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post May 2 2013, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(bai1101 @ May 2 2013, 11:45 AM)
btw need ask some question

SG have submarine??
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post May 6 2013, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ May 6 2013, 08:30 AM)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-03/indo...y-power/4666748

Indonesian president vows to outgun Australia

Indonesian president Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono says his country should strive to have a more powerful military than Australia.

About 16,000 Indonesian troops are preparing for joint military exercises in East Java.

Meeting with military commanders, Mr Yudhoyono told them that Indonesia's military should be bigger and more modern than countries like Australia, Singapore and Malaysia.

Indonesia's military boasts 470,000 active troops, while the Australian Defence Force has just over 80,000 full-time personnel and reservists..

It has also embarked on a military upgrade program, building warships and drones, as well buying fighter jets, helicopters and rockets.

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p/s: any indon members can id the missile at the background. terima kaseh
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post May 6 2013, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ May 6 2013, 09:06 AM)
1 single dig,despite with his highspeed F88 rifle and his top-of-the-line plate carrier, won't win against 1000+ bamboo-armed indon mobs screaming "durka durka"
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indon is like dothraki, cannot cross the ocean.
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post May 6 2013, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(hafizushi @ May 6 2013, 05:22 PM)
the way i see it, indon got no issue crossing the ocean they got a lot Makassar-class LPD

and their navy are well armed as well, from what i understand they got at least 6 sigma class frigate about to add 3 nakhoda class frigate maybe this year. They have about 10 frigate in total
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there's something called... the royal australian air force?
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post May 6 2013, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ May 6 2013, 07:12 PM)
what is the function of Marines actually? looks the same as what army does..army can borrow transportation from navy to assault beaches..
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amphibious assault. some country is under navy, some country put them under separate branch.
most of time used as expeditionary/rapid-deployment force.

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post May 7 2013, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ May 7 2013, 01:59 AM)
btw, 'Combat Countdown' in Discovery Channel listed PT-91Twardy as no. 7 in the top 10 best military assets.."combining the best of Western and Russian tech into one compact tank..", they say..
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top 10 tanks? didn't see pt-91?
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post May 7 2013, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ May 7 2013, 06:08 PM)
mehh..the show ridiculous anyway...when i say top 10 military assets, they literally combine air, land, and sea assets into the top 10..ridiculous to combine land, sea and air assets into a same list as they have different roles and needs..
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mohon link
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post May 8 2013, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(noavatar @ May 8 2013, 02:31 PM)
I believe that was the Australian newspaper wanting to juice up the issue...but still why a demonstration of invasion capability...in the face of peaceful neighbours...when they have a lot of internal security challenges in their hands:

Communal and religious violence
possible relapse of GAM (Free Acheh Movement)
Jemaah Islamiyah (e.g bombing at JW Merriot and Carlton)
West Papua
Natural disaster: flooding, landslides, earthquakes (that's why they need more transport aircraft)
trafficking
maintaining EEZ

as I mentioned...it was power projection...specifically...overlapping territorial claim....i.e. Ambalat....and dissatisfaction about Sipadan-Ligatan

This is entirely my opinion....maybe I am wrong

btw  you must consider SBY, a former general, was speaking at Latihan Gabungan 2013 in front of a large military crowd and, in the lead up to the 2014 presidential election
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SBY has quite an impressive military resume.
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post May 8 2013, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(noavatar @ May 8 2013, 11:44 PM)
What about Leclerc ?
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gila mahal.
27 million USD sebiji.

leo2 only 5-6 million USD sebiji.

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post May 11 2013, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(emanresu @ May 11 2013, 12:26 AM)
the carrier look nice, but how come cost billion $. just a pieces of stells
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kerana songlap.

oh, US? not malaysia?
then it cost billion cost it worth that much. US mana ade songlap!
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post May 11 2013, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ May 11 2013, 06:36 PM)
Operating cost also, it travels in a complete set of a battle group or the smallest one, a strike group.

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ur sarcasm detector not working?
just the carrier alone cost USD9 billion to build.

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post May 11 2013, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(noavatar @ May 11 2013, 11:10 PM)
sorry to say in united states also got

"'According to some estimates we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions,' Rumsfeld admitted. $2.3 trillion — that's $8,000 for every man, woman and child in America."
  -- CBS News, 1/29/02, U.S. Secretary of Defense raises evidence of government and military corruption

"A GAO report found Defense inventory systems so lax that the U.S. Army lost track of 56 airplanes, 32 tanks, and 36 Javelin missile command launch-units. When military leaders were scrambling to find enough chemical and biological warfare suits to protect U.S. troops, the department was caught selling these suits as surplus on the Internet 'for pennies on the dollar.'"
  -- San Francisco Chronicle, 5/18/03

"The Defense Department spent an estimated $100 million for airline tickets that were not used over a six-year period and failed to seek refunds even though the tickets were reimbursable."
  -- New York Times, 6/9/04
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banyak betul orang phail sarcasm hari ini...
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post May 12 2013, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ May 11 2013, 11:59 PM)
Steven Spielberg To Direct American Sniper Movie, Starring Bradley Cooper
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The Hollywood Reporter is reporting that Steven Spielberg will be directing a movie adaptation of Chris Kyle’s autobiography that will star Bradley Cooper …

"  Steven Spielberg has found his next directing project: an adaptation of American Sniper, the autobiography of Navy SEAL Chris Kyle, which is set up at Warner Bros.
    Bradley Cooper is attached to star and has been developing the project as a producer.
    A first-quarter 2014 start date is being targeted."
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this fella got killed back in us this year right?
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post May 12 2013, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(xtemujin @ May 12 2013, 05:35 PM)
ST Kinetics Compact Personal Weapon and new CIS-40 AGL MK2 .

http://sadefensejournal.com/wp/?p=1876
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they should really fix some of the ergo issues on the sar.

QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ May 12 2013, 09:59 PM)
If I am not mistaken,  sme ordnance manufacturers it, but it is designed by a Russian designer??
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bulgarian or ukrainian.
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post May 13 2013, 08:18 AM

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they could have started by building a modified AR/AK rifle and progress from there.
i.e. the singaporeans started by building a gas-piston AR clone (sar 80) way back in the 80s/90s.
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QUOTE(HangPC2 @ May 13 2013, 01:25 PM)
QBZ-95 Barrel cepat panas tak sesuai Malaysia Weather
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lol
u do realize certain parts of china can get as hot or hotter than malaysia?

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QUOTE(yinchet @ May 13 2013, 02:04 PM)
I prefer we take a look on XM-8 instead.
get ride of the heat problem we are good to go.
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but HK sure exp.

QUOTE(limfreelance @ May 13 2013, 02:06 PM)
sad..xm8 only prototype & sink after the 2008 economy.
It replace by HK 416 or Mk18.
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died way b4 that. 2005.

QUOTE(James831 @ May 13 2013, 02:31 PM)
I thought PASKAL is using it(or testing it)now?
ATM mainly using Steyr , M16 and M4 standard issue Rifle only?
are those Steyr and M16 being replace by M4 rifle?
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m16 -> steyr -> m4
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QUOTE(limfreelance @ May 13 2013, 02:39 PM)
copy rite for steyr expired. Malaysia bought the copy rite of M4, sad, M4 faced very bad problem during in desert environment.
That y US work with HK jemman to produce XM8, but stop by the crisis economi. Endup the pick the HK416 from jerman, MK16 from  Belgium, or the MK18 from USA.

M4 will slowly fully withdraw from USMC.
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not buy copyright, but licensing to manufacture locally.
m4 is just carbine version of m16, so it inherit the same pros (lightweight, accurate) and cons (reliability) of the m16.
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post May 14 2013, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ May 14 2013, 06:08 PM)
i remember reading it would take PLA roughly 3 days or so to defeat TW military and effectively conquer the island.
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ May 14 2013, 06:26 PM)
I think its 6 days based on simulation some years back. Though i think effective conquer wont be so easy since taiwan's heavily built urban jungle.
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OK.
last time i heard from many tw-educated seniors in the 60s/70s that tw's national service was pretty brutal, but hardly hear much about TW NS nowadays.


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