Amazon was having dc at $249 actually. Its more for portability and a 2nd head set for coop games.
Setup is pretty easy but needs a larger space to play. (It looses tracking then i get to near the wall/floor as it loses all reference points.)
But tbh tracking is wonky compared to vive. Resolution is sharper but the back light glow ruins allmost any dark scene.

Ill still pick vive anytime for gaming, despite the lower res.
I dont have rift but i believe rift has better tracking than wmr.

U interested in wmr

Before buying, should check if warranty fullfilled by amazon or not. Cost of repair probably quite high for us due to transport fee, but atleast got warranty and usually cheaper, unlike 3rd party reseller here.

Theres a month guarenttee where return cost would be by amazon, including taxes.

Oh that kind of suck. But we all no choice.. Seeing none of the PC VR wants to sell in malaysia..

How old is ur visor and wat was the issue?

I think all the wmr seem to have a significant quality control. With the price cut off nearly by 50% bcoz of excess stock or high returns.
Reddit there is plagued with die hard religious fans of wmr that would downvote any negatives about wmr, even the legit ones.
I can tell u honestly wmr tracking is clumpsy.

actually why r u picking WMR?
For me, the only 2 reasons to choose WMR is cost or portability.

Resolution is definitely sharper but because they use fresnel lens, if ur IPD is further from their IPD (~63), ur clarity will be affected..
Also... if ur playing dark games.. ull definitely notice the obvious lcd glow which ruins the game.

if ur watching youtube reviewers... people like sebastion ang is paid by lenovo to promote. the real tracking is no where that good and he cuts scenes where his tracking goes haywire.
edit: is this gonna be ur first VR headset?

This post has been edited by FluffyTee: May 30 2018, 09:45 PM

when possible u should get the HTC Vive or Oculus rift. those have more consistent performance.

playing on WMR is like playing on a half broken VR device..

Sebastion Ang is an actor and will hide the issues in his reviews. but if u look at his reviews on games using the lenovo explorer.. u can see some tracking issues.
https://youtu.be/IAQAcowSsEM?t=419 and also at 18:08.
from my experience. they tracking cannot track fast and fine movements.... they can also register false position as both controller uses same circular LED.
Sniping is also nearly impossible with WMR.

do u have rec room on psvr, i can show u how far the hand really tracks

unfortunately no...

price of entry too high. not profitable.. even psvr, the only 1(apart from Gear VR) in malaysia isnt making much sales.

Is it? Maybe it used to be slow sales. has improve with awareness and demand over time.
i was told they had limited quota for Malaysia as they were still testing the market.

Imho wmr was design for non gaming. It seems targetted at portability and text reading.
I suppose u can try get the dell visor. Maybe sell off if u find u wanna upgrade. Dell visor was my second choice. My decision for lenovo was scewed by youtube reviews. Looking at how dell position their front camera, user may have more range of tracking?
WMR software has vastly improved but also alot unaddress bugs. Notably the controller battery, controller angle in steam(default grip position is for vive).
The controller design is pretty bad. The angle of grip to trigger is 135 degrees, way too far from a normal gun and unnatural.

Do u mean u found the solution problem for the angle problem FROM me?

but yea the controllers feels like a cheap TV controller. I did smashed mine once and the outer ring case, joy stick and the plate form for joystick fell. fortunately all clicked back in without issue. therefore the controllers are not as durable as portrayed. It happens as i tried to throw(uppercut maneuver) but i was too close to my table..
I would expect this kind of device to last a year before it has problems.

if i would rebuy another WMR i would take dell visor bcoz i am right handed and lenovo has their heavy cable on the right.. it can get really annoying if u playing archery as ur right hand can be obstructed by the thick cable or hooked by ur headphone wire.
the price on ezbuy also seems suspicious.. even amazon sells for usd237.44. thats MYR944.89 on direct conversion. MYR 1.2k is a narrow profit margin esp with the cost of delivery and currency exchange. Just bcareful as it might be a refurbish set.

yea thats me.. =p
seeings its only 1.2k it might be worth the risk. worst case if u dont like it u can sell it off 2nd hand here. bcoz there isnt official seller here, it should be easier to sell.

let us know once u get ur device.. there are a few custom settings u can do with WMR. notoriously the locomotion in SteamVR. which maybe bannable =_=.

Ill try but..
I cant compare againts the rift bcoz i have a htc vive.
But the resolution bump vive to lenovo explorer is significant. I can barely notice the pixels and screen door effect in wmr. Clarity of text in game has really increased for wmr.
Ghosting isnt noticible to me in wmr
Backlight glow (lcd screen in wmr)can ruin dark games, especially horror games. But ppl may not notice it if they never tried the vive/rift.
Wmr (except samsung odyssey) has fix ipd with fresnel lens. My ipd is 64mm which is similar to lenovo explorer (63mm). If ur ipd is more than. 65, i would warn that the clarity drops in wmr for u.
Fov is actually subjective. Getting ur face closer to the lens does increase fov. I use a thin padding on vive and both now have similar fov.

Overall graphics in wmr is better than htc vive bcoz of the resolution bump. It makes vr more "real". I can easily notice pixel in vive, but ill also forget bout it during game play.
I put on my vive if im going into competitive or pro level gaming. The tracking in wmr is the biggest let down. If u want i can demo how "noisy" the hand tracking is.
If should note that the wmr hmd usually has a dead space from the walls which it would loose tracking. My play space for vive is 3.0m x 2.0m. My wmr can only create a 2.0m x 1.5m of the same room. This is also bcoz the vive lets us create boundries over table or bed.

wow ur ipd so high? sure or not?
isnt 63-64 the average for ppl? =p

They do look very convincingly good on youtube right?
But trust me the controller tracking is inaccurate.
Do u have anyone with the rift to compare

Or do u wanna just buy from amazon, they have 30 days return. Now with gst gone, should be cheaper to return.

The way these ppl claim every tracking issue is due to bluetooth. Its BS. Rift and vive never had such big issue with bluetooth. Bluetooth transmit the rotations but the position is generally determined by the front camera.

I tested placing controller on the floor and walk around it. The controller position shifts by few cm as i walk in a circle around it.

I bought a lenovo and was wowed by the resolution but disappointed with their tracking.

Btw price in ezbuy has increased

Yeah i think they added rm285 delivery fees.. i dint see that previously.
This makes the price closw to buying from amazon directly.
Buying from amazon would retain warranty and 30 days return refund.

This post has been edited by FluffyTee: Jun 4 2018, 03:49 PM

Oh. I forgot bout that lol. But warranty might be an issue as its bound to the amazon account.

Hmm assuming wmr doesnt work out for u i suppose u could sell it second hand. And buy hopefully a new rift later?
U can still ask me what u need to know before buying

tried on rec room, payday 2, arizona sunshine and VRchat.

sword fighting and shields are usually fine..
Bows for me is fine on WMR but i heard issues with some players.. it depends how u naturally aim ur bow? front hand moves vs back hand moves and vertical bow vs horizontal bow.
but WMR tracking performed badly if i were to snipe, throw grenades,or aiming upwards with paintball.
quick hand movements like this is also impossible in WMR. Click Here
It takes like an extra half second for the WMR hands to stabilize before u can shoot. and that can make a difference in multiplayer games.

unfortunately it is. WMR is the wrong headset to play that game. throwing with a WMR headset is based of the algorithm and prediction. unless u always look at ur throwing hand. But even so the tracking itself isnt that great. its not easy to get a precise position of the hands when its external tracker(the headset) is also consistently moving.
anyone who says throwing is perfect on WMR is outright lying. If i had to throw in WMR, i have to do it from bottom top or Frisbee style. That being said, i have also manage to trick the WMR into making unrealistic insane throws from back to front by jerking the my wrist. I can throw dodgeball at incredible speed and distance.

Yeah i wanted to play that game too.
Maybe ill install revive and play it later.

I like how rift manage to have such a nice promo ad



Let us know when u finally got ur vr hmd