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post May 24 2013, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(faizyusof94 @ May 24 2013, 12:18 AM)
which means same hull design = same class..??
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In the US Navy a class is always named after the lead ship,..... the first ship of the class to be approved....as we know naval architect take great effort and money to develop a hull design...so it serve as a sort of template should others want to order....of course vessels are not mass produced....but development cost will be minimised if you take a ready design hull and then retrofit the rest according to your requirements
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QUOTE(noavatar @ May 24 2013, 12:25 AM)
In the US Navy a class is always named after the lead ship,..... the first ship of the class to be approved....as we know naval architect take great effort and money to develop a hull design...so it serve as a sort of template should others want to order....of course vessels are not mass produced....but development cost will be minimised if you take a ready design hull and then retrofit the rest according to your requirements
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ May 24 2013, 12:12 AM)
100,000 ton for Ford?? woaa...how that thing can still float..btw, Dokdo/Mistral is considered as an aircraft carrier? i see..that explains shahpaskal saying M'sia will be the first negara Islam yang mempunyai kapal pengangkut pesawat if we bought Dokdo in his blog, militaryofmalaysia.net..  blink.gif
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I thought Dokdo/Mistral is classified as a amphibious assault carrier of the type LHD (Landing Helicopter Dock)


Their use according to US Navy Factfile:

Amphibious warships are designed to support the Marine Corps tenets of Operational Maneuver From the Sea (OMFTS) and Ship to Objective Maneuver (STOM). They must be able to sail in harm's way and provide a rapid buildup of combat power ashore in the face of opposition. Because of their inherent capabilities, these ships have been and will continue to be called upon to also support humanitarian and other contingency missions on short notice.


P.S. Seawise Giant, later named Happy Giant, Jahre Viking, and Knock Nevis, a ULCC supertanker was the biggest and the longest ship ever built, with the greatest deadweight tonnage ever recorded.... 564,700 tones.

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ May 24 2013, 12:01 AM)
Nice, but if tdm then shud be belang rimau color scheme? no
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haha, tukang photoshop givap kekekeke

QUOTE(faizyusof94 @ May 24 2013, 12:18 AM)
which means same hull design = same class..??
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The last time it was based on the hull size, from small to large like the OPV, PV, corvette, frigate, destroyer and battleship.
but right now the weapon system and the role of the ship play part to such as FAC G/M missile frigate and etc
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ May 24 2013, 12:12 AM)
100,000 ton for Ford?? woaa...how that thing can still float..btw, Dokdo/Mistral is considered as an aircraft carrier? i see..that explains shahpaskal saying M'sia will be the first negara Islam yang mempunyai kapal pengangkut pesawat if we bought Dokdo in his blog, militaryofmalaysia.net..  blink.gif
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why do we even need dokdo/mistral class ship for? not like we have a lot of attack helis to begin with.
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what model of the leo2 are the indonesians getting? all the news i can google just mention them as "used", but no mention of model.
2a4? 2a5? 2a6?
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post May 24 2013, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ May 24 2013, 08:58 AM)
what model of the leo2 are the indonesians getting? all the news i can google just mention them as "used", but no mention of model.
2a4? 2a5? 2a6?
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It's the Leopard 2A4. 63 unit to be upgraded into the MBT Revolution by Rheinmetall, 40 unit refurbished Leopard 2A4 & 10 supporting tanks.

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“We are buying Leopard 2A4 and Leopard 2 Revolution models that are already modified and have new armaments…. All the political and administrative processes are complete, we are in the production phase…. We can use them as soon as they arrive…. The memorandum of understanding will stipulate the transfer of technology and the provision of spare parts.”


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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ May 24 2013, 08:36 AM)
why do we even need dokdo/mistral class ship for? not like we have a lot of attack helis to begin with.
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during the first initial plan, the idea is for a MPSS similar to the Rotterdam Class
then the Korean comes and promote Dokdo which will be smallar version Malaysia Navy, and the Navy like it at that time.
the sneaky french knew about the interest so they promote the Mistral!
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ May 24 2013, 12:10 PM)
during the first initial plan, the idea is for a MPSS similar to the Rotterdam Class
then the Korean comes and promote Dokdo which will be smallar version Malaysia Navy, and the Navy like it at that time.
the sneaky french knew about the interest so they promote the Mistral!
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yeah..but navy wants the mini-Dokdo/Mistral..not the large one..tight budget.. haha
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ May 24 2013, 01:02 PM)
yeah..but navy wants the mini-Dokdo/Mistral..not the large one..tight budget.. haha
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Navy just need around 10 to 12k tonned vessel!
not just it will be expensive to procure but operate as well.
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QUOTE(azriel @ May 24 2013, 10:08 AM)
It's the Leopard 2A4. 63 unit to be upgraded into the MBT Revolution by Rheinmetall, 40 unit refurbished Leopard 2A4 & 10 supporting tanks.
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thanks. 2a4 w/ revolution upgrade. interesting.
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any hot intel regarding lahad datu culprits? i only heard some ridiculous rumours..
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ May 24 2013, 02:36 PM)
any hot intel regarding lahad datu culprits? i only heard some ridiculous rumours..
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pdrm surely have got something by now.i mean, they even worked together with the military Kor Risik..surely they have some hot intel..perhaps not enuff proof yet..
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navy ships is complicated -.-"
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QUOTE(faizyusof94 @ May 24 2013, 03:52 PM)
navy ships is complicated -.-"
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why is that?
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post May 24 2013, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ May 24 2013, 09:36 AM)
why do we even need dokdo/mistral class ship for? not like we have a lot of attack helis to begin with.
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ganti kd inderapura

then again, when u used kancil b4(suddenly burnt to ashes), and has growing family and you could afford to buy better car, would you still gonna buy another kancil? maybe u could buy viva or myvi(them indon makassar class, or french foundre class) but it's better to upgrade to alza(thus the dokdo)

but then again i have no problem at all if malaysia go the viva/myvi route. small car is better than no car at all
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U.S. Department of Defense
Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense (Public Affairs)
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22 May 2013 Wednesday | 5 p.m. ET

Raytheon / Lockheed Martin JAVELIN Joint Venture, Tucson, Ariz., was awarded a firm-fixed-price contract with a maximum value of $53,367,877 for the procurement of Javelin Block I Tactical Missile Rounds for the Army, Marine Corps and in support of foreign military sales (FMS). A portion of this contract will support FMS for Jordan and Indonesia. A combination of fiscal 2010 and fiscal 2013 Procurement funds are being obligated on this award. The Army Contracting Command, Redstone Arsenal, Ala., is the contracting activity (W31P4Q-13-C-0129).

http://www.defense.gov/contracts/contract....contractid=5046
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ May 24 2013, 11:47 PM)
ganti kd inderapura

then again, when u used kancil b4(suddenly burnt to ashes), and has growing family and you could afford to buy better car, would you still gonna buy another kancil? maybe u could buy viva or myvi(them indon makassar class, or french foundre class) but it's better to upgrade to alza(thus the dokdo)

but then again i have no problem at all if malaysia go the viva/myvi route. small car is better than no car at all
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Good comments.....hope you don't mind I expand it a little bit:

1. Our country is split into two i.e. East and West M'sia so an important function is for logistics.....moving troops and assets

2. Disaster relief and humanitarian assistance roles - for example if an area is hit by tsunami and ports in the area is unusable

3. Forced entry capability - helos could be used to ferry rapid response force ahead of the main troop and assets being brought to shore on board.

4. As a power projection asset

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ May 24 2013, 11:47 PM)
ganti kd inderapura

then again, when u used kancil b4(suddenly burnt to ashes), and has growing family and you could afford to buy better car, would you still gonna buy another kancil? maybe u could buy viva or myvi(them indon makassar class, or french foundre class) but it's better to upgrade to alza(thus the dokdo)

but then again i have no problem at all if malaysia go the viva/myvi route. small car is better than no car at all
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tbh we don really need dokdo class.
LDP will be more beneficial for our fleet addition.
unless we really does have huge budget for our military then I dun mind having 1. laugh.gif

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