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 V11 - Property Prices Discussion, Intelligent debates only pls

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SUStikaram
post May 31 2013, 09:18 AM

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warming here....

u will come at a point some up up up camp saying this again in V11.
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- Anytime is a good time to buy

- Properties prices will always go up in the long-term

- The market cannot collapse because of demand from foreigners

- Mickey mouse units are the trend of the future
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read more here why they said that? rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif http://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/property-...-151909308.html
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post May 31 2013, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(kochin @ May 31 2013, 01:02 PM)
am referring to general property prices both new launches and/or secondary market.
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I thought we are here " Intelligent debates only pls "

Why your gang Worgen keep talk not so intelligent here?

Can u talk talk to him?
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post May 31 2013, 01:01 PM

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Worgen = Kochin gor? hmm.gif

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faReZheLmi quote:

To me - as investor this should be a buying signal because you can take advantage in getting good property at discount price (considering not many people can buy property now due to very strict requirement to make loan).

I believe The cycle will go up soon - maybe in 1-2 years, where many people can easily obtain loan from commercial bank again. And that will be the selling signal where we should dispose to collect our capital and get ready to reinvest!

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@ faReZheLmi

above refer.

Maybe better not buying now...buying later?...more fire sales ma. hmm.gif

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SUStikaram
post May 31 2013, 02:48 PM

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u guy very free ka.... we are not interested on personal attacking la... that one is so yesterday...

i try to ignore u guy.... also keep kacau me..... jangan main main la... doh.gif

this is " Intelligent debates only "


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post Jun 4 2013, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(Dern @ Jun 1 2013, 12:47 PM)
hhmmm, you're very funny. you do realize in a coin there's 2 situation, yet you say you are only interested to know opportunity instead of losses, when both are actually related side by side. your replies is a bit stupid, no offence. the moment you admitted it wont benefit you anyway, i think it's very obvious you arent a investor or whatever that the people here claim they are.

but you are right on 1 thing, the property some are ridicilous.
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What happen to our belove Dern post? I think i gave +99 and Like... Got missing?

Got deleted again by that BIAS moderator? laugh.gif

Okok...

Like this Dern comment very much.

a coin there's 2 situation.....see this property cycle? the even worst one for Japan....


+99 from me for Dern above comment. laugh.gif


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post Jun 4 2013, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Jun 4 2013, 04:25 PM)
As far as I know after GE till now....... Contractors and developers that i know are moving forward, getting more busy...... Will the price drop?..... tongue.gif
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i gave another view to balance up

developer
1) more time/ busy to " promote" it.
2) spend more money on marketing
3) offer better this and that dibs la, discount la .....
4) more dirty ways
5) need to launch more faster eg using option sales. Even before VP obtain

etc

etc.
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post Jun 4 2013, 05:16 PM

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this one lagoon suites some one pay a bit cheaper la.

another project sime darby got people comment new launching is cheaper than old launching la. --->

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...2&hl=denai+alam

Just 2 example one is sub-sales and one new launch -

sharing is caring tongue.gif



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post Jun 4 2013, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Jun 4 2013, 06:20 PM)
actually the asking is still high. just the valuation is low.

sometimes there got another arrangement between actual purchaser price versus SPA price.  tongue.gif
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oh.....

very good...

something price is higher actually also got arrangement with buyer to push up purchase price so that no need to pay any downpayment and can get money form bank to finance renovation too. tongue.gif
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post Jun 4 2013, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(tikaram @ Jun 4 2013, 06:22 PM)
oh.....

very good...

something price is higher actually also got arrangement with buyer to push up purchase price so that no need to pay any downpayment and can get money form bank to finance renovation too. tongue.gif
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sharing is caring ya icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 4 2013, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Jun 4 2013, 06:32 PM)
new 1 tongue.gif
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the one paying 390k still untung 10k compare 400k

the remaining as quote above : " something price is higher actually also got arrangement with buyer to push up purchase price so that no need to pay any downpayment and can get money form bank to finance renovation too". tongue.gif



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post Jun 4 2013, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Jun 4 2013, 06:40 PM)
as long as there are many the same range price, do not worry much then.  tongue.gif
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it only need 1% increase in BLR to create fire sales with so many vacant units. tongue.gif
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post Jun 5 2013, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(prody @ Jun 5 2013, 01:45 PM)
I'm own stay and would not cry.

Trying to sell my house but nobody even wants to come view at these crazy prices.
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u already said crazy price.... lower down abit la.... sure got people view one....

can also pm me? I might able to help your buyer get valuation high price...FOC one. smile.gif
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post Jun 6 2013, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Jun 5 2013, 10:17 PM)
That is the million dollar question !  thumbup.gif

The DDD camp can keep on saying it will crash 1 day. And historical trend showed this day will definitely come because everything that goes up, will come down. So, they are bound to be correct 1 day.

But when ? By believing "that day" will come, they have lost so much opportunities. They have missed the boat this round while many others make money. Of course, there is always risks to invest. High risk, high return. No risk, no return.

I have seen so many people become millionaires for the last 6-7 years, all because of property prices going up 2-3 folds. Buta-buta a man walking on the street who bought 2 DSL or 2 Condo in 2006 onwards is a millionaire now. Those who own land make even more money. Although many millionaires are still on paper, but at least they are millionaires in their own rights.

Sometimes, I really pity those who missed the boat. Opportunity of a life time is lost. Some DDD camp like tat3179 and tikaram realised their mistake and turn to BBB mode. So, it is still not too late. I think they are clever, because they 不跟钱过不去. Whereas some die hard DDD camp still in denial mode after so many years and never given up on their belief. The only good thing about holding to their belief is that they limit their risk  laugh.gif 

As long as an investor has holding power, it is never too risky to invest. Even if the market crashed, but in long term property will shoot up again as proven in the 1980s and 1990s (2000s property market never really came down). So the key is holding power. If an investors have other sources like a job to service bank loans, even if it is not tenanted, the investors do not need to do fire sale. The real risk is the investor does not have holding power and over-leveraged.
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Sorry to let you know...please stop saying i am BBB mode.

I am SSS mode la.

I bought most of my property before i join lowyat.net and now selling slowly as I see 2016 generally is very hard ( which also explained my DDD view going forward)

I was buying 3 cheras mrt new properties after joining lowyat bcs i can get associate special discounts. and see govt is doing good this on the LTV and RPGT... and thinking of moving to UUU camp if PR won... but the outcome is the history...... after that a friend share with the mrt route and enter the kepong rental units ( which is on fire sales)

Next time please do not quote my name BBB mode.

if you wanted to quote my name and BBB mode please show me which one from now 06.06.2013 onward ok?

One things, i never said it will be crash....I said, I forsee it is going down...... if more & stronger govt policy like the LTV30% and te RPGT etc... I might shift camp to UUU camp.

Those that i asked not kacau me and in my inoring list... again sorry and plese let me alone. No offence. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 6 2013, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(tikaram @ Jun 6 2013, 02:05 PM)
Sorry to let you know...please stop saying i am BBB mode.

I am SSS mode la. 

I bought most of my property before i join lowyat.net and now selling slowly as I see 2016 generally is very hard ( which also explained my DDD view going forward)

I was buying 3 cheras mrt new properties after joining lowyat  bcs i can get associate special discounts. and see govt is doing good this on the LTV and RPGT... and thinking of moving to UUU camp if PR won... but the outcome is the history...... after that a friend share with the mrt route and enter the kepong rental units ( which is on fire sales)

Next time please do not quote my name BBB mode.

if you wanted to quote my name and BBB mode please show me which one from now 06.06.2013 onward ok?

One things,  i never said it will be crash....I said,  I forsee it is going down...... if  more  & stronger govt policy like the LTV30% and te RPGT etc... I might shift camp to UUU camp.

Those that i asked not kacau me and in my inoring list... again sorry and plese let me alone. No offence. icon_rolleyes.gif
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one more very important things..

I hardly asked people don't buy.... i might said this good meah...that good meah... but i always said if you

"like it, need it, can pay 20 down payment, loan only 1/3 of your net income. u most likely can go ahead"

remember that? i wrote that so many times already.


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post Jun 6 2013, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(Aventador360 @ Jun 6 2013, 02:25 PM)
Hi Everyone. I posted this problem on the forum under another heading and didnt get a very helpful response so please bear with me as i post it here on this forum. I know that the subject is irrelevant to property value discussion. In any case this is my dilemma.
I have bought a double storey apartment building of 4 apartments of 2000sf each. The building is on 10,000sf of land. The apartments have strata titles issued. I have plans to gut the building and convert into a double storey bungalow. My problem is how do I get rid of the strata titles and revert back to the original title?
If anyone here can get me on the right direction I would seriously appreciate it. I have been struggling with this for months and getting nowhere. Thanks in Advance.
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Peri Peri Gor can help you.

try the silk residence thread.
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post Jun 7 2013, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Jun 6 2013, 08:18 PM)
Nice stage play to round up what happened in the past 5-6 years. Like zuiko said, the title of the play is "missing the boat"

The luxurious express bus with aircond has gone. Now those who didn't buy a ticket are still waiting. The next bus is definitely not express bus anymore. Maybe no aircond some more.

But if he still insist doesn't want to buy the bus ticket, he will forever be at the starting point.....

It is sad to see others successfully boarding the express bus while he still remain at square 1 with nothing in the pocket cry.gif
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The bus go and never return.

But property cycle go up sometime can come down....just like the usa,Japan cycle.
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post Jun 7 2013, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(agentdiary @ Jun 6 2013, 05:58 PM)
"Son, pls look for a good property below 1m, I want to buy"

"Why you want to buy a property, mum?"

"Well, I heard the price has tripled"

Son, "Em... the right time to buy is before it tripled"
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The son can also answer another ways..."mun, ... Let wait for price to come down abit ... Just like how Japanese people waiting price drop from 80's to 2011."

or "mun,...do u like it?...need it?...can we afford it?...if yes...yes i will look fir it"

Now. What do u think?
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post Jun 7 2013, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(tikaram @ Jun 7 2013, 01:17 AM)
The bus go and never return.

But property cycle go up sometime can come down....just like the usa,Japan cycle.
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This chart will explain the Japan and usa cycle ....sometime can come down...

First see the USA chart......we use ticket la.

Mr A bought ticket for the "ship" or "the bus" in 2005...come back to 2013... never reach his destination.

If Mr A bought ticket in 2006. The captain / driver lead him to 2012/2013 destination.

If Mr bought the ticket in 2007, 2008, 2009... he bought the wrong ticket because the ticket not going up but coming down

New see the Japan Chart

Mr J bought the ticket in 1992 where ticket price index at the highest 130...

The captain/ bus driver lead Mr J to hollan and until now also not yet come back.

Most likely the captain/ bus driver already jump from my 14th floor condo and leaving son without father and wife without husband.

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Conclusion: stop using the ship ticket and the bus ticket to explain property.

No offence. icon_rolleyes.gif


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QUOTE(agentdiary @ Jun 7 2013, 02:16 AM)
A prose for real estate: REAL. Real gain, real excitement, real fun, real dream before meeting the sandman for those who dream too much

Debts is loaded enough like a dark clout before heavy rains

mortgage spread has widening but no none seem to care

Will you care about Charles Mackay?

owning no property is rightly equated to a man who never enter into a lady

most is no fool cause they are smart enough not to review their trueness

isn't old wisdom said, "always the fool is camouflaged with great blessing in the end?"

of course they're no fool but just haven't bought a property yet, how unfair life can become sometime .....

for DDD: probably get too inspired from the youtube videos featuring those pundits rightly predicted before the US collapse and motivated to join the club as a guy who secretly posses a Palantiri in his backyard.

for BBB: making a few buck perhaps millions have over-charged the brain with too much hi juice call adrenalin that need to be released regularly in lowyat like a wet dream

why spare endless energy/time on this never 'add more zero in your bank a/c' attempt but pumping self ego DDD BBB arguments?

As useless as feces but don't be sarcastic! cause the process of getting it out was where the real fun lied!

We are entering into a new territory that won't make either BBB DDD happier.

Stagnation. No more big up or collapse. But a boring waiting like a delayed flight at LCCT.

Upset? Better go to play stock market. Erroneous vix is guaranteed. Yes, 'playing' is a right word. Another ideal place, drive head up to the hill.

Investing is an emotionless boring serious business.

At the far side, developers can finally sign for a breath of relieve clearing their stocks.

The govt is surely far smarter than you though. Proven in 0505, denial-ners get it or not?

Aren't real estate makes the GDP number good and off-set more and more bad number from trades and earnings?

Oh, never underestimate the earning in stamp duty, RPGT, GST from the real estate. That's a solid reason why it's so real.

That's why everybody love the real estate and feel no shame or reserve to declare an association with it that, "I am part of it!" 

For doom-sayer hoping to see the market to collapse, be positive as Tony Robbin encourages, eat organic food, exercise and look for the bright side for the day to arrive.

Just a piece of advice: Just make sure you don't chicken out and pretending you're not at home when it knocks your front door.


Afterwords: don't angry with me, blame the whisky....
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Judge : " Now you have cause the death of women. Are you guity."

Driver: " Judge. I am not guilty . please don't blame me. please blame the whisky..."

So, my conclusion. There is no obsolute answer. Because...it is all about human behavior... human are complex. Moday =moody. Friday= happy

For me? passion.

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post Jun 7 2013, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(CroZz @ Jun 7 2013, 09:54 AM)
Its so funny...when people share they buy cheap stuff then say "Wah why got DDD buying? I don't get it, they should be waiting"...when don't share then say "See where got drop?"...don't know if the purpose of asking is really for an answer hahaha.
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Already someone asked he/she explain this... but next month...he will asked the same question...."share buy cheap stuff" doh.gif

the same with the missing ship again... doh.gif

that is why please consider adding him/her to ignoring list.

some poeple never come back to here because really be ta han with them and they will said... who and who missing in action. doh.gif doh.gif...syiok syiok among them only doh.gif doh.gif

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