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post May 21 2013, 10:57 AM, updated 3y ago

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Sime Darby is showing progress with Denai Alam and Elmina that have been selling like hotcakes.

How much of percentage profit can the successful purchasers be looking at?



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post May 21 2013, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(New Klang @ May 21 2013, 11:57 AM)
Sime Darby is showing progress with Denai Alam and Elmina that have been selling like hotcakes.

How much of percentage profit can the successful purchasers be looking at?
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need to wait 5 more years to know
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post May 21 2013, 11:16 AM

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Mutiara Damansara residents protested.

State government have not approve the project.

What happen if it is realigned further north and terminated at NKVE instead of LDP?
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post May 21 2013, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(New Klang @ May 21 2013, 11:16 AM)


State government have not approve the project.


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Are you sure?..sos please..never heard of it
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post May 21 2013, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(feezar25 @ May 21 2013, 12:07 PM)
Are you sure?..sos please..never heard of it
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I am unsure. My story is old news.

Do you have the latest news to share?

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post May 21 2013, 03:02 PM

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Huh? Elevated?
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post May 21 2013, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(AMINT @ May 21 2013, 03:02 PM)
Huh? Elevated?
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Yes.

Heard lots of residents protest the plan to build behind their houses
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post May 21 2013, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(New Klang @ May 21 2013, 03:26 PM)
Yes.

Heard lots of residents protest the plan to build behind their houses
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Yes. If not mistaken, if elevated will make surrounding houses not good feng shui since it is above and houses are below. Somemore more noisy to houses and dusty too. Normal highway is better
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post May 21 2013, 03:50 PM

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how to build a normal hw through the housing area and the big huge condo around damansara perdana?

best bet is they will do a re-alignment to the routing again and bypass mutiara and damasara perdana.

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post May 21 2013, 03:55 PM

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The Damansara people most likely won't let it pass. They will protest strongly and it is too expensive to cross too.


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post May 21 2013, 04:01 PM

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public transportation is under state or federal?
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QUOTE(WayneLee828 @ May 21 2013, 03:50 PM)
how to build a normal hw through the housing area and the big huge condo around damansara perdana?

best bet is they will do a re-alignment to the routing again and bypass mutiara and damasara perdana.
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U got a point there. Sorry, i never really checked the alignment coz not really bothered with DASH previously
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QUOTE(New Klang @ May 21 2013, 10:57 AM)
Sime Darby is showing progress with Denai Alam and Elmina that have been selling like hotcakes.

How much of percentage profit can the successful purchasers be looking at?
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SimeDarby Selling like hotcakes because most of the buyer is them-self.
Before Elmina open to public,SD staff has buy it & around 70% is taking out by them.
Denai Alam also is taking out by most of their staff last few years...If you get in Denai Alam,occupancy rate is low,a lot of empty houses.
If you are bumi buyer,you will has a lot of percentage earning compare with non bumi buyer. 20% earning after VP is normal,but need people buy 1st..
If you is big fish investor,just go to the place near Kampung Melayu Subang or subang 2.The price persf there still is cheap compare to Denai/Elmina.
After highway done & the area boom up,freehold/leasehold became no important. but all this is depend on highway completed & RRIM half cook developed.

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post May 21 2013, 04:56 PM

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BN was hoping to take over Selangor for this reason.
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post May 21 2013, 07:30 PM

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From Denai Alam till Elmina....the DASH Highway still is a proposal....
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post May 21 2013, 08:45 PM

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Aiya already said need to wait 5 years la. pr won sel and won't allow this to be built on environment impact. go check that damansara perdana thread.

Got newspaper. i also masuk paper with orang asli

Wait 5 year la until bn get sel
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DASH and SUKE is part of the 7 highways approved plan under RMK-10 and has been awarded to Prolintas Sdn BHd. We can talk politic all we want, but who ever be the federal gov the project is still on. Sometimes we need to know how to separate between sentiment and country growth. Selangor PR never said it opposed the Highway (not very smart gov if they do), only final re-alignment of the highway needed to be calculated properly as it involved a lot of "rakyat"..

Where got Highway in Malaysia got nobody oppose one..MRR2,DUKE,LDP even federal highway also got people complaint last time..project still ON..
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friends in the construction industry already confirmed the construction already started. there maybe some realignment due to the protest, but don't put too much hope on this realignment yet.
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post May 21 2013, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(feezar25 @ May 21 2013, 10:13 PM)
DASH and SUKE is part of the 7 highways approved plan under RMK-10 and has been awarded to Prolintas Sdn BHd. We can talk politic all we want, but who ever be the federal gov the project is still on. Sometimes we need to know how to separate between sentiment and country growth. Selangor PR never said it opposed the Highway (not very smart gov if they do), only final re-alignment of the highway needed to be calculated properly as it involved a lot of "rakyat"..

Where got Highway in Malaysia got nobody oppose one..MRR2,DUKE,LDP even federal highway also got people complaint last time..project still ON..
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It is very subjective on smart. it can be smart to sd investor but not smartfm to dp investor right? or orang asli ?

Sel govt using environment impact stop it & will stop it in next 5 year as pr is in war with this glc company. this fact right now. I don't know that will happen next month. maybe pr march to putrajaya and ok with the glc ?
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QUOTE(tikaram @ May 21 2013, 09:27 PM)
It is very subjective on smart. it can be smart to sd investor  but not smartfm to dp investor right? or orang asli ?

Sel govt using environment impact stop it & will stop it in next 5 year as pr is in war with this glc company. this fact right now. I don't know that will happen next month. maybe pr march to putrajaya and ok with the glc ?
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Hehehe...politic again. Just so u know..I pangkah PR too.
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post May 21 2013, 09:56 PM

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I think DASH will help relief some of the already congested NKVE highway. DASH + LRT / MRT to shah alam then this a perfect combo.
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post May 22 2013, 10:17 AM

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DASH should start from Puncak Perdana and end at NKVE without passing through Damansara Perdana and Mutiara.


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post May 22 2013, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(New Klang @ May 22 2013, 11:17 AM)
DASH should start from Puncak Perdana and end at NKVE without passing through Damansara Perdana and Mutiara.
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if without passing through DP & mutiara.

Dash will rugi bankyak. less volumn less money.

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QUOTE(ceveori @ May 22 2013, 12:37 PM)
can pass kd as alternative
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Persiaran Surian is already occupied by the elevated MRT, unless they have the cost effective technology to build a 3 tiered elevated highway, I doubt they will re-alignt it trough KD.

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post May 23 2013, 09:09 AM

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I think more attention should be done at Subang/USJ area where traffic is getting worse. Here the case is more likely to be trying to push higher the cheap land value. Those who bought the land/houses at very cheap price before DASH will benefit greatly.
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post Jun 11 2013, 12:07 PM

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From someone who works at Mutiara Damansara and lives in Klang, any alternative highway would be most welcomed. My journey home on weekdays is a nightmare. During peak (or sometimes even after 8pm, depending on luck), it takes me 30 minutes to get out of Mutiara Damansara, 10 minutes or less to drive through the back alley that goes through Bukit Utama to link back to the Sprint, Another 20 minutes or more to make it on to the Sprint and U-turn to the NKVE Toll, A 25 to 30 minutes nightmare from the Toll gate to the NKVE highway, and another 10 to 15 minutes to crawl from Damansara till after the Subang exit for traffic to ease a bit. Tried alternative route from Kota Damansara to Subang Airport road via Ara Damansara and it's the same... massive crawls at the Subang Airport road these days... Sigh...
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QUOTE(attw @ Jun 11 2013, 12:07 PM)
From someone who works at Mutiara Damansara and lives in Klang, any alternative highway would be most welcomed. My journey home on weekdays is a nightmare. During peak (or sometimes even after 8pm, depending on luck), it takes me 30 minutes to get out of Mutiara Damansara, 10 minutes or less to drive through the back alley that goes through Bukit Utama to link back to the Sprint, Another 20 minutes or more to make it on to the Sprint and U-turn to the NKVE Toll, A 25 to 30 minutes nightmare from the Toll gate to the NKVE highway, and another 10 to 15 minutes to crawl from Damansara till after the Subang exit for traffic to ease a bit. Tried alternative route from Kota Damansara to Subang Airport road via Ara Damansara and it's the same... massive crawls at the Subang Airport road these days... Sigh...
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Ya man, NKVE traffic getting worse. Need an alternative route.

You can try Kota Damansara > Sg Buloh Road > Guthrie > NKVE Shah Alam toll > Exit at NKVE Klang. Not sure how much time you can save thru this route. Good luck !

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QUOTE(attw @ Jun 11 2013, 01:07 PM)
From someone who works at Mutiara Damansara and lives in Klang, any alternative highway would be most welcomed. My journey home on weekdays is a nightmare. During peak (or sometimes even after 8pm, depending on luck), it takes me 30 minutes to get out of Mutiara Damansara, 10 minutes or less to drive through the back alley that goes through Bukit Utama to link back to the Sprint, Another 20 minutes or more to make it on to the Sprint and U-turn to the NKVE Toll, A 25 to 30 minutes nightmare from the Toll gate to the NKVE highway, and another 10 to 15 minutes to crawl from Damansara till after the Subang exit for traffic to ease a bit. Tried alternative route from Kota Damansara to Subang Airport road via Ara Damansara and it's the same... massive crawls at the Subang Airport road these days... Sigh...
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can you asked your boss to let you go early or you start your work early.

my ex-boss allow staffs option start work 7.30am and go home at 4.30

most people staying KK, bukit tinggi take this option and avoid jam and petrol.

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QUOTE(tikaram @ Jun 13 2013, 12:54 PM)
can you asked your boss to let you go early or you start your work early.

my ex-boss allow staffs  option start work 7.30am and go home at 4.30

most people staying KK, bukit tinggi take this option and avoid jam and petrol.
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Latest news.

Prolintas to make a study.

http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...icle/index_html



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QUOTE(New Klang @ Dec 10 2013, 11:07 AM)
wrong statement, study already done long time ago.

Fadillah said although land acquisition for both projects is ongoing, Prolintas will have to meet the conditions precedent before it could commence construction.

The conditions include details such as the financial aspect and technical capability of the company, and all reports pertaining to public consultation.

"Prolintas has 12 months, from the date of signing the CAs, to comply with the conditions precedent. Go or no go for the projects will depend on whether Prolintas comply with the conditions precedent.

"There will be a special committee to analyse the details and reports. If they can fulfil all the terms and conditions, they can start early. Otherwise, it will be 12 months from now," Fadillah told Business Times.

Fadillah said Prolintas has given his ministry the initial documents for both projects, which include questionnaires to have a public consultation.

Read more: Prolintas clinches RM11.5b deals http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...l#ixzz2n2QGkb4D
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QUOTE(elmond @ Dec 10 2013, 11:10 AM)
wrong statement, study already done long time ago.

Fadillah said although land acquisition for both projects is ongoing, Prolintas will have to meet the conditions precedent before it could commence construction.

The conditions include details such as the financial aspect and technical capability of the company, and all reports pertaining to public consultation.

"Prolintas has 12 months, from the date of signing the CAs, to comply with the conditions precedent. Go or no go for the projects will depend on whether Prolintas comply with the conditions precedent.

"There will be a special committee to analyse the details and reports. If they can fulfil all the terms and conditions, they can start early. Otherwise, it will be 12 months from now," Fadillah told Business Times.

Fadillah said Prolintas has given his ministry the initial documents for both projects, which include questionnaires to have a public consultation.

Read more: Prolintas clinches RM11.5b deals http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...l#ixzz2n2QGkb4D
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Thanks for the correction.

So you think this will be a go or no-go?

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QUOTE(New Klang @ Dec 10 2013, 11:25 AM)
Thanks for the correction.

So you think this will be a go or no-go?
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anything with GLC, easy go.
finance and technical not even a problem with Prolintas (PNB pwned)
the public feedback was just show show only, do you ever see any project stop because of protest?

i got some study on the dash highway. the design was good, max 2 +1 toll design

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QUOTE(elmond @ Dec 10 2013, 11:54 AM)
anything with GLC, easy go.
finance and technical not even a problem with Prolintas (PNB pwned)
the public feedback was just show show only, do you ever see any project stop because of protest?

i got some study on the dash highway. the design was good,  max 2 +1 toll design
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QUOTE(elmond @ Dec 10 2013, 11:54 AM)
anything with GLC, easy go.
finance and technical not even a problem with Prolintas (PNB pwned)
the public feedback was just show show only, do you ever see any project stop because of protest?

i got some study on the dash highway. the design was good,  max 2 +1 toll design
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From the study that you have, which location will benefit more and which location will lose out?
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everyone benefit, no lose out so far
mutiara damansara can go nkve
dataran sunway can go penchala link

for puncak perdana u10 definitely beat the morning traffic jam along jalan batu arang and jalan sungai buloh,

there is a exit & entry purposely for kwasa damansara (MBPJ portion too)

the elevated highway was really design for toll, so from denai alam to jalan lapangan terbang must paid toll.
i'm not sure about from jalan lapangan terbang to denai alam, the drafting was unclear,

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QUOTE(elmond @ Dec 10 2013, 01:22 PM)
everyone benefit, no lose out so far
mutiara damansara can go nkve
dataran sunway can go penchala link

for puncak perdana u10 definitely beat the morning traffic jam along jalan batu arang and jalan sungai buloh,

there is a exit & entry purposely for kwasa damansara (MBPJ portion too)

the elevated highway was really design for toll, so from denai alam to jalan lapangan terbang must paid toll.
i'm not sure about from jalan lapangan terbang to denai alam, the drafting was unclear,
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This should be interesting and money spinner for many parties.

Hope to see this starts soon.

Any pending conditions from the Selangor Government?
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QUOTE(New Klang @ Dec 10 2013, 02:12 PM)
This should be interesting and money spinner for many parties.

Hope to see this starts soon.

Any pending conditions from the Selangor Government?
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MBSA already have it inside local plan
MBPJ not sure yet

double check the darft again, looks like no way to use part of the dash highway for free, once you enter must paid at least one toll to exit

when come to paid toll or skip toll, all suddenly become talent de.

BTW, one of the condition benefir current road user was upgrade the road below elevated to at lest two lanes

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QUOTE(elmond @ Dec 10 2013, 02:17 PM)
MBSA already have it inside local plan
MBPJ not sure yet

double check the darft again, looks like no way to use part of the dash highway for free, once you enter must paid at least one toll to exit

when come to paid toll or skip toll, all suddenly become talent de.

BTW, one of the condition benefir current road user was upgrade the road below elevated to at lest two lanes
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I'd imagine this highway will be similar to NPE.

The question is whether the existing road has adequate reserve land to accommodate an overhead parallel highway.

Toll booths to put on the upgraded existing toll free road?




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QUOTE(New Klang @ Dec 10 2013, 03:52 PM)
I'd imagine this highway will be similar to NPE.

The question is whether the existing road has adequate reserve land to accommodate an overhead parallel highway.

Toll booths to put on the upgraded existing toll free road?
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you are right the concept similar NPE, but consider full elevated,

denai alam toll & mutiara damansara toll elevated, RRIM toll on ground


Below was the study introduction, of course change may apply, key was highlighted in red

3.2.1 Lane Requirements
The Expressway is generally a dual 3 lane carriageway of with 3.5m lane widths and
3m paved shoulder
with a design speed of 80 kph. In areas with constraints,
particularly in urban conditions and in areas of difficult terrain, a lower design speed
and double deck with cross sectional requirements may be considered but would be
subjected to the approval of the Government.

3.2.2 Interchanges
The project involves the construction of thirteen grade separated interchanges.
These interchanges are:
i) Puncak Perdana Interchange
ii) Alam Suria Interchange
iii) Denai Alam Interchange
iv) Kg. Melayu Subang Interchange
v) Galaksi Interchange
vi) Subang 2 Interchange
vii) Subang Airport Interchange
viii) RRIM Interchange
ix) Surian Interchange
x) Kenanga Interchange
xi) Mahogani Interchange
xii) Damansara Perdana Interchange
xiii) Penchala Interchange

3.2.3 Toll Plaza
There shall be three (3) main line toll plaza on the expressway which are located
before Denai Alam Interchange, RRIM, and Mutiara Damansara. Both manual and
electronic collection shall be adopted in these open toll system. Table 3.2.1 shows
the location of the toll plazas and the minimum lane requirement. The names of the
toll plaza will be determined and approved later by LLM. The numbers of toll lane
required for each toll plaza are based on the forecast traffic volume and the type of
toll collection system used.
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QUOTE(New Klang @ Dec 10 2013, 03:52 PM)
I'd imagine this highway will be similar to NPE.

The question is whether the existing road has adequate reserve land to accommodate an overhead parallel highway.

Toll booths to put on the upgraded existing toll free road?
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Enter into Denai Alam and exit to Subang Airport shouldn't need to pay toll right? tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(silentsunami @ Dec 10 2013, 04:39 PM)
Enter into Denai Alam and exit to Subang Airport shouldn't need to pay toll right? tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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sorry lo, have to paid from denai alam to airport
paid at RRIM toll then make a u turn (flyover) to go in airport road

from airport cannot go denai alam (current draft)

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QUOTE(elmond @ Dec 10 2013, 05:04 PM)
sorry lo, have to paid from denai alam to airport
paid at RRIM toll then make a u turn (flyover) to go in airport road

from airport cannot go denai alam (current draft)
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I a bit worry on the Damansara Perdana portion. I think the highway will kena my condo le. I want to go protest!
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QUOTE(bat11 @ Dec 10 2013, 07:06 PM)
I a bit worry on the Damansara Perdana portion. I think the highway will kena my condo le. I want to go protest!
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which condo you stay?
emerald, ritze perdana 2, metropolitan may impact only
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QUOTE(elmond @ Dec 10 2013, 07:31 PM)
which condo you stay?
emerald, ritze perdana 2, metropolitan may impact only
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Emerald lo... Damn it! doh.gif Protest ah!
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QUOTE(elmond @ Dec 10 2013, 04:08 PM)
you are right the concept similar NPE, but consider full elevated,

denai alam toll & mutiara damansara toll elevated, RRIM toll on ground
Below was the study introduction, of course change may apply, key was highlighted in red

3.2.1  Lane Requirements
The Expressway is generally a dual 3 lane carriageway of with 3.5m lane widths and
3m paved shoulder
with a design speed of 80 kph.  In areas with constraints,
particularly in urban conditions and in areas of difficult terrain, a lower design speed
and double deck with cross sectional requirements may be considered but would be
subjected to the approval of the Government.

3.2.2  Interchanges
The project involves the construction of thirteen  grade separated interchanges.
These interchanges are:
i)  Puncak Perdana Interchange
ii)  Alam Suria Interchange
iii)  Denai Alam Interchange
iv)  Kg. Melayu Subang Interchange
v)  Galaksi Interchange
vi)  Subang 2 Interchange
vii)  Subang Airport Interchange
viii)  RRIM Interchange
ix)  Surian Interchange
x)  Kenanga Interchange
xi)  Mahogani Interchange
xii)  Damansara Perdana Interchange
xiii)  Penchala Interchange

3.2.3  Toll Plaza
There shall be three (3) main line toll plaza on the expressway which are located
before Denai Alam Interchange, RRIM, and Mutiara Damansara. Both manual and
electronic collection shall be adopted in these open toll system. Table 3.2.1 shows
the location of the toll plazas and the minimum lane requirement. The names of the
toll plaza will be determined and approved later by LLM. The numbers of toll lane
required for each toll plaza are based on the forecast traffic volume and the type of
toll collection system used.
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great info!!... did i miss any link before this - where u get this?. really interested to know when and progress.


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QUOTE(bat11 @ Dec 10 2013, 09:17 PM)
Emerald lo... Damn it!  doh.gif Protest ah!
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How near is your building to the proposed highway?
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QUOTE(howiseveryone @ Dec 10 2013, 09:54 PM)
great info!!... did i miss any link before this - where u get this?. really interested to know when and progress.
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google this, you will get a pdf link for a study case.
"The Expressway is generally a dual 3 lane carriageway of with 3.5m lane widths and
3m paved shoulder with a design speed of 80 kph. In areas with constraints,
particularly in urban conditions and in areas of difficult terrain, a lower design speed
and double deck with cross sectional requirements may be considered but would be
subjected to the approval of the Government. "

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QUOTE(bat11 @ Dec 10 2013, 09:17 PM)
Emerald lo... Damn it!  doh.gif Protest ah!
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emerald facing the shop lot? then time to cry, it will facing the highway.

DP & MD peoples did protest last year. seems like protest also no use.
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Emerald lo... Damn it!  doh.gif Protest ah!
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if jalan pju 8/1 already 3 lanes then, put a elevated road above of it definitely meet the road design & local council requirement.

protect is your right, please do so.
i don't see any legal issue on the design that can stop the build besides the politician stuff.
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Expected completion date for this highway?
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I remember i went for the protest in the area only to hear someone speaker said this :" Here are luxury condos, We dont want highway here, it would be too close to unit for comfortableness. They can go low cost area to build we wont protest there" And there people clapping hands...

I was like, WTF you are talking about, what u dont want you would be happily pass on to others. I rolled my eyes and walked away from the selfish group. shakehead.gif
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I remember i went for the protest in the area only to hear someone speaker said this :" Here are luxury condos, We dont want highway here, it would be too close to unit for comfortableness. They can go low cost area to build we wont protest there" And there people clapping hands...

I was like, WTF you are talking about, what u dont want you would be happily pass on to others. I rolled my eyes and walked away from the selfish group.  shakehead.gif
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so at last is this a go or no go project?
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QUOTE(bb68 @ Dec 11 2013, 01:14 PM)
I remember i went for the protest in the area only to hear someone speaker said this :" Here are luxury condos, We dont want highway here, it would be too close to unit for comfortableness. They can go low cost area to build we wont protest there" And there people clapping hands...

I was like, WTF you are talking about, what u dont want you would be happily pass on to others. I rolled my eyes and walked away from the selfish group.  shakehead.gif
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When I read this, I don't feel sorry for the protestors anymore.


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I fully support this highway. This highway will make it easier for Damansara folks to go to Shah Alam without having to go through NKVE or Federal which nowadays are really congested. Similarly Shah Alam folks can go through this highway and bypass NKVE highway which is now in a mess every morning.
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this is how DASH highway will pass through DP area

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I fully support this highway. This highway will make it easier for Damansara folks to go to Shah Alam without having to go through NKVE or Federal which nowadays are really congested. Similarly Shah Alam folks can go through this highway and bypass NKVE highway which is now in a mess every morning.
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I disagree. From Shah Alam to Damansara, need to take exit at either Kampung Melayu Subang or Subang Airport. From Shah Alam to go to both exits already a congested area with few traffic lights stop. Totally not a good idea to use this route. I still prefer NKVE.

Also, if to take Subang Airport exit. Need to go through Batu 3 toll. Extra cost.

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QUOTE(bb68 @ Dec 11 2013, 01:14 PM)
I remember i went for the protest in the area only to hear someone speaker said this :" Here are luxury condos, We dont want highway here, it would be too close to unit for comfortableness. They can go low cost area to build we wont protest there" And there people clapping hands...

I was like, WTF you are talking about, what u dont want you would be happily pass on to others. I rolled my eyes and walked away from the selfish group.  shakehead.gif
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LOL. that person must be staying at Armanee Condo
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I live in DP. I went to 2 protests. Basically the fella who said "these are luxury condos bla bla" doesn't represent the majority.

There is definitely going to be impact and super congestion during the building of this highway especially as there's only one way in or out of DP.

Additionally the existing roads in DP are already pretty narrow to provide a comfortable carriageway. I remember YB Elizabeth Wong spoke about Sgor Govt not happy with this proposal as it mirrors the MRT route.

I suppose we'll find out soon. Money talks.
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QUOTE(eeki @ Dec 11 2013, 02:14 PM)
I disagree. From Shah Alam to Damansara, need to take exit at either Kampung Melayu Subang or Subang Airport. From Shah Alam to go to both exits already a congested area with few traffic lights stop. Totally not a good idea to use this route. I still prefer NKVE.

Also, if to take Subang Airport exit. Need to go through Batu 3 toll. Extra cost.

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i'm not sure which part of damansara, some more shah alam not only seksyen 1-13, still got utara shah alam (obviously this is target to utra shah alam)

surian interchange for kota damansara
kenanga interchange for dataran sunway
mutiara damansara interchange for the curve, ikea ......

extra notes: by extension the DASH can go setia alam, bukit raja & klang (it's not in the plan because NKVE already take place in that area)

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i'm not sure which part of damansara, some more shah alam not only seksyen 1-13, still got utara shah alam (obviously this is target to utra shah alam)

surian interchange for kota damansara
kenanga interchange for dataran sunway
mutiara damansara interchange for the curve, ikea ......

extra notes: by extension the DASH can go setia alam, bukit raja & klang (it's not in the plan because NKVE already take place in that area)
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Yup, I was referring to Shah Alam city center biggrin.gif
By looking at the plan, it definitely will benefit more on new shah alam area. Section U1 and above.
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QUOTE(eeki @ Dec 11 2013, 02:14 PM)
I disagree. From Shah Alam to Damansara, need to take exit at either Kampung Melayu Subang or Subang Airport. From Shah Alam to go to both exits already a congested area with few traffic lights stop. Totally not a good idea to use this route. I still prefer NKVE.

Also, if to take Subang Airport exit. Need to go through Batu 3 toll. Extra cost.

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So this highway does not link up with Guthrie highway?
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So this highway does not link up with Guthrie highway?
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that was something strange, the study only shows
from u10 can go into GCE but have to use bukit subang interchange
GCE from north can go direct go U10
GCE from north no direct link to DASH
from damansara no direct link to GCE
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QUOTE(elmond @ Dec 11 2013, 10:21 AM)
google this, you will get a pdf link for a study case.
"The Expressway is generally a dual 3 lane carriageway of with 3.5m lane widths and
3m paved shoulder with a design speed of 80 kph.  In areas with constraints,
particularly in urban conditions and in areas of difficult terrain, a lower design speed
and double deck with cross sectional requirements may be considered but would be
subjected to the approval of the Government. "
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Thanks!!!... i googled, got the link but it must be broken or site could be down. Browser unable to load the page/pdf file. sad.gif

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Thanks!!!... i googled, got the link but it must be broken or site could be down. Browser unable to load the page/pdf file.  sad.gif
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Thanks!!!... i googled, got the link but it must be broken or site could be down. Browser unable to load the page/pdf file.  sad.gif
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that the reason no sharing on the link in public.
i think they now realize the hole, so bad.
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this is how DASH highway will pass through DP area

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is this the latest route?. if yes, this is going to be right next to and on top of the terrace houses and shop offices. not to mention, a church building and maybe a temple will come up next to the police station.
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is this the latest route?. if yes, this is going to be right next to and on top of the terrace houses and shop offices. not to mention, a church building and maybe a temple will come up next to the police station.
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I think will kena my emerald la. Damn it! Why the road so weired wan... A curve like that... Stupid design!
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I think will kena my emerald la. Damn it! Why the road so weired wan... A curve like that... Stupid design!
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it follows the road which is curved. to go straight means to cut through shop offices which, can't happen. this looks like it will be next to police station and then frenscino and straight into perdana's main road.


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QUOTE(eeki @ Dec 11 2013, 02:07 PM)
this is how DASH highway will pass through DP area

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That 90 degree corner looks nasty.
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that the reason no sharing on the link in public.
i think they now realize the hole, so bad.
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u downloaded a copy?. can share aaa?.
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u downloaded a copy?. can share aaa?.
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unfortunately i view it online.
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is this the latest route?. if yes, this is going to be right next to and on top of the terrace houses and shop offices. not to mention, a church building and maybe a temple will come up next to the police station.
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this is the original proposed route.
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QUOTE(Lord_Ashe @ Dec 11 2013, 02:19 PM)
I live in DP. I went to 2 protests. Basically the fella who said "these are luxury condos bla bla" doesn't represent the majority.

There is definitely going to be impact and super congestion during the building of this highway especially as there's only one way in or out of DP.

Additionally the existing roads in DP are already pretty narrow to provide a comfortable carriageway. I remember YB Elizabeth Wong spoke about Sgor Govt not happy with this proposal as it mirrors the MRT route.

I suppose we'll find out soon. Money talks.
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I am more than happy to have it. Congestion during construction is expected but not at all a point to object, it is temporary. without highway, people still come and go because they have to. With alternatives it surely help those who long suffer trapping in LDP. Dont see a point to protest. cool2.gif
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QUOTE(bb68 @ Dec 12 2013, 11:24 AM)
I am more than happy to have it. Congestion during construction is expected but not at all a point to object, it is temporary. without highway, people still come and go because they have to. With alternatives it surely help those who long suffer trapping in LDP. Dont see a point to protest.  cool2.gif
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how do you think DASH can help LDP?

i think KIDEX suppose be alternative route for LDP not DASH
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how do you think DASH can help LDP?

i think KIDEX suppose be alternative route for LDP not DASH
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To get out from DP, you either go Sprint (always smooth) or LDP (Jam) or The Curve (Jam). Adding another exit will surely help to lighten.
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To get out from DP, you either go Sprint (always smooth) or LDP (Jam) or The Curve (Jam). Adding another exit will surely help to lighten.
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do you means exit to NKVE?
but the initial plan was flyover u-turn at persiaran surian with 1 DASH toll.
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Just talked to my friend- contractor that involve soil investigation for DASH highway. Confirm the highway will start from Mutiara Damansara to Shah Alam. (project already started last month)
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QUOTE(zyde @ Dec 24 2013, 03:53 PM)
Just talked to my friend- contractor that involve soil investigation for DASH highway. Confirm the highway will start from Mutiara Damansara to Shah Alam. (project already started last month)
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Which part of Mutiara Damansara? How about Damansara Perdana? Thanks for the info.
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Which part of Mutiara Damansara? How about Damansara Perdana? Thanks for the info.
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if project on, elevated highway will cut through whole road of damansara perdana.
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Just talked to my friend- contractor that involve soil investigation for DASH highway. Confirm the highway will start from Mutiara Damansara to Shah Alam. (project already started last month)
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do u know which part started?.
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Just talked to my friend- contractor that involve soil investigation for DASH highway. Confirm the highway will start from Mutiara Damansara to Shah Alam. (project already started last month)
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Any weblink to get this official info?
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do u know which part started?.
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Mutiara Damansara.

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do u know which part started?.
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lol, i need to ask him again. He only said Mutiara Damansara.
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if project on, elevated highway will cut through whole road of damansara perdana.
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is that road even big enough to fit a highway?
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flyover lor. just like AKLeh or NPE or Kidex.
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lol, i need to ask him again. He only said Mutiara Damansara.
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strange. why would they start on the most contentious area first. anyhow, the only active construction work I can see there is for MRT.
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strange. why would they start on the most contentious area first. anyhow, the only active construction work I can see there is for MRT.
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because the most contentious area was the main point of this highway, connection from west (shah alam) to east (kuala lumpur)
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kidex also no support
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Saw a few signs saying something like "Pembinaan Dihadapan 500m DASH", right after Kota Damansara exit at NKVE.

Construction has started?
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Saw a few signs saying something like "Pembinaan Dihadapan 500m DASH", right after Kota Damansara exit at NKVE.

Construction has started?
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confirm they started already...already digging here and there..at first thought was MRT, but saw the DASH sign, confirmed they are building it already...
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According to today's Star newspaper, this project is not approved yet.
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So they can build more houses along it and create higher traffic, leading to the same problems that they are trying to solve in the first place. #thirdworldproblems
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QUOTE(New Klang @ May 16 2014, 01:50 PM)
According to today's Star newspaper, this project is not approved yet.
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which line said not approve? under fire is another story.

http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Community/2...L-Some-planned/

Damansara-Shah Alam Expressway (Dash)

One of two recently-signed concession agreements by Malaysia’s second-largest highway concessionaire Prolintas, the Damansara-Shah Alam Expressway (Dash) is estimated to cost RM4.18bil.

The planned highway begins from Puncak Perdana U10 off Jalan Batu Arang and terminates at the Penchala Link with access to both the Sprint and LDP.

Proposed interchanges include Kampung Melayu Subang, Jalan Galaksi (Sungai Buloh), Subang Skypark, Persiaran Surian, Mutiara Damansara.

However, this expressway has also come under fire with residents from the Damansara Perdana/Mutiara Damansara area protesting its proximity to their homes.
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We need this highway to alleviate the current heavy traffic at NKVE. All heavy duty trucks are using PLUS NKVE highway at the moment and road condition nowadays are very bad. We seriously need another way for people from Damansara to come to Subang / Shah Alam side and vice versa. Please support this project. Shah Alam dont have good public transport at the moment except for KTM.
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So if the construction work already started, can anybody shows the exact route it go through?
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So if the construction work already started, can anybody shows the exact route it go through?
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QUOTE(jepakazoid_82 @ May 16 2014, 02:41 PM)
We need this highway to alleviate the current heavy traffic at NKVE. All heavy duty trucks are using PLUS NKVE highway at the moment and road condition nowadays are very bad. We seriously need another way for people from Damansara to come to Subang / Shah Alam side and vice versa. Please support this project. Shah Alam dont have good public transport at the moment except for KTM.
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I agree with your sentiment but trucks will also use this road. Then developers will itchy create new condos et al along it without bothering about traffic load. All in all this isnt a solution.
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QUOTE(Wiredx @ May 16 2014, 03:05 PM)
I agree with your sentiment but trucks will also use this road. Then developers will itchy create new condos et al along it without bothering about traffic load. All in all this isnt a solution.
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i don't see any empty land can be developed along this highway except kwasa land, elmina & shah alam u10.
maybe you can enlight us the next hot spot that get benefit from this highway.


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QUOTE(elmond @ May 16 2014, 03:08 PM)
i don't see any empty land can be developed along this highway except kwasa land, elmina & shah alam u10.
maybe you can enlight us  the next hot spot that get benefit from this highway.
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You already have some of the answers there
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You already have some of the answers there
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How about Hillpark Shah Alam next to Bandar Saujana Utama, Puncak Alam,will it benefit?????
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Where are proposed interchange?
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How about Hillpark Shah Alam next to Bandar Saujana Utama, Puncak Alam,will it benefit?????
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Saujana utama to u10 (dash start), sure benefit la.
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How about Hillpark Shah Alam next to Bandar Saujana Utama, Puncak Alam,will it benefit?????
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u need to use normal road for about 10km from hillpark to u10.

btw .. now no more called as hillpark shah alam. brows.gif
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Was wandering whether the alignment is finalize. Hopefully it will not cut thru damansara perdana.
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I wonder how are the going to build the elevated highway to cut thru Dms Perdana...
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I wonder how are the going to build the elevated highway to cut thru Dms Perdana...
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I dontl to understand. The road in between Msq and ritz 2 is so narrow. How can they just build elevated highway there. Malaysia memang boleh...
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foreseen SETIA ALAM side property ie from SP SETIA and SIMEDARBY going to fly...can imagine this highway directly link to penchala link which reach month kiara / istana area in 5min...

Mont kiara reseident going to have nightmare..!
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QUOTE(gsw8895 @ May 20 2014, 10:37 AM)
foreseen SETIA ALAM side property ie from SP SETIA and SIMEDARBY going to fly...can imagine this highway directly link to penchala link which reach month kiara / istana area in 5min...

Mont kiara reseident going to have nightmare..!
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DASH designed for 80 km/h, don't expect speedy.
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I dontl to understand. The road in between Msq and ritz 2 is so narrow. How can they just build elevated highway there. Malaysia memang boleh...
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I hope instead of initial planning to make it cut through MSQ & Ritz, they re-aligned it to passby office building near Mercedes centre mutiara damansara. The road still connected to Penchala Link anyway.
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Anybody can confirmed the stretch at the Damansara Perdana because that's will be very dangerous if cut through between MSQ and Ritz.
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Was wandering whether the alignment is finalize. Hopefully it will not cut thru damansara perdana.
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I already can see some soil testing activity done infront of Emerald condo and Metropolitan condo
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Yeah i saw that too but i didnt realize it was soil testing. I really suprise that they can just built an elevated highway cutting such narrow space in btw 2 high dense condo... why cant they cut thru mutiara instead?
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DASH designed for 80 km/h, don't expect speedy.
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Malaysia Boleh will be 180km/h.
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This is anti DASH.
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Why does anyone wanted to go against a modernization and development for all public is beyond me..this is pure selfishness.
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Why does anyone wanted to go against a modernization and development for all public is beyond me..this is pure selfishness.
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Building more road is not modernization. It proven it is backwardzation as it is not sustainable and the road is cash cow for cronie PNB.

building mass transport system replacing road is modernization. That according hk japan european . Ok?
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Why does anyone wanted to go against a modernization and development for all public is beyond me..this is pure selfishness.
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We are not against modernization but thorough study must be conducted before embarking on such project taking into account of public interest. You cannot just build a highway cutting thru anywhere you want. There are many alternative to align elsewhere yet they choose to cut thru high density neighbourhood. Why? Coz is all abt dollar and cents bcoz this is the shortest route. Shud instead focus to build better public transport not highway.
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Building more road is not modernization. It proven it is backwardzation as it is not sustainable and the road is cash cow for cronie PNB.

building mass transport system replacing road is modernization. That according hk japan european . Ok?
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I will vote u for next general election. Although building highway is less effective but it still cut short the travel time. Beside that, out city planning not that good, even u place the station at those taman but not many will benefited, unless all the station surrounding by those apartment / condo, not the terrace houses.
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I will vote u for next general election. Although building highway is less effective but it still cut short the travel time. Beside that, out city planning not that good, even u place the station at those taman but not many will benefited, unless all the station surrounding by those apartment / condo, not the terrace houses.
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That why i ask you to go europe hk japan see. How bus system intergrate with train station.

dont just sit infront pc during weenked and die at 80's age. Go other country and copy thier great ideas. Dont just listen to our govt only looking at shorten gain with long term pain.
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QUOTE(tikaram @ Jun 7 2014, 12:33 PM)
That why i ask you to go europe hk japan see. How bus system intergrate with train station.

dont just sit infront pc during weenked and die at 80's age. Go other country and copy thier great ideas.  Dont just listen to our govt only looking at shorten gain with long term pain.
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Hahaha..in this forum, only you ever travel oversea..no one else..

Excellent access road is good to spur the economy.public transport is another thing..

By the way, I owned a property in perdana emerald. Be level headed and not emotional..then u will come to ur sense..good bye

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I agree with you!
I remembered I attended the DASH protest in Damansara Perdana only to hear one of the leader speaking in loud speaker that, DASH should be cutting through the low cost flat rather than our high-end condo, and the rest just cheered and applauded. How disgusting, so I left group immediately doh.gif
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I agree with you!
I remembered I attended the DASH protest in Damansara Perdana only to hear one of the leader speaking in loud speaker that, DASH should be cutting through the low cost flat rather than our high-end condo, and the rest just cheered and applauded. How disgusting, so I left group immediately  doh.gif
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Having said that we need alternative highway, I do agree with some that it should be aligned to mutiara damansara. But the facts is, mutiara damansara is free hold land, private land even the road shoulder island you can see a plate stating private property. In the other hand, damansara perdana is lease hold land. knowing this it is not difficult to understand that DASH is designed to cut through a less costly areas...
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QUOTE(feezar25 @ Jun 7 2014, 01:53 PM)
Hahaha..in this forum, only you ever travel oversea..no one else..

Excellent access road is good to spur the economy.public transport is another thing..

By the way, I owned a property in perdana emerald. Be level headed and not emotional..then u will come to ur sense..good bye
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I pity you. Despitd u have traveled to hk japan europe. U still saying " station at those taman but not many will benefited, unless all the station surrounding by those apartment / condo, not the terrace houses"

It is waste of money you go there and not seeing the big picture/ideas.
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QUOTE(tikaram @ Jun 7 2014, 01:42 PM)
I pity you. Despitd u have traveled to hk japan europe. U still saying " station at those taman but not many will benefited, unless all the station surrounding by those apartment / condo, not the terrace houses"

It is waste of money you go there and not seeing the big picture/ideas.
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Check again who said that..thank u..

For sure u said this "dont just sit infront pc during weenked and die at 80's age."...yeah thats u..hikhik..bye
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Hot on the heels of Kidex, new group opposes another highway project

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DASH, an elevated expressway which will stretch 20.1km, will commence at the Puncak Perdana U10 Shah Alam intersection and serve as a link for Puncak Perdana, Alam Suria, Denai Alam, Kampung Melayu Subang, Jalan Sungai Buloh, RRIM, Kota Damansara, Damansara Perdana and Mutiara Damansara. — Pic credit www.1propertyinfo.com

KUALA LUMPUR, June 8:

The Selangor government is now facing opposition to another highway project — the Damansara-Shah Alam Elevated Expressway (DASH) project.

A group, which calls itself the “Say No To Dash” (SNTD) movement, is modelled after the “Say No To Kidex” group, which is protesting against the Kinrara-Damansara Expressway (Kidex).

The SNTD group has been revived after a two-year hiatus, after residents in Mutiara Damansara and Damansara Perdana found out that DASH — which they assumed had been halted — had resumed in their backyard.

Prolintas, the highway concessionaire for DASH, said the elevated expressway will stretch 20.1 km and will commence at the Puncak Perdana U10 Shah Alam intersection and serve as a link for Puncak Perdana, Alam Suria, Denai Alam, Kampung Melayu Subang, Jalan Sungai Buloh, RRIM, Kota Damansara, Damansara Perdana and Mutiara Damansara.

It will end at the Penchala interchange, linking road users to the LDP (Lebuhraya Damansara-Puchong) and SPRINT highways.

“The proposed expressway is expected to support rapid development covering U10 Shah Alam, Subang, Kota Damansara and Damansara areas,” according to the Prolintas’ website.

A meeting held today saw a small group of about 50 residents coming together to find out more about the project.

Two years ago, Damansara Perdana, Mutiara Damansara and Desa Temuan residents staged a protest against the proposed construction of DASH in front of the Damansara Perdana police station.

“Two years ago, about 1,000 residents had taken to the streets in dissent over the expressway.

“After much furore and drama, work on the project had seemingly slowed down,” former Petaling Jaya (PJ) city councillor Mak Khuin Weng told The Rakyat Post when contacted today.

Mak said, in the last two weeks, the residents felt something was amiss after seeing soil sampling stations being put up in the area.

“After approaching contractors at the stations, they found out that the project had not ended after all as the soil sampling was being carried out for the DASH project,” Mak, who is also a member of the Say No To Kidex movement, added.

“I am here to guide them as to how they can now go about to ensure their dissatisfaction is heard.”

The DASH project is being developed by Projek Lintasan Kota Sdn Bhd (Prolintas), the country’s second biggest highway concessionaire under Permodalan Nasional Bhd (PNB).

Construction and land acquisition costs for DASH is estimated to be at a staggering RM4.18 billion.

Prolintas had also signed the concession agreement for another highway project, the Sungai Besi-Ulu Klang Elevated Expressway (SUKE), worth at an estimated RM11.5 billion.

The agreements for both DASH and SUKE were inked last year.

Works Minister Datuk Fadillah Yusof said that both DASH and SUKE were awarded to Prolintas under the build-operate-transfer concept.

http://www.therakyatpost.com/news/2014/06/...ighway-project/

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After Kidex, residents plan to throw spanner in Dash highway’s works - See more at: http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia...h.4dH7wbzM.dpuf

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Joanne Ting speaks at a residents’ meeting against DASH highway at Damansara Perdana. — Picture by Choo Choy May



PETALING JAYA, June 8 — Riding on the success of the anti-Kidex highway movement, residents in Damansara Perdana are now putting up a fight against another proposed highway, which is expected to rip through the area populated by high-rise buildings.

The group has laid dormant for over two years until recently, when its members realised that work on the Damansara-Shah Alam Elevated Expressway (Dash) has started quietly.

“We realised that they have started their soil test... That’s how we know the project is on track,” Joanne Ting, a representative of the Say No To Dash (SNTD) group, told The Malay Mail Online.

The group claimed that the developer, Prolintas Bhd, has tried to conceal that the soil test was for the Dash project and that it only found out after asking the workers.

As a first step towards its revival, the group held a meeting at the Perdana Emerald condominium here today, which saw the attendance of over 50 residents from neighbouring areas.




A guest speaker at the meeting was Mak Khuin Weng, who is part of the resistance against the Kinrara-Damansara Expressway (Kidex), which has received media spotlight recently.

“One thing I’ve found out was that politicians of both sides were equally dishonest,” Mak said in relating his experience dealing with the both Barisan Nasional (BN) and Pakatan Rakyat (PR) federal and state governments.

The group said it met Elizabeth Wong about two weeks ago, but the PKR assemblyman offered little reassurance apart from saying that any approval needs to go through the state government first.

According to Prolintas, Dash will be a 20.1 km, 3-lane, dual carriageway expressway starting from Puncak Perdana in Shah Alam to the Penchala interchange.

With 12 interchanges, the RM11.5 billion expressway plans to link drivers to Lebuhraya Damansara Puchong and Sprint highways, which residents claimed are already congested during peak hours.

Dash will serve motorists from Puncak Perdana, Alam Suria, Denai Alam, Kampung Melayu Subang, Jalan Sungai Buloh, the Rubber Research Institute Malaysia, Kota Damansara, Damansara Perdana and Mutiara Damansara, Prolintas said.

SNTD and the residents were concerned that in addition to traffic congestion, construction in the highly-populated area will be detrimental to their safety, health and the environment.

http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia...-highways-works



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I am not against this project. I just think that DASH should terminate at PLUS near Sg. Buloh R&R.
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I am not against this project. I just think that DASH should terminate at PLUS near Sg. Buloh R&R.
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bukit lanjan already jam spot, if dash end there, situation become more red.
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bukit lanjan already jam spot, if dash end there, situation become more red.
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Govt cannot just approve so much development without considering traffic limitations.

I feel sorry for the Denai Alam/Elmina owners having to pay high premium for SD properties but SD should do something positive like what Ecoworld/SP Setia have been doing.

Elmina GDV of 26 billion will be overvalued if no proper connection.
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Hoping to avert another highway storm, PKR reps to meet Dash developer By Zurairi AR June 12, 2014 Latest Update: June 13, 2014 06:09 am - See more at: http://m.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/a...h.ArEOBhly.dpuf

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DASH will be a 20.1km, three-lane, dual carriageway expressway starting from Puncak Perdana in Shah Alam to the Penchala interchange. With 12 interchanges, the RM11.5 billion expressway plans to link drivers to Lebuhraya Damansara-Puchong (LDP) and the Sprint highways, which residents claimed are already congested during peak hours.


KUALA LUMPUR, June 12 — Two PKR lawmakers will meet developers of the Damansara-Shah Alam Elevated Expressway (Dash) this month in a bid to revise the controversial project, which is expected to carve its way through the densely populated Damansara Perdana area. Bukit Lanjan assemblyman Elizabeth Wong told The Malay Mail Online that she, along with Subang MP R. Sivarasa, will meet Permodalan Nasional Bhd (PNB), which owns the developer of the expressway, Prolintas Bhd, following complaints from residents who want the project cancelled. “Sivarasa and I will reopen discussions with PNB with this latest news,” Wong said through text message, adding that the meeting will take place before the Muslim fasting month of Ramadan. “Our position remains the same as in 2012, that is for the proposed highway not to go through housing areas of Mutiara Damansara and Damansara Perdana.” - See more at: http://m.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/a...h.ArEOBhly.dpuf
PNB has not issued updates on the project since last year but residents have spotted soil boring rigs running tests in the area for two weeks, Wong said.

DASH will be a 20.1 km, three-lane, dual carriageway expressway starting from Puncak Perdana in Shah Alam to the Penchala interchange.

With 12 interchanges, the RM11.5 billion expressway plans to link drivers to Lebuhraya Damansara-Puchong (LDP) and the Sprint highways, which residents claimed are already congested during peak hours.

Residents are worried that in addition to traffic congestion, construction in the highly-populated area will be detrimental to safety, health and the environment.

On Sunday, residents banded together to revived the Say-No-to-Dash movement, which has been dormant for two years, hoping to replicate the success of the ongoing resistance against the Kinrara-Damansara Expressway (Kidex).

“We are positive PNB will be open to proposals and suggestions from residents. They had changed the alignment earlier to avoid going through one area of Mutiara Damansara but unfortunately their proposal impacted another section,” said Wong.

While rumours have credited developer Boustead Holdings Bhd for the expressway avoiding Mutiara Damansara, Wong claimed it was public feedback that led to the change.

“So if they can amend their plan earlier, we are positive they will continue to get more feedback and suggestions from the residents around the affected areas,” Wong added.

Wong promised to continue meeting residents to assuage their fears.
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What's the status of construction now after all the soil testing done few months back?
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NEWS PUBLISHED: 44 mins ago

Say No to Dash group will meet Selangor MB next month
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Residents of Perdana Emerald Condominium holding placards opposing the Dash highway, with the Say No to Dash group spokesperson Michelle Wong (front, left) saying the group was not against the whole project but just the fact that it was cutting through their neighborhood. — TRP pic by Azrol Ali

PETALING JAYA, Nov 19, 2014:
The “Say No to Dash” group will meet the Selangor MB next month to discuss the agreement and the alignment of the 20.1km, 3-lane, Damansara-Shah Alam Elevated Expressway (Dash) that would cut through Damansara Perdana.

Say No to Dash spokesperson Michelle Wong said the group was not against the whole project but just the fact that it was cutting through their neighborhood.

“The highway will be right in front of our home windows,” she said during a press conference held in Perdana Emerald Condominium here.

She said the group had also requested to meet with the Works Minister regarding this matter.
Wong said the Say no to Dash group had made a request under the Freedom of Information Enactment to obtain meeting minutes from the Selangor Economic Action Council (MTES) on the government’s approval of the highway.

“We want to know through the minutes, whereby Dash was given a conditional approval, because we would like to know exactly what sort of approval was given.

“The Selangor government has until Nov 22 to comply to this request as they are legally obligated to answer our queries on whether they will release these documents or not.
“We do not know if we can take what the PR state government says for face value as we still see it proceeding with the matter despite raising it several times with them.”
She said the group also has no information about the project or the status of it because of the lack of public consultation.
“Public consultation should have been done before approving this project, as we are directly affected by the project. We want to know how was it approved.”
She said there are 12,000 homes and 24,000 residents that have endorsed the “Say No to Dash” stance so far.
The expressway, estimated to cost RM11.5 billion, will link road users to Lebuhraya Damansara-Puchong (LDP) and Sprint Highway and will connect these areas: Jalan Sungai Buloh, Puncak Perdana, Alam Suria, Denai Alam, Kampung Melayu Subang, the Rubber Research Institute Malaysia, Kota Damansara, Damansara Perdana and Mutiara damansara.



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Residents claim Dash highway will reduce their quality of life
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Business owner Ivy Lim (right) says she feels 'penalised' by the conditional approval of the Damansara-Shah Alam Elevated Expressway. — TRP pic by Azrol Ali
PETALING JAYA, Nov 19, 2014:
Residents in Damansara Perdana attended the “Say No to Dash” meeting with optimism that the state government will hear their concerns regarding the construction of the 20.1 km, 3-lane, Damansara-Shah Alam Elevated Expressway (Dash) that would cut through their neighborhood.
Ivy Lim, 60, a business owner said she felt “penalised” by the apparent conditional approval of the expressway.
She said it was hard to fathom how it could have been approved with the highway cutting through this area when it was already so congested.
“It takes about 30 minutes just to get to the Curve during peak hours these days.
“Now they want to divert more traffic here with the approval of this expressway?
“There are so many condominiums and other buildings being built here as we speak,” she told The Rakyat Post after the Say No to Dash press conference held in Perdana Emerald Condominium here.

She said the construction would totally restrict pedestrians from having any space to walk about.
“When I moved here 7 years ago, I used to walk with my dog around this area, now there’s just no space and the condition is not safe to walk around anymore.”
She said she was confused as to how they were going to build the highway when roads were already so narrow and congested.
“Where is the quality of life? It used to be eco-friendly and now there’s no more greenery here in the area,” Lim said, adding that it was her hope that the decision made by the state government would benefit instead of burdening the people.
Joanne Ting, 44, business owner said the PJU 8/1 main road was the only access road the residents had and it would be directly affected by the construction of the highway.
“How can a highway come through here when we have high-rise buildings on both sides of the road. We have more than 20 condominiums here.”
She claimed that the highway would severely affect the quality of life for residents here.
“I don’t think that it’s a good idea as it would affect our health.
“There are young families here and those who bought into this place for retirement. We have a wide range of residents here who will be affected by the project.”
She said what really worried her was the traffic congestion in the future, if the project was carried out.
“We rather have trees than more concrete buildings, now there’s even an increase in rat population here because of the mass construction and dirty roads.”
Some 12,000 homes and 24,000 residents have already endorsed the Say No to Dash stance so far.
The expressway, estimated to cost RM11.5 billion, will link road users to Lebuhraya Damansara Puchong and Sprint Highway and will connect these areas: Jalan Sungai Buloh, Puncak Perdana, Alam Suria, Denai Alam, Kampung Melayu Subang, the Rubber Research Institute Malaysia, Kota Damansara, Damansara Perdana and Mutiara Damansara.


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Yes to DASH, too ...

benefits to others ..

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DASH is benefit to everyone it should continue.
YES DASH!!!
we should give full support to out gov when implementing projek pembangunan which benefit to all.

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i see a whole bunch of selfish people. Why didnt they say no to LDP ?
I would see what quality of life they have when there isnt LDP.

These people are only thinking for their own self. Welcome to Petaling Jaya , land of the selfish people.
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Read the article, just because she want greenly and bring her dog walk around than just ignore the entire community pembangunan project.
How to construct a high in a congested area?? stupid question, it is just how we construct MRT in KL city town. I believe it is much much simple and easy comparing MRT. Selffish org kaya ini.....
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NEWS  PUBLISHED: 14 mins ago
Residents claim Dash highway will reduce their quality of life
BY: MICHAEL MURTY
Business owner Ivy Lim (right) says she feels 'penalised' by the conditional approval of the Damansara-Shah Alam Elevated Expressway. — TRP pic by Azrol Ali
PETALING JAYA, Nov 19, 2014:
Residents in Damansara Perdana attended the “Say No to Dash” meeting with optimism that the state government will hear their concerns regarding the construction of the 20.1 km, 3-lane, Damansara-Shah Alam Elevated Expressway (Dash) that would cut through their neighborhood.
Ivy Lim, 60, a business owner said she felt “penalised” by the apparent conditional approval of the expressway.
She said it was hard to fathom how it could have been approved with the highway cutting through this area when it was already so congested.
“It takes about 30 minutes just to get to the Curve during peak hours these days.
“Now they want to divert more traffic here with the approval of this expressway?
“There are so many condominiums and other buildings being built here as we speak,” she told The Rakyat Post after the Say No to Dash press conference held in Perdana Emerald Condominium here.

She said the construction would totally restrict pedestrians from having any space to walk about.
“When I moved here 7 years ago, I used to walk with my dog around this area, now there’s just no space and the condition is not safe to walk around anymore.”
She said she was confused as to how they were going to build the highway when roads were already so narrow and congested.
“Where is the quality of life? It used to be eco-friendly and now there’s no more greenery here in the area,” Lim said, adding that it was her hope that the decision made by the state government would benefit instead of burdening the people.
Joanne Ting, 44, business owner said the PJU 8/1 main road was the only access road the residents had and it would be directly affected by the construction of the highway.
“How can a highway come through here when we have high-rise buildings on both sides of the road. We have more than 20 condominiums here.”
She claimed that the highway would severely affect the quality of life for residents here.
“I don’t think that it’s a good idea as it would affect our health.
“There are young families here and those who bought into this place for retirement. We have a wide range of residents here who will be affected by the project.”
She said what really worried her was the traffic congestion in the future, if the project was carried out.
“We rather have trees than more concrete buildings, now there’s even an increase in rat population here because of the mass construction and dirty roads.”
Some 12,000 homes and 24,000 residents have already endorsed the Say No to Dash stance so far.
The expressway, estimated to cost RM11.5 billion, will link road users to Lebuhraya Damansara Puchong and Sprint Highway and will connect these areas: Jalan Sungai Buloh, Puncak Perdana, Alam Suria, Denai Alam, Kampung Melayu Subang, the Rubber Research Institute Malaysia, Kota Damansara, Damansara Perdana and Mutiara Damansara.
Read more: http://www.therakyatpost.com/news/2014/11/.../#ixzz3JWgXsLiC
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then u dont use LDP and MEX laaa..reduced others quality of life
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Selffish org kaya ini.....
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i like to correct that statement. It is not selfish orang kaya , but more like Selfish individuals. Whether rich or poor , it's the same. I have been living in Petaling Jaya for 35 years of my life , and i can tell you that majority of the people living there are self centered.

Again if you got rob there , no one will come to your aid. It's a fact. This is more prevalent in places like Bandar Utama & etc.
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Actually if people willing to pay toll, i think they more willing to pay MRT ticket. So build more MRT line to solve the problem. Not highway which is cause more jam.

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QUOTE(PACINO @ Nov 20 2014, 10:08 AM)
i like to correct that statement. It is not selfish orang kaya , but more like Selfish individuals. Whether rich or poor , it's the same. I have been living in Petaling Jaya for 35 years of my life , and i can tell you that majority of the people living there are self centered.

Again if you got rob there , no one will come to your aid. It's a fact. This is more prevalent in places like Bandar Utama & etc.
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you can read that she state she is not anti DASH but the alignment which passes in front of the condo. and it is Freaking close. If govt build a elevated hi way infront of your condo or house you'd complain too. icon_rolleyes.gif


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DASH is benefit to everyone it should continue.
YES DASH!!!
we should give full support to out gov when implementing projek pembangunan which benefit to all.
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QUOTE(corleone74 @ Nov 20 2014, 10:26 AM)
you can read that she state she is not anti DASH but the alignment which passes in front of the condo. and it is Freaking close. If govt build a elevated hi way infront of your condo or house you'd complain too.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Than don use title no to dash lol.
should ask how to improve the architecture which more Eco friendly to nearby existing building.
Same approach, is it duke highway alignment passing through high density residential area? Why they don say no duke? is because it bring benefit to all.
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QUOTE(PACINO @ Nov 20 2014, 10:08 AM)
i like to correct that statement. It is not selfish orang kaya , but more like Selfish individuals. Whether rich or poor , it's the same. I have been living in Petaling Jaya for 35 years of my life , and i can tell you that majority of the people living there are self centered.

Again if you got rob there , no one will come to your aid. It's a fact. This is more prevalent in places like Bandar Utama & etc.
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Isn't it the same almost everywhere in Klang Valley and you included my friend. Would you come to one's aid if someone is robbed? Shussh...why did I even ask? I know the answer already even if you are going to say 'yes' it is still a 'no' in real life. So stop your nonsensical stereotyping.
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QUOTE(corleone74 @ Nov 20 2014, 11:26 AM)
you can read that she state she is not anti DASH but the alignment which passes in front of the condo. and it is Freaking close. If govt build a elevated hi way infront of your condo or house you'd complain too.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Well i lived just next to MRR2 before it was built.
When the gov announced to built the highway, we were so pleased because we have easier access to south and north.
And the highway is freaking close to our houses too.
But that didnt matter to us.
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Than don use title no to dash lol.
should ask how to improve the architecture which more Eco friendly to nearby existing building.
Same approach, is it duke highway alignment passing through high density residential area? Why they don say no duke? is because it bring benefit to all.
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Unlike you my friend, we did not object to the objections of the residents affected there. So don't play the self-righteous card here.
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Isn't it the same almost everywhere in Klang Valley and you included my friend. Would you come to one's aid if someone is robbed? Shussh...why did I even ask? I know the answer already even if you are going to say 'yes' it is still a 'no' in real life. So stop your nonsensical stereotyping.
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QUOTE(giovanni @ Nov 20 2014, 10:40 AM)
Unlike you my friend, we did not object to the objections of the residents affected there. So don't play the self-righteous card here.
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my houses just beside DASH & KIDEX, i said yes because it serve better life to others.


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same too u
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my houses just beside DASH & KIDEX, i said yes because it serve better life to others.
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Wah kaya la u.
Do the highways decrease ur house value?

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my houses just beside DASH & KIDEX, i said yes because it serve better life to others.
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Keyboard warriors can say my house is in Beverly Hills just beside Will Smith's
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my houses just beside DASH & KIDEX, i said yes because it serve better life to others.
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DASH is benefit to everyone it should continue.
YES DASH!!!
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should build more BRT n LRT not high way. PJ and KL road contruct never stop coz super jam and dusty
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it was you matter to said something bad, but don't put shit to my head.
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ok, yes to dash, but end at Sungai Buloh.

i dont have house along the line, but build highway to connect penchala link is make the whole area worse.
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QUOTE(godlikexioo @ Nov 20 2014, 10:37 AM)
Than don use title no to dash lol.
should ask how to improve the architecture which more Eco friendly to nearby existing building.
Same approach, is it duke highway alignment passing through high density residential area? Why they don say no duke? is because it bring benefit to all.
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well, she could put - "NO TO DASH ALIGNMENT THROUGH AND ABOVE JLN PJU8/1 AND PASSING IN FRONT OF XXX and YYY CONDO BUT WE SUPPORT DASH THROUGH UNPOPULATED AREA BECAUSE WE ARE REALLY NICE PEOPLE AND NOT SELFISH AT ALL" but it won't fit into the banner brows.gif brows.gif correction it bring benefit to all except those whose window is facing the highway directly less than 30 m away. the point is there are a number of people who are affected who have signed the petition.


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ok, yes to dash, but end at Sungai Buloh.

i dont have house along the line, but build highway to connect penchala link is make the whole area worse.
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Isn't it the same almost everywhere in Klang Valley and you included my friend. Would you come to one's aid if someone is robbed? Shussh...why did I even ask? I know the answer already even if you are going to say 'yes' it is still a 'no' in real life. So stop your nonsensical stereotyping.
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i begged to differ. I only stated this example , as i have previous experience on it at Bandar Utama. i was living there many years ago , when i was much younger , and an old lady got kidnapped in front of my house. Not knowing what is happening , i tried to get out of my house with a steering lock as protection to try and lock the old lady house gate , to see what is happening.

Guess what , my entire family pull me back. While this is happening , i saw my entire neighbour , made out of people in the mid 30's and mid 40's , family people hiding in the house grill watching this event for 2-3 minutes till the lady got overpowered and being kidnapped.

Next came the entire neighbours , out in the streets after the event , b****ing about it... When my sister and me suggested that we saw a crime and let's make a police report .... guess what - all of them run in the house.
We made a police report , and came a police patrol car picking us up to make a report.

And guess what - right when me and my sister enter the patrol car and begin to move , i see in the rear mirror the neighbours begin to come out again and b**** in the middle of the street.

Luckily end of the day , the old lady was okay. Police found her at Tugu negara. I came back and lambasted to them , on their selfishness. Guess what they told me - Young man , you do not have kids , you don't understand. They might have knifes.....Told me that next time i will understand...

My reply to them - let's hope that your mother will never have to go thru the same ordeal.

Fast forward 18 years later , i am a married man - with kids. Now guess what , i will still do the same and lock the gate. So i really don't understand the selfishness. Not helping is one thing , to b**** about it , while not willing to report police is the highlight of it.

So if any of you was living at BU 1 , in the same street as me about 18 years back , shame on you if you're the one my story talks about.

p/s - even my family is the same. What ya think! ?

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QUOTE(PACINO @ Nov 20 2014, 03:03 PM)
i begged to differ. I only stated this example , as i have previous experience on it at Bandar Utama. i was living there many years ago , when i was much younger , and an old lady got kidnapped in front of my house. Not knowing what is happening , i tried to get out of my house with a steering lock as protection to try and lock the old lady house gate , to see what is happening.

Guess what , my entire family pull me back. While this is happening , i saw my entire neighbour , made out of people in the mid 30's and mid 40's , family people hiding in the house grill watching this event for 2-3 minutes till the lady got overpowered and being kidnapped.

Next came the entire neighbours , out in the streets after the event , b****ing about it... When my sister and me suggested that we saw a crime and let's make a police report .... guess what - all of them run in the house.
We made a police report , and came a police patrol car picking us up to make a report.

And guess what - right when me and my sister enter the patrol car and begin to move , i see in the rear mirror the neighbours begin to come out again and b**** in the middle of the street.

Luckily end of the day , the old lady was okay. Police found her at Tugu negara. I came back and lambasted to them , on their selfishness. Guess what they told me - Young man , you do not have kids , you don't understand. They might have knifes.....Told me that next time i will understand...

My reply to them - let's hope that your mother will never have to go thru the same ordeal.

Fast forward 18 years later , i am a married man - with kids. Now guess what , i will still do the same and lock the gate. So i really don't understand the selfishness. Not helping is one thing , to b**** about it , while not willing to report police is the highlight of it.

So if any of you was living at BU 1 , in the same street as me about 18 years back , shame on you if you're the one my story talks about.

p/s - even my family is the same. What ya think! ?
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Your point being that incident happened right before your eyes in BU and so only people around there are like that? Wow! What kind of logic is that? So it wont happen anywhere else because residents outside this area will definitely help? doh.gif
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Datuk Jeghui have so many baby at Denai Alam, Elmina, ETC.. got DASH will banyak banyak ong thumbup.gif
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Datuk Jeghui have so many baby at Denai Alam, Elmina, ETC.. got DASH will banyak banyak ong  thumbup.gif
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haha u realised? actually only Elmina. and old in in Puncak Alam.
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Penchala Link already congested during peak hours nowaday wt cars moving bumper-to-bumper to LDP & TTDI exit...linking the new proposed DASH to it will definitely make the situation worse....
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QUOTE(JV88 @ Nov 20 2014, 04:48 PM)
Penchala Link already congested during peak hours nowaday wt cars moving bumper-to-bumper to LDP & TTDI exit...linking the new proposed DASH to it will definitely make the situation worse....
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This is what i mean.

If build DASH, doesnt help and pay to queue only.. no point.

Mass transit is much better and will help on commercial and corporate activity.
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This is what i mean.

If build DASH, doesnt help and pay to queue only.. no point.

Mass transit is much better and will help on commercial and corporate activity.
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At least DASH will ease a bit the traffic from puncak perdana to Guthrie highway..
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should build more BRT n LRT not high way. PJ and KL road contruct never stop coz super jam and dusty
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BRT is enough and cheaper than LRT


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At least DASH will ease a bit the traffic from puncak perdana to Guthrie highway..
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Yes, i agree, but end at Sungai Buloh, not penchala link.
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i second this

BRT is enough and cheaper than LRT
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Yes, can build BRT first, then in future can convert to LRT when the volume is huge.
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Yes, i agree, but end at Sungai Buloh, not penchala link.
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I tot DASH oledi approve by Gov and in proses?? issit?? hmm.gif
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confirm already..
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Much of the current controversy over these highways (EKVE,SUKE,DASH,KIDEX,) was because the state had, unfortunately, created a perception that they would proceed no matter what.

In reality, final approval for any of them was a long way off because the developers were only starting the process of preparing the reports,...once those reports have been submitted to the local council, the real work of determining whether the projects should go on would start.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...ew-highways-for
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Your point being that incident happened right before your eyes in BU and so only people around there are like that? Wow! What kind of logic is that? So it wont happen anywhere else because residents outside this area will definitely help?  doh.gif
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I have experience at Subang Jaya, SS 18, where my wife formerly lives. She has a Malay uncle neighbor with 2 sons. One day, our old iswara alarm went off, and out came the Uncle and his 2 sons with sticks. Saw us there , waved and went back in. Sad to say, the Malay Uncle was the closest to a civic minded and unselfish neighbor I had.
You can say I have bad experience, but having the odds of neighbor which throws dog poo on your car, build a unbreakable divider in the middle of both houses so you cannot park your car there , kill your plants by watering them on purpose ( flood it) when the neighbor are gardening lovers are quite some experience I had. You cannot blame the odds I've faced.
The odds are there is so many selfish people around, and it happens to congregates at PJ. You can deny that fact, but it is. Face it. I am a Chinese living at PJ for 35 years , and it doesn't bring me any good for stereotyping it. Obviously there are people outside that category, but the odds are low. Real low.
I may have bad sentiments, but it obviously stems from bad experiences, one too many.
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QUOTE(PACINO @ Nov 21 2014, 12:17 AM)
I have experience at Subang Jaya, SS 18, where my wife formerly lives. She has a Malay uncle neighbor with 2 sons. One day, our old iswara alarm went off, and out came the Uncle and his 2 sons with sticks. Saw us there , waved and went back in. Sad to say, the Malay Uncle was the closest to a civic minded and unselfish neighbor I had.
You can say I have bad experience, but having the odds of neighbor which throws dog poo on your car, build a unbreakable divider in the middle of both houses so you cannot park your car there , kill your plants by watering them on purpose ( flood it) when the neighbor are gardening lovers are quite some experience I had. You cannot blame the odds I've faced.
The odds are there is so many selfish people around, and it happens to congregates at PJ. You can deny that fact, but it is. Face it. I am a Chinese living at PJ for 35 years , and it doesn't bring me any good for stereotyping it. Obviously there are people outside that category, but the odds are low. Real low.
I may have bad sentiments, but it obviously stems from bad experiences, one too many.
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Witnessing one unaided incident in your neighbourhood and another vigilante family in another makes the former a bad taste in your mouth to the extent you have to make a gross generalization that way? Whatever point you are making is obviously statistically flawed per se. It is akin to saying I haven't seen a car accident happening in Cheras but I have witnessed one in Klang so drivers in Klang are reckless and that's where all reckless drivers live. That's a plain stupid statement to make. Oh ya, wherever you are staying right now, can I say the population there is pretty good at stereotyping and making baseless idiotic allegations?

If you read carefully what I said in the first post you quoted, I said these things are the norm these days everywhere. Not that I am denying anything. Can you show me the statistics of PJ people being the most selfish in Klang Valley?

It is good that you realize stereotyping does you no good. So don't.

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Actually if people willing to pay toll, i think they more willing to pay MRT ticket. So build more MRT line to solve the problem. Not highway which is cause more jam.

No Kidex, No Dash, No EKVE
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my houses just beside DASH & KIDEX, i said yes because it serve better life to others.
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more highway more jam? are you kidding? close all the road means no jam? no need to go out, rotting at home?
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more highway more jam? are you kidding? close all the road means no jam? no need to go out, rotting at home?
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I thought building more highway that add more traffic to an already congested highway like LDP, Sprint & Penchala Link is a worse decision.
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I thought building more highway that add more traffic to an already congested highway like LDP, Sprint & Penchala Link is a worse decision.
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Exactly, if connect DASH to LDP and Penchala, kaboom, the whole area K.O.
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when build the highway , that area will jam for few year , after finish build another highway...jam never stop
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Exactly, if connect DASH to LDP and Penchala, kaboom, the whole area K.O.
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Right now during peak hours, the traffic already pile up the whole stretch of Penchala Link right up to the Mont Kiara toll. Imagine linking more highway to it.

For those not use to Penchala Link shud try it & experience the scenario 1st...
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QUOTE(LTG @ Nov 21 2014, 10:00 AM)
when build the highway , that area will jam for few year , after finish build another highway...jam never stop
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I don't see the logics in paying toll to be stuck in a bad traffic in order to reach your destination.

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Published: Friday November 21, 2014 MYT 12:00:00 AM
Updated: Friday November 21, 2014 MYT 7:59:30 AM
State govt has until tomorrow to release info on Dash approval XXX

BY VINCENT TAN







Saying ‘no’: Michelle (right) and Mohd Abu Bakar (centre) discussing a map showing the portion of the Damansara-Shah Alam Highway, which will run from Mutiara Damansara through Jalan PJU 8/2 and 8/5 and up through Jalan PJU 8/1.
Saying ‘no’: Michelle (right) and Mohd Abu Bakar (centre) discussing a map showing the portion of the Damansara-Shah Alam Highway, which will run from Mutiara Damansara through Jalan PJU 8/2 and 8/5 and up through Jalan PJU 8/1.

THE Selangor government has until tomorrow to comply with a Freedom of Information (FoI) request by a resident for official minutes over approval for the Damansara-Shah Alam Highway (Dash).

Emerald Damansara Perdana resident Abu Bakar Mohd, a member of the Say No To Dash (SNTD) group, had made the request on Oct 23.

SNTD spokesman Michelle Wong, who chaired a press conference on Wednesday, said in addition to the FoI request, Selangor Mentri Besar Azmin Ali had agreed to meet them early next month over the issue.

“Up till now, we have not received any information on what sort of approvals were given by the Selangor Economic Action Council (MTES) ,” Michelle said, citing the lack of traffic and environmental impact assessment (TIA and EIA) studies.

She said Bukit Lanjan assemblyman Elizabeth Wong had also written in to the council requesting that the conditional approval documents on Dash’s concession agreement be released but to no avail.

“The concession agreement for Dash was signed between Prolintas and the Malaysian Highway Authority (LLM) in October 2013.

“We want to know whether Prolintas has been given an extension to obtain state government approval because the concession agreement should have lapsed by now,” said Michelle.

Both Abu Bakar and Michelle expressed frustration at the lack of information on the highway.

“No public consultation has been done despite this impacting us directly as the elevated highway will run right in front of several high-rise buildings,” said Abu Bakar.

A total of 12 residential joint-management bodies/committees in Damansara Perdana and Mutiara Damansara, representing about 24,000 residents in 12,000 homes, have endorsed SNTD thus far.

The proposed route for Dash was included in the recent Petaling Jaya Local Plans draft amendments exercise, but the draft exercise has since been repealed in the Petaling Jaya City Council’s September fullboard meeting.

Dash is expected to cost RM4bil, and the proposed route, parts of it elevated, would run from Shah Alam’s Puncak Perdana U10, through Alam Suria, Denai Alam, Kampung Melayu Subang, Rubber Research Institute Malaysia, Kota Damansara, Mutiara Damansara and Damansara Perdana before linking to Sprint and Damansara-Puchong Expressway (LDP).

http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Community/2...h-approval-XXX/

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QUOTE(mroys@lyn @ Nov 21 2014, 09:16 AM)
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I am not against the building of highway. If it eases the traffic why not? But DASH will terminate at LDP which is already way too congested. Unless there is more LDP outlets being planned or else diverting traffic from one area at the expense of clogging up the traffic at the other end isnt the solution. Clear the bottleneck first and show us the TIA. I am sold then.
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If u live in forest and dont know what happen outside, you can just keep quiet.
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you don't want highway, you go and stay inside cave. rclxms.gif

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you don't highway, you go and stay inside cave. rclxms.gif
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Really waste of time to debate with u which have no idea what you talking about.
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Witnessing one unaided incident in your neighbourhood and another vigilante family in another makes the former a bad taste in your mouth to the extent you have to make a gross generalization that way? Whatever point you are making is obviously statistically flawed per se.  It is akin to saying I haven't seen a car accident happening in Cheras but I have witnessed one in Klang so drivers in Klang are reckless and that's where all reckless drivers live. That's a plain stupid statement to make. Oh ya, wherever you are staying right now, can I say the population there is pretty good at stereotyping and making baseless idiotic allegations?

If you read carefully what I said in the first post you quoted, I said these things are the norm these days everywhere. Not that I am denying anything. Can you show me the statistics of PJ people being the most selfish in Klang Valley?

It is good that you realize stereotyping does you no good. So don't.
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Of course you can argue to till the cows come home , as there isnt a census nor statistics taken on this subject. ( Unless some people nothing better to do comes out with a survey ).

Norm , as people get selfish , but it's only much more apparent in PJ. Hope one day someone is really nothing better to do and take a census over it. Then maybe it will prove it.
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do anyone of you expert in traffic management?

i'm thinking why it's can congest more on LDP if they are the same amount of people that using the LDP.

my scenario of DASH user
U10 shah alam,
- now jalan sungai buloh, enter shah alam nkve then exit nkve damansara, LDP
- change to DASH, LDP (reduce jam at damansara link exit LDP)

U5 Shah Alam user
- now jalan sungai buloh, persiaran surian, LDP
- change to DASH, LDP (reduce jam along persiaran surian)

kota damansara user
- now persiaran surian, LDP
- change to DASH, LDP (reduce jam along persiaran surian)


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win win situation for all is they change alignment near Damansara Perdana there lo
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QUOTE(JV88 @ Nov 21 2014, 09:52 AM)
I thought building more highway that add more traffic to an already congested highway like LDP, Sprint & Penchala Link is a worse decision.
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It works both ways. Dash carry traffic to LDP and in the same time taking out traffic from LDP to Dash.
Whoever want to reach somewhere along LDP will still come in to LDP nothing to do with DASH. It cater a convenience for user to reach or to get out.

With Dash, it simply means another option of travelling.
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QUOTE(PACINO @ Nov 21 2014, 12:05 PM)
Of course you can argue to till the cows come home , as there isnt a census nor statistics taken on this subject. ( Unless some people nothing better to do comes out with a survey ).

Norm , as people get selfish , but it's only much more apparent in PJ. Hope one day someone is really nothing better to do and take a census over it. Then maybe it will prove it.
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Spot on. No statistical analysis yet you are so adamant on passing a discriminatory remark like that. Yeah i agree with u. There is no point arguing since I underestimated your stereotyping tendency. So let's give it a rest. Cheers!
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QUOTE(elmond @ Nov 21 2014, 12:06 PM)
do anyone of you expert in traffic management?

i'm thinking why it's can congest more on LDP if they are the same amount of people that using the LDP.

my scenario of DASH user
U10 shah alam,
- now jalan sungai buloh, enter shah alam nkve then exit nkve damansara, LDP
- change to DASH, LDP (reduce jam at damansara link exit LDP)

U5 Shah Alam user
- now jalan sungai buloh, persiaran surian, LDP
- change to DASH, LDP (reduce jam along persiaran surian)

kota damansara user
- now persiaran surian, LDP
- change to DASH, LDP (reduce jam along persiaran surian)
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QUOTE(bb68 @ Nov 21 2014, 02:28 PM)
It works both ways. Dash carry traffic to LDP and in the same time taking out traffic from LDP to Dash.
Whoever want to reach somewhere along LDP will still come in to LDP nothing to do with DASH. It cater a convenience for user to reach or to get out. 

With Dash, it simply means another option of travelling.
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I don't have anything against DASH but honestly speaking, I don't think it will help much. Probably few places will be better off but they are just chocking the load of it to the LDP as if it's not bad enough now.
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QUOTE(PACINO @ Nov 20 2014, 10:08 AM)
i like to correct that statement. It is not selfish orang kaya , but more like Selfish individuals. Whether rich or poor , it's the same. I have been living in Petaling Jaya for 35 years of my life , and i can tell you that majority of the people living there are self centered.

Again if you got rob there , no one will come to your aid. It's a fact. This is more prevalent in places like Bandar Utama & etc.
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suggestion : do read up on the complete and accurate objections of Damansara segment of DASH. If those people are truly selfish, they wont be challenging the legality of the amendments to Rancangan Tempatan Petaling Jaya 2 - thus challenging the legality of DASH.
The whimsical bulldozing of projects is a reflection of how poorly governed this country is. If this is just about a bunch of spoilt rich fellas fighting for a dog walk in the park, then you have been seriously misguided. What happens today to PJ can happen to anyone else in this country.

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Dash is design to connect to panchala link till KL city how can u all keep saying that Dash end at LDP and bring traffic to LDP. People to use DASH is to reach KL not to PJ, bandar utama bla bla. just a inter change at LDP only, what wrong with it?? people using the dash from shah alam and other area wont bored to enter damansara perdana...... really got gold give it to them meh?
NO to DASH because u all know that more traffic is gonna using panchala link hence cause existing user who living in damansara perdana, bandar utama, pj abit traffic congested. Pls lah Penchala Link is not just for residence in damansara perdana Bandar utama.
Further gov hav ready show u the studies from expect u all still question it, why not u all get a professional and redo a studies can compare lol.
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QUOTE(godlikexioo @ Nov 21 2014, 03:15 PM)
Dash is design to connect to panchala link till KL city how can u all keep saying that Dash end at LDP and bring traffic to LDP. People to use DASH is to reach KL not to PJ, bandar utama bla bla. just a inter change at LDP only, what wrong with it?? people using the dash from shah alam and other area wont bored to enter damansara perdana...... really got gold give it to them meh?
NO to DASH because u all know that more traffic is gonna using panchala link hence cause existing user who living in damansara perdana, bandar utama, pj abit traffic congested. Pls lah Penchala Link is not just for residence in damansara perdana Bandar utama.
Further gov hav ready show u the studies from expect u all still question it, why not u all get a professional and redo a studies can compare lol.
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Can you kindly show me the studies done i.e. environmental and even the traffic impact assessments? Please show me.  doh.gif
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QUOTE(godlikexioo @ Nov 21 2014, 03:15 PM)
Dash is design to connect to panchala link till KL city how can u all keep saying that Dash end at LDP and bring traffic to LDP. People to use DASH is to reach KL not to PJ, bandar utama bla bla. just a inter change at LDP only, what wrong with it?? people using the dash from shah alam and other area wont bored to enter damansara perdana...... really got gold give it to them meh?
NO to DASH because u all know that more traffic is gonna using panchala link hence cause existing user who living in damansara perdana, bandar utama, pj abit traffic congested. Pls lah Penchala Link is not just for residence in damansara perdana Bandar utama.
Further gov hav ready show u the studies from expect u all still question it, why not u all get a professional and redo a studies can compare lol.
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i have to admit, the highway is to release the potential of kwasa, elmina & u10 shah alam to KL by car
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i have to admit, the highway is to release the potential of kwasa, elmina & u10 shah alam to KL by car
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This is to all reach the Mahathir vision of connecting all. Lolz.

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QUOTE(elmond @ Nov 21 2014, 04:19 PM)
i have to admit, the highway is to release the potential of kwasa, elmina & u10 shah alam to KL by car
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elmina will future launch affordable housing, which is understandable
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Can you kindly show me the studies done i.e. environmental and even the traffic impact assessments? Please show me.  doh.gif
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why i hav u show u?
go get ur self la.
Gov project must have a preliminary & details assessment studies before it can be approved, u tot so easy ah like u just typing for fun meh? If donno pls look for the govt procedure.
Further are u in this industry? (civil/environment/traffic). if not u give u also don understand those technical write-up. Pls safe our earth dont produce rubbish.
If so easy to understand engineering (civil, environment, traffic) those engineer dont need go for 4yrs university + min 3yrs professional training before sit for professional exam to be come Engineer lah.
u really must kidding n talk cok u number 1 lah. rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(godlikexioo @ Nov 21 2014, 04:36 PM)
why i hav u show u?
go get ur self la.
Gov project must have a preliminary & details assessment studies before it can be approved, u tot so easy ah like u just typing for fun meh? If donno pls look for the govt procedure.
Further are u in this industry? (civil/environment/traffic). if not u give u also don understand those technical write-up. Pls safe our earth dont produce rubbish.
If so easy to understand engineering (civil, environment, traffic)  those engineer dont need go for 4yrs university + min 3yrs professional training  before sit for professional exam to be come Engineer lah.
u really must kidding n talk cok u number 1 lah. rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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Means you are bullcrapping la. You said gov showed expert assessment and we still questioned it. Ask you to show me then give a whole load of crap excuses said showed also useless. Then showed already or not? Your contradiction speaks volume of your intelligence. rclxub.gif

Do you not know this is the report the affected residents are trying to get? In bolehland no detailed assessment oso can approve. You dunno ah? The ADUN's even said they weren't aware of any report themselves. Come on la bullcrapper. Do a bit of homework before commenting. There is a saying in hokkien 'lan bo kian bo yau gin, mien ge kian'

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QUOTE(elmond @ Nov 21 2014, 04:16 PM)
read my very old  comments, i had it.
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i dont get why ppl say choking at ldp as if everybody wants to use ldp

if i live in elmina and work in kl, i travel from dash then link to penchala then jln kuching ... how does it affect ldp

even if i work in pj, i would have use ldp with or without dash ..
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Means you are bullcrapping la. You said gov showed expert assessment and we still questioned it. Ask you to show me then give a whole load of crap excuses said showed also useless. Then showed already or not? Your contradiction speaks volume of your intelligence. rclxub.gif
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kindly point me to that post. Cheers mate.
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are u cacat?
go get ur self the report & pls apply an engineering course before u read it coz u won understand.
But the sadness is donno u qualify to apply engineering not.
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are u cacat?
go get ur self the report & pls apply an engineering course before u read it coz u won understand.
But the sadness is donno u qualify to apply engineering not.
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The sad truth is, you need orang cacat to knock some senses into you. That makes u.... blink.gif ???

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WHATEVER IT IS. SAY YES TO DASH FOR ME wink.gif
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WHATEVER IT IS. SAY YES TO DASH FOR ME wink.gif
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Those who have property nearby Puncak Alam/Elmina of cause 100% say yes, no matter how bad the condition and impact at Damansara Perdana.

So better don't discuss anymore.
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i dont get why ppl say choking at ldp as if everybody wants to use ldp

if i live in elmina and work in kl, i travel from dash then link to penchala then jln kuching ... how does it affect ldp

even if i work in pj, i would have use ldp with or without dash ..
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Mate, currently the stretch along Penchala Link already congested from the entrance of Damansara Perdana/Mutiara Damansara up to after Mont Kiara toll...adding DASH highway definitely will add more traffic to that...

So even if u use/didn't use LDP, u will be stuck in a bumper-to-bumper crawl along Penchala Link...
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VISE VERSA MING YEW. Those who have properties in D/Perdana or nearby sure say 100% NO DASH. That's human Nature. BTW I have property in both area and I support dash because of the connectivity. No hard feelings.
QUOTE(mingyew @ Nov 21 2014, 05:56 PM)
Those who have property nearby Puncak Alam/Elmina of cause 100% say yes, no matter how bad the condition and impact at Damansara Perdana.

So better don't discuss anymore.
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Those who have property nearby Puncak Alam/Elmina of cause 100% say yes, no matter how bad the condition and impact at Damansara Perdana.

So better don't discuss anymore.
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Spot on mate...
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QUOTE(LMN9997 @ Nov 21 2014, 06:00 PM)
VISE VERSA MING YEW. Those who have properties in D/Perdana or nearby sure say 100% NO DASH. That's human Nature. BTW I have property in both area and I support dash because of the connectivity. No hard feelings.
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Yeah, no hard feeling.

I dont have any property at both side.

But as my own study, DASH to Penchala only can make worse to Damansara Perdana junction.

Build the overhead bridge at the whole stretch of DP and only 15meter away from the building, this is not the way to build highway, unless they build underground, then ok la.
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QUOTE(mingyew @ Nov 21 2014, 06:03 PM)
Yeah, no hard feeling.

I dont have any property at both side.

But as my own study, DASH to Penchala only can make worse to Damansara Perdana junction.

Build the overhead bridge at the whole stretch of DP and only 15meter away from the building, this is not the way to build highway, unless they build underground, then ok la.
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That's the message im trying to get across
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QUOTE(mingyew @ Nov 21 2014, 06:03 PM)
Yeah, no hard feeling.

I dont have any property at both side.

But as my own study, DASH to Penchala only can make worse to Damansara Perdana junction.

Build the overhead bridge at the whole stretch of DP and only 15meter away from the building, this is not the way to build highway, unless they build underground, then ok la.
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Im also not own any property both side.

But i support DASH coz i believe it really help many family in northern part of KV.
Maybe 15m is too close to the building & the way of build a highway is it correct im not sure. Im not dare to comment further and leave it to Expert (Engineer).

To all, sometime pls give some change to others to enjoy whatever infrastructure that gov willing to develop, we all are tax payers. Don't just say NO to DASH because it may disturb ourselves, can ask for realign or better design to minimize the impact to existing property owner in Damansara Perdana. Property in Damansara Perdana can be success if because of the Penchala Link. Without it Damansara Perdana is nothing. PLs think of it.
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Sad , dash not joint setia alam.
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QUOTE(tnang @ Nov 21 2014, 06:55 PM)
Sad , dash not joint setia alam.
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unlikely because setia alam user only use it sometime if nkve have terrible jam

u10 shah alam to setia alam is something can be consider.
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believe me those on top of protection on DASH highway already have the copy of EIA & TIA
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It won't benefit much to investors as selling prices of new projects already tk into a/c of new highway, unless you bought the property long time ago.

Not all DASH users are working in KL/PJ or driving to KL/PJ everyday. DASH is just an additional option. Ppl working in KL/PJ who don't want to stuck in traffic will choose other options like drive to Sg Buloh MRT / Kota Damansara MRT via DASH, to Subang Airport & tk KTM, or to ara damansara and tk LRT.

Elmina and RRI are two upcoming big townships in addition to those high rise buildings under construction in Damansara, Sg Buloh and along LDP. There will be more & more cars on the roads. I don't think govt will call off the DASH, hence it is better to complete the DASH ASAP. I believe those who bantah DASH also understand the situation, just that they ask for realign the highway at Damansara Perdana area.

I agree that BRT/LRT are better compared to DASH as public transport system in Shah Alam is really sucks, but those areas which link to DASH are mainly landed houses, therefore BRT/LRT may not be suitable for the time being. Just my 2c.
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when can complete??
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Dash will spur further building boom at the shah alam side, creating the problem its trying to solve in the first place. No worries, build more highways!
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DASH is badly needed especially for Shah Alam folks who is stuck with NKVE nowadays.
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DASH is badly needed especially for Shah Alam folks who is stuck with NKVE nowadays.
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Any idea when this project will be completed?

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when can complete??
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wah peri kor always ask completion date one....haha rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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if wan invest Puncak Alam must kno that la.....i think from PA go KD sould be very fast  wink.gif  flex.gif
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Why didn’t concessionaire consult us, group asks
BY: FERNANDO FONG

'Say No To Dash' spokesperson Michelle Wong with other members holding placards outside the Works Ministry. — TRP pic by Daniel Chan

KUALA LUMPUR, Dec 2, 2014:
The “Say No to Dash” group is disappointed that a highway concessionaire did not engage residents on plans to cut through Damansara Perdana.
Group spokesperson Michelle Wong said at a meeting chaired by Works Minister Datuk Fadillah Yusof with Projek Lintasan Kota Holdings Sdn Bhd (Prolintas) representatives today that they were unable to give any reply on public consultation for the project.

Prolintas will align the 20.1km, three-lane, Damansara-Shah Alam Elevated Expressway (Dash).
The public consultation with Petaling Jaya residents from 25th Sept 2013, Wong said, was supposed to be part of the conditional approval for the concession agreement, but this had been extended to Dec 24.

“It is doubtful that Prolintas will be be able to hold the public consultation since only a short time is left.”
Wong was speaking after the meeting at the Public Works Department in Jalan Sultan Salahuddin this afternoon.
The group, however, thanked Fadillah for offering to write to the Department of Environment to release the Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA) for the project which is classified under the Official Secrets Act.

The ministry will also write to the Petaling Jaya City Council for the group to obtain the requisite documentation for traffic (TIA) and social impact assessment.
The group was also disappointed that the Selangor Economic Action Council (MTES) had yet to reply to its request, under the Freedom of Information Enactment, to obtain meeting minutes from MTES on the government’s approval of the highway.

“A reply was due to us on Nov 22.”
The group later presented a petition against the realignment which was signed by 7,000 residents during the meeting.

Damansara Perdana resident Alvin Chin, who also attended the meeting, criticised Bukit Lanjan assemblyman Elizabeth Wong’s statement on Dec 1 that there were no approvals or land acquisition gazette done for Dash.
Chin said residents discovered letters from the Selangor government instructing the Percetakan Nasional Malaysia Bhd (PNB) to publish a Land Acquisition Gazette dated 10 July 2012.

“A Land Acquisition Gazette means that the Selangor government had identified the alignment for the project, because such land lots cannot be specified without an idea of where the highway would traverse.”
He said the Selangor government, especially Wong as state exco, should have had access to such information instead of the residents having to look for the information themselves.

The group said it was keeping its options open on the outcome of its protest against the project cutting through their neighbourhood.
The group will meet Selangor Menteri Besar Azmin Ali on Dec 16 to discuss the agreement and the alignment.
“We hope the Pakatan Rakyat government will have straight and firm answers for us and not give us the run around again.”

Chin said there were 12,000 homes and 24,000 residents that had endorsed the “Say No to Dash” stand so far.
The expressway, estimated to cost RM4.18 billion, will link road users to Lebuhraya Damansara-Puchong (LDP) and Sprint Highway and will connect areas such as Jalan Sungai Buloh, Puncak Perdana, Alam Suria, Denai Alam, Kampung Melayu Subang, the Rubber Research Institute Malaysia, Kota Damansara, Damansara Perdana and Mutiara Damansara.

Read more: http://www.therakyatpost.com/news/2014/12/.../#ixzz3KkiTpGUS
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NEWS  PUBLISHED: 3 hours ago

Why didn’t concessionaire consult us, group asks
BY: FERNANDO FONG

'Say No To Dash' spokesperson Michelle Wong with other members holding placards outside the Works Ministry. — TRP pic by Daniel Chan

KUALA LUMPUR, Dec 2, 2014:
The “Say No to Dash” group is disappointed that a highway concessionaire did not engage residents on plans to cut through Damansara Perdana.
Group spokesperson Michelle Wong said at a meeting chaired by Works Minister Datuk Fadillah Yusof with Projek Lintasan Kota Holdings Sdn Bhd (Prolintas) representatives today that they were unable to give any reply on public consultation for the project.

Prolintas will align the 20.1km, three-lane, Damansara-Shah Alam Elevated Expressway (Dash).
The public consultation with Petaling Jaya residents from 25th Sept 2013, Wong said, was supposed to be part of the conditional approval for the concession agreement, but this had been extended to Dec 24.

“It is doubtful that Prolintas will be be able to hold the public consultation since only a short time is left.”
Wong was speaking after the meeting at the Public Works Department in Jalan Sultan Salahuddin this afternoon.
The group, however, thanked Fadillah for offering to write to the Department of Environment to release the Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA) for the project which is classified under the Official Secrets Act.

The ministry will also write to the Petaling Jaya City Council for the group to obtain the requisite documentation for traffic (TIA) and social impact assessment.
The group was also disappointed that the Selangor Economic Action Council (MTES) had yet to reply to its request, under the Freedom of Information Enactment, to obtain meeting minutes from MTES on the government’s approval of the highway.

“A reply was due to us on Nov 22.”
The group later presented a petition against the realignment which was signed by 7,000 residents during the meeting.

Damansara Perdana resident Alvin Chin, who also attended the meeting, criticised Bukit Lanjan assemblyman Elizabeth Wong’s statement on Dec 1 that there were no approvals or land acquisition gazette done for Dash.
Chin said residents discovered letters from the Selangor government instructing the Percetakan Nasional Malaysia Bhd (PNB) to publish a Land Acquisition Gazette dated 10 July 2012.

“A Land Acquisition Gazette means that the Selangor government had identified the alignment for the project, because such land lots cannot be specified without an idea of where the highway would traverse.”
He said the Selangor government, especially Wong as state exco, should have had access to such information instead of the residents having to look for the information themselves.

The group said it was keeping its options open on the outcome of its protest against the project cutting through their neighbourhood.
The group will meet Selangor Menteri Besar Azmin Ali on Dec 16 to discuss the agreement and the alignment.
“We hope the Pakatan Rakyat government will have straight and firm answers for us and not give us the run around again.”

Chin said there were 12,000 homes and 24,000 residents that had endorsed the “Say No to Dash” stand so far.
The expressway, estimated to cost RM4.18 billion, will link road users to Lebuhraya Damansara-Puchong (LDP) and Sprint Highway and will connect areas such as Jalan Sungai Buloh, Puncak Perdana, Alam Suria, Denai Alam, Kampung Melayu Subang, the Rubber Research Institute Malaysia, Kota Damansara, Damansara Perdana and Mutiara Damansara.

Read more: http://www.therakyatpost.com/news/2014/12/.../#ixzz3KkiTpGUS
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Well done. Keep up the good work. Why would an EIA be classified under official secrets act anyway?? The details of the study should have been declared publicly! Furthermore, public consultation should be done for a project of such magnitude.

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Well done. Keep up the good work. Why would an EIA be classified under official secrets act anyway?? The details of the study should have been declared publicly! Furthermore, public consultation should be done for a project of such magnitude.
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EIA be classified under official secrets act anyway??

this u need to ask ah jib KOR yawn.gif yawn.gif
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Do they know how much economic losses and air pollution due to traffic jam in NKVE?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGyzca_1wSI

How is the NKVE 4th lane project going? Almost done right? Does it reduce your travelling time from shah alam to PJ or KL? By how many minutes?
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Such massive high profile project.

If the route is designed too near existing houses then residents have their rights to question the authorities.




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Those portion done damn smooth nowadays.
but undercon portion is painful, v jam, nevertheless worth suffer short term.
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Works minister: No automatic renewals for Kidex, Dash if deals lapse again
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December 11, 2014

Fadillah stressed that any decision on extending the concession agreement of both proposed Selangor highways would be made only after a 'detailed discussion' with government entities. — Picture by Nazerul Ramli
Fadillah stressed that any decision on extending the concession agreement of both proposed Selangor highways would be made only after a 'detailed discussion' with government entities. — Picture by Nazerul Ralli

KUALA LUMPUR, Dec 11 — Putrajaya has given its assurance that both the Kinrara Damansara Expressway (Kidex) and the Damansara-Shah Alam Elevated Highway (DASH) will not get further extensions to their concessions automatically if the developers still fail to meet existing criteria.

Works Minister Datuk Fadillah Yusof said both projects are closely scrutinised by several government agencies and must be returned to the Public-Private Partnership Unit (Ukas) of the Prime Minister's Department (JPM) for review should their concession agreements expire a second time.

"If the condition precedent is not fulfilled according to the specified time in the concession agreement, it will be referred back to Ukas JPM," he told Malay Mail Online via text message when contacted.

Fadillah stressed that any decision on extending the concession agreement of both proposed Selangor highways would be made only after a "detailed discussion" with government entities including the Ministry of Finance (MoF), the Attorney-General's Chambers (AGC) and the Malaysian Highway Authority (LLM).

Kidex Sdn Bhd, the developer of Kidex, was granted a three-month extension to its concession deal after this hit the one-year expiry on November 15, without having fulfilled the necessary preconditions for full approval by Putrajaya.


Similarly, Dash's developer, Prolintas Bhd's concession agreement ended on September 25, and was extended until December 24.

Lobby groups opposed to both previously said the minister had conveyed that the concessions would “sent back” to the Prime Minister’s Office upon a second expiration, and expressed apprehension over what this would mean for both highway projects.

The Kidex project has been rejected on three occasions by the city council as the developer failed to provide sufficient details.

Under Section 18 of the Town Country and Planning Act (TCPA), construction cannot start unless a highway fits with the MBPJ’s local plans.

Kidex is currently not incorporated into the council’s blueprint for Petaling Jaya.

Among the areas that could be affected by the project are Tropicana Mall, SS2 Mall, Rothman’s traffic lights, Section 14, Amcorp Mall, Hilton Petaling Jaya, Tun Hussein Onn Eye Hospital, Jalan Templer roundabout, Taman Datuk Harun, Taman Medan Baru and Bandar Kinrara.

With 12 interchanges, the RM11.5 Dash expressway plans to link drivers to Lebuhraya Damansara Puchong and Sprint highways, which residents claimed are already congested during peak hours.

Dash will serve motorists from Puncak Perdana, Alam Suria, Denai Alam, Kampung Melayu Subang, Jalan Sungai Buloh, the Rubber Research Institute Malaysia, Kota Damansara, Damansara Perdana and Mutiara Damansara, Prolintas said.

Critics and residents are concerned that, in addition to further traffic congestion, construction in the highly-populated area will be detrimental to their safety, health and the environment.

- See more at: http://m.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/a...h.eeCzfvyl.dpuf

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Seem many offence this DASH ??? sad.gif
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The highway must be built in order to support at least Elmina and Kwasaland but not as proposed.

I suggest that the route shall be amended as mentioned earlier.
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QUOTE(New Klang @ Dec 11 2014, 05:44 PM)
The highway must be built in order to support at least Elmina and Kwasaland but not as proposed.

I suggest that the route shall be amended as mentioned earlier.
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Since DASH confrim oledi still can amend meh??
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means not going through D' Perdana? This direct route can ease tons of traffic in LDP.
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The idea is to serve Elmina and Kwasa Land.

An alternative is connecting NKVE/NSE with Jalan Sungai Buloh through Kwasa Land.




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Works minister: No automatic renewals for Kidex, Dash if deals lapse again
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December 11, 2014

Fadillah stressed that any decision on extending the concession agreement of both proposed Selangor highways would be made only after a 'detailed discussion' with government entities. — Picture by Nazerul Ramli
Well done, keep up the good work. They can realign DASH elsewhere but not at 30m (?) parallel to the condos along Damansara Perdana, which is detrimental to the health for residents here. vested interest.


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Azmin ‘shocked’ Dash proximity to homes, highway opponents claim
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In this file picture, a resident looks at the proposed Damansara-Shah Alam expressway plans during a meeting to voice out calls against the DASH highway at Damansara Perdana. — Picture by Choo Choy May
In this file picture, a resident looks at the proposed Damansara-Shah Alam expressway plans during a meeting to voice out calls against the DASH highway at Damansara Perdana. — Picture by Choo Choy May
SHAH ALAM, Dec 16 — Selangor mentri besar Azmin Ali was shock when he was told by residents that the Damansara-Shah Alam expressway (Dash) would be mere metres away from two condominiums, representatives of Say No to Dash (SNTD) said today.

SNTD representative Michelle Wong said the Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA) report obtained by the group recently revealed “several” flaws — one of which was the fact that the EIA failed to recognise the consequences of building a 19-metre elevated highway 11.2 metres and 14 metres away from two condominiums in the Damansara Perdana area.

The EIA, added Wong also failed to differentiate Mutiara Damansara as a wholly-separate residential area from Damansara Perdana.

“He (Azmin) sees how ridiculous it is. He was just as shocked during the meeting.

“We are okay with the highway coming from Shah Alam... we do not accept elevated highways through densely populated and developed residential areas,” she told a news conference here after SNTD’s meeting with Azmin.

Wong said that MB Azmin had told them he would be meeting developer Prolintas Bhd and the Malaysian Highway Authority (LLM) over the matter next, and will be demanding that a new EIA be prepared.

“He (Azmin) said he would impose conditions, and that a new EIA be done before the highway is approved,” she added.

SNTD had also urged MB Azmin to call off the state government’s structural plan for 2035 which had included Dash and several other highways including the Kinrara-Damansara Expressway (Kidex.)

SNTD has claimed that the highway developer, Prolintas Bhd, has tried to conceal the fact that work on the Dash project has already begun despite no official confirmation from the Works Ministry or the Selangor government.

Attempts by the anti-Dash lobby to use the state government’s Freedom of Information Act (FOI) to release the state executive council’s meeting minutes on the highway have been unsuccessful so far.

It is understood that the Work Ministry’s concession agreement with Prolintas, which ended on September 25, has been extended till December 24.

According to Prolintas, Dash will be a 20.1km, three-lane, dual carriageway expressway starting from Puncak Perdana in Shah Alam to the Penchala interchange.

In September, the Petaling Jaya City Council (MBPJ) moved to repeal amendments to the city’s plans following public concerns over a number of issues, which included the Dash highway.

Some of the amendments which have been halted include the inclusion of the controversial 20.1km dual carriage Dash.

With 12 interchanges, the RM11.5 billion expressway plans to link drivers to Lebuhraya Damansara Puchong and Sprint highways, which residents claimed are already congested during peak hours.

Dash will serve motorists from Puncak Perdana, Alam Suria, Denai Alam, Kampung Melayu Subang, Jalan Sungai Buloh, the Rubber Research Institute Malaysia, Kota Damansara, Damansara Perdana and Mutiara Damansara, Prolintas said.

SNTD and the residents were concerned that in addition to traffic congestion, construction in the highly-populated area will be detrimental to their safety, health and the environment.

- See more at: http://m.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/a...h.JeULuIEa.dpuf


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They should sack those engineer or whatever u name it that proposed the elevated highway to be 10m+ fr the condos.

Common sense sikit la....
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The impact of population growth in Elmina and Kwasa would cause an increase in road traffic at all directions.

This is unsustainable development.
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They should sack those engineer or whatever u name it that proposed the elevated highway to be 10m+ fr the condos.

Common sense sikit la....
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10m+ fr the condos......which condo affected by DASH ??

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10m+ fr the condos......which condo affected by DASH ??
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Should b Emerald.
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Should b Emerald.
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Only Emerald affected by DASH?? I tot few of condo??
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Only Emerald affected by DASH?? I tot few of condo??
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Ritze Perdana 2, Metropolitan SQ, Emerald. These 3 condos will be directly affected by the present alignment of DASH.
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were those condo under commercial land?
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Ritze Perdana 2, Metropolitan SQ, Emerald. These 3 condos will be directly affected by the present alignment of DASH.
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no matter how they objection, DASH still need to continue bcos Gov oledi approve and in progress. Correct??
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no matter how they objection, DASH still need to continue bcos Gov oledi approve and in progress. Correct??
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Gomen always go ahead with the project regardless of the protest, it's just matter of time. Look at DUKE, its just a few meters away fr some condos.

So technically, DASH should b ready in 5years?
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QUOTE(dp82 @ Dec 27 2014, 11:20 AM)
Gomen always go ahead with the project regardless of the protest, it's just matter of time. Look at DUKE, its just a few meters away fr some condos.

So technically, DASH should b ready in 5years?
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i hope DASH can complete asap. Currently NKVE is f***ing jam jam jam doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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i hope DASH can complete asap. Currently NKVE is f***ing jam jam jam  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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Actually i find that the traffic is better after they upgraded to 4 lanes. Not before the toll tho...
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Actually i find that the traffic is better after they upgraded to 4 lanes. Not before the toll tho...
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that day i jam 90minits from Kayu Ara to Subang Jaya using NKVE when rain...... doh.gif doh.gif

almost 2 hour flex.gif flex.gif
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NKVE traffic is unpredictable. Sometimes federal highway much faster than NKVE.
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QUOTE(dp82 @ Dec 27 2014, 08:02 PM)
Actually i find that the traffic is better after they upgraded to 4 lanes. Not before the toll tho...
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Because of school holiday that's why u find it better.
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Dec 27 2014, 08:17 PM)
that day i jam 90minits from Kayu Ara to Subang Jaya using NKVE when rain...... doh.gif  doh.gif

almost 2 hour  flex.gif  flex.gif
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That part fr Damansara toll to Subang toll is always jam. But after Subang is smooth.
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QUOTE(lightbulk @ Dec 27 2014, 11:08 PM)
Because of school holiday that's why u find it better.
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QUOTE(dp82 @ Dec 28 2014, 07:11 AM)
That part fr Damansara toll to Subang toll is always jam. But after Subang is smooth.
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I just wondering if all subang toll counter using SMART will helping problem of jam?? hmm.gif
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Y not. Look at Batu 3 toll.

But da prob wif MY toll, 10lanes connect to toll but.....exit with 5lanes lol
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RM0.00 SPK Homes : We notice there is an on-going "Support For The DASH Project" petition signing. For more info, you may log-in to https://www.change.org/p/the-damansara-shah...he-dash-project
Pls support for DASH.
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RM0.00 SPK Homes : We notice there is an on-going "Support For The DASH Project" petition signing. For more info, you may log-in to https://www.change.org/p/the-damansara-shah...he-dash-project
Pls support for DASH.
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Very good that the residents are taking action to support DASH.


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gov no $$$ may delay some mega project
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People who dont support DASH really dunno whats going on on NKVE, Jalan Batu Arang, Federal and Guthrie
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But people who support Dash care less about how this highway affect resident living next to it cutting through highly dense residential area.
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post Jan 22 2015, 10:18 PM

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Not much of progress on the reallignment....
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QUOTE(jeghui @ Jan 22 2015, 08:16 PM)
People who dont support DASH really dunno whats going on on NKVE, Jalan Batu Arang, Federal and Guthrie
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People who dont support DASH really dunno whats going on on NKVE, Jalan Batu Arang, Federal and Guthrie
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Depends where one stays. I don't want DASH.

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QUOTE(jucl @ Jan 22 2015, 08:20 PM)
But people who support Dash care less about how this highway affect resident living next to it cutting through highly dense residential area.
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Exactly. If a new highway planned that cuts through a shah alam housing project, i'm sure those guys will protest too. It's normal.
But the point is that DASH will be aligned TOO CLOSE to existing highrise at Damansara Perdana.

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All mega projects still on till now. Based on the latest announcement on the revised budget.
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Exactly. If a new highway planned that cuts through a shah alam housing project, i'm sure those guys will protest too. It's normal.
But the point is that DASH will be aligned TOO CLOSE to existing highrise at Damansara Perdana.
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people protest cause they are only looking out for their own interest. This is what we call selfish in earthly terms.

And they justify this by saying , "if it pass your house , bet you would do the same."

They forgot that not all people are the same. Only selfish people thinks the rest of the world are like them , hence the need to protect themselves more ( Selfish 101)

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QUOTE(PACINO @ Jan 23 2015, 11:07 AM)
people protest cause they are only looking out for their own interest. This is what we call selfish in earthly terms.

And they justify this by saying , "if it pass your house , bet you would do the same."

They forgot that not all people are the same. Only selfish people thinks the rest of the world are like them , hence the need to protect themselves more ( Selfish 101)
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Its like saying those who agree to this project have vested interest hence they are selfish too.
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then it's either you are selfish or you simply do not know that space in between is owned by the government and they can do whatever they like that deem the best for the rakyat.
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QUOTE(jeghui @ Jan 23 2015, 12:21 PM)
then it's either you are selfish or you simply do not know that space in between is owned by the government and they can do whatever they like that deem the best for the rakyat.
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QUOTE(jeghui @ Jan 23 2015, 12:21 PM)
then it's either you are selfish or you simply do not know that space in between is owned by the government and they can do whatever they like that deem the best for the rakyat.
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QUOTE(jeghui @ Jan 23 2015, 12:21 PM)
then it's either you are selfish or you simply do not know that space in between is owned by the government and they can do whatever they like that deem the best for the rakyat.
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yes , i concur. A government needs to do things for the greater good.
Imagine the government didnt make a hard stance on LDP. you will be driving on single/dual lane roads everyday.
Life's a b*t*h , sometimes it bites you in the a*se , but that's life. You win some , you lose some.

What it means is , stop complaining about it , and learn to navigate along it. You can do some greater good , by not complaining and start to go east coast to help in the floods , as you seem so passionate to fight for the people living there ( which got affected by it )

Maybe that should be a better cause to fight for.

I have never object whatever highway to be build , nor LRT/MRT's , as this are requirements for a develop integrated transportation system we are clearly lacking ( be it affecting my daily life at Subang Jaya last time , nor at kota damansara last couple of years )



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Agree that highway needs to be built. Future townships Elmina and Kwasa will be in unfavourable position without this highway.

Govt need to diligently have alternative proposals of how to get around the contentious original route.

Rakyat has the power and need to be wise during voting.
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QUOTE(New Klang @ Jan 23 2015, 01:32 PM)
Agree that highway needs to be built. Future townships Elmina and Kwasa will be in unfavourable position without this highway.

Govt need to diligently have alternative proposals of how to get around the contentious original route.

Rakyat has the power and need to be wise during voting.
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shah alam u10 and puncak alam deserve the benefit too.
now is less than 20% development, imagine these area can fulfill many landed house dream


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QUOTE(elmond @ Jan 23 2015, 02:12 PM)
shah alam u10 and puncak alam deserve the benefit too.
now is less than 20% development, imagine these area can fulfill  many landed house dream
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Yes.

What are the sustainable solutions here?




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noise barrier is the solution.
the best will be full cover, then suddenly the elevated highway become elevated tunnel, those stay beside wont able to view how great or how noise of the highway

for example

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The sound tube in Flemington used as a barrier to reduce noise pollution to nearby community housing towers

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yes i like people who talk about solution rather than complaining like they are so high class people. i.e. snobs.

sound barrier should be made mandatory.

I will stop here and hopefully this benefit can be well utilised and appreciated.


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good ideas. This are the ones should be mooted up. Cheers
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QUOTE(jeghui @ Jan 23 2015, 02:29 PM)
yes i like people who talk about solution rather than complaining like they are so high class people. i.e. snobs.

sound barrier should be made mandatory.

I will stop here and hopefully this benefit can be well utilised and appreciated.
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All new highway usually come with sound barrier..just go to SKVE going toward BSP..they install sound barrier at the place where is near the resident..

Then again i don't think this people will agree.. whistling.gif
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after all is DASH highway a GO or NO GO? There are no official announcement still...
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Dont worry la. No matter how people complain these projects will go ahead. In the future if they decide the best route is in your front yard dont make noise ya good citizens?
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QUOTE(LMN9997 @ Jan 23 2015, 04:45 PM)
after all is DASH highway a GO or NO GO? There are no official announcement still...
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Gone back to the drawing board.

Will take some time maybe in a few years.


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QUOTE(dominus77 @ Dec 23 2014, 01:12 PM)
Ritze Perdana 2, Metropolitan SQ, Emerald. These 3 condos will be directly affected by the present alignment of DASH.
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Only 3 condos? what about those further down jalan pju 8, empire?
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Only 3 condos? what about those further down jalan pju 8, empire?
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Empire Damansara not directly affected as they are further in Jalan PJU 8/8, plus the Petra Energy building is in between Empire Damansara and DASH highway.
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QUOTE(dominus77 @ Jan 26 2015, 05:21 PM)
Empire Damansara not directly affected as they are further in Jalan PJU 8/8, plus the Petra Energy building is in between Empire Damansara and DASH highway.
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you are wrong, the exit to LDP (kepong direction) was east side of empire damansara
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hopefully they can find a win win situation for everyone, realignment in Empire Damansara would be great
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you are wrong, the exit to LDP (kepong direction) was east side of empire damansara
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Are you confusing Empire City with Empire Damansara ?

Empire Damansara (already completed and occupied for a year plus) is surrounded by PJ Trade Center on the west and Petra Energy building on the south.

The present alignment of DASH terminates at Damansara Perdana at the Penchala Link entrance / LDP exit (Jalan PJU 8/1) which is just next to Petra Energy building.

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QUOTE(dominus77 @ Jan 27 2015, 06:16 PM)
Are you confusing Empire City with Empire Damansara ?

Empire Damansara (already completed and occupied for a year plus) is surrounded by PJ Trade Center on the west and Petra Energy building on the south.

The present alignment of DASH terminates at Damansara Perdana at the Penchala Link entrance / LDP exit (Jalan PJU 8/1) which is just next to Petra Energy building.
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haha, my mistake.
yes it pass through east side of empire city not empire damansara
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QUOTE(silentsunami @ Jan 26 2015, 09:53 PM)
hopefully they can find a win win situation for everyone, realignment in Empire Damansara would be great
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win win is dig tunnel to cut through damansara perdana area.
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win win is dig tunnel to cut through damansara perdana area.
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But will take ages to complete.
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QUOTE(Wiredx @ Jan 23 2015, 07:33 PM)
Dont worry la. No matter how people complain these projects will go ahead. In the future if they decide the best route is in your front yard dont make noise ya good citizens?
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I am sure that for people who think of the greater good, they will not complain. As humans, they have a right to dislike, but they will agree for the benefit of the majority.
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QUOTE(zerol410 @ Jan 29 2015, 08:35 AM)
I am sure that for people who think of the greater good, they will not complain. As humans, they have a right to dislike, but they will agree for the benefit of the majority.
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You would not think like that when u have a highway passing thru your balcony which is like meters away.

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QUOTE(dp82 @ Jan 29 2015, 12:43 PM)
You would not think like that when u have a highway passing thru your balcony which is like meters away.
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Like i mentioned earlier, there is nothing wrong with highway development for the greater KL but it has to be planned properly.

That's why i said earlier, allignment needs to b done. Just try to put urself in their shoes - those folks staying at Emerald etc which is few meters away fr the elevated highway?
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QUOTE(dp82 @ Jan 30 2015, 08:49 PM)
Like i mentioned earlier, there is nothing wrong with highway development for the greater KL but it has to be planned properly.

That's why i said earlier, allignment needs to b done. Just try to put urself in their shoes - those folks staying at Emerald etc which is few meters away fr the elevated highway?
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Alternative way might as well give resident there another type of nightmare, either take this or that, choose 1 of it..
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QUOTE(dp82 @ Jan 30 2015, 08:49 PM)
Like i mentioned earlier, there is nothing wrong with highway development for the greater KL but it has to be planned properly.
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QUOTE(dp82 @ Jan 30 2015, 08:49 PM)
That's why i said earlier, allignment needs to b done. Just try to put urself in their shoes - those folks staying at Emerald etc which is few meters away fr the elevated highway?
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Agreed. But like I said earlier as well, we have a right to dislike, but we have to agree for the benefit of the majority, should there is no better alignment.
To be fair, we also need to put ourselves in the majority people & the developer shoes, not just the affected residents. smile.gif
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Heard that something is cooking now but unsure whether there announcement or back to the drawing board.
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QUOTE(New Klang @ Mar 9 2015, 10:54 PM)
Heard that something is cooking now but unsure whether there announcement or back to the drawing board.
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Be patient. News will be revealed in few months.
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just built it, nuff oredi of this anti-DASH thingy...
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i heard that becoz KIDEX being shelved for now, DASH also laying low until later part of this year.... true aa? :-(
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still no updates on DASH? ON/OFF?

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PJ Council removes Dash highway from local plan pending further study
By Shazwan Mustafa Kamal
Published: April 24, 2015 03:09 PM GMT+8


Say No to Dash previously claimed that Dash highway developer Prolintas Bhd tried to conceal the fact that work on the Dash project has already begun despite no official confirmation from the authorities. ― File pic


KUALA LUMPUR, April 24 ― The Damansara-Shah Alam Expressway (Dash) was removed from the Petaling Jaya 2 Local Plan (RTPJ2) today to allow further studies following widespread public objection over the controversial project.

The Dash highway alignment was originally inserted into the Local Plan earlier last year amid objections from PJ residents.

“Dash highway taken out for more studies to be done.

“For current exercise but (the PJ Council) will study (the matter) further, immediately,” MBPJ councillor Lee Suet Sen told Malay Mail Online when contacted after this morning’s full board council meeting.

The decision today comes despite Works Minister Datuk Fadillah Yusof’s confirmation back in January that Putrajaya has already approved the Dash highway despite objections from lobby group Say No to Dash (SNTD).


“It is the same theory with Kidex and how it cannot been built.

“No local plan approval, no construction of highway,” Lee added, referring to the Kinrara-Damansara Expressway which has been rejected by the Selangor government.

Anti-Dash lobby Say No to Dash (SNTD) previously claimed that Dash highway developer Prolintas Bhd tried to conceal the fact that work on the Dash project has already begun despite no official confirmation from the Works Ministry or the Selangor government.

According to Prolintas, Dash will be a 20.1km, three-lane, dual carriageway expressway starting from Puncak Perdana in Shah Alam to the Penchala interchange.

With 12 interchanges, the RM11.5 billion expressway plans to link drivers to Lebuhraya Damansara Puchong and Sprint highways, which residents claim are already congested during peak hours.

Dash will serve motorists from Puncak Perdana, Alam Suria, Denai Alam, Kampung Melayu Subang, Jalan Sungai Buloh, the Rubber Research Institute Malaysia, Kota Damansara, Damansara Perdana and Mutiara Damansara, Prolintas said.

- See more at: http://m.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/a...h.9AbzzuIU.dpuf

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No Dash .. No votes ..

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hopefully they just modify the alignment in Damansara Perdana area
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QUOTE(Asvita @ Apr 24 2015, 03:55 PM)
PJ Council removes Dash highway from local plan pending further study
By Shazwan Mustafa Kamal
Published: April 24, 2015 03:09 PM GMT+8
Say No to Dash previously claimed that Dash highway developer Prolintas Bhd tried to conceal the fact that work on the Dash project has already begun despite no official confirmation from the authorities. ― File pic
KUALA LUMPUR, April 24 ― The Damansara-Shah Alam Expressway (Dash) was removed from the Petaling Jaya 2 Local Plan (RTPJ2) today to allow further studies following widespread public objection over the controversial project.

The Dash highway alignment was originally inserted into the Local Plan earlier last year amid objections from PJ residents.

“Dash highway taken out for more studies to be done.

“For current exercise but (the PJ Council) will study (the matter) further, immediately,” MBPJ councillor Lee Suet Sen told Malay Mail Online when contacted after this morning’s full board council meeting.

The decision today comes despite Works Minister Datuk Fadillah Yusof’s confirmation back in January that Putrajaya has already approved the Dash highway despite objections from lobby group Say No to Dash (SNTD).
“It is the same theory with Kidex and how it cannot been built.

“No local plan approval, no construction of highway,” Lee added, referring to the Kinrara-Damansara Expressway which has been rejected by the Selangor government.

Anti-Dash lobby Say No to Dash (SNTD) previously claimed that Dash highway developer Prolintas Bhd tried to conceal the fact that work on the Dash project has already begun despite no official confirmation from the Works Ministry or the Selangor government.

According to Prolintas, Dash will be a 20.1km, three-lane, dual carriageway expressway starting from Puncak Perdana in Shah Alam to the Penchala interchange.

With 12 interchanges, the RM11.5 billion expressway plans to link drivers to Lebuhraya Damansara Puchong and Sprint highways, which residents claim are already congested during peak hours.

Dash will serve motorists from Puncak Perdana, Alam Suria, Denai Alam, Kampung Melayu Subang, Jalan Sungai Buloh, the Rubber Research Institute Malaysia, Kota Damansara, Damansara Perdana and Mutiara Damansara, Prolintas said.

- See more at: http://m.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/a...h.9AbzzuIU.dpuf
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Good news to all Damansara Perdana folks. Half d battle is won!
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I'm in Setia Alam and I hope they build Dash.
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please cancel DASH. Let the traffic become bad  to worst in future. During that time, all the anti DASH will regrets bcoz they cant enter/exit their township due to worst traffic flow coming coming thru..
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honestly i support DASH, just some minority making allot of noise. I'm around Puncak Perdana area, and this benefit me allot.
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they really need to change the DP area alignment, if i'm a DP resident i also will oppose since the highway too near to residential area
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they really need to change the DP area alignment, if i'm a DP resident i also will oppose since the highway too near to residential area
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Yes, please be fair.

Please do tunnel for DP parts. then dash can on liao, since a lot of dash supporter, toll rate doesn't matter.

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QUOTE(mingyew @ Apr 28 2015, 12:32 PM)
Yes, please be fair.

Please do tunnel for DP parts. then dash can on liao, since a lot of dash supporter, toll rate doesn't matter.
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Strongly agree with u. At least it won't affect DP residents so badly with d underground alignment under d existing road.
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Projek Lebuh Raya Damansara-Shah Alam (DASH) hanya diluluskan sekiranya mendapat persetujuan semua penduduk di kawasan itu.

Dato’ Menteri Besar, Mohamed Azmin Ali, berkata beliau tidak berhak memberi persetujuan kepada projek lebuh raya itu sekiranya penduduk terus membantah.

Katanya ia selaras dengan dasar pentadbiran baru Kerajaan Selangor yang perlu mendengar keperluan membabitkan rakyat.

“Saya minta Lembaga Lebuh Raya Malaysia (LLM) dan Jabatan Kerja Raya (JKR) turun berjumpa penduduk dan beritahu mereka sebelum Kerajaan Negeri boleh luluskan projek itu.

“Siapa saya untuk tentukan setuju atau tidak? Saya terima arahan daripada rakyat.

“Sama macam isu Lebuhraya Kinrara-Damansara (KIDEX), kalau mereka tak nak maka tak naklah,” katanya selepas melawat Maahad Tarbiyah Islamiyah Al-Ansar, di sini petang tadi.

Mohamed Azmin berkata penduduk di kawasan itu tidak membantah pembinaan DASH, namun mereka mahu supaya pelarasan terakhir lebuh raya berkenaan diubah suai.

Katanya, LLM turut memaklumkan jajaran baru sudah disediakan dan bakal dibentangkan kepada penduduk di situ.

“Tak boleh bandingkan KIDEX dengan DASH sebab KIDEX mereka bantah terus tetapi DASH mereka setuju cuma jajaran akhir itu perlu dibetulkan.

“Saya sudah jumpa menteri dan LLM serta minta mereka tunjuk jajaran baru sebab mereka tidak perlu yakinkan saya, tetapi perlu buat kepada rakyat,” katanya lagi.

http://www.malaysia-today.net/mb-dash-saya...-arahan-rakyat/
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QUOTE(CAFE21 @ Apr 28 2015, 04:34 PM)
Strongly agree with u. At least it won't affect DP residents so badly with d underground alignment under d existing road.
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I have a condo in DP. I support DASH as long as there is re-alignment at DP because just too too near to the condo and the corner is too sharp. Sure the car will fly into one of the condo one day. This project intention is good but implementation is like cock. Typical BN.
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28 April 2015
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Projek Lebuh Raya Damansara-Shah Alam (DASH) hanya diluluskan sekiranya mendapat persetujuan semua penduduk di kawasan itu.

Dato’ Menteri Besar, Mohamed Azmin Ali, berkata beliau tidak berhak memberi persetujuan kepada projek lebuh raya itu sekiranya penduduk terus membantah.

Katanya ia selaras dengan dasar pentadbiran baru Kerajaan Selangor yang perlu mendengar keperluan membabitkan rakyat.

“Saya minta Lembaga Lebuh Raya Malaysia (LLM) dan Jabatan Kerja Raya (JKR) turun berjumpa penduduk dan beritahu mereka sebelum Kerajaan Negeri boleh luluskan projek itu.

“Siapa saya untuk tentukan setuju atau tidak? Saya terima arahan daripada rakyat.

“Sama macam isu Lebuhraya Kinrara-Damansara (KIDEX), kalau mereka tak nak maka tak naklah,” katanya selepas melawat Maahad Tarbiyah Islamiyah Al-Ansar, di sini petang tadi.

Mohamed Azmin berkata penduduk di kawasan itu tidak membantah pembinaan DASH, namun mereka mahu supaya pelarasan terakhir lebuh raya berkenaan diubah suai.

Katanya, LLM turut memaklumkan jajaran baru sudah disediakan dan bakal dibentangkan kepada penduduk di situ.

“Tak boleh bandingkan KIDEX dengan DASH sebab KIDEX mereka bantah terus tetapi DASH mereka setuju cuma jajaran akhir itu perlu dibetulkan.

“Saya sudah jumpa menteri dan LLM serta minta mereka tunjuk jajaran baru sebab mereka tidak perlu yakinkan saya, tetapi perlu buat kepada rakyat,” katanya lagi.

http://www.malaysia-today.net/mb-dash-saya...-arahan-rakyat/
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why you post at dash highway?

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what is the gap between the H/way fence to the condo?

at pandan indah ... the fence between corner lot unit & expended road is only 4 ft.
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This group is getting quite annoying. They should lobby to change the aligned in DP, not call it to be scrapped 100%.

DASH should be built but it must adhere to the standards set.

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QUOTE(urb7 @ May 6 2015, 03:26 PM)
This group is getting quite annoying. They should lobby to change the aligned in DP, not call it to be scrapped 100%.

DASH should be built but it must adhere to the standards set.
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DASH is quite important imho and warrants it to be built for the greater good.

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QUOTE(urb7 @ May 6 2015, 03:26 PM)
This group is getting quite annoying. They should lobby to change the aligned in DP, not call it to be scrapped 100%.

DASH should be built but it must adhere to the standards set.
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Agree if the written in the star is correct they are too much. No compromise with the syarat-syarat they had set, who they tot they are? If gov instead must build what they can do? If i got kuasa i will make the alignment by pass the damansara perdana (as their wish) with direct connect to penchala link but i will take out the access from / to damansara perdana. which mean no access to penchala link from damansara perdana but access to mutira damansara and LDP remain. I don see how much tol can collect from damansara perdana better shut down the interchange to damansara perdana.
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DASH is quite important imho and warrants it to be built for the greater good.
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Agree if the written in the star is correct they are too much. No compromise with the syarat-syarat they had set, who they tot they are? If gov instead must build what they can do? If i got kuasa i will make the alignment by pass the damansara perdana (as their wish) with direct connect to penchala link but i will take out the access from / to damansara perdana. which mean no access to penchala link from damansara perdana but access to mutira damansara and LDP remain. I don see how much tol can collect from damansara perdana better shut down the interchange to damansara perdana.
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ask them not to drive, walk.
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This group is getting quite annoying. They should lobby to change the aligned in DP, not call it to be scrapped 100%.

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As I understand from the article, SNTD isn't asking for DASH to be scrapped, merely that the state remove official plans for DASH to pass by DP until further action (as suggested) is taken. As it stands in state plans, the highway passes in front of people's windows.

"SNTD hereby puts forth the following suggested plan of action following the removal of DASH from RTPJ2.

1. A permanent removal of DASH in the Petaling Jaya Local City Plan 2 (RTPJ2) where Damansara Perdana is concerned.

2. For the full expulsion and removal of all mention of the DASH expressway from the Selangor State Structural Draft Plan 2035 (Draf Rancangan Struktur Negeri 2035) – until there is an agreement on the final alignment by the residents of the affected Damansara Segment.

3. For the Department of Environment Selangor to void the extended Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA).

4. For the concessionaire company (Prolintas) to submit a new independent EIA and Traffic Impact Assessment (TIA) that excludes Damansara Perdana from the entire DASH project.

5. For the concessionaire company (Prolintas) to fulfill the three pre-conditions set by the Selangor government for highway construction namely making the entire agreement signed by the concession company public, stating the toll rate, proposed rate hike as well as rate of returns accrued throughout the entire lifetime of the project, and to show clear evidence that this project will bring substantial benefit not to the consumers of the highway, but to the residents living in the area."

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Good prospect growth of Elmina, Denai Alam and RRI depend on DASH.
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So isn't that a selfish reason for wanting DASH.? Isn't it the same as my selfish reason for not wanting DASH to cut right across the front of my family's condo?

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So isn't that a selfish reason for wanting DASH.? Isn't it the same as my selfish reason for not wanting DASH to cut right across the front of my family's condo?

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habis kalau ada rumah, tak perlu ada highway untuk jalan keluar rumah?
salah siapa buat rumah jauh-jauh tapi tak ada access dan depending dekat jalan heavy traffic?
same concept kalau DP resident tak ada highway untuk keluar rumah.
cuma DASH need to realign. tak payah sampai cancel menyusahkan resident tempat lain
be fair and square
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Sekiranya, tak melalui DP apa kaitan penduduk DP minta prolintas mengemukakan EIA & TIA baru? Gila betul ini SNTD ingat meraka siape? Kerajaan Tampatan ge?

People talking above benefits for populatik up to million.
This SNTD talking their own benefit which only got 10k population. Cheah...
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We will not accept any redesign for DASH, say residents


May 5): The Say No To DASH Damansara Group (SNTD) has reiterated that the residents did not want the Damansara Shah Alam Highway (DASH) to go through the Damansara Perdana neighbourhood in Petaling Jaya.

Its spokesman Alvin Chia said in a statement that the residents had made it clear that they would not accept any redesign of the proposed highway.

Instead, the residents want a permanet removal of DASH from the Petaling Jaya Local Draft Plan 2 where Damansara Perdana was concerned.

"(We want) the full expulsion and removal of all mention of the DASH expressway from the Selangor State Structural Draft Plan 2035 until there is an agreement on the final alignment by the residents of the affected Damansara segment," Chia said.

SNTD also urged the Department of Environment Selangor to void the extended Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA) for the project.

Chia said the concessionaire company (Prolintas) should submit a new independent EIA
and Traffic Impact Assessment (TIA) that excludes Damansara Perdana from the entire DASH project.

"(We want) the concessionaire company (Prolintas) to fulfil the three pre-conditions set by the Selangor government for highway construction namely making the entire agreement signed by the concession company public, stating the toll rate, proposed rate hike as well as rate of returns accrued throughout the entire lifetime of the project, and to show clear evidence that this project will bring substantial benefit not to the consumers of the highway, but to the residents living in the area.

"These measures, once performed will be consistent with the Selangor government’s stance of good governance, transparency and accountability.

"This will result in a more consultative, inclusive and people-centric government. Elected representatives, councillors and civil servants are elected to represent the people’s interests and hence, to listen to the rakyat they serve," Chia said. – The Malaysian Insider
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We will not accept any redesign for DASH, say residents


Its spokesman Alvin Chia said in a statement that the residents had made it clear that they would not accept any redesign of the proposed highway.

Instead, the residents want a permanet removal of DASH from the Petaling Jaya Local Draft Plan 2 where Damansara Perdana was concerned.

tak bagi ruang utk perbincangan[B[COLOR=red]]


SNTD also urged the Department of Environment Selangor to void the extended Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA) for the project.

bagi arahan kpd agensi kerajaan lagi.[cool.gif[COLOR=red]

Chia said the concessionaire company (Prolintas) should submit a new independent EIA
and Traffic Impact Assessment (TIA) that excludes Damansara Perdana from the entire DASH project.

Apa kaitan dgn mereka sekira DASH tak melalui DP?[cool.gif[COLOR=red]

"(We want) the concessionaire company (Prolintas) to fulfil the three pre-conditions set by the Selangor government for highway construction namely making the entire agreement signed by the concession company public, stating the toll rate, proposed rate hike as well as rate of returns accrued throughout the entire lifetime of the project, and to show clear evidence that this project will bring substantial benefit not to the consumers of the highway, but to the residents living in the area.

Sememang suara kerajaan, tak mematuhi syarat ditetap akan kenal balas?[cool.gif[COLOR=red]

"These measures, once performed will be consistent with the Selangor government’s stance of good governance, transparency and accountability.

"This will result in a more consultative, inclusive and people-centric government. Elected representatives, councillors and civil servants are elected to represent the people’s interests and hence, to listen to the rakyat they serve," Chia said. – The Malaysian Insider

Suara cam org politik lagi. Nak I bagi undi kenal ikut[COLOR=red] cara saya.[cool.gif

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We will not accept any redesign for DASH, say residents


Its spokesman Alvin Chia said in a statement that the residents had made it clear that they would not accept any redesign of the proposed highway.

Instead, the residents want a permanet removal of DASH from the Petaling Jaya Local Draft Plan 2 where Damansara Perdana was concerned.

tak bagi ruang utk perbincangan


SNTD also urged the Department of Environment Selangor to void the extended Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA) for the project.

bagi arahan kpd agensi kerajaan lagi

Chia said the concessionaire company (Prolintas) should submit a new independent EIA
and Traffic Impact Assessment (TIA) that excludes Damansara Perdana from the entire DASH project.

Apa kaitan dgn mereka sekiranya DASH tak melalui DP?

"(We want) the concessionaire company (Prolintas) to fulfil the three pre-conditions set by the Selangor government for highway construction namely making the entire agreement signed by the concession company public, stating the toll rate, proposed rate hike as well as rate of returns accrued throughout the entire lifetime of the project, and to show clear evidence that this project will bring substantial benefit not to the consumers of the highway, but to the residents living in the area.

Sememang cam suara kerajaan, tak mematuhi syarat ditetap akan kenal balas?

"These measures, once performed will be consistent with the Selangor government’s stance of good governance, transparency and accountability.

"This will result in a more consultative, inclusive and people-centric government. Elected representatives, councillors and civil servants are elected to represent the people’s interests and hence, to listen to the rakyat they serve," Chia said. – The Malaysian Insider

Suara cam org politik lagi. Nak I bagi undi kenal ikut cara saya.

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So isn't that a selfish reason for wanting DASH.? Isn't it the same as my selfish reason for not wanting DASH to cut right across the front of my family's condo?

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DASH is using the road reserved in front of their condo; not acquiring their land or unit. sharing (road reserved) is selfish???
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I think many PR voters r kicking themselves after the cancellation of KIDEX and nw pobably DASH ...the Star paper used to play champion and highlight the "say no to kidex" protesters...how on earth the new MB justify his decision reason protect interest of the rakyat But he must remeber the majority wants and needs both kidex and dash except for those selfish few who happned to lived near...funny they have no poblem using other highways that oso cut across residential areas
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I think most residents welcome improvements on the haphazard route design.
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I think many PR voters r kicking themselves after the cancellation of KIDEX and nw pobably DASH ...the Star paper used to play champion and highlight the "say no to kidex" protesters...how on earth the new MB justify his decision reason protect interest of the rakyat But he must remeber the majority wants and needs both kidex and dash except for those selfish few who happned to lived near...funny they have no poblem using other highways that oso cut across residential areas
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http://www.sarawakreport.org/2015/04/the-p...nection-expose/

Have a read above to know that highways in Malaysia are not always built in the best interest of the Rakyat.

From the above report, the government practice of appointing so-called ‘main contractors’ to ‘project manage’ major developments has quite rightly raised considerable criticism in Malaysia and Sarawak.

Particularly when these middlemen have been appointed without any open tendering for the job.

This is because it has become a great way for politically connected companies to skim off vast tranches of the public money awarded to government projects, before sub-contracting the jobs to actual construction companies.

Currently, the DASH highway is based on flawed TIA and EIA reports to start with. So, why the rush to start it n doing it not according to correct procedure??

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DASH is using the road reserved in front of their condo; not acquiring their land or unit. sharing (road reserved) is selfish???
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Say No To Dash group mulls legal action over highway alignment
BY NOEL ACHARIAM

Published: 22 May 2015 8:49 AM

Petaling Jaya councillor Peter Chong signing the petition to be handed to Selangor Menteri Besar Mohamed Azmin Ali. – The Malaysian Insider pic by Noel Achariam, May 22, 2015.


The Say No to Dash (SNTD) group is prepared to take legal action against concessionaire Projek Lintasan Kota (Prolintas) and the government if the alignment for the Damansara-Shah Alam expressway(DASH) project is not changed.

They reiterated their stand that they don't want the highway passing through their housing scheme in Damansara Perdana, Petaling Jaya, Selangor.

The residents also want Selangor Menteri Besar Mohamed Azmin Ali to listen to the grouses of the residents.


SNTD spokesperson Michelle Wong said they would not compromise by having further discussions with the authorities on DASH.
"Only if there's a discussion on realignment. If it's just redesign of the project, then there is no point," she said.

Wong said that the group was currently seeking legal counsel to prepare the paper work and ground work needed should they have to pursue legal action.

"We are already in the midst of discussions with our lawyer in the eventuality that the alignment is not changed and it goes through Damansara Perdana.

"Now, we leave it to the Selangor state government to decide," she said at a briefing with Damansara Perdana residents last night.

Wong hopes that Azmin could give an assurance that the alignment would be altered.

"We hope that Azmin keeps his word that if the residents object to the alignment then the project will not pass though our residences. We hope that he will look into our grouses," she said.

Wong also said that they had organised their last petition drive last night. They would be presenting the petition to Azmin today.

"We have been sending our petitions to the Malaysian Highway Authority the Works Minister and Menteri Besar's office. Now, it is back to the Selangor state government to make a decision on this issue," she said.

Bukit Lanjan assemblyman Elizabeth Wong who attended the briefing said that Azmin had agreed during a meeting that the alignment of DASH should not be included in the Petaling Jaya Local Plan (RTPJ2).

The residents had objected to the DASH since 2012 as it was too close to residential homes in the area, with some sections barely 30 metres away.

DASH, costing about RM4 billion, will be a 20.1 km, three-lane, dual carriageway expressway. Among the proposed route for it are Shah Alam's Puncak Perdana U10, Alam Suria, Denai Alam, Kampung Melayu Subang, Rubber Research Institute Malaysia, Kota Damansara, Mutiara Damansara and Damansara Perdana.

It will then link users to Lebuhraya Damansara Puchong (LDP) and Sprint highways.

The expressway will also serve motorists from Puncak Perdana, Alam Suria, Denai Alam, Kampung Melayu Subang, Jalan Sungai Buloh, the Rubber Research Institute Malaysia, Kota Damansara, Damansara Perdana and Mutiara Damansara. – May 22, 2015.


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For those who say YES to DASH, feel free to sign the petition.

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For those who say YES to DASH, feel free to sign the petition.

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Wonder whether government still has the fund to start the project.
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Wonder whether government still has the fund to start the project.
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http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/citynew...L.CZlEh9hF.dpbs

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We will wait for Selangor’s decision on expressway, says anti-DASH group

BY NOEL ACHARIAM
Published: 27 June 2015 4:59 PM

Residents in the Damansara Perdana area are against the DASH expressway which they said was too close to their homes. – The Malaysian Insider file pic, June 27, 2015.
Residents in the Damansara Perdana area are against the DASH expressway which they said was too close to their homes. – The Malaysian Insider file pic, June 27, 2015.
The Say No to DASH (SNTD) group will wait for the Selangor government's decision on whether the Damansara-Shah Alam (DASH) expressway project will start next year.

SNTD adviser Mak Khuin Weng said in a statement that the DASH project by Projek Lintasan Kota Holdings Sdn Bhd (Prolintas) had yet to be included in the Petaling Jaya Local Plan 2.

"Prolintas can expect to start work next year, but I expect them to never start work at all. Expectations are just that.


"Prolintas does not have approval from the Selangor government to proceed and the Petaling Jaya Local Plan 2 has not been amended to include the highway," he said.

Mak, a former Petaling Jaya councillor, said that until all the legal matters had been addressed by the government, the project would not be able to take off.

He was responding to a report in The Malaysian Insider this morning which quoted Prolintas group chief executive Datuk Zainudin A. Kadir as saying that construction of the expressway was expected to start in March next year.

Zainudin had said at a buka puasa event yesterday that the company was waiting for the alignment to be included into the draft plan by the local authorities.

"The Shah Alam City Council has included the alignment into the plan and we are now waiting for the Petaling Jaya City Council (to do the same). Once it is included in the plan, we can start construction," he had said.

Zainudin had also announced that Prolintas would be building a dedicated RM50 million ramp from Damansara Perdana Jalan 8/1, in Petaling Jaya, Selangor, to Penchala Link for the convenience of residents.

"This ramp is not part of the DASH project but we are building it for the residents there. This is an additional cost for us and there will also be no toll charges," he had said.

Zainudin had said Prolintas would also be erecting two sound barrier tubes in front of Emerald Perdana condominium and Ritz Perdana condominium in Damasara Perdana.

Mak said Prolintas did not give SNTD their proposal for the sound barriers and a ramp at Damansara Perdana Jalan 8/1 to Penchala Link in writing.

"They 'proposed' verbally and showed us slides. We asked for black and white, including data on noise pollution and traffic studies to justify their 'proposal'. We also asked if their proposal was approved by either the federal or Selangor government.

"They could not give us a proposal in black and white, which legally means there was no proposal at all. How can we consider a proposal that was never formally tendered to us to be presented to the public for consideration?" he said.

Say No To DASH adviser Mak Khuin Weng says they did not receive the proposals in writing from Prolintas. – The Malaysian Insider file pic, June 27, 2015.
Say No To DASH adviser Mak Khuin Weng says they did not receive the proposals in writing from Prolintas. – The Malaysian Insider file pic, June 27, 2015.
Mak said that if Prolintas was confident that their proposals were good, they would publish everything online for everyone to see, not just show some slides to SNTD committee members and consider that a proposal.

He also claimed that there was no about turn by SNTD on its stand not to allow DASH to pass through Damansara Perdana.

"We made it clear we are against the expressway coming through Damansara Perdana and we are only interested in alignment and nothing else," he said.

Mak said that SNTD was consulting a lawyer on the legal issues.

"The lawyer is still advising us on a friendly basis and not incurring a fee while we compile the paperwork.

"When the time is right, we will announce a fundraiser campaign. We do not wish to announce the details prematurely and confuse the residents if things change midway.

"It is a lot to do and we are all volunteers, so please be patient," he said adding that there are laws like the Town and Country Planning Act that protects the people's rights and Prolintas is not above the law.

The residents had objected to DASH since 2012 because it was too close to residential homes in the area, with some barely 30 metres away from the expressway.

DASH, costing about RM4 billion, will be a 20.1 km, three-lane, dual carriageway expressway. Among the proposed route for it are Shah Alam's Puncak Perdana U10, Alam Suria, Denai Alam, Kampung Melayu Subang, Rubber Research Institute Malaysia, Kota Damansara, Mutiara Damansara and Damansara Perdana.

It will then link users to Lebuhraya Damansara Puchong (LDP) and Sprint highways.

The expressway will also serve motorists from Puncak Perdana, Alam Suria, Denai Alam, Kampung Melayu Subang, Jalan Sungai Buloh, the Rubber Research Institute Malaysia, Kota Damansara, Damansara Perdana and Mutiara Damansara. – June 27, 2015.
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Well done asvita and sntd group! Keep it up! No dash running through dp! Why don't they run it through another estate.
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For about RM4 billion amount, it is fair to assume that Prolintas can spend some budget to do more study on various route options that are satisfactory.

The news article omitted Elmina which is the biggest proposed township of 8k acres.

Without DASH, I cannot foresee good road connectivity for at least a future population of 300k.
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If selangor govt want to abolish Dash ... then they must build other road to support the traffic from pck alam, saujaan utama & elmina.

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Peoples are good at object the solution but never provide a better solution, just say re-align to other estate, fine... where to ?
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Peoples are good at object the solution but never provide a better solution, just say re-align to other estate, fine... where to ?
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their answer is simple , re-aligned somewhere else , anywhere else as long as "IT does not affect me " - See the main reason ? Simple isn't it. Remove the selfish attitude , and life is a better place to be.

You have to build a highway on roads / places , someone or somewhere is going to be shafted. People need to wake up on it , and accept the fact that they most important scenario to consider , is the lowest cost possible without sacrificing too much.

Once economic reasons are address , we can then think about the rest of the impact. However , people living in those areas affected can only think about themselves.

Nothing you or me say in this forum will ever change the way they think , coz they are selfish. ( selfish people do not liked to be called selfish - they will defend themselves. )

They will say - wait till it happens to you , then you will know.

Again , this is a preposition , where no one can answer. So suck it up , and life goes on. A highway is build in the area you are staying , and it's not to your liking. So shift. Period.
You can't change the problem , walk out of the jurisdiction , and your life becomes better.


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Sime Darby Property needs to do something since the sales brochures indicated DASH.

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DASH approved by Selangor State Government but will consult residents on the protested area

DASH Approved
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DASH approved by Selangor State Government but will consult residents on the protested area

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DASH approved by Selangor State Government but will consult residents on the protested area

DASH Approved
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DASH approved by Selangor State Government but will consult residents on the protested area

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Damansara-Shah Alam Highway (DASH) alignment partly approved

http://www.theedgeproperty.com/my/content/...partly-approved

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Yes.

Only 2 areas not confirmed due to resident protest.
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You should be glad that protests make a difference. One day you'll need to speak up against something you feel is important to you then you'll feel differently.
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You should be glad that protests make a difference. One day you'll need to speak up against something you feel is important to you then you'll feel differently.
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You're right. I am glad about protest do gets some weights in. However it doesn't change the fact that people are only looking out for their own interest.


Never see the Damansara folks going to campaign for realignment of MEX highway last time , or any other ( coz it does not affect them )

If you wanna protest for the better of the people , do it all and don't be selective.
It's like if you're a environmentalist , you're going to campaign for things that affects environment , and not issues happening around your neighbourhood only.

People just have to sulk it up , when they are called selfish - and accept that cause they really are.
If we want to protest , better use it for things like Bersih rally or something for a better cause ( for the bettermen of Malaysia overall )
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i'm dash and kidex supporter because of the people benefit.

at first, i'm agree on the protest of mutiara damansara but later on when these people became unreasonable anymore, i had put their shoe as "selfish"

the fact is: they are not asking for solution but stubborn that want a totally new re-align at all glance.
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QUOTE(New Klang @ Jun 29 2015, 09:11 AM)
Sime Darby Property needs to do something since the sales brochures indicated DASH.

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good news to clear some traffic and to boost the plenty developments there!

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Previous govt failed to plan.

Selangor will see population increase 3 fold in coming years. All existing plantation land are potential townships.

Funny situation. CBJ population low but have good highways connection.

Depends on the ruling state govt.

Vote wisely.

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Hopefully Selangor government can achieve win-win situation for all of us. In Azmin we trust...haha
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QUOTE(elmond @ Jun 30 2015, 09:49 AM)
i'm dash and kidex supporter because of the people benefit.

at first, i'm agree on the protest of mutiara damansara but later on when these people became unreasonable anymore, i had put their shoe as "selfish"

the fact is: they are not asking for solution but stubborn that want a totally new re-align at all glance.
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For Bukit Jelutong residents... do we enter from the Denai Alam toll? Exiting Bukit Jelutong there is a Guthrie highway that cost RM1.30++ (?) does that mean we have to pay for 2 tolls just to use 1 highway (Dash)?

And do we know if they will be using ticketing system (like PLUS) or pay on the spot (like LDP)?
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QUOTE(PACINO @ Jun 29 2015, 03:53 PM)
their answer is simple , re-aligned somewhere else , anywhere else as long as "IT does not affect me " - See the main reason ? Simple isn't it. Remove the selfish attitude , and life is a better place to be.

You have to build a highway on roads / places  , someone or somewhere is going to be shafted. People need to wake up on it , and accept the fact that they most important scenario to consider , is the lowest cost possible without sacrificing too much.

Once economic reasons are address , we can then think about the rest of the impact. However , people living in those areas affected can only think about themselves.

Nothing you or me say in this forum will ever change the way they think , coz they are selfish. ( selfish people do not liked to be called selfish - they will defend themselves. )

They will say - wait till it happens to you , then you will know.

Again , this is a preposition , where no one can answer. So suck it up , and life goes on. A highway is build in the area you are staying , and it's not to your liking. So shift. Period.
You can't change the problem , walk out of the jurisdiction , and your life becomes better.
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jun 30 2015, 07:17 PM)
For Bukit Jelutong residents... do we enter from the Denai Alam toll? Exiting Bukit Jelutong there is a Guthrie highway that cost RM1.30++ (?) does that mean we have to pay for 2 tolls just to use 1 highway (Dash)?

And do we know if they will be using ticketing system (like PLUS) or pay on the spot (like LDP)?
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toll will use open system, likes GCE.

initial design, no access from GCE that heading north direction, i think there don't have any reason for bukit jelutong user to not using NKVE for KL destination.

initial design for denai alam to kwasa, there are one toll, if from denai alam to penchala link, there are two tolls

initial design for puncak alam to kwasa, there are one toll, if from puncak alam to penchala link, there are two tolls

initial design, total 3 tolls been built but only need to paid from one (persiaran surian or kota damansara exit) to two tolls, so one can assume the denai alam toll (from puncak alam) will be higher thna the rest of two.

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Elmond, does this mean denai-an need to go out to gce n u-turn at elmina overhead bridge , then come down to access dash ?
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Elmond, does this mean denai-an need to go out to gce n u-turn at elmina overhead bridge , then come down to access dash ?
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initial design, denai alam need to travel until nearby mahsing to go into dash highway.

the initial design was a bit weird, GCE and DASH interchange only 1 exit (from puncak alam to denai alam or GCE) and 1 entry (from GCE north direction to puncak alam)
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DASH taken out of RTPJ 2
Posted on 27 July 2015 - 06:17pm
Last updated on 27 July 2015 - 07:21pm
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PETALING JAYA: The Damansara-Shah Alam Highway (DASH) has been taken out of the PJ Local Plan 2 (RTPJ2) pending a realignment proposal by Prolintas, the concessionaire.

Selangor state executive councillor for environment Elizabeth Wong said the decision was made by Mentri Besar Mohamed Azmin Ali due to objections from residents in Mutiara Damansara and Damansara Perdana.

"They (residents) met the Mentri Besar and he agreed to remove it (Dash). It's no longer in RTPJ2," Elizabeth said.

She said the residents are pushing to make the removal permanent and among the objections raised were flawed and outdated Environment and Traffic Impact Assessments (EIA and TIA).

Approached after a proposal hearing for the RTPJ2, Say No To DASH (SNTD) spokesperson Michelle Wong said the assessment reports were not independent as they were both commissioned and paid for by concessionaire Prolintas.

This is despite guidelines from the Economic Planning Unit of the Prime Minister's Department stating that Prolintas should have conducted an independent Strategic Environmental Assessment (SEA).

Furthermore, Michelle said, the studies were both conducted in 2011 and approved in 2012, which was then extended to 2016 upon its expiry in November 2014 by the Selangor Environment Department.

"The EIA remains as it was in 2012, but we have had new roads, new houses, and the MRT here now. How can they say the environment is still the same after all that?" she told reporters.

In Prolintas' TIA, she also pointed out the company did not provide any evidence to its claim that 50,000 cars from other roads in the area will be using DASH upon completion.

Additionally, Michelle said, the MRT will provide access to the Rubber Research Institute (RRI) and Kota Damansara near there, rendering the highway redundant.

"Basically this highway has no apparent benefit whatsoever. Why do you need another highway when there will be public transport in the future?" she asked.

Michelle said SNTD is not against development, but it should come with due process and not at the cost of posing serious health risks and other dangers to the local populace.

- See more at: http://m.thesundaily.my/node/321542#sthash.ZOsJPMSD.dpuf
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QUOTE(elmond @ Jun 30 2015, 07:33 PM)
toll will use open system, likes GCE.

initial design, no access from GCE that heading north direction, i think there don't have any reason for bukit jelutong user to not using NKVE for KL destination.

initial design for denai alam to kwasa, there are one toll, if from denai alam to penchala link, there are two tolls

initial design for puncak alam to kwasa, there are one toll, if from puncak alam to penchala link, there are two tolls

initial design, total 3 tolls been built but only need to paid from one (persiaran surian or kota damansara exit) to two tolls, so one can assume the denai alam toll (from puncak alam) will be higher thna the rest of two.
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Haiya... No chance to connect to penchala link/ldp now? Would love to see that interchange being more complicated

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So no go now? I thought they already approved DASH?
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DASH taken out of RTPJ 2
Posted on 27 July 2015 - 06:17pm
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PETALING JAYA: The Damansara-Shah Alam Highway (DASH) has been taken out of the PJ Local Plan 2 (RTPJ2) pending a realignment proposal by Prolintas, the concessionaire.

Selangor state executive councillor for environment Elizabeth Wong said the decision was made by Mentri Besar Mohamed Azmin Ali due to objections from residents in Mutiara Damansara and Damansara Perdana.

"They (residents) met the Mentri Besar and he agreed to remove it (Dash). It's no longer in RTPJ2," Elizabeth said.

She said the residents are pushing to make the removal permanent and among the objections raised were flawed and outdated Environment and Traffic Impact Assessments (EIA and TIA).

Approached after a proposal hearing for the RTPJ2, Say No To DASH (SNTD) spokesperson Michelle Wong said the assessment reports were not independent as they were both commissioned and paid for by concessionaire Prolintas.

This is despite guidelines from the Economic Planning Unit of the Prime Minister's Department stating that Prolintas should have conducted an independent Strategic Environmental Assessment (SEA).

Furthermore, Michelle said, the studies were both conducted in 2011 and approved in 2012, which was then extended to 2016 upon its expiry in November 2014 by the Selangor Environment Department.

"The EIA remains as it was in 2012, but we have had new roads, new houses, and the MRT here now. How can they say the environment is still the same after all that?" she told reporters.

In Prolintas' TIA, she also pointed out the company did not provide any evidence to its claim that 50,000 cars from other roads in the area will be using DASH upon completion.

Additionally, Michelle said, the MRT will provide access to the Rubber Research Institute (RRI) and Kota Damansara near there, rendering the highway redundant.

"Basically this highway has no apparent benefit whatsoever. Why do you need another highway when there will be public transport in the future?" she asked.

Michelle said SNTD is not against development, but it should come with due process and not at the cost of posing serious health risks and other dangers to the local populace.

- See more at: http://m.thesundaily.my/node/321542#sthash.ZOsJPMSD.dpuf
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DASH still on Shah Alam plan, only remove MBPJ part only. hopefully they can realign with win-win scenario
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Nkve kota damansara - - - > pju 7/7 - - - > pju 7/1( steep climb here though) --->penchala interchange seems viable
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QUOTE(silentsunami @ Jul 27 2015, 11:05 PM)
DASH still on Shah Alam plan, only remove MBPJ part only. hopefully they can realign with win-win scenario
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I think the highway is good to disperse the high traffic from SA to PJ. But the portion at the Mutiara Damansra and DP really a No No!!! Too near to the houses and the condo.... If they can realign it, it will be good...
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QUOTE(rickyro @ Jul 27 2015, 11:46 PM)
Nkve kota damansara - - - > pju 7/7 - - - > pju 7/1( steep climb here though) --->penchala interchange seems  viable
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that is original plan before mrt use the persiaran surian
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I have no pretensions about being noble for the greater good. I am openly declaring myself Selfish. NIMBY.

Say NO to DASH. Residents of DP, continue your efforts to protest DASH! Do not be cowed by people who call you selfish, because I am 100% certain that if the highway passes by their apartment window and has no benefit to them (for example, it doesn't join up to their house in shah alam, for instance), they too will protest. All human beings are inherently selfish and greedy and some downright self-righteous. This is human nature. There is absolutely nothing wrong to protest this kaw kaw if you don't like it.

So protest if you don't like it! It is your right as a citizen, property owner and resident!

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that is original plan before mrt use the persiaran surian
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Persiaran surian would have been avoided at the route, but would be dual carriageway only at pju 7/7.. unless they put a tunnel through the bukit lanjan range..
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I think the highway is good to disperse the high traffic from SA to PJ. But the portion at the Mutiara Damansra and DP really a No No!!! Too near to the houses and the condo.... If they can realign it, it will be good...
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protest it all the way, bro. No need to be shy about it. It is too blardy near la.

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DASH taken out of RTPJ 2
Posted on 27 July 2015 - 06:17pm
Last updated on 27 July 2015 - 07:21pm
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PETALING JAYA: The Damansara-Shah Alam Highway (DASH) has been taken out of the PJ Local Plan 2 (RTPJ2) pending a realignment proposal by Prolintas, the concessionaire.

Selangor state executive councillor for environment Elizabeth Wong said the decision was made by Mentri Besar Mohamed Azmin Ali due to objections from residents in Mutiara Damansara and Damansara Perdana.

"They (residents) met the Mentri Besar and he agreed to remove it (Dash). It's no longer in RTPJ2," Elizabeth said.

She said the residents are pushing to make the removal permanent and among the objections raised were flawed and outdated Environment and Traffic Impact Assessments (EIA and TIA).

Approached after a proposal hearing for the RTPJ2, Say No To DASH (SNTD) spokesperson Michelle Wong said the assessment reports were not independent as they were both commissioned and paid for by concessionaire Prolintas.

This is despite guidelines from the Economic Planning Unit of the Prime Minister's Department stating that Prolintas should have conducted an independent Strategic Environmental Assessment (SEA).

Furthermore, Michelle said, the studies were both conducted in 2011 and approved in 2012, which was then extended to 2016 upon its expiry in November 2014 by the Selangor Environment Department.

"The EIA remains as it was in 2012, but we have had new roads, new houses, and the MRT here now. How can they say the environment is still the same after all that?" she told reporters.

In Prolintas' TIA, she also pointed out the company did not provide any evidence to its claim that 50,000 cars from other roads in the area will be using DASH upon completion.

Additionally, Michelle said, the MRT will provide access to the Rubber Research Institute (RRI) and Kota Damansara near there, rendering the highway redundant.

"Basically this highway has no apparent benefit whatsoever. Why do you need another highway when there will be public transport in the future?" she asked.

Michelle said SNTD is not against development, but it should come with due process and not at the cost of posing serious health risks and other dangers to the local populace.

- See more at: http://m.thesundaily.my/node/321542#sthash.ZOsJPMSD.dpuf
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QUOTE(corleone74 @ Jul 28 2015, 09:35 AM)
protest it all the way, bro. No need to be shy about it. It is too blardy near la.
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Bro... Thanks... We are not against development but against stupid project that put highway right in front of your house that only benefit the cronies but not the people...
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QUOTE(corleone74 @ Jul 28 2015, 09:26 AM)
I have no pretensions about being noble for the greater good. I am openly declaring myself Selfish. NIMBY.

Say NO to DASH. Residents of DP, continue your efforts to protest DASH! Do not be cowed by people who call you selfish, because I am 100% certain that if the highway passes by their apartment window and has no benefit to them (for example, it doesn't join up to their house in shah alam, for instance), they too will protest. All human beings are inherently selfish and greedy and some downright self-righteous. This is human nature. There is absolutely nothing wrong to protest this kaw kaw if you don't like it.

So protest if you don't like it! It is your right as a citizen, property owner and resident!
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Those who are supporting it also selfish what tongue.gif let's be real - they think their houses in shah alam will appreciate because of it.

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Another thing to consider is, DASH is being built on a flawed Traffic impact assessment n environmental impact assessment. This should not be allowed as it reflects poor governance by the authorities.. The rakyat should stand against projects thAt is built on shortcut!
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QUOTE(tangtang22 @ Jul 28 2015, 01:39 PM)
Another thing to consider is, DASH is being built on a flawed Traffic impact assessment n environmental impact assessment. This should not be allowed as it reflects poor governance by the authorities.. The rakyat should stand against projects thAt is built on shortcut!
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QUOTE(tangtang22 @ Jul 28 2015, 01:39 PM)
Another thing to consider is, DASH is being built on a flawed Traffic impact assessment n environmental impact assessment. This should not be allowed as it reflects poor governance by the authorities.. The rakyat should stand against projects thAt is built on shortcut!
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Well people with self interest will not be able to see it this way. By hook or by crook they want dash.
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QUOTE(tangtang22 @ Jul 28 2015, 01:39 PM)
Another thing to consider is, DASH is being built on a flawed Traffic impact assessment n environmental impact assessment. This should not be allowed as it reflects poor governance by the authorities.. The rakyat should stand against projects thAt is built on shortcut!
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it was prepared by consultant/specialist.
she said flaw, you believed. rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(Wiredx @ Jul 29 2015, 07:59 AM)
Well people with self interest will not be able to see it this way. By hook or by crook they want dash.
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haha.. have you read the report?
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haha.. have you read the report?
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Typical Malaysian la...
When wanna comment something, automatic become specialist LOL!!

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QUOTE(mroys@lyn @ Jul 29 2015, 08:19 AM)
haha.. have you read the report?
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QUOTE(mroys@lyn @ Jul 29 2015, 08:19 AM)
haha.. have you read the report?
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What do you think of the report?
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i read the report, so professional.

only because of our weak state government management not dare to take good action for the future
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QUOTE(ykit_88 @ Jul 29 2015, 08:27 AM)
Typical Malaysian la...
When wanna comment something, automatic become specialist LOL!!
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No one claimed to be a specialist lol typical malaysian with poor reading comprehension.
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QUOTE(Wiredx @ Jul 29 2015, 10:23 AM)
No one claimed to be a specialist lol typical malaysian with poor reading comprehension.
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that's correct, how is she able to quote that it is a flawed report?
at the most, she can claimed that it's a dated report and may request for an updated report.
traffic report normally takes into consideration existing development, known planned development and also adjustment for growth of vehicles/ridership.

while it's painful and inconvenienced some parties, but in terms of overall good, the bigger picture must prevail.

i am all for dash even though i may not use the highway at all.
i think it's a crucial development to link damansara north with shah alam.
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QUOTE(ykit_88 @ Jul 29 2015, 10:25 AM)
then don't comment like a specialist la
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My brief comment sounded like I'm acting like a specialist to you? Lol okay
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Just provide an alternative for Shah Alam people a alternative way to Damansara and KL. There is no MRT line to the place anyway, unlike Sugai Buloh, Dmansara, and Subang.

https://www.change.org/p/the-damansara-shah...he-dash-project

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QUOTE(kelvinfixx @ Jul 29 2015, 10:38 AM)
Just provide an alternative for Shah Alam people a alternative way to Damansara and KL. There is no MRT line to the place anyway, not like Sugai Buloh, Dmansara, and Subang.
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There are sufficient links from Shah alam to damansara or KL city. how many do they need? You have nkve, kesas, elite, guthrie thru sg buloh/subang all providing direct or indirect connections. Die die must enter damansara direct kah? Only to be caught in another massive bottleneck?
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QUOTE(Wiredx @ Jul 29 2015, 10:45 AM)
There are sufficient links from Shah alam to damansara or KL city. how many do they need? You have nkve, kesas, elite, guthrie thru sg buloh/subang all providing direct or indirect connections. Die die must enter damansara direct kah? Only to be caught in another massive bottleneck?
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If not highway, then MRT also OK for me. I don't want direct to Damansara, I want direct to my office.

I don't want highway, I want free route.

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QUOTE(kelvinfixx @ Jul 29 2015, 10:52 AM)
If not highway, then MRT also OK for me. I don't want direct to Damansara, I want direct to my office.

I don't want highway, I want free route.
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Unfortunately something like dash will never be toll-free. I would also prefer mrt over another highway
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Can someone share the link of the traffic assessment report please? Thanks~~
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Is there any Say Yes to Dash facebook page?
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QUOTE(Wiredx @ Jul 29 2015, 10:45 AM)
There are sufficient links from Shah alam to damansara or KL city. how many do they need? You have nkve, kesas, elite, guthrie thru sg buloh/subang all providing direct or indirect connections. Die die must enter damansara direct kah? Only to be caught in another massive bottleneck?
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still not enough .. either build new h/way or must build new trunk road to the existing h/way, for people from puncak alam, saujana utama & bs coalfield
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I am sure residents in Damansara Perdana agree with the building of DASH not too close to their dwelling.

From now on property developers should be responsible not to show indication of DASH on their promotional materials.
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QUOTE(kelvinfixx @ Jul 29 2015, 10:38 AM)
Just provide an alternative for Shah Alam people a alternative way to Damansara and KL. There is no MRT line to the place anyway, unlike Sugai Buloh, Dmansara, and Subang.

https://www.change.org/p/the-damansara-shah...he-dash-project
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To supporters of DASH, please sign and spread this online petition. Previously, the petition have been printed and submitted to MBPj with over 5,000 signatures.

https://www.change.org/p/the-damansara-shah...he-dash-project


You can also join this FB group to show your support and follow the updates by the RA representatives regarding this matter:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/469194479924767/?fref=ts


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Pity those who wished for DASH. Just visit the facebook page to know more.

I suggest the highway company buy over the condo units at Damansara Perdana at satisfactory price and demolish it so that wider access for the highway can be achieved.

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Dash has been principally approved . Just that the md/Dp part is being contested , and it is being contested in a proper way.

Hope ppl here will be objective as doesn't matter which end of the highway , all the rakyats rights r being exercised n opinion are being fairly expressed. Example , Shah Alam side wanted it n MBSA had approved it while md side dun want it n the local council has considered their concerns. That's how local governance should be n not just bulldoze through projects, can u imagine how chaotic it will be if such practices r allowed of ignoring the residents views ?

U just can't barge into someone's house n destroy it, it's just not right! Morally n technically. U need to seek a least some form of consents. Isn't that supposed to be if we all want a better Malaysia ?






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I just dun understand why some of u guys like highways so much? We know that it can help to ease the traffics but your really like to pay toll so much? The highways only will benefit the developers at the end and you will suffer on paying tolls.

Soonest or later the new highways will become congested so the demand for highways will never end. This is not a solution!
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QUOTE(Darian84 @ Jul 29 2015, 05:46 PM)
I just dun understand why some of u guys like highways so much? We know that it can help to ease the traffics but your really like to pay toll so much? The highways only will benefit the developers at the end and you will suffer on paying tolls.

Soonest or later the new highways will become congested so the demand for highways will never end. This is not a solution!
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Well said.
We don't really need so much highways.
Just cut down the traffic would be the better solution.

So from now on please DON'T DRIVE YOUR CAR out.
Don't contribute to the already-congested-traffic.
Walk to the nearest MRT/LRT/KTM. cool2.gif cool2.gif


Ok stop being sarcastic.

We need more public transport/highways to ease the traffic.
To cut down the car volume we need proper big scale system, i.e. efficient public transport, controlled car volume.
Better infrastructure will need to be built.
Government/authority will need to step in, and funds as well.

Before all these idealism materialize traffic jam will continue to haunt everyone of us.

Easier said than done. Takes time too.

Until then, more highway please. shakehead.gif
Kthxbai.

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QUOTE(Darian84 @ Jul 29 2015, 05:46 PM)
I just dun understand why some of u guys like highways so much? We know that it can help to ease the traffics but your really like to pay toll so much? The highways only will benefit the developers at the end and you will suffer on paying tolls.

Soonest or later the new highways will become congested so the demand for highways will never end. This is not a solution!
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Do you know how the Sg. Penchala/ Kota Damansara/ Bandar Sri Damansara/ Desa Park City area looks like in the 90's? Way before DP was build? Before Ikea was there? Before there was a Penchala tunnel? If you haven't seen it, come to Puncak Alam Area. It's quite similar. Small roads with really bad networks, expanding townships, booming community, no public transport, etc.

The only public transport available in Kota Damansara (it was called Pusat Bandar Sg Buloh) back then was Ho Hup buses which goes to Pudu through Sungai Buloh & Selayang. Persiaran Surian was not build yet at the time. There was no Penchala link. Even Sprint highway was just a normal road. The road from Penchala to bandar sri damansara area (which didn't exist yet) was only a single lane road which was small and winding. I used to get carsick when going through that road.

That was 20 years ago. Now you guys have all the road networks that you need, MRT coming soon, and yes,highways and tolls all around you. Didn't see you guys protesting against any of it in the last 20 years. In fact, the tolled highway connections was one of the key point that attracted people to buy properties in DP. I bet less people would have bought properties in DP if there was no LDP, SPRINT, Penchala Link and NKVE. So, don't come and tell us that highways are bad when you guys have clearly benefitted from it.

We would love it if DASH got no tolls, but that is not gonna happen anytime soon. So, we would gladly settle for a tolled highway as long as it can improve the connectivity to the area. Right now, Persiaran Mokhtar Dahari is the only access road that is available in the area and it consist of a single lane road for most part of the stretch.

Be honest, even if DASH were built with no tolls, you guys will still protest against it right? The issue is not about tolled highways, environment all all the other reasons that you guys have given. The only reason is that DASH will cause a slight inconvenience to you guys. That's all there is to it.

DP residents have benefitted from the progress that was made in the last 20 years. Progress that also inconvenienced other townships. So, now we're just asking for the same thing that you guys had been able to enjoy. We deserve it as much as you guys do.
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QUOTE(tangtang22 @ Jul 29 2015, 03:29 PM)
Dash has been principally approved . Just that the md/Dp part is being contested , and it is being contested in a proper way.

Hope ppl here will be objective as doesn't matter which end of the highway , all the rakyats rights r being exercised n opinion are being fairly expressed. Example , Shah Alam side wanted it n MBSA had approved it while md side dun want it n the local council has considered their concerns. That's how local governance should be n not just bulldoze through projects, can u imagine how chaotic it will be if such practices r allowed of ignoring the residents views ?

U just can't barge into someone's house n destroy it, it's just not right! Morally n technically. U need to seek a least some form of consents. Isn't that supposed to be if we all want a better Malaysia ?
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Dash is not "barging" and "destroying" your houses. Those words u used are too overly dramatic. It is merely passing through. Might cause a slight inconvenience, but that's all.

On the other hand, Damansara Perdana development displaces the Temuans from their ancestor land, destroyed their traditional way of living and brought 'outsiders' barging into their territory. And yet you guys still bought properties there. Where was your moral back then?

Prolintas are trying to engage with all affected parties, but if the protesters are protesting just for the sake of protesting, being selfish and not wanting to give any leeway, then that's not fair too. And even if all the technical requirements are met, you guys will still protest and turn it into a political issue. It will never end then.
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This is a good discussion. I've been saying developers and town planners need to put a cap on density in certain areas if the transport infra is insufficient, dont just approve without considering traffic bottlenecks.
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QUOTE(Wiredx @ Jul 30 2015, 03:49 PM)
This is a good discussion. I've been saying developers and town planners need to put a cap on density in certain areas if the transport infra is insufficient, dont just approve without considering traffic bottlenecks.
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supply and demand,
you all want house in KL/PJ area,
developer build as much as it can.

town planner??
what is that, never see their do their job before

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QUOTE(shahzane @ Jul 29 2015, 10:14 PM)
Dash is not "barging" and "destroying" your houses. Those words u used are too overly dramatic. It is merely passing through. Might cause a slight inconvenience, but that's all.

On the other hand, Damansara Perdana development displaces the Temuans from their ancestor land, destroyed their traditional way of living and brought 'outsiders' barging into their territory. And yet you guys still bought properties there. Where was your moral back then?

Prolintas are trying to engage with all affected parties, but if the protesters are protesting just for the sake of protesting, being selfish and not wanting to give any leeway, then that's not fair too. And even if all the technical requirements are met, you guys will still protest and turn it into a political issue. It will never end then.
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I strongly suggest that u Turun padang to visualize the impact to both md n dp.

Try to visualize it with the alignment n then u tell me what is the impact of dash. Not only it is damaging , it is outright a destruction of the ways of life of the residents . Hint, it's not that ez to visualize the alignment firstly.

If it won't affecting the residents, u think they will oppose ?

If u wanna look back at history n bringing up the orang asli issue ,
Did u stand up for them if u felt it was unjust ? Secondly , the orang asli were compensated n they had accepted the compensation , so it shall not be a point of discussion .

Another fact is, prolintas has not been playing fair, requirements have yet to be fulfilled n approval has been given. Again, to use ur "orang asli" analogy , is this morally acceptable to u?

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an elevated highway that not combine with current road can cause what kind of problem?

don't cry if later the highway go ground and share the pju 8/1 (just my own visualization)

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QUOTE(ykit_88 @ Jul 29 2015, 06:07 PM)
Well said.
We don't really need so much highways.
Just cut down the traffic would be the better solution.

So from now on please DON'T DRIVE YOUR CAR out.
Don't contribute to the already-congested-traffic.
Walk to the nearest MRT/LRT/KTM.  cool2.gif  cool2.gif
Ok stop being sarcastic.

We need more public transport/highways to ease the traffic.
To cut down the car volume we need proper big scale system, i.e. efficient public transport, controlled car volume.
Better infrastructure will need to be built.
Government/authority will need to step in, and funds as well.

Before all these idealism materialize traffic jam will continue to haunt everyone of us.

Easier said than done. Takes time too.

Until then, more highway please.  shakehead.gif
Kthxbai.
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Agreed. I have study the traffic flow since I started driving to work 10 years ago. Almost every year I need to advance my time to go out to work despite the I changed few companies and the latest workplace was just 15km away taking me 1 hour to arrive. I stay at batu caves and I need to use jalan kuching to reach my workplace. 10 years ago I depart to work at 7.30am and reach office about 8am (company in jalan ipoh nearby dynasty hotel), then work at damansara height I need to go out at 7.20 then become 7.15, 7.05, 6.55 and now comes to 6.45am. The jalan kuching become so much congested due to additional junctions in recent years and there was no additional highway to reach KL (I willing to pay toll if it can shorten my time by 20-30 minutes). So people like me is so much hope to have highway at highly congested traffic areas.

Okay, many people claim how poor the existing public transport either buses or train services. In fact there are two KTM stations nearby batu caves and mastiara, but the usage of these 2 stations were way too low despite having the stations for few years. I believe because people work at different areas and KTM likely not able to reach or it has to take few transit train to bus to reach office. Real example, my ex-colleague who working at 1U bandar utama and she was staying at Setapak. Early morning 6.30am she need to walk to LRT station and take LRT reach kelana jaya. After arrive she has to take public bus from Kelana Jaya to 1U. The total journey take her at least 1.30 hour (waiting time and commuting time). Finish work at 6pm she always take more than 2 hours to reach home as it was peak than morning hour the crowd. After 2 years she decided to drive car to office which took her around 1 hour to office and back home about 1.30 hour. She save total 1 hour at least and sitting in relax (standing inside bus and train mostly).

In fact the public transport coverage is getting better compare to a decade ago but still many people choose to take their own drive reason being taking public transport may not save time, save money and sometimes more danger. There are several cases happen where people getting robbed or kidnapped at bus station in early morning or late night. Security is really a big issue especially for lady who waited at bus station alone. Therefore there are many things the government need to do to ease the traffic such as better security, education to youngster to use public transport more often (those who used to drive hardly change to take public transport), improve coverage and connection between buses and train and so on.

But until then more highway please (quoted yours, hehe). If I used the highway then I pay toll, fair trade but the toll rate must be reasonable la. hehe

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Well said ! Fully agreed your statements ! thumbup.gif

QUOTE(shahzane @ Jul 29 2015, 09:55 PM)
Do you know how the Sg. Penchala/ Kota Damansara/ Bandar Sri Damansara/ Desa Park City area looks like in the 90's? Way before DP was build? Before Ikea was there? Before there was a Penchala tunnel? If you haven't seen it, come to Puncak Alam Area. It's quite similar. Small roads with really bad networks, expanding townships, booming community, no public transport, etc.

The only public transport available in Kota Damansara (it was called Pusat Bandar Sg Buloh) back then was Ho Hup buses which goes to Pudu through Sungai Buloh & Selayang. Persiaran Surian was not build yet at the time. There was no Penchala link. Even Sprint highway was just a normal road. The road from Penchala to bandar sri damansara area (which didn't exist yet) was only a single lane road which was small and winding. I used to get carsick when going through that road.

That was 20 years ago. Now you guys have all the road networks that you need, MRT coming soon, and yes,highways and tolls all around you. Didn't see you guys protesting against any of it in the last 20 years. In fact, the tolled highway connections was one of the key point that attracted people to buy properties in DP. I bet less people would have bought properties in DP if there was no LDP, SPRINT, Penchala Link and NKVE. So, don't come and tell us that highways are bad when you guys have clearly benefitted from it.

We would love it if DASH got no tolls, but that is not gonna happen anytime soon. So, we would gladly settle for a tolled highway as long as it can improve the connectivity to the area. Right now, Persiaran Mokhtar Dahari is the only access road that is available in the area and it consist of a single lane road for most part of the stretch.

Be honest, even if DASH were built with no tolls, you guys will still protest against it right? The issue is not about tolled highways, environment all all the other reasons that you guys have given. The only reason is that DASH will cause a slight inconvenience to you guys. That's all there is to it.

DP residents have benefitted from the progress that was made in the last 20 years. Progress that also inconvenienced other townships. So, now we're just asking for the same thing that you guys had been able to enjoy. We deserve it as much as you guys do.
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QUOTE(autodriver @ Jul 30 2015, 10:01 PM)
Agreed. I have study the traffic flow since I started driving to work 10 years ago. Almost every year I need to advance my time to go out to work despite the I changed few companies and the latest workplace was just 15km away taking me 1 hour to arrive. I stay at batu caves and I need to use jalan kuching to reach my workplace. 10 years ago I depart to work at 7.30am and reach office about 8am (company in jalan ipoh nearby dynasty hotel), then work at damansara height I need to go out at 7.20 then become 7.15, 7.05, 6.55 and now comes to 6.45am. The jalan kuching become so much congested due to additional junctions in recent years and there was no additional highway to reach KL (I willing to pay toll if it can shorten my time by 20-30 minutes). So people like me is so much hope to have highway at highly congested traffic areas.

Okay, many people claim how poor the existing public transport either buses or train services. In fact there are two KTM stations nearby batu caves and mastiara, but the usage of these 2 stations were way too low despite having the stations for few years. I believe because people work at different areas and KTM likely not able to reach or it has to take few transit train to bus to reach office. Real example, my ex-colleague who working at 1U bandar utama and she was staying at Setapak. Early morning 6.30am she need to walk to LRT station and take LRT reach kelana jaya. After arrive she has to take public bus from Kelana Jaya to 1U. The total journey take her at least 1.30 hour (waiting time and commuting time). Finish work at 6pm she always take more than 2 hours to reach home as it was peak than morning hour the crowd. After 2 years she decided to drive car to office which took her around 1 hour to office and back home about 1.30 hour. She save total 1 hour at least and sitting in relax (standing inside bus and train mostly).

In fact the public transport coverage is getting better compare to a decade ago but still many people choose to take their own drive reason being taking public transport may not save time, save money and sometimes more danger. There are several cases happen where people getting robbed or kidnapped at bus station in early morning or late night. Security is really a big issue especially for lady who waited at bus station alone. Therefore there are many things the government need to do to ease the traffic such as better security, education to youngster to use public transport more often (those who used to drive hardly change to take public transport), improve coverage and connection between buses and train and so on.

But until then more highway please (quoted yours, hehe). If I used the highway then I pay toll, fair trade but the toll rate must be reasonable la. hehe
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well said. own drive can save some time compare with public transport icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(shahzane @ Jul 29 2015, 09:55 PM)
Do you know how the Sg. Penchala/ Kota Damansara/ Bandar Sri Damansara/ Desa Park City area looks like in the 90's? Way before DP was build? Before Ikea was there? Before there was a Penchala tunnel? If you haven't seen it, come to Puncak Alam Area. It's quite similar. Small roads with really bad networks, expanding townships, booming community, no public transport, etc.

The only public transport available in Kota Damansara (it was called Pusat Bandar Sg Buloh) back then was Ho Hup buses which goes to Pudu through Sungai Buloh & Selayang. Persiaran Surian was not build yet at the time. There was no Penchala link. Even Sprint highway was just a normal road. The road from Penchala to bandar sri damansara area (which didn't exist yet) was only a single lane road which was small and winding. I used to get carsick when going through that road.

That was 20 years ago. Now you guys have all the road networks that you need, MRT coming soon, and yes,highways and tolls all around you. Didn't see you guys protesting against any of it in the last 20 years. In fact, the tolled highway connections was one of the key point that attracted people to buy properties in DP. I bet less people would have bought properties in DP if there was no LDP, SPRINT, Penchala Link and NKVE. So, don't come and tell us that highways are bad when you guys have clearly benefitted from it.

We would love it if DASH got no tolls, but that is not gonna happen anytime soon. So, we would gladly settle for a tolled highway as long as it can improve the connectivity to the area. Right now, Persiaran Mokhtar Dahari is the only access road that is available in the area and it consist of a single lane road for most part of the stretch.

Be honest, even if DASH were built with no tolls, you guys will still protest against it right? The issue is not about tolled highways, environment all all the other reasons that you guys have given. The only reason is that DASH will cause a slight inconvenience to you guys. That's all there is to it.

DP residents have benefitted from the progress that was made in the last 20 years. Progress that also inconvenienced other townships. So, now we're just asking for the same thing that you guys had been able to enjoy. We deserve it as much as you guys do.
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Comparing a time when density was really low with now when density has reached critical mass and infrastructure is already facing stress isn't exactly brilliant. Of course people are protesting when the area cant cope with it anymore.
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QUOTE(shahzane @ Jul 29 2015, 09:55 PM)
Do you know how the Sg. Penchala/ Kota Damansara/ Bandar Sri Damansara/ Desa Park City area looks like in the 90's? Way before DP was build? Before Ikea was there? Before there was a Penchala tunnel? If you haven't seen it, come to Puncak Alam Area. It's quite similar. Small roads with really bad networks, expanding townships, booming community, no public transport, etc.

The only public transport available in Kota Damansara (it was called Pusat Bandar Sg Buloh) back then was Ho Hup buses which goes to Pudu through Sungai Buloh & Selayang. Persiaran Surian was not build yet at the time. There was no Penchala link. Even Sprint highway was just a normal road. The road from Penchala to bandar sri damansara area (which didn't exist yet) was only a single lane road which was small and winding. I used to get ........

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Yes, I completely agreed with you because I was study college in KBU bandar utama 12 years ago. At that point of time the traffic of LDP is considered smooth though there was little traffic after the toll from Kepong. Damansara Perdana is completely forest and at early of 2000s the development of mutiara damansara has started. The Kota Damansara at that time the postcode was still under sungai buloh and no development at all at Giza mall till mutiara damansara. The access to KD is only from sungai buloh or jalan tanjung behind bandar utama.

With more development over the place of KD, MD and DP, the road has been widen and also penchala link highway take place to ease the highly growth areas. That is the reason why the developers keep developing the areas due to various access roads.

So place like puncak perdana, denai alam, puncak alam, saujana utama etc are also similar situation to KD, MD and DP a decade ago. Therefore the need of highway to ease the burden especially persiaran mokhtar dahari is necessary. Before LDP the road was only 2 lanes of each direction but now LDP is considered as highway and due to booming areas there are multiple interchange connected such as penchala link, sprint (plus highway), MRR2 and federal highway.

So DASH need highway to access to KL or PJ, if the elevated highway road is too close to residence area or the corner is too sharp which may cause accident, then prolintas should do re-alignment to avoid these issues. But re-alignment and removal is completely different thing. Those protesters are demanding permanent removal DASH from KD, MD and DP but there was no revised route provided. The DASH purpose is to connect penchala link (so far still consider under usage), MRR2 and sprint highway.

Since there was MRT and LRT services in PJ areas, they have other option such as take MRT or public buses to workplace. As I know DASH is crossing those places which have very least public commuters, that's why these areas need highway.

By the way people in KD, MD and DP, I bet you guys unlikely take MRT even though the MRT station completed in future as most of you still drive own car. Somemore you guys are always talk about high standard of living and every household own at least 1 or 2 cars and generally earning more compare to rural areas.
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i believe Penchala link had been designed for DASH from beginning, so re-alignment from MD was almost impossible.

if you notice the penchala link have 2 path both entry and exit through jalan pju 8/1 & jalan pju 7/9 which very uncommon in a highway design

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The problem with the resident there is there is only one route out to the Guthrie, long jalan arang it is jam because of traffic light. The people living there is on the rise. Then there is jam around jalan lapangan terbang, and to shah alam... Another route to damansara will be able to slove the problem.
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QUOTE(Darian84 @ Jul 29 2015, 05:46 PM)
I just dun understand why some of u guys like highways so much? We know that it can help to ease the traffics but your really like to pay toll so much? The highways only will benefit the developers at the end and you will suffer on paying tolls.

Soonest or later the new highways will become congested so the demand for highways will never end. This is not a solution!
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We don't like highway, who ever like to pay? But that is the why to go because of increasing traffic. The road will need to be broaden, new highway need to be build.

Damansara perdana area and surrounding is a business district now with all traffic going to during weekdays, so resident there have to be realistic that you will face the problem one day. If you really want a peaceful life, you have to go live somewhere else. Just my thought.
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QUOTE(tangtang22 @ Jul 29 2015, 03:29 PM)
Dash has been principally approved . Just that the md/Dp part is being contested , and it is being contested in a proper way.

Hope ppl here will be objective as doesn't matter which end of the highway , all the rakyats rights r being exercised n opinion are being fairly expressed. Example , Shah Alam side wanted it n MBSA had approved it while md side dun want it n the local council has considered their concerns. That's how local governance should be n not just bulldoze through projects, can u imagine how chaotic it will be if such practices r allowed of ignoring the residents views ?

U just can't barge into someone's house n destroy it, it's just not right! Morally n technically. U need to seek a least some form of consents. Isn't that supposed to be if we all want a better Malaysia ?
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I have seen the kelana mrt line to subang passing through the condominium beside the empire shopping mall, no comment from the resident there, what a sporty residents they are. damansara perdana is a business district compare to Subang.
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QUOTE(kelvinfixx @ Jul 31 2015, 01:45 PM)
The problem with the resident there is there is only one route out to the Guthrie, long jalan arang it is jam because of traffic light. The people living there is on the rise. Then there is jam around jalan lapangan terbang, and to shah alam... Another route to damansara will be able to slove the problem.
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true ... at least Dash must be allow to build half way soon.
can release the heavy traffic in that area
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Come try out Jalan Batu Arang during PEAK HOUR and you'll know how bad it is. Unless there is a MRT line in Puncak Alam otherwise DASH highway is a must.
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go go go DASH!

actually why DP is so jam?
Sri damansara wants to puncture through but same thing, DP protested.
if from sutera damansara can puncture through, at least it provides more 'network' of roads. but DP thinks it's going to deteriorate their roads once LDP commuters use it to bypass tolls.
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QUOTE(kochin @ Jul 31 2015, 03:37 PM)
go go go DASH!

actually why DP is so jam?
Sri damansara wants to puncture through but same thing, DP protested.
if from sutera damansara can puncture through, at least it provides more 'network' of roads. but DP thinks it's going to deteriorate their roads once LDP commuters use it to bypass tolls.
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QUOTE(kelvinfixx @ Jul 31 2015, 01:59 PM)
I have seen the kelana mrt line to subang passing through the condominium beside the empire shopping mall, no comment from the resident there, what a sporty residents they are. damansara perdana is a business district compare to Subang.
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Plz keep it sensible , n compare apple to orange .

Ur comparing mrt n a highway ? Doesn't make sense at all.


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just to add on, look at pj town planning.
all its sections are basically divided by grids and interconnected.
the old sections and ss series are interweaving. locals can use the taman taman roads to get to one place over another. while ldp, fh, sprint, forms the main artery.

DP township is quite big. but it goes in and out to LDP only. i disqualify MD and Persiaran Surian because it is still a sub road from LDP.
DP does not form a loop hence traffic can't flow through and and only flow within. if ever something happens at say the main junction near citibank, entire township is practically cut off all the way to rafflesia.

on the other hand, if rafflesia were to connect to KD, DP to SD, add in additional bypass to MD and perhaps secondary link to LDP. who knows, it may be better to connect outside rather than keeping the township within their own circle.
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No point arguing at all... both parties have their self interest and their own reason to support or object to this project, let the one who is doing the actual work to see the results rather than being keyboards heroes everywhere, no matter how much had been said, DP residents forever will consider PA residents doesnt need this highway and survive another way and PA residents will forever consider DP residents to be selfish in their own way. Really no point debating at all. No ends. Peace yo. icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 31 2015, 03:50 PM)
No point arguing at all... both parties have their self interest and their own reason to support or object to this project, let the one who is doing the actual work to see the results rather than being keyboards heroes everywhere, no matter how much had been said, DP residents forever will consider PA residents doesnt need this highway and survive another way and PA residents will forever consider DP residents to be selfish in their own way. Really no point debating at all. No ends. Peace yo.  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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true!
sesungguhnya manusia suka jadi keyboard warrior.
pungpangpungpang tulis ikut sedap tangan je.

orang atasan gelak tengok perangai sorang-sorang.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 31 2015, 03:50 PM)
No point arguing at all... both parties have their self interest and their own reason to support or object to this project, let the one who is doing the actual work to see the results rather than being keyboards heroes everywhere, no matter how much had been said, DP residents forever will consider PA residents doesnt need this highway and survive another way and PA residents will forever consider DP residents to be selfish in their own way. Really no point debating at all. No ends. Peace yo.  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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true!
sesungguhnya manusia suka jadi keyboard warrior.
pungpangpungpang tulis ikut sedap tangan je.

orang atasan gelak tengok perangai sorang-sorang.
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DASH will solve the traffic at PJU 7/1 and PJU 8/1 junction, filtering local traffic and highway user
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QUOTE(tangtang22 @ Jul 31 2015, 03:44 PM)
Plz keep it sensible , n compare apple to orange .

Ur comparing mrt n a highway ? Doesn't make sense at all.
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Ok, but there are many highway just beside the condo too. I am sorry for the DP people too, the developer should have inform them, but then again it wont be happening.
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QUOTE(rickyro @ Jul 31 2015, 04:26 PM)
DASH will solve the traffic at PJU 7/1 and PJU 8/1 junction, filtering local traffic and highway user
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See solve so many places problem. We should also demand it to build for shah alam, klang, PJU, ara damasnara, sugai buloh.
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Jul 31 2015, 03:50 PM)
No point arguing at all... both parties have their self interest and their own reason to support or object to this project, let the one who is doing the actual work to see the results rather than being keyboards heroes everywhere, no matter how much had been said, DP residents forever will consider PA residents doesnt need this highway and survive another way and PA residents will forever consider DP residents to be selfish in their own way. Really no point debating at all. No ends. Peace yo.  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Got point, we got more people want it to be build. Majority win. Realign a little far from their condo is also a win win for all.
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QUOTE(kelvinfixx @ Jul 31 2015, 04:52 PM)
Got point, we got more people want it to be build. Majority win. Realign a little far from their condo is also a win win for all.
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Quite susah since it is designed to be a 6 lane carriageway
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QUOTE(rosebud_luna @ Jul 31 2015, 04:07 PM)
sesungguhnya manusia suka jadi keyboard warrior.
pungpangpungpang tulis ikut sedap tangan je.

orang atasan gelak tengok perangai sorang-sorang.
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is DASH the one u can always see when u are NKVE to south? i saw there is a station (duno LRT MRT or what) at my left hand side
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QUOTE(jacksonkpf @ Jul 31 2015, 05:12 PM)
is DASH the one u can always see when u are NKVE to south? i saw there is a station (duno LRT MRT or what) at my left hand side
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That would be lrt extension. DASH is still under approval
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What if.... the highway split at kota damansara interchange

3 lanes elevated goes through PJU 7/7 ---> PJU 7/1 ----> Penchala

and the other 3 lanes elevated go through PJU 8/1 ---> Penchala...


that would be halving the traffic through DP residents

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QUOTE(Darian84 @ Jul 29 2015, 05:46 PM)
I just dun understand why some of u guys like highways so much? We know that it can help to ease the traffics but your really like to pay toll so much? The highways only will benefit the developers at the end and you will suffer on paying tolls.

Soonest or later the new highways will become congested so the demand for highways will never end. This is not a solution!
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So you tell me what is the best solution? Today you dont build highway 20 years later when traffic congested to the max only build? By that time the cost is not 4 billion anymore.

Then how much is the toll expected to be?
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QUOTE(chukokliang @ Aug 7 2015, 02:12 PM)
So you tell me what is the best solution? Today you dont build highway 20 years later when traffic congested to the max only build? By that time the cost is not 4 billion anymore.

Then how much is the toll expected to be?
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very short sighted. i guess he should stay in Nilai or Ipoh
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DASH is good. Should build more highway to ease the traffic flow.

Please dun complaint toll expensive and why pay toll still so jam lar.

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