QUOTE(yinchet @ May 9 2013, 12:02 AM)
7.5 million for C1, some other website said 8 millionhttp://www.therichest.org/most-expensive/t...s-in-the-world/
Military Thread V9, Happy birthday Malaysia & ATM ke 50 & 80
|
|
May 9 2013, 09:23 AM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
137 posts Joined: Oct 2006 |
QUOTE(yinchet @ May 9 2013, 12:02 AM) 7.5 million for C1, some other website said 8 millionhttp://www.therichest.org/most-expensive/t...s-in-the-world/ |
|
|
May 9 2013, 10:43 AM
|
![]()
Newbie
4 posts Joined: Jan 2012 |
QUOTE(FlameReaper @ May 9 2013, 03:10 AM) Why the ATM doesn't choose it over the PT-91 does spark some curiosity... although I'd rather have someone in the know to explain, if the information is open for public knowledge. PT-91 was chosen bcoz Poland is the only country that would accept a barter deal with Malaysia. A political decision also plays a part in it. Well at least that was what was said by a Polish member in a tank discussion.http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showt...and-video/page3 This post has been edited by azriel: May 9 2013, 11:38 AM |
|
|
May 9 2013, 11:07 AM
|
![]()
Junior Member
39 posts Joined: Jun 2008 |
The U.S. Army's New 84-Ton Tank Prototype Is Nearly IED-Proof
The new Ground Combat Vehicle weighs twice as much as the tank it's designed to replace, and it's massive enough to survive a roadside bomb. ![]() The Ground Combat Vehicle U.S. Army Heavy does not even begin to describe the U.S. Army's new tank. At 84 tons, the Ground Combat Vehicle prototype weighs more than twice as much as its predecessor, the Bradley Fighting Vehicle. The Bradley is designed to carry a six-man squad (and three-man driving crew) into combat, while the GCV will carry a larger, nine-man squad. Both vehicles will provide covering fire and damage enemy tanks. But the military has built the new GCV to withstand a kind of threat that didn't exist when the Bradley was deployed in the early 1980s: improvised explosive devices. Part of logic behind the new tank's massive size is that soldiers inside a vehicle are more likely to survive an explosion if there's adequate space for them to wear armor while seated. The extra space also helps distribute pressure from the blast and thus lessens its impact. Another reason the GCV is so huge is that it's required to carry a larger gun than the Bradley does; the new tank will hold a 30mm cannon, probably the 344-pound Mk44 Bushmaster II. Finally, the GCV's extra weight means it will need to be manufactured from the start with a more powerful engine. (By contrast, the Bradley got heavier as the Army added armor to it in Iraq, and its original engine wasn't powerful enough to support the extra weight.) The Ground Combat Vehicle is pretty much the opposite of the original plan to replace the Bradley. A high-concept proposal called Future Combat Systems aimed to make all U.S. Army vehicles lighter. But during the long ground wars in Iraq and Afghanistan (in which IEDs were the top cause of fatalities), it became clear clear that heavier, not lighter, was the better vehicle design. The U.S. canceled the Future Combat Systems program, and work on the GCV began in 2009. The Pentagon is scheduled to award the first contract to manufacture GCVs in 2019. |
|
|
May 9 2013, 11:48 AM
|
|
Elite
1,157 posts Joined: Jul 2008 From: Petaling Jaya |
QUOTE(waja2000 @ May 9 2013, 09:23 AM) 7.5 million for C1, some other website said 8 million C1 would be more expensive than that. http://www.therichest.org/most-expensive/t...s-in-the-world/ |
|
|
May 9 2013, 11:52 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
2,514 posts Joined: Jun 2010 From: [Confidential] |
QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ May 9 2013, 11:07 AM) The U.S. Army's New 84-Ton Tank Prototype Is Nearly IED-Proof Fuuuu... beats the M1A2 Abrams (68Tonnes) The new Ground Combat Vehicle weighs twice as much as the tank it's designed to replace, and it's massive enough to survive a roadside bomb. ![]() The Ground Combat Vehicle U.S. Army Heavy does not even begin to describe the U.S. Army's new tank. At 84 tons, the Ground Combat Vehicle prototype weighs more than twice as much as its predecessor, the Bradley Fighting Vehicle. The Bradley is designed to carry a six-man squad (and three-man driving crew) into combat, while the GCV will carry a larger, nine-man squad. Both vehicles will provide covering fire and damage enemy tanks. But the military has built the new GCV to withstand a kind of threat that didn't exist when the Bradley was deployed in the early 1980s: improvised explosive devices. Part of logic behind the new tank's massive size is that soldiers inside a vehicle are more likely to survive an explosion if there's adequate space for them to wear armor while seated. The extra space also helps distribute pressure from the blast and thus lessens its impact. Another reason the GCV is so huge is that it's required to carry a larger gun than the Bradley does; the new tank will hold a 30mm cannon, probably the 344-pound Mk44 Bushmaster II. Finally, the GCV's extra weight means it will need to be manufactured from the start with a more powerful engine. (By contrast, the Bradley got heavier as the Army added armor to it in Iraq, and its original engine wasn't powerful enough to support the extra weight.) The Ground Combat Vehicle is pretty much the opposite of the original plan to replace the Bradley. A high-concept proposal called Future Combat Systems aimed to make all U.S. Army vehicles lighter. But during the long ground wars in Iraq and Afghanistan (in which IEDs were the top cause of fatalities), it became clear clear that heavier, not lighter, was the better vehicle design. The U.S. canceled the Future Combat Systems program, and work on the GCV began in 2009. The Pentagon is scheduled to award the first contract to manufacture GCVs in 2019. |
|
|
May 9 2013, 12:21 PM
|
![]()
Newbie
4 posts Joined: Jan 2012 |
PT. DI's new CN-235 MPA + Winglet freshly painted with the Indonesian Navy livery.
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() source This post has been edited by azriel: May 9 2013, 12:24 PM |
|
|
May 9 2013, 12:23 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
406 posts Joined: Jun 2007 From: 3°50'**.**"N - 103°16'**.**"E |
QUOTE(FlameReaper @ May 9 2013, 03:10 AM) Why the ATM doesn't choose it over the PT-91 does spark some curiosity... although I'd rather have someone in the know to explain, if the information is open for public knowledge. the T90 did not even make it to the final round , only the PT91 and the T84 are in the finalsand the PT91 was chosen as winner due to parts availbility! |
|
|
May 9 2013, 12:57 PM
|
![]()
Newbie
0 posts Joined: Mar 2013 |
Turkish Tanks Head For Saudi Arabia
![]() May 8, 2013: Saudi Arabia has agreed to buy some of the new Turkish Altay tanks. The exact number has not been revealed but the Saudis do have 320 elderly AMX-30 French tanks in urgent need of replacement. The Turkish Army is planning on buying a thousand of the new Altays for about $5.5 million each. These will be acquired four lots of 250 each and not all may be needed (depending on the regional military-political situation. The Turkish Army currently has 720 German Leopard 1 and 2 tanks, 930 American M-60s and 1,370 American M-48s Most (except for the Leopard 2s) are quite old and need replacing soon. Turkey doesn’t really need 3,000 tanks when half the number of more modern ones would do. Altay is similar to the 338 Leopard 2s the Turks currently have. Most of the rest are Cold War era tanks and rapidly approaching retirement age. Yet another reason for the Saudis to buy hundreds of Altays is to cement an unofficial alliance with Turkey against Iran and anyone else who might threaten Saudi Arabia and its immediate neighbors. Earlier France proposed replacing the French made AMX-30s with the AMX-56 Leclerc. The 65 ton Altay seems a better fit than the 55 ton Leclerc and Turkey is a lot closer than France. Moreover the Altay is similar in many ways to the 400 M1 tanks the Saudis have (in service or on order). Both have a 120mm gun, composite armor and high-end electronics. The two tanks are so similar because two years ago Turkey paid South Korea $400 million for rights to much of the technology in the new 55 ton South Korean K2 tank. This vehicle was in turn based on the 1980s K1, which deliberately emulated the M1 design in many ways and did so with the cooperation of the United States. The K1 and K2 proved to be successful designs and the Turks already had decades of experience maintaining and upgrading American M-60 tanks (the predecessor of the M1). With the addition of the South Korean tech the Altay rapidly took shape. The K2 has a number of new electronic defenses. These include a laser detector that will instantly tell the crew the direction the enemy laser beam is coming from. Most tanks use a laser range finder before it fires its main gun. The K2 fire control system also enables the main gun (120mm) to be used to hit low flying aircraft (helicopters, mostly). There are also numerous improvements to the K1 mechanical and electronic systems, as well as more armor (both composite and ERA). This will make the K2 easier to use and maintain. An autoloader reduces the crew to three men. The Altay is more heavily armored than the K2 and does not use the auto-loader. Source: StrategyWorld |
|
|
May 9 2013, 01:31 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
575 posts Joined: Feb 2013 |
|
|
|
May 9 2013, 01:37 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
575 posts Joined: Feb 2013 |
QUOTE(heavyduty @ May 9 2013, 07:30 AM) fine,put some of those 90mm cockerill guns on the Adnan .The army ordered some ACVS for mortars,add some more for scorpion replacement that looks neat! still, i prefer combining the CV-90s and Adnan in one mechanized brigade though..An armoured fire support weapon which will sustain the ACV-300 production line for a couple more years,reasonably heavy,and with 200+ adnans already in service,logistics and crew training wont be a problem wider tracks doesn't matter when you can't cross bridges |
|
|
May 9 2013, 03:48 PM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
152 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: somewhere in PJ |
should weight limitation to be a requirement for future purchase of MBT for ATM?
|
|
|
May 9 2013, 03:51 PM
|
|
Elite
1,157 posts Joined: Jul 2008 From: Petaling Jaya |
|
|
|
May 9 2013, 03:53 PM
|
![]()
Junior Member
28 posts Joined: Aug 2010 |
|
|
|
May 9 2013, 03:58 PM
|
![]()
Junior Member
39 posts Joined: Jun 2008 |
What's the news on our old scorpion and stormer, are they retired ady?
|
|
|
May 9 2013, 04:00 PM
|
|
Elite
1,157 posts Joined: Jul 2008 From: Petaling Jaya |
QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ May 9 2013, 07:33 AM) wont.it were low recoil turret. QUOTE(hafizushi @ May 9 2013, 03:53 PM) i agree, we should be looking at combining the CV90t 120mm cannon with Adnan I looking for cv90120T with cv90amos.Also i would equipped adnan with TOW missile if possible would be a bonus we get another atgm variant. QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ May 9 2013, 03:58 PM) we are still using it. |
|
|
May 9 2013, 04:11 PM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
127 posts Joined: Aug 2010 |
QUOTE(hafizushi @ May 9 2013, 03:53 PM) i agree, we should be looking at combining the CV90t 120mm cannon with Adnan It would be better just to mount a dedicated TOW launcher like they did with the bakhtar shikan because turret mounted TOWs like the M901 are known to be crapAlso i would equipped adnan with TOW missile if possible M901 and NM142? |
|
|
May 9 2013, 04:56 PM
|
![]()
Junior Member
28 posts Joined: Aug 2010 |
QUOTE(heavyduty @ May 9 2013, 04:11 PM) It would be better just to mount a dedicated TOW launcher like they did with the bakhtar shikan because turret mounted TOWs like the M901 are known to be crap i like Adnan be to like bradley FV, with tow missileM901 and NM142? i heard bradley kill more armored vehicle than m1a2 abrams in iraqi war This post has been edited by hafizushi: May 9 2013, 04:57 PM |
|
|
May 9 2013, 06:06 PM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
127 posts Joined: Aug 2010 |
the M3 bradley,as a reconnaissance vehicle made first contact with the enemy so its not suprising they had more kills.I doubt most of it was the result of TOW hits.the vehicle needed to be stationary and its take a lot of time to set up the TOW,it is only used during an ambush or fired at stand off range
you have to take into account the human factor,shit like number of kills is grossly exaggerated |
|
|
May 9 2013, 08:05 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]()
Junior Member
408 posts Joined: Nov 2006 From: LANGKASUKA مليسيا |
NAVAIR : X-47B Completes First Shore-Based Arrested Landing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxWTqHiy3RM |
|
|
May 9 2013, 09:14 PM
|
![]()
Junior Member
25 posts Joined: Jul 2008 |
QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ May 9 2013, 11:07 AM) The U.S. Army's New 84-Ton Tank Prototype Is Nearly IED-Proof Gila babi berat. what kind of dimension will this be ? and them fuel supply.The new Ground Combat Vehicle weighs twice as much as the tank it's designed to replace, and it's massive enough to survive a roadside bomb. ![]() The Ground Combat Vehicle U.S. Army » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
| Bump Topic Topic ClosedOptions New Topic |
| Change to: | 0.0312sec
0.55
5 queries
GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 5th December 2025 - 07:43 AM |