Well up to u on what to believe as i cant force u. The agents that called me have ready buyers. But i wasnt interested coz i know the value of good props can go even higher.

Foolish ? I for one is setting a firm date. And I say it again. MARKET WILL NOT CRASH IN 2013

I wonder why you don't dare to set a date. No confident about what you said yourself ? 

Again, "I am right until proven wrong", and "you are wrong until proven right". If you don't give a date, 1 day you sure will be right. But when ? Until then, what you said are just rubbish

That's the difference between the DDD and BBB camp....

there is always ppl want to buy....house is a minimum human right needs. It was just...can you able to get a loan for it? 

Not necessary. If price to high. I can still rent. If I feel that next year will have a property crash. You think it is still wise to buy even for own stay?

in fact, your bolded sentence is the rubbish one. who are you to determine a date ? are you telling people to play gambling with you or you are trying to tell people you are God ? no one can say exactly for sure when the bubble will burst. however, looking at the consistently sentiment in property market, the price is deviating a lot from what the majority of people can afford. These days, the property agents think malaysians are all born millionaire, so keep promising the property owner can sell more higher price, stupid and greedy as they are, they are actually cursing themselves. so, eventually majority people wont buy. of course these agents who are very conscious of their face, wont admit the truth, instead keep on twisting and turning...when in actual fact, any normal people, once have a look at it, already knew property is slowing.... 

Sometimes, I really pity those who missed the boat. Opportunity of a life time is lost. Some DDD camp like tat3179 and tikaram realised their mistake and turn to BBB mode. So, it is still not too late. I think they are clever, because they 不跟钱过不去. Whereas some die hard DDD camp still in denial mode after so many years and never given up on their belief. The only good thing about holding to their belief is that they limit their risk   

yeah lah.
but so many creative people at work nowadays.

5 years? sap sap sui.
there's launches stretching to 48 months delivery now.
so only need to hold one additional year.

some also allow free maintenance for 2 years.

coupled with DIBS, renovation loan, blah blah blah.
the average joe can still leverage to the max.

may i suggest:
1. no dibs (goes together with no creative financing nor funny rebates)
2. 20% downpayment ... period (no financing, no rebates, no discount, etc). if insist on discount, pay 20% of absolute final price. no subsidy into mark up price

hahaha....during the 2008 -2012 times, the property price rise more than 3% per annum. Even better then you work in a factory or so. Funny when I saw the price hike like money fall from the sky.

I like to see people wait, wait and keep waiting.
Will see what happen in 2014, enjoy yourself DDD camp

Wait.30 years old. Wait. 40 years old. Wait. 50 years old. Wait 60 years old. Wait 70 years old. Die

You are so true, whether you have 100 properties or non, end up will go to the same destination.
Now I fully understand why they keep waiting

That is the million dollar question ! 

The DDD camp can keep on saying it will crash 1 day. And historical trend showed this day will definitely come because everything that goes up, will come down. So, they are bound to be correct 1 day.

But when ? By believing "that day" will come, they have lost so much opportunities. They have missed the boat this round while many others make money. Of course, there is always risks to invest. High risk, high return. No risk, no return.

I have seen so many people become millionaires for the last 6-7 years, all because of property prices going up 2-3 folds. Buta-buta a man walking on the street who bought 2 DSL or 2 Condo in 2006 onwards is a millionaire now. Those who own land make even more money. Although many millionaires are still on paper, but at least they are millionaires in their own rights.

Sometimes, I really pity those who missed the boat. Opportunity of a life time is lost. Some DDD camp like tat3179 and tikaram realised their mistake and turn to BBB mode. So, it is still not too late. I think they are clever, because they 不跟钱过不去. Whereas some die hard DDD camp still in denial mode after so many years and never given up on their belief. The only good thing about holding to their belief is that they limit their risk   

As long as an investor has holding power, it is never too risky to invest. Even if the market crashed, but in long term property will shoot up again as proven in the 1980s and 1990s (2000s property market never really came down). So the key is holding power. If an investors have other sources like a job to service bank loans, even if it is not tenanted, the investors do not need to do fire sale. The real risk is the investor does not have holding power and over-leveraged.

Sorry to let you know...please stop saying i am BBB mode.

I am SSS mode la. 

I bought most of my property before i join lowyat.net and now selling slowly as I see 2016 generally is very hard ( which also explained my DDD view going forward)

I was buying 3 cheras mrt new properties after joining lowyat  bcs i can get associate special discounts. and see govt is doing good this on the LTV and RPGT... and thinking of moving to UUU camp if PR won... but the outcome is the history...... after that a friend share with the mrt route and enter the kepong rental units ( which is on fire sales)

Next time please do not quote my name BBB mode.

if you wanted to quote my name and BBB mode please show me which one from now 06.06.2013 onward ok?

One things,  i never said it will be crash....I said,  I forsee it is going down...... if  more  & stronger govt policy like the LTV30% and te RPGT etc... I might shift camp to UUU camp.

Those that i asked not kacau me and in my inoring list... again sorry and plese let me alone. No offence.

Again this stupid assumption.

What makes you think those who are believers in property crash "missed the boat"?

There are many (including myself) here that bought before in 2007/2008, and seeing the state of the market, sold out. Some others are Rooney, cybermaster, etc. There was even one former member that was a supposed "taikor" who admitted he sold off fully his multi-million ringgit portfolio back in v10 thread.

So yeah, continue believing in our "denial mode". But remember when you wanna fire sale that time, do post here. Maybe one of us will take the prop off your hands but of course for super cheap price la. 

Hi Everyone. I posted this problem on the forum under another heading and didnt get a very helpful response so please bear with me as i post it here on this forum. I know that the subject is irrelevant to property value discussion. In any case this is my dilemma.
I have bought a double storey apartment building of 4 apartments of 2000sf each. The building is on 10,000sf of land. The apartments have strata titles issued. I have plans to gut the building and convert into a double storey bungalow. My problem is how do I get rid of the strata titles and revert back to the original title?
If anyone here can get me on the right direction I would seriously appreciate it. I have been struggling with this for months and getting nowhere. Thanks in Advance.

Peri Peri Gor can help you.

try the silk residence thread.