thinking of this actually,but then there is no head at the side there,nvm... rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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cant catch your word this late nite.. rclxub.gif
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post Jun 16 2013, 08:07 AM

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QUOTE(langatian @ Jun 16 2013, 03:20 AM)
Your FLX+ got all 3 point seat belt at rear seat?

Coz Saga SV got this one..

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yes my saga have that 3 point midle seat belt
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post Jun 16 2013, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 14 2013, 10:28 PM)
On the stick, and hoping to have magician bulk as well, coz lazy to go find 1 yawn.gif Cock ring not needed at the moment rolleyes.gif
I've done mine few months back, whole rear brake system service
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When I open the drum, brake dust spill everywhere
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Look at the amount of brake dust stuck within the brake cylinder shaft, how to NOT jam the brake cylinder yawn.gif
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So, it happened once, it will happen again, just the matter of when yawn.gif
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How much for all these?

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post Jun 16 2013, 09:23 AM

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post Jun 16 2013, 09:36 AM

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This thread return hot like pisang goreng panas when saga sv is coming out. anyone already get saga sv? btw greetings from kuala terengganu.
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post Jun 16 2013, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(prototype @ Jun 16 2013, 03:56 AM)
which of the flx variant have ABS with EBD?
only the 1.6se? does standard and executive have it?
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1.3 Executive and 1.6 SE
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post Jun 16 2013, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(nash9701 @ Jun 16 2013, 09:16 AM)
How much for all these?

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Can't remember the exact price liao. If not mistaken, all in together with brake fluid is around RM200.

QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 31 2013, 10:01 PM)
Take a look at the right piece of the brake shoe, almost gone. The brake cylinder expanded but wouldn't retrieve. Rear left(passenger side) brake shoe like NEW because cylinder jammed and UNABLE to expand at all. Both side KO.
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The amount of brakedust got trapped in the brake hub, when your brake cylinder expanded, where does the dust go? The answer is stuck in your brake cylinder
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New brake cylinder, claimed to be imported from JAPORN.
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Semi metallic brake shoe, made in 山东, and claimed to be TUV certified
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Certainly a crap car sleep.gif everyday need to fix 1 sleep.gif
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post Jun 16 2013, 09:57 AM

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Speaking of brakes... time to service front disc brake liao yawn.gif Tibai crap car, everyday need to fix 1 sad.gif Izit because I drove like a cowboy or the car really crappy shakehead.gif

QUOTE(davidke20 @ Dec 29 2012, 06:54 PM)
Lately I've experience jerky braking. I was suspecting a warped disc rotor that causes it, but I have not experience any high speed motor sports that may heating up my brakes to the extend of warping it. Things got procrastinated over and over again, until lately I figured my brakes started to scream whenever I use them. As I reach my regular workshop, jack up the car and start to spin wheels to found out my driver side front wheel's brake was badly jammed. Without applying brake, the wheels need to use heavy force to pull it. It has been virtually no inertia tolerable anymore. So I decided to had the both front brakes serviced.

After remove wheels, to found out I left about 2mm worth of brakepad, anytime
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Brake fluid in the piston chamber is dark color, very dirty and oxidized
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Due to oxidized brake fluid, piston forged layer was also rusted
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Both side of the piston were oxidized, from the picture you can tell the driver side(front) piston had a thick layer of rust that causes the brake piston jammed, the other 1, matter of time
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As we worked on the passenger side caliper, to found out the piston chamber as dirty as my driver side's brake piston
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Cost of repair:
Bosch BLM brake pads = FREE(estimated RM60)
Caliper oil seals service kit = FREE(estimated RM30)
DOT4 brake fluid = FREE(estimated RM18)
Labor = RM30
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hmm.gif hmm.gif

seems legit. laugh.gif

(those who seen my key before will know what I mean)
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 16 2013, 09:59 AM)
user posted image

hmm.gif hmm.gif

seems legit. laugh.gif

(those who seen my key before will know what I mean)
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Eh?! You changed key liao meh? Or still the same VolksWagen key during last koyak incident? blink.gif blink.gif
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post Jun 16 2013, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 16 2013, 09:59 AM)
user posted image

hmm.gif hmm.gif

seems legit. laugh.gif

(those who seen my key before will know what I mean)
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Dunno what you mean at all unsure.gif


Saw an Elegant Brown FLX with Elegant Brown color rims thumbup.gif
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post Jun 16 2013, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(goohtj @ Jun 16 2013, 01:09 AM)
1 question for the DIYer on strengthening saga

anyone replace the soft metal bar at the front bumper?
[located behind front bumper]
l do find it is very soft,
see,
l had a small accident before when l knocked into a car's back
the front end curved in . the front damage include radiator, aircond etc

if the bar is more solid, then the unneccesory damages are reduced.
act like a kangaroo bar but hidden inside....
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hi all,as ive been informed,the saga sv is actually to replace the n-line saga variant which missing in flx variant.

the n-line saga had been exempted by jpj on compliancy of ece r94 and ece r95 which involve in protection mechanism,structural,material,design n etc for frontal collision n side impact on occupants. thats why u see structural reinforcement on saga sv,its actually comparing with the saga n-line previously.

while other variants such as bline,mline for blm,standard,exec for fl n flx comply with it.

however,the new improvement on the compliancy on ece r42 which is related to rear bumper, front bumper beam which now used foamless bumper beam system,made of high modulus poly propylene, n adding polypropylene foam in rear bumper. also include v shape bar bcoz need to comply with ece r17. same as 3rd 3 point seatbelt.

ece r42 isnt compulsory in malaysia coz in europe,this related to thatcham insurancance requirements.

ece r17 is new im malaysia,this year onwards,iinm,any new car entering malaysia must comply with atleast 54 ece r standards. it is more than 120++ece r standard. this is related to asean ncap being introduce.

about incompliance with ece r94 n ece r95, u will be shock on how many cars are not compliance with those standard in malaysia,asean n even asia bcoz its not compulsory previously. but u can download from jpj website on the list. for prtn,only n-line blm is on the list. thats why u can see a lot reinforcement .

even for baseline blm n mline blm.
the diff is it has 3 points seatbelt,v shape bar n material used for bumpers.

does drb bluffing? nope, what they r saying is true, coz compare to n-line blm,the cheapest blm.

thats why standard version of flx still there.

now,all standard,exec n se version, which call flx +, come with 3rd 3 point seatbelt, n v cage,n new bumper material.

by the way,even its a standard or compulsory those car intended to be sold in euro, but euroncap never test rear impact,same as ancap or any other caps in the world.

by the way,goodnews,not only frontal n side impact are compulsory in malaysia,but front n rear underride

anyhow,everybody will get better car soon.

just go n check list of cars exempted from ece r94 n ece r95 bcoz they dont comply@conform in jpj website.

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post Jun 16 2013, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(mat79 @ Jun 16 2013, 11:21 AM)
hi all,as ive been informed,the saga sv is actually to replace the n-line saga variant which missing in flx variant.

the n-line saga had been exempted by jpj on compliancy of ece r94 and ece r95 which involve in protection mechanism,structural,material,design n etc for frontal collision n side impact on occupants. thats why u see structural reinforcement on saga sv,its actually comparing with the saga n-line previously.

while other variants such as bline,mline for blm,standard,exec for fl n flx comply with it.

however,the new improvement on the compliancy on ece r42 which is related to rear bumper, front bumper beam which now used foamless bumper beam system,made of high modulus poly propylene, n adding polypropylene foam in rear bumper. also include v shape bar bcoz need to comply with ece r17. same as 3rd 3 point seatbelt.

ece r42 isnt compulsory in malaysia coz in europe,this related to thatcham insurancance requirements.

ece r17 is new im malaysia,this year onwards,iinm,any new car entering malaysia must comply with atleast 54 ece r standards. it is more than 120++ece r standard. this is related to asean ncap being introduce.

about incompliance with ece r94 n ece r95, u will be shock on how many cars are not compliance with those standard in malaysia,asean n even asia bcoz its not compulsory previously. but u can download from jpj website on the list. for prtn,only n-line blm is on the list. thats why u can see a lot reinforcement .

even for baseline blm n mline blm.
the diff is it has 3 points seatbelt,v shape bar n material used for bumpers.

does drb bluffing? nope, what they r saying is true, coz compare to n-line blm,the cheapest blm.

thats why standard version of flx still there.

now,all standard,exec n se version, which call flx +, come with 3rd 3 point seatbelt, n v cage,n new bumper material.

by the way,even its a standard or compulsory those car intended to be sold in euro, but euroncap never test rear impact,same as ancap or any other caps in the world.

by the way,goodnews,not only frontal n side impact are compulsory in malaysia,but front n rear underride

anyhow,everybody will get better car soon.

just go n check list of cars exempted from ece r94 n ece r95 bcoz they dont comply@conform in jpj website.
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Bro mat79, can the previous FLX be retrofitted with the rear middle 3-point seatbelt?

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post Jun 16 2013, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 16 2013, 11:24 AM)
Bro mat79, can the previous FLX be retrofitted with the rear middle 3-point seatbelt?
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