I believe that was the Australian newspaper wanting to juice up the issue...but still why a demonstration of invasion capability...in the face of peaceful neighbours...when they have a lot of internal security challenges in their hands:

Communal and religious violence
possible relapse of GAM (Free Acheh Movement)
Jemaah Islamiyah (e.g bombing at JW Merriot and Carlton)
West Papua
Natural disaster: flooding, landslides, earthquakes (that's why they need more transport aircraft)
trafficking
maintaining EEZ

as I mentioned...it was power projection...specifically...overlapping territorial claim....i.e. Ambalat....and dissatisfaction about Sipadan-Ligatan

This is entirely my opinion....maybe I am wrong

btw you must consider SBY, a former general, was speaking at Latihan Gabungan 2013 in front of a large military crowd and, in the lead up to the 2014 presidential election

This post has been edited by noavatar: May 8 2013, 02:36 PM

SBY has quite an impressive military resume.

How do Indonesia’s police do crowd control? ‘Gangnam Style’, of course



Indonesian policewoman and demonstrators break out into a ‘Gangnam Style’ dance performance while securing a Labor Day rally in front of the city hall of Surabaya in East Java province on May 1, 2013. (AFP Photo/Juni Kriswanto)

he's not one of the "inner circle" people (as opposed to wiranto and co). so he may get challenge from other ex general as well

having said that, being out of said "circle", that means he has better background record than the likes of wiranto and co. no illicit ops, etc

if izzah gonna whine about future sub acquisiton memang babi la beliau

pepol who songlap duit from military acquisition, meant for the defence of the country tu la yg lagi babi

I am not much into politics but this might show the point




Now.....What is there to critic about?

u mean taking a profit margin as songlap ka? besides why did she go to indon and speaks about malaysian military capability anyway? i doubt it's about transparency

TNI Joint Military Exercise 2013 - BMP-3F Amphibious Beach Landing.









This post has been edited by azriel: May 8 2013, 03:18 PM

so, its ok for political leaders to take a profit margin as their own money? ..only in Malaysia that considered OK by some pepol..

greedy bastards who siphon public money and hiding it in the name of 'security' is natang babi

izzah is just maintaining check and balance

Whatever it is....national security is very important....don't play with it....haven't we learn from Lahad Datu...U all might not remember Darurat or Konfrontasi....I was a boy back then...back in 1964 there was an airborne landing by Indonesian paratroopers near Labis, Johore, during the Konfrontasi.

The paras were sent in three Indonesian Air Force aircraft from Jakarta....however only two aircraft managed to reach Labis....the third aircraft crashed into the Straits of Malacca while trying to evade RAF Air Squadron from Singapore. There was a storm around Labis....so the nearly hundred paras were dispersed and cannot regroup. It took about a month to round up the paratroopers.

Source: Australian Dept of Defence
6 May 2013

Australia and Indonesia will conduct a joint civil-military seminar in Sentul, near Jakarta on 7 May 2013, Minister for Defence Materiel Dr Mike Kelly AM MP announced today.

The seminar will include senior representatives from the Australian Civil-Military Centre (ACMC) and the Indonesian Peacekeeping Centre (PMPP).

“The 2013 Defence White Paper reaffirmed the important role international engagement has in maintaining a secure and stable region. This seminar is a practical example of Australia’s commitment to further strengthen and broaden relationships with our neighbours including Indonesia,” Dr Kelly said.

i don't really understand the business procedures in arms acquisition by Mindef too actually..but from what i understand in some other military blogs, we can't directly do business with some arms company because they have no branch or base in this country..also to ensure Malaysia can build their own assets in the future, although Army prefers only procuring, Mindef always looks for transfers of weapons technology..like the AV-8 program, Irkut company..facilities are being build to make sure we can build those weapon ourselves..i don't understand how planning to build more jobs and education about arms for Malaysians in weapon industries is a bad thing..except if there is rasuah..

This was the Press Realease by Mindef courtesy of Bernama re: Subs And Fighters Procurement


KUALA LUMPUR, April 26 (Bernama) -- The Defence Ministry (Mindef) today refuted allegations by certain quarters that there had been hanky-panky in the procurement of Sukhoi fighter jets and Scorpene submarines for the Malaysian Defence Forces (ATM).

In a statement here today, Mindef said that their procurements were above board and in accordance with procedures set.

They involved various levels of approvals including by a Technical Committee and a Price Negotiation committee after exhaustive studies on their purchase were made to ensure that needs of the ATM were met, said the statement.

It was issued to clarify negative remarks made about the procurements by certain political figures from the opposition who had alleged that there had been hanky-panky in the purchase of the jets and submarines.

According to the statement, before approval (for the purchases) was obtained, references were made to the Attorney-General's Department.

All the terms and approvals for negotiating the purchases were then submitted to the Finance Ministry (MOF)and the purchase contracts were only signed after the MOF gave the go ahead, said the statement.

Mindef also denied that the government had paid a RM540 million commission to political analyst Abdul Razak Baginda (now facing a charge of abetment in the murder of a Mongolian woman) or making any payment to Perimekar Sdn Bhd, in the procurement of the Scorpene submarines and described allegations that it did as baseless.

The Scorpenes procurement were done on a direct negotiation basis with the principals, ARMARIS of France and NAVANTIA of Spain, with both companies having obtained the permission of the respective governments for the transactions.

Perimekar Sdn Bhd actually was given a contract to provide support and coordination services regarding the procurement worth Euro 114.96 million (RM540 million), progressively payable until the end of the procurement process.

Perimekar is jointly owned by Lembaga Tabung Angkatan Tentera (LTAT), Boustead Holdings Bhd and K.S. Ombak Laut Sdn Bhd.

The statement further said that the scope of support services also included providing accommodation facilities and ancillary equipment besides insurance coverage for 27 families in the project team in France and Spain for six years.

The company also had to provide a management office and accommodation for 156 Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN) sailors in France and Spain for four years, and pay them daily allowances of Euro 50 each for the first three years and Euro 60 each for the next three.

Perimekar also had to defray the flight costs for the submarine crew to return to Malaysia once very four months (three times a year) besides looking into their other needs during their stay in France and Spain, the statement added.

Among the coordination services by Perimekar were involving Malaysian companies to participate in the construction of the subs and helping Malaysian companies with potential to take part in offset programmes arising, coordinate the RMN sailors training for submarine operations and provide update reports every six months.

Mindef also clarified that the Euro 114.96 million was not Perimekar Sdn Bhd's nett profit but involved direct and indirect costs as stated in its contract.

On the Sukhoi SU30MKM procurement, Mindef explained that it was done through direct negotiations with its principals, Rosoboronexport, which is owned by the Russian government.

Direct negotiations were required by Russia and it was the same with other countries that traded in military hardware, the ministry said.

All the procurement contracts were signed by a Mindef representative on behalf of the Government of Malaysia with the principals, it added.

The purchase of the jets were also in accordance to procedures, said Mindef.

Mindef also said that Rosboronexport appointed a local company to make it easier to facilitate its (Rosboronexport's) dealings in Malaysia and that the government was not involved in any way in the appointment (of the local company).

With the explanation, the Ministry hoped all parties would understand the true situation and not make statements that only created confusion and cast the ATM, Mindef and the government in a negative light.

-- BERNAMA

It is just that most normalfags don't understand the deal includes building a factory and RND for 12 variants for the AV-8 case for example. They seriously believe the procurement is overpriced without truly inspecting the details of the deal.

source

Hispano HA-200









The Hispano HA-200 Saeta was a 1950s Spanish two-seat advanced jet trainer produced by Hispano Aviación. It was later developed into the Hispano Aviación Ha-220 " Super Saeta " which was given an attack capability.

The HA-200 Saeta (Arrow) was the first Spanish turbojet aircraft. It was designed by Willy Messerschmitt as the earlier piston-powered trainer HA-100 Triana. The HA-200 was a low-winged monoplane of all metal construction, with a tricycle undercarriage. It was powered by two Turboméca Marboré mounted side by-side in the forward fuselage and fed from an intake in the nose, exhausting from nozzles just aft of the wing trailing edge. The crew of two was accommodated in tandem in a pressurized cockpit, the first to be Spanish built and designed.

The prototype first flew on 12 August 1955, and the first production aircraft flew in October 1962. The HA-200A aircraft were delivered to the Spanish Air Force with the designation E.14. A single seat version (the HA-220) for the ground-attack role was developed and delivered to the Spanish Air Force with the designation C.10, first flying on 25 April 1970,[3] remaining in service until the end of 1981.

The aircraft was built in Egypt under license as the Helwan HA-200B Al-Kahira by the Helwan Air Works * Now (Arab Organization for Industrialization) .



Helwan HA-200B Al-Kahira (Al-Qahira)

any word on procurement now that GE over?

I dun really mind if the opposition bs crap out.
it would let the procurement under highlights which is a good thing as many malaysian dun care about such thing.