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post Mar 18 2007, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(silrave @ Mar 18 2007, 01:13 AM)
need to ask u if i wanna change the video languange can?
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Provided that your video has a 2nd track with another language. Yes. But if it doesn't then No.

You can switch audio tracks with MPC and VLC.
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post Mar 18 2007, 01:43 AM

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how to change can teach me?
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post Mar 18 2007, 03:56 AM

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QUOTE(silrave @ Mar 18 2007, 01:43 AM)
how to change can teach me?
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just right click on the movie, goto audio and select the audio (language) u wanted.
that is, provided the video has more than 1 audio language.
but if it's not, then cannot change lah.

edit: so far i only know 1 video format that can has more than 1 language, and that is matroska format (.MKV).

there are others, maybe..it's just i don't know about them..

This post has been edited by coolmast3r: Mar 18 2007, 03:58 AM
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post Mar 18 2007, 10:29 AM

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^^ What he said. .VOB files that are directly ripped from DVDs can have them as well if they bother to include it in the first place.
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post Mar 18 2007, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(coolmast3r @ Mar 18 2007, 03:56 AM)
just right click on the movie, goto audio and select the audio (language) u wanted.
that is, provided the video has more than 1 audio language.
but if it's not, then cannot change lah.

edit: so far i only know 1 video format that can has more than 1 language, and that is matroska format (.MKV).

there are others, maybe..it's just i don't know about them..
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hmm if i change the name to xxxxx.MKV it already be mkv format but i right click audio jz have 1 means that video only have 1 language?if i wanna other langauage cannot de?
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post Mar 20 2007, 05:01 AM

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QUOTE(silrave @ Mar 18 2007, 07:12 PM)
hmm if i change the name to xxxxx.MKV it already be mkv format but i right click audio jz have 1 means that video only have 1 language?if i wanna other langauage cannot de?
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*cough*
the file must be encoded with matroska format (.MKV) in the first hand.
for example u have a video called myVideo.mpg.

then u have 2 audio files for the video, let say Audio1.mp3 & Audio2.mp3

then u encode all 3 files (video, udio1 & audio2) to matroska format.

only then u have a valid matroska files and those 2 audio can be change la..
simply renaming the files (e.g: .AVI to .MKV) will not change anything.
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QUOTE(coolmast3r @ Mar 20 2007, 05:01 AM)
*cough*
the file must be encoded with matroska format (.MKV) in the first hand.
for example u have a video called myVideo.mpg.

then u have 2 audio files for the video, let say Audio1.mp3 & Audio2.mp3

then u encode all 3 files (video, udio1 & audio2) to matroska format.

only then u have a valid matroska files and those 2 audio can be change la..
simply renaming the files (e.g: .AVI to .MKV) will not change anything.
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wao pro...can teach me how to encode second u say the audio1.mp3 and audio2.mp3 if i don't have can i find it?
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post Mar 21 2007, 05:16 PM

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^^wow that is hard..
i dunno where to find dubbed audio..


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post Mar 21 2007, 06:56 PM

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Clarification, mkv is not a video format, its just a container that containes the video stream and audio stream

If you wanna add audio, just take 2 audios and mux it into MKV, no need to encode, just remux

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post Mar 23 2007, 12:46 PM

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start by googling mkvtoolnix
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post Mar 25 2007, 04:25 AM

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^haha.. ya ya remux..
i forgot the exact word.. sweat.gif
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post Apr 6 2007, 07:54 PM

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hi guys, I want to use SubtitleWorkshop to convert .srt to .sub.
so, i load the .srt and then choose SaveAs, but I was prompted to choose 1 of the format.

I tried a few, but none of them work on Windows MP or Media Player Classic. sad.gif

how do I know which one to choose?

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and I thought Media Player Classic should be able to play my .avi with the .srt subtitle?
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post Apr 7 2007, 10:23 AM

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Make sure you installed DirectVobSub (VSFilter) | Link |. It's main purpose is to display subtitle based on DirectShow.

It may come with most codec packs also. You may install stand alone or install from codec packs.
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post Apr 11 2007, 01:25 AM

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hey keyz, thanks a lot!

so, this .srt is consider as soft sub?
and .sub is hard sub?

like in my previous question, i tried to convert the .srt to .sub.
but am not sure which .sub to choose. how can we identified them?

This post has been edited by bobtiang: Apr 11 2007, 01:26 AM
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post Apr 11 2007, 02:12 AM

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The oldskool mpg format sometimes contain dual audio. Basically it just a stereo where they split it into two language for each channel. So, you want to eliminate one of the channel so you can hear one language only at the same time. In Media player classic there is an option called Audio Switcher. Enable custom channel mapping, and tick the appropriate channel you want to hear only.


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QUOTE(bobtiang @ Apr 11 2007, 01:25 AM)
hey keyz, thanks a lot!

so, this .srt is consider as soft sub?
and .sub is hard sub?

like in my previous question, i tried to convert the .srt to .sub.
but am not sure which .sub to choose. how can we identified them?
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Both are softsub. Hardsubs are subtitles which is hardcoded during the process of video encoding. It becomes one entity as in the video itself.

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post Apr 17 2007, 06:08 PM

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In layman terms, any subtitles that comes externally or embedded and can be removed are softsubs.(MKV for an example)
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post Apr 18 2007, 01:50 PM

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Hardsubs is the subtitles/wordings that are permanently/forever "printed"/"displayed" as part of your video.

And I found a website that shows how to make hardsub so that we can burn vcd/dvd with subtitle in it so that can watch on vcd/dvd player. It is quite simple.

http://www.divxland.org/permanentsubtitling.php

Just need 3 softwares :
VirtualDub -- Video edition and conversion utility
VirtualDub subtitler filter -- VD filter to embed SSA subtitles with video
DivXLand Media Subtitler -- Subtitle editor and converter

You can even change the font type, font size and color of your subtitle.
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post May 2 2007, 01:10 PM

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wont it take forever 2 paste the subtitle? i tried using virtual dub b4 it took me hours den i gave up...anyone have recommendations on which prog 2 make hard sub in a faster and efficient way??thx
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post May 11 2007, 05:31 PM

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hardsubbing a video takes that long, because you have to reencode the whole video with the text on it,
There are 2 ways for you to do it
1. virtualdub + vsfilter + your subtitle file(*.srt,*.ssa,*.ass, other subtitle file)
but this can only let you encode according to what codec you have installed in your computer (H.264 encoding not supported in vdub or vdubmod)
2. megui + avisynth + vsfilter.dll + your subtitle file
with this you can encode your video stream in H.264 and put in matroska container or mp4 container (*.mkv,*.mp4)

hardsubbing subtitles is considered very simple if you compare it to make subtitles, timing, and making karaoke effects

WARNING: It is not advisable for you to hardsub subtitles to video because it will cause your video file to degrade in video quality, keep it softsubbed if possible, and if you do not know how to configure the settings for the encoder, the resulting encoded video would be larger than the source and is a waste of space and would drop the video quality by quite a lot that it will be easily noticeable.

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QUOTE(wartevar @ May 2 2007, 01:10 PM)
wont it take forever 2 paste the subtitle? i tried using virtual dub b4 it took me hours den i gave up...anyone have recommendations on which prog 2 make hard sub in a faster and efficient way??thx
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u need to transcode it again with the subs, that is why it takes a long time. Plus it all depends on your bitrate settings too for the final output file size. If u want it fast, choose the lowest quality settings with 1 pass and you're done but don't expect good quality out of it

koayty : H264 also has vfw but lacks in some settings. So it is supported in VirtualDub, just that it won't be 100% compliant.

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