I think i would rather pick lenovo mirage instead of oculus go. At least that has some small positional tracking.
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Jun 7 2018, 12:56 PM
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I think i would rather pick lenovo mirage instead of oculus go. At least that has some small positional tracking.
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Jun 8 2018, 03:12 AM
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QUOTE(881118 @ Jun 8 2018, 12:07 AM) then you can get Oculus Rift + Touch, only 399USD, and cheaper during discount, for example ebay discount 20% yesterday. Oculus Go is like a standalone Gear VR without the need to purchase a Samsung flagship phone. Its somewhat compared to a perfected google cardboard VR but the lack of positional tracking makes immersion limited and may even cause motion sickness. Because of the limitation of a mobile hardware, i cannot run high end VR apps.But you need a powerful enough PC. the point with Oculus Go is you don't need a powerful PC and you can use it anywhere including toilet time. 200 usd for 32gb and 250 for 64gb. I do not recommend 32gb bcoz good VR games would take a few gb. and ull also wanna space to store movies/series inside (assuming ur gonna use it for travelling). Battery and cooling will be a major issue in these type of device. the Rift games require GTX 960 (gc being the bottle neck in VR apps) with decent processor and ram. that being said, u can always lower the supersampling and activate asynchronous spacewarp. but tbh unless u really want a portable VR without using a PC/laptop, i would still recommend to just go for AWMR or Lenovo explorer, which atm claimed optimized for GTX 1050TI and above. |
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Jul 6 2018, 07:54 PM
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QUOTE(kanz1986 @ Jul 6 2018, 12:07 AM) Hi there guys. How are you? I'm into photographs and video productions and is planning to venture into 360 videos/photos via HMD. I'm hoping to obtain some suggestions from experts in the field for the HMD and laptop. Vive and Rift are both established all rounder. But since u mentioned watching 360 high quality videos and photograph, a windows MR headset would give better image (but with significantly worst hand tracking).The HMD will mostly be used for viewing and experiencing immersive 360 high quality videos and photographs. Additionally, I would also like to tryout some VR games particularly Beat Saber. My current budget is around 8k - 10k and I'm considering to get the HTC vive + Alienware 15 GTX1070. Do you think its overkill for such usage? A high resolution and smooth play of video with HMD is my utmost priority. Thank you! which ever hmd u get, and also thinking of purchasing a new rig/laptop, i would recommend an i7 7700k with 16g ram, SSD and GTX 1070. the graphic card almost always the bottle neck. even the GTX 1070 would demonstrate occasional drop frames. But not to worry as most developer would try their best to optimized games for at least a GTX 1060(for now), but if i were getting a new rig now, i would pick at least gtx 1070 or above to be safe for the next few years. |
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Jul 7 2018, 06:22 PM
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Jul 7 2018, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE(kanz1986 @ Jul 7 2018, 06:26 PM) For me, i use lenovo explorer.The sde is barely noticible.. However the lens hyperfocus the center as well.. This would be problemic if yr ipd is to far from 6.3 cm. It also uses lcd screen hence u will see glow in dark games/app. Color is also abit washout(u wont notice this unless u tried samsung odyssey or other hmd.) Vive sde is noticible. Its line playing while wearing a beehive protective helmet. There is also more noticible god rays. But both of these are always forgotten by the player once the game starts. Tracking in wmr is really bad but usable.. I have to constantly remind myself to keep my hands infront like a t-rex. Otherwise it will be reminded for me when my hands fly out 2 meters away, thus giving out my position in competitive games. Vive hand tracking is well worked. And always forgot im in VR in the vive but not in wmr. Have u tried vr in any vr arcade? |
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Jul 11 2018, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE(Mr.PeeNutt @ Jul 10 2018, 04:19 PM) WMR on beat saber works fine for average player. but i do hear it problematic at high difficulties. i tested the game out abit. its more lime a fun demo.just a side note: WMR requires an excellent bluetooth adapter for the controller to work. otherwise an additional usb for bluetooth adapter and maybe extension cord is needed. wierd why wmr diny put it as their requirement in their ads. |
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Jul 20 2018, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Jul 20 2018, 03:48 AM) Itchy to get my own Vive... Only around 2.5k now, but kinda scared if they release a new one. Not talking about Vive Pro but maybe they will release something better, Pro isn't good enough for an upgrade if you had a Vive. Not even worth the buy either it seems. As much i love my vive, watching HTC as a company losing money every year is scary. their poor customer service makes it worst.Maybe Oculus will release a new one soon? Sounds good to wait. I'll just be satisfied with PSVR for now. On the better side, vive is very establish with alot of customization (soft ware and hardware accessories). tracking was said to be slightly better for the hands. partly because its inside out (in contrast to outside-in for rift, hence data from each camera needs to be sent to the PC and calculated). Im not sure if the current absent of GST and SST would affect the vive or not. I know Vive cannot be directly bought from overseas due to the build in lithium batteries within the hand controllers. only those with removable batteries can go through Malaysian customs (from direct online stores). |
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Jul 21 2018, 11:38 AM
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hmm what define as killer app? I know some ppl who have a VR HMD rarely go on their desktop anymore unless needed. Once u see the degree of spatial depth, u wont like flat models anymore.
In my honest opinion, there is a lack of awareness and exposure and misconception. Many have not tried VR has assume they know what it is based on looking at demos on a flat panel/screen. Some even assume 360 videos as VR. Im not sure if u have tried VR but there is no way to describe it and compare it with a flat screen. Another issue is the cost of getting a VR head set, as others have mentioned. Its unfortunate some people compares VR HMD as a gaming controller, therefore the assumption of it being expensive. VR HMD is not a gaming controller, it follows and classifies as a desktop monitor category in most manufacturers, customs and warranty policies. |
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Aug 14 2018, 08:40 PM
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QUOTE(HaHeHo @ Aug 13 2018, 10:52 PM) hard to give an accurate estimate. the entry price is gradually dropping, this is due to, newer hardware /old hardware being cheaper Better software optimization new competitive priced VR headsets. if ur looking at the most minimum, a GTX 1050TI and latest intel i5 processor with Acer WMR would be bare minimum. |
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Aug 14 2018, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE(HaHeHo @ Aug 14 2018, 10:29 PM) well... ah got Zotac GTX1050 ti OC up mah rig. Just need ta upgrade G4560 and git da Acer WMR thingy. I5 6500 is fine, rite? Btw, wat's up with forcing C-type USB as standard cable for VR? Saw sumtin 'bout it a few days ago on9 but TLDR. If ur buying now, a better processor is reccomended. Vr just entered consumer level in 2016, when hardware barely make it possible.. And i expect requirement to be always high for next couple of years? But if budget is the issue, then i5 6500 is enugh. May wanna topup ram to 16gb. Note: u ll also need original windows 10 and bluetooth adapter for any WMR to work. The type c thingy is just guess. Its not gonna happen for now as pc and laptops all use usb 3.0 and hdmi 2.0. So generally it would be unpractical for any vr manifacturer to use type c usb. This post has been edited by FluffyTee: Aug 14 2018, 10:55 PM |
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Aug 14 2018, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE(HaHeHo @ Aug 14 2018, 11:17 PM) -16gb RAM? Done. bought b4 price hike last year. Built in should work. But based on reddit, alot of users complaint of frequent hand tracking problem. Wmr controllers relies highly on bluetooth for tracking.-Original Win10? Done. Bought off ebay. cheaply. -Bluetooth adaptor? is built-in asrock h270m itx/ac ok? I bought a usb 2.0 extender and bluetooth dongle. And hang it up head level to improve tracking. But thats bcoz i cant tolerate random stutters. I suggest u dont need to buy one first. Test wif ur build in ones. If controllers keeps losig tracking, then u can go ahead and buy a bt dongle+extender |
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Aug 15 2018, 07:10 PM
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QUOTE(WingZero @ Aug 15 2018, 09:25 AM) why Acer WMR instead of Oculus Rift? Amazon deliver to your doorstep around 2K Amazon also deliveres both headsets to doorstep. The cost between oculus rift and and acer wmr is about 399(+ 70 for 360 degree tracking)usd vs 250 usd.from my experience, 8GB RAM and GTX1060 6GB already deliver a smooth VR gaming with Rift He ask for the cheapest hmd and he has gtx 1050ti Although both headsets and further lower their minimum spec to gtx 1050TI now, i would expect oculus to perform slightly better bcoz it has less pixel to deliver, at cost of resolution and sde. But now to think of it, he dint say to exclude those lower cost vr hmd without positional tracking. Do u have suggestions? |
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Aug 16 2018, 03:08 AM
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QUOTE(WingZero @ Aug 15 2018, 07:49 PM) Wow didnt realized WMR dropped so much as previously its not 250 USD. Now even I am tempted to try lol. Yeah all the wmr sets (except samsung) are threwing their price down. Their aim is to increase population of users. Their now at 6% population on steamvr survey.So far I only manage to play with PSVR, Gear VR, Oculus Go and Oculus Rift. Out of these my choice will be Rift as it's a complete VR set to me especially on the software end. Unfortunately cant get Vive to be delivered to Malaysia directly. Btw I tried 1050ti with rift previously in 2017. There's lag. Dont recommend it. Oculus, vive and wmr are still spending time optimizing their software, particularly using reprojection techniques. Rift for an example, have periodically lower their minimum requirement from 2016 to today. Unfortunately they also halt support for win 8 and 7. I personally prefer vive. after sales service is horrible. But vive is an open system, and cannot be remotely lockdown, unlike the rift. Wmr is now really cheap. Especialy with no gst. (Amazon will initially charge gst on purchase but later refund it) |
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Aug 17 2018, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(HaHeHo @ Aug 17 2018, 05:34 PM) Microsoft is known to stop wmr from running on "unsupported" hardware. Ur g4560 should have been able to run. Im not sure if there is a way to overide this.Otherwise a rift may cost less as u can hold off changing the processor. I would suggest rift if u dont have issue with setting up cameras and have 3-4 good usb 3.0 slots |
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Aug 17 2018, 08:00 PM
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QUOTE(HaHeHo @ Aug 17 2018, 07:29 PM) Psvr is a gud choice considering the popularity. Its the only VR headset (with proper positional head and hand tracking) thats officially sold in malaysia. Its probably the cheapest vr set to get if u dont even have the pc rig yet for vr.But.. The games is gonna cost users more in the long run. (PC Vr can get "alternative"downloads of the games.) Just my opinion... I feel its not worth for now as many vr games had to reduce their graphic quality to work on psvr, thus showing signs that the ps4 is reaching is limit. I would still pick wmr or another pc vr over psvr, Even if i had to buy a new pc rig, bcoz the rig can still be used for other stuff. Dun take too long to decide. Now no gst if order from amazon. |
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Sep 5 2018, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE(shirley_andy @ Sep 5 2018, 09:40 AM) Finally gave HTC Vive a proper run at The Pantheon One City. Hey! Although vive does not reveal it. There are multiple version of cv1. The latest one is lighter, and comes with a single cable. The light house has also reduced to 9 LED.The hand controllers are much heavier than Oculus Touch, can really feel fatigue after playing few rounds of Beat Saber. Good for working out the hands I guess. Headset sponge is softer than Oculus Rift and have full coverage, this means there's no gap at the nose part, which improves immersion. Oculus Rift assumes everyone are ang moh with big nose thus the gap. However for me I prefer the gap, atleast I can still use keyboard, look at my phone, check my monitor for error message without taking off the Rift. Vive have more than 1 cable running to the headset compared to Oculus of only 1 cable. Don't know is it due to the extra cable or purely the weight of the goggle but Vive is noticeably heavier than Oculus. I do like the adjustable lens to eye distance.(not ipd) I cant say the weight of the control is comfortable for all, but i found it more realistic holding ingame weapon/items with some weight. I do dislike the god rays and default weight distribution (without the DAS) and rechargable controllers. Btw how much are the rental charges and service? |
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Sep 8 2018, 12:45 PM
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QUOTE(HaHeHo @ Sep 8 2018, 12:17 PM) today. I tried Vridge 2(via wifi) + moonlight(nvidia tech) + cardboard + xiaomi 4a + superlux hd681 evo. Hellblade Senua' sacrifice running at 720p and 60fps. Wa.. Play like dat sure motion sickness la.. Whats slowing u from getting a proper VR system?Gonna go throw up now. |
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Sep 8 2018, 03:09 PM
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Sep 8 2018, 03:19 PM
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