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post Aug 17 2013, 08:34 PM

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South Korea's fighter jet project becomes two-way race
By Kim Eun-jung | 16 August 2013 Saturday | 16 16:47

SEOUL, Aug. 16 (Yonhap) -- In a last-ditch effort to win South Korea's fighter jet project, two of the three bidders -- Boeing and EADS -- offered proposals below the state budget of 8.3 trillion won (US$7.2 billion) during the final bidding on Friday, government officials and industry sources said.

The third company, Lockheed Martin, selling its F-35 stealth jets through the foreign military sales (FMS) program, offered a price higher than Seoul's budget, according to sources, effectively being eliminated from the race to win the country's largest arms procurement deal.

As the bidding process ended, the Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA) will conduct a comprehensive assessment of the jets and officially announce the winner next month.

"As there were companies that offered price within the program budget, we will proceed to the next step," DAPA spokesman Baek Yoon-hyung said in a press briefing, without elaborating the names citing the ongoing procedure.

"Although all jets will be evaluated, aircraft exceeding the budget will not be qualified for the contract," Baek said.

This week's final rounds of biddings were held following a six-week suspension due to all previous sessions ending in a failure when all three aerospace giants offered prices above the 8.3 trillion won budget approved by parliament.

The bidding war illustrated the heightened competition among the world's biggest defense groups as they seek to overcome drastic cutbacks in military spending in the U.S. and Europe.

The cheaper proposals by the two companies came after the DAPA announced that another failure in the bidding may lead to restarting the project from the beginning.

It had said that all options will be considered, such as reducing the number of jets to be bought, buying the jets in installments and increasing the state budget, which could be more beneficial to F-35s, whose biggest hindrance is their high cost.

Initially, Lockheed Martin's F-35s, which are in development for the U.S. military, were seen as a favorite given South Korean Air Force's long pursuit of stealth fighter jets that can pass through North Korea's complex web of radars and given the close relations between the two allies.

However, there was less room for price negotiations as F-35s are sold through the foreign military sales (FMS) program by the U.S. government.

Unlike the other two that make direct commercial sales, Lockheed Martin has offered a bid whose combined prices for each year from 2017 to 2022 exceeded Seoul's budget, according to sources familiar with the matter.

The government-to-government FMS condition requires a foreign government to pay the amount specified by the U.S. government for the F-35s at the time of payment.

Seoul had initially picked a bidder last October with the goal of receiving the first delivery in December 2016, but it postponed the schedule to get the first batch in August 2017 in accordance with the change in the negotiation procedure.

Military officials have expressed concerns over the further delay in the project to replace the aging fleet of F-4 and F-5 jets, with some of them introduced to the country over 40 years ago.

The DAPA has faced criticism for the delay by conducting biddings for a mix of direct commercial sales and the government-to-government deal.

The agency said it will conduct a comprehensive evaluation with value-added analysis on price conditions, without elaborating details of the assessment criteria.

The price factor accounts for 30 percent of the total score, while the pure procurement cost, excluding life-cycle maintenance and operation costs, occupies a smaller proportion of the selection process. However, the DAPA held its ground that meeting the budget limit is one of the most important requirements for the deal.

The final decision will be made in a meeting of experts and government officials slated for in mid-September. No specific date has been confirmed.

In its bid, Boeing has stressed the interoperability of the F-15 SE with other models purchased in the first two stages of the fighter modernization programs. Seoul has purchased 60 Boeing F-15 fighter jets since 2002.

It doesn't offer the same radar signature reduction as an F-35 and is only optimized for air-to-air combat stealth. What it does offer is greatly improved radar stealth over the F-15K and internal weapons.

While EADS' twin-engine Eurofighter is not equipped with stealth, EADS says measures were taken to reduce the Typhoon's radar cross section, especially from the frontal aspect.

EADS offered an investment of $2 billion in Seoul's plan to build its own fighter aircraft and assemble 53 planes in South Korea to boost its aerospace industry.

If Eurofighter is selected, it will be the first European combat jet deployed by South Korean Air Force.

ejkim@yna.co.kr

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2...005600315F.html


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post Aug 17 2013, 11:02 PM

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Lockheed Martin to provide 'eyes of the Apache' to Korea under terms of $223 million contract

By  Leada Gore | lgore@al.com
on August 13, 2013 at 2:24 PM, updated August 13, 2013 at 2:33 PM

Lockheed Martin will equip the Republic of Korea's AH-64E Apache helicopters with an advanced electro-optical fire control system under the terms of a $223 million contract announced by the company this week.

Lockheed will equip the Apaches with Modernized Target Acquisition Designation Sight/Pilot Night Vision Sensor, known as M-TADS/PNVS, systems. South Korea becomes to 12th international customer to purchase the new M-TADS/PNVS-equipped Apache attack helicopters. The contract includes 36 fire-control systems and spares with production continuing through 2018.

"We are very proud and happy to further our relationship with the Republic of Korea by adding them to our growing list of U.S. allies flying and operating this exceptionally capable aircraft," said Lt. Col. Shawn Powell, U.S. Army Product Manager for the Apache International Sales Program, Apache Attack Helicopters Project Office at Redstone Arsenal. "Multiple systems come together on this platform to make the AH-64E Apache the most advanced and powerful attack helicopter in the world. They made a great choice."

Fielded in 2005, M-TADS/PNVS is known as the eyes of the Apache. It is designed to provide pilots with long-range, precision engagement and pilotage capabilities for flying during the day, night and adverse weather.

"M-TADS/PNVS will provide the Republic of Korea Army with unmatched capabilities and performance," said Mike Taylor, director of Apache international and support programs at Lockheed Martin Missiles and Fire Control. "Lockheed Martin looks forward to this partnership with the Republic of Korea Army to produce and field our modernized targeting and pilotage system for South Korea's formidable new AH-64E Apache attack helicopter fleet."


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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Aug 17 2013, 07:35 PM)
judging from the theme of this year's Merdeka, which is "Tanah Tumpahnya Darahku", i could say those tanks would certainly be in the parade..especially AV8 and Pendekar..if not then most likely they would at least show the Adnans that they use in LD..and i'm guessing there would be a lot of appearances from VAT69 in the parade to remember their fallen comrades in LD..  smile.gif
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I think Vietnam already had S-300, how about Malaysia? smile.gif
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QUOTE(bereev @ Aug 17 2013, 09:09 AM)
i always having queries on the turret or main gun will hit the driver when he put his head up from the cockpit is any mechanism to ensure the driver safety to prevent turret turn.  hmm.gif
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Singapore uses Leopard 2A4, it is better than these. Their simulators are also really great, the best tanks are from Germany. smile.gif
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QUOTE(bubu2010 @ Aug 18 2013, 07:58 PM)
I think Vietnam already had S-300, how about Malaysia? smile.gif
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QUOTE(bubu2010 @ Aug 18 2013, 08:00 PM)
Singapore uses Leopard 2A4, it is better than these. Their simulators are also really great, the best tanks are from Germany. smile.gif
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The weight of the Leopards will make it impossible to cross the causeway or bridge as they will sink or collapse... only our pendekar can safely cross over and navigate SG's tight streets

IMHO the M1A2 Abramsa are still the best and battle proven tanks
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QUOTE(James Bum @ Aug 18 2013, 08:11 PM)
We might be getting Patriots
The weight of the Leopards will make it impossible to cross the causeway or bridge as they will sink or collapse... only our pendekar can safely cross over and navigate SG's tight streets

IMHO the M1A2 Abramsa are still the best and battle proven tanks
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M1A2 is a crap compared to T-90 or Leopard 2 or MBT2000 biggrin.gif
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post Aug 18 2013, 10:47 PM

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in term of multi-layered air defence,we rely on our MiG-29N and Su-30MKM as our long range air defence, Rapier as our SHORADS and Igla/anza/starburst (if this even in the inventory anymore) and some oerlinkon AAA as our VSHORADS

we do have gaps in medium level air defence. we've been flirting with Aster-30 and Buk-M1 system for years now. even at one point them chinese are offering us them air defence system

QUOTE(bubu2010 @ Aug 18 2013, 09:20 PM)
M1A2 is a crap compared to T-90 or Leopard 2 or MBT2000 biggrin.gif
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interesting.

do you have sources (Janes,etc) to support your claim?

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QUOTE(bubu2010 @ Aug 18 2013, 08:20 PM)
M1A2 is a crap compared to T-90 or Leopard 2 or MBT2000 biggrin.gif
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Crap? M1A2, tho not my favourite, is still one of the best battle-proven tank around..
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QUOTE(James Bum @ Aug 18 2013, 08:11 PM)
We might be getting Patriots
The weight of the Leopards will make it impossible to cross the causeway or bridge as they will sink or collapse... only our pendekar can safely cross over and navigate SG's tight streets

IMHO the M1A2 Abramsa are still the best and battle proven tanks
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lol
u really think they bought the leos without thinking "hey, can i cross the causeway on these?"
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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Aug 18 2013, 10:51 PM)
lol
u really think they bought the leos without thinking "hey, can i cross the causeway on these?"
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Well, the Singaporeans aint dumb, there sure have plans on how to transport their Leos, not just across the causeway je..but its sure a b**** for their engineers lar tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Aug 18 2013, 10:54 PM)
Well, the Singaporeans aint dumb, there sure have plans on how to transport their Leos, not just across the causeway je..but its sure a b**** for their engineers lar  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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they already have m3g amphi rigs that can transport leos.
so yeah, they got a way.
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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Aug 18 2013, 10:55 PM)
they already have m3g amphi rigs that can transport leos.
so yeah, they got a way.
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same over here, we also have a way to counter that laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Aug 18 2013, 10:59 PM)
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in order to achieve this, the area must be totally secure..looks nice in training exercises, but defending long pontoon bridges like this from land, sea and air assault during actual battle will be a b****..
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Aug 18 2013, 11:01 PM)
in order to achieve this, the area must be totally secure..looks nice in training exercises, but defending long pontoon bridges like this from land, sea and air assault during actual battle will be a b****..
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that is one sweet target practice
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Aug 18 2013, 11:01 PM)
in order to achieve this, the area must be totally secure..looks nice in training exercises, but defending long pontoon bridges like this from land, sea and air assault during actual battle will be a b****..
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some more these chinese tanks are light weight... probably around 40T since they look like relics from the cold war era... a 65T tank would need even bigger and more vulnerable pontoons... I'm sure we have our artillery and MLRS targeted around the causeway
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wow
what make us think that those singapore leos are for an attack on malaysian soil?
& what makes us think that those pendekar are for an attack on singapore soil?

btw, there's no real proven best tank in the world until u send them into real battle & improvise the tank time by time..& for me, the real best & battle proven tank in the world is actually, challenger II..this low profile tanks never failed during operation iraqi freedom

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