QUOTE(azriel @ May 10 2013, 02:25 PM)
The big problem for Australia tiger ARH is sux.they should have select the tiger HAD variant. the best variant.
Military Thread V9, Happy birthday Malaysia & ATM ke 50 & 80
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 May 10 2013, 02:28 PM
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they should have select the tiger HAD variant. the best variant. |
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May 10 2013, 02:45 PM
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Indonesia To Hold Largest Military Exercise Next Year
SANGATTA (East Kalimantan) May 10 (Bernama) - The National Defense Force or TNI will hold the largest military exercise in the country next year, Indonesian news agency ANTARA reported. In 2014, Indonesia will hold two military exercises consisting of a fast reaction force (PPRC) exercise at battalion level and a joint combat exercise involving the Army, Navy and Air Force as the last activity of the second United Indonesia Cabinet, TNI Chief Admiral Agus Suhartono said Thursday. "The most complete and biggest-ever exercise will be held late September or early October to demonstrate all of the military's main armament systems procured by the Defense Ministry and the TNI," he said. The TNI will demonstrate the capability of the entire military equipment and combat force as part of the government and TNI's responsibilities to the people, Suhartono said. "As 2014 is the final year of the second United Indonesia Cabinet's tasks, one of the activities high on the TNI's agenda is demonstrating all military development programmes next year," he said. Suhartono said all programmes to develop minimum main forces will not be completed by 2014 as they will continue until 2024. However, nearly 20 percent of the programmes will have been completed by 2014. "Nearly 40 percent of the programmes have been completed, thanks to the role and support of the House of Representatives Commission I," Suhartono said. -- BERNAMA Source: BERNAMA |
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May 10 2013, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ May 10 2013, 01:43 PM) Their coast guard admitted they shot the fishing boat. Claim that the fishing boat trying to ram their armed vessel. China already responded:» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Expect big brother China to pay a visit.  TAIPEI, Taiwan -- (AP) The shooting death of a Taiwanese fisherman by the Philippine coast guard has become the latest incident to roil tensions over territorial disputes in and around the South China Sea, with Taipei calling Friday for Manila to apologize for the shooting. Taiwan said that the Philippine Coast Guard opened fire Thursday on a 65-year-old fisherman in waters claimed by both governments. The Philippines acknowledged the Taiwanese claim, but said its personnel were acting in self-defense. Meanwhile China sought to make common cause with Taiwan against Manila, deploring the shooting in harsh rhetoric that threatened to spark another diplomatic tussle between Beijing and the Philippines, a key U.S. ally in one of Asia's most contentious areas. Speaking to reporters in Taipei, Foreign Minister David Lin blamed the Philippine coast guard for opening fire on the fisherman's boat, the Kuang Ta Hsing No. 28, on Thursday, from a vessel belonging to the fisheries department of the Philippines Department of Agriculture in the Bashi Strait, about midway between southern Taiwan and the northern Philippines. "We strongly condemn the fatal shooting of a Taiwanese fisherman by the Philippine fishery department," Lin said. "We urge the Philippine government to open a full investigation on this case and send their apology to Taiwan's government." Even before Lin spoke, the Chinese Foreign Ministry in Beijing had condemned the incident, a clear attempt to make common cause with Taiwan on a matter of nationalistic pride involving disputed maritime territory. Spokeswoman Hua Chunying called it a "brutal act" and echoed Taiwan's demand that Manila investigate. "We are expressing our deep grief on the death of the Taiwan compatriot and condolences to the victim's family," Hua said. Taiwan and China split amid civil war in 1949 and Beijing continues to claim the democratic island as part of its territory. In recent months it has made repeated attempts to bring Taiwan onto its side in its maritime disputes with Japan and other countries in the region. Taiwan has so far resisted, reflecting its own claims of national sovereignty. Underscoring China's interest in playing the incident up, government channel CCTV led its noontime news on Friday with an emotional report on the death of the Taiwanese fisherman, and the Communist Party-controlled Global Times newspaper called on the Chinese navy to increase its presence in the South China Sea, amid angry condemnations of the Philippines as a "savage" country. Taiwan's freewheeling media also gave prominent attention to the incident, with newspapers reporting it in banner headlines and cable TV news stations giving it round the clock coverage. In Manila, the Philippine coast guard acknowledged that its personnel had opened fire on the Taiwanese boat, but claimed they acted in self-defense. "They were forced to fire the shots because the fishing vessel attempted to ram them," said coast guard chief Rear Admiral Rodolfo Isorena. Isorena said an investigation into the incident was being launched. Relations between the Philippines and China, already hampered by simmering tensions over the Spratly Islands, deteriorated sharply last year when Chinese maritime vessels took control of a disputed shoal in the South China Sea. The Philippines has turned to its American ally to beef up its dilapidated military assets and train its forces, and angered Beijing by seeking U.N. arbitration on South China Sea disputes. ___ |
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May 10 2013, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE(noavatar @ May 10 2013, 01:29 PM) VOTE YOUR ATTACK HELOS yinchet please make a poll on 1st pageAgustaWestland A/T 129 Mangusta (Italy)  Operators: Italian Army, Turkish Army Maximum speed: 278 km/h (148 knots, 170 mph) Cruise speed: 229 km/h (135 knots, 155 mph) Range: 510 km (275 nm, 320 mi) Ferry range: 1,000 km (540 nm, 620 mi) Service ceiling: 4,725 m (15,500 ft) Rate of climb: 10.2 m/s (2,025 ft/min) Bell AH-1 SuperCobra / Zulu Cobra / Viper (USA)  Operators (current/former): Imperial Iranian Army (former operator), Islamic Republic of Iran Army, Republic of China, Republic of China Army (Taiwan), Republic of Korea Army, Turkish Army, United States Marine Corps Never exceed speed: 190 knots (219 mph, 352 km/h) Maximum speed: 152 knots (175 mph, 282 km/h) Range: 311 nmi (358 mi, 576 km) Service ceiling: 10,500 ft (3,215 m) Rate of climb: 1,090 ft/min (5.54 m/s) Denel AH-2 Rooivalk (South Africa)  Operators: South African Air Force Never exceed speed: 309 km/h (167 knots, 193 mph) Cruise speed: 278 km/h (150 knots, 173 mph) at sea level (max cruise) Range: 740 km (380 nmi, 437 mi) at sea level(max internal fuel) Ferry range: 1,335 km (720 nmi, 829 mi) at 1525 m (5,000 ft) (max external fuel) Service ceiling: 6,100 m (20,000 ft) Rate of climb: 13.3 m/s (2,620 ft/min) Eurocopter EC 665 Tiger (France, Germany, Spain)  Operators: Australian Army, French Army, German Army, Spanish Army Maximum speed: 290 km/h with mast, 315 km/h without mast (157 knots, 181 mph with mast, 170 knots or 196 mph without mast) Range: 800 km (430 nm, 500 mi) combat (with external tanks in the inboard stations: 1,300km) Service ceiling: 4,000 m (13,000 ft) Rate of climb: 10.7 m/s (2,105 ft/min) Hughes (later McDonnell Douglas/Boeing) AH-64 Apache (USA)  Operators: Egyptian Air Force, Hellenic Army, Israeli Air Force, Japan Ground Self-Defense Force, Kuwait Air Force, Royal Netherlands Air Force, Royal Saudi Land Forces, Republic of Singapore Air Force, Republic of China Army, United Arab Emirates Air Force, British Army Air Corps (AgustaWestland AH Mk 1 Apache), United States Army Never exceed speed: 365 km/h (197 knots, 227 mph) Maximum speed: 293 km/h (158 knots, 182 mph) Cruise speed: 259 km/h (140 knots, 161 mph) Range: 537 km (290 nmi, 334 mi) Ferry range: 1,700 km (974 nmi, 1,121 mi) Service ceiling: 6,400 m (21,000 ft) Rate of climb: 12.7 m/s (2,500 ft/min) Mil Mi-24 "Hind" (Russia)  Operators (current): Afghan Air Force, Algerian Air Force,Defence Force of Angola, Armenian Air Force, Azerbaijani Air Forces,Belarus Air Force, Brazilian Air Force, Bulgarian Air Force, Burundi Army Aviation,Burkina Faso Air Force, Chadian Air Force, Congolese Air Force, Congolese Democratic Air Force, Cuban Air Force, Cyprus Air Forces, Czech Air Force, Djibouti Air Force, Military of Equatorial Guinea , Eritrean Air Force, Ethiopian Air Force, Georgian Air Force, Military of Guinea, Hungarian Air Force, Indian Air Force, Indonesian Army, Military of Kazakhstan, Military of Kyrgyzstan, Free Libyan Air Force, Macedonian Air Force, Air Force of Mali, Mongolian Air Force, Military of Mozambique, Myanmar Air Force, Namibian Air Force, Air Force of Niger, Nigerian Air Force, North Korean Air Force, Pakistan Air Force, Peruvian Air Force, Polish Air Force, Polish Land Forces, Russian Air Force, Military of Rwanda, Senegalese Air Force, Sierra Leone Air Wing, Sri Lanka Air Force, Sudanese Air Force, Syrian Air Force, Military of Tajikistan, Military of Turkmenistan, Ugandan Air Force, Ukrainian Ground Forces, United States Army, Military of Uzbekistan, Army of Venezuela, Vietnam People's Air Force, Yemen Air Force, Air Force of Zimbabwe Maximum speed: 335 km/h (208 mph) Range: 450 km (280 miles) Service ceiling: 4,500 m (14,750 ft) Mil Mi-28 "Havoc" (Russia)  Operators: Kenya Army, Russian Air Force Maximum speed: 320 km/h (172 knots, 199 mph) Cruise speed: 270 km/h (145 knots, 168 mph) Range: 435 km (234 nmi, 270 mi) Combat radius: 200 km (108 nmi, 124 mi) ; with 10 min loiter and 5% reserves Ferry range: 1,100 km (593 nmi, 683 mi) Service ceiling: 5,700 m (19,000 ft) Rate of climb: 13.6 m/s (2,677 ft/min) Kamov Ka-50 "Black Shark" (Russia)  Operators: Russian Air Force Never exceed speed: 350 km/h (189 knots, 217 mph) in dive Maximum speed: 315 km/h (170 knots, 196 mph) in level flight Cruise speed: 270 km/h (146 knots, 168 mph) Range: 545 km (339 miles) Ferry range: 1,160 km (720 mi) with 4 drop tanks Service ceiling: 5,500 m (18,000 ft) Rate of climb: 10 m/s (32.8 ft/s) Disc loading: 30 kg/m² (6 lb/ft²) Power/mass: 0.33 kW/kg (0.20 hp/lb) hehhee |
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May 10 2013, 03:02 PM
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ May 10 2013, 02:58 PM) yinchet please make a poll on 1st page how to add poll? hehhee  |
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May 10 2013, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE(yinchet @ May 10 2013, 03:02 PM) how to add poll? Edit first post IINM!the lower part have poll option |
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May 10 2013, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ May 10 2013, 06:43 PM) Edit first post IINM! tak ada wor. the lower part have poll option  |
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May 10 2013, 06:50 PM
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alamak, ye ke
hahaha next thread la kot hehehe |
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May 10 2013, 06:51 PM
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Can only add poll when starting new thread only what?
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May 10 2013, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE(MichaelJohn @ May 10 2013, 06:51 PM) Can only add poll when starting new thread only what? Viper and Tiger for meI choose between the Apache and Viper reading the post from marines in the militaryphotos clearly the Cobra is winrar! |
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May 10 2013, 07:01 PM
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viper is one of the best of all.
but must add crv7 rocket pod which is the best of the best. |
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May 10 2013, 07:05 PM
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I support Tiger, 2nd is Rooivalk
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May 10 2013, 07:13 PM
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i actually like the blackshark personally. but will never get choosen
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May 10 2013, 07:40 PM
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QUOTE(souless223 @ May 10 2013, 07:13 PM) i actually like the blackshark personally. but will never get choosen I also like the Blackshark.....some of its interesting features:-The Ka-50 was designed to be small, fast and agile to improve survivability and lethality. With minimal weight and size it means maximum speed and agility. The cockpit is framed with steel aluminium shields weighing, which makes it practically impenetrable to 20-mm shells. -It is uniquely among gunships–to be operated by a single pilot only which reduced both fuselage weight and cross-section. Kamov concluded after thorough research of helicopter combat in Afghanistan and other war zones, that with well-designed support automation a single pilot can carry out the entire mission alone. For example when a tank appears at a range of 8-10 km all the pilot needs to do is to frame it, switch on the automatic lock-on mode and open fire. - With its coaxial contra-rotating rotor system it has no tail rotor. Because of this, it is unaffected by wind strength and direction, has an unlimited hovering turn rate, and gives a smaller profile and acoustic signature. It also means that it can perform maneuvers that is referred to as super-agility. So it is fully aerobatic and can perform loops, roll, and so on. - The Ka-50 is the first helicopter to receive an ejection seat, so that the pilot can eject to safety the way a fighter pilot does. Explosives in the rotor head blow off the rotor blades, in order to clear the seats’ exit path. The Ka-50's avionics ensure automatic flight and landing in case the pilot blacks out. - It has a remote targeting system with a capability to provide for a sudden attack from a distance without direct visual contact with the target. This gives a better chance against Imaging Infra Red operators. The firing computer will turn the aircraft to keep the gun on target. It is equipped with downlink to provide information from the battlefield. -The vulnerable boom and rear gearbox are fairly common causes of helicopter losses in combat; the Black Shark's entire transmission presents a comparatively small target to ground fire. Kamov maintains that the co-axial drive assembly is built to survive hits from 23 mm ammunition. The rotor blades are made of super-strong composites. They can provide adequate lift after sustaining several bullet holes. -It was designed for remote operations, and not to need ground maintenance facilities for 2 weeks. You can read the story of the Blackshark at the following links: The history of the Black Shark (Part1) http://en.rian.ru/analysis/20070130/59927298.html The history of the Black Shark (Part 2) http://en.rian.ru/analysis/20070131/59996649.html The history of the Black Shark (Part 3) http://en.rian.ru/analysis/20070201/60066880.html The Russian learnt a lot about attack helos deployment especially during the Chechnyan War and Blackshark is one of the development based on Afghan and Chechyan experience. I quote the following from the paper The War in Chechnya: A Military Analysis by G.D. Bakshi, Army Officer, (The Blackshark was not fielded in the operations) "Helicopters took heavy losses from Chechen ZU-23 AD guns and Dshk Machine guns mounted on jeeps and Toyota trucks. Besides, they used Strellas, Iglas and Stinger SAMS. An interesting feature was the Chechen use of RPG-7 Anti Tank Rocket Launchers against helicopters. Five helicopters (two Mi-8s and three Mi-24s) were lost in the first three months of the conflict. By the end of the first Chechen campaign, statistics indicated that every tenth Russian helicopter was lost and every fourth damaged. The noise of the helicopters alerted the opposition and its slow flight speed permitted them to lay ambushes for these. The Chechens employed a unique tactic. They would pinpoint the location of the Forward Air Controller (FAC) aircraft by radio direction finders and ambush them regularly." PS. The Ka-52 “Alligator” is a 2-seat version of the Ka-50, using a side by side instead of the tendem layout common in attack helicopters. Kamov design this variant as a dedicated helicopter to conduct battlefield reconnaissance, provide target designation and support group attack helicopter operations. This changes the helicopter’s aerodynamics somewhat, reducing maximum speed from 310 km/h to 300 km/h (192 – 186 mph), and increasing fuel consumption slightly, armoring, and gun ammunition. On the other hand, this change is expected to make it easier for the helicopter crew to perform battlefield observation and coordination roles. This post has been edited by noavatar: May 10 2013, 08:22 PM |
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May 10 2013, 07:46 PM
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instead of KA-50 get KA-52 instead
also Rooivalk will be the last in my list. This post has been edited by yinchet: May 10 2013, 07:47 PM |
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May 10 2013, 07:55 PM
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ka-50/52 ugliest attack heli everrr.
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May 10 2013, 08:01 PM
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You don't need a beautiful face to kill
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May 10 2013, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE(yinchet @ May 10 2013, 07:46 PM) instead of KA-50 get KA-52 instead ATM nk beli attack heli ke ? also Rooivalk will be the last in my list. |
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May 10 2013, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE(yinchet @ May 10 2013, 07:46 PM) instead of KA-50 get KA-52 instead tak payah la rooivalk,also Rooivalk will be the last in my list. my dad and his team reject lama dah! |
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May 10 2013, 08:08 PM
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QUOTE(yinchet @ May 10 2013, 07:46 PM) instead of KA-50 get KA-52 instead IINM There was talk of us wanting to buy Rooivalk in 90's. Then Financial crisis so shelved. Denel also lost the British and Turkish deal. Now they are having hard time in development. They need foreign buys badly.also Rooivalk will be the last in my list. |
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