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azriel
post Aug 16 2013, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Aug 16 2013, 03:46 PM)
Serious? at that price, fuuuu
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Don't know at what price was agreed in the deal after negotiation.

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post Aug 16 2013, 04:09 PM

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Awesome Dutch F-16 pic.

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meedoot
post Aug 16 2013, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Aug 16 2013, 02:46 PM)
Serious? at that price, fuuuu
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the parliament approving budget 3,1 trillion rupiah = aprox USD 310 million for 8 hellos.. appear on other indo newspaper

edit for news in bahasa indonesia :

Indonesia-Amerika Susun Kontrak Jual-Beli Apache

TEMPO.CO, Jakarta - Kementerian Pertahanan membenarkan kepastian pembelian delapan unit helikopter serang canggih AH-64-D Apache Longbow dari Amerika Serikat. Saat ini Indonesia dan Amerika Serikat sedang menyusun kontrak jual-beli helikopter ini.

"Sedang dalam pembicaraan intensif oleh kedua negara," kata Kepala Badan Sarana Pertahanan, Laksamana Muda Rachmad Lubis, saat dihubungi Tempo, Jumat, 16 Agustus 2013.

Materi pembicaraan kontrak, dia melanjutkan, antara lain harga kedelapan helikopter dan skema pembayaran. Termasuk soal pembayaran uang muka sebagai tanda jadi jual-beli.

Soal berapa biaya yang dikeluarkan pemerintah untuk membeli delapan unit Apache, Rachmad memilih bungkam. Begitu pula soal uang muka yang sudah disiapkan pemerintah. "Prinsip uang muka dibayarkan setelah kontrak berlaku efektif," kata dia.

Kemarin, Kepala Staf Angkatan Darat Jenderal Moeldoko mememastikan pembelian delapan unit helikopter Apache Longbow dari Amerika Serikat. Sesuai rencana, kedelapan helikopter akan diterima Indonesia secara bertahap mulai tahun 2018 hingga 2021.

Komisi Pertahanan DPR akhirnya merestui pembelian helikopter ini. Padahal sebelumnya, DPR bersikukuh menolak pembelian dengan alasan harga Apache yang terlalu mahal.

Wakil Komisi Pertahanan Tubagus Hasanuddin, salah satu anggota dewan yang sebelumnya menolak Apache, mengatakan parlemen akan membicarakan pengajuan anggaran ini pada rapat Rancangan Anggaran Pendapatan dan Belanja Negara tahun 2014. "Harganya sekitar Rp 3,1 triliun, nanti kami alokasikan," kata dia.
INDRA WIJAYA

http://www.tempo.co/read/news/2013/08/16/0...ual-Beli-Apache

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post Aug 16 2013, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(meedoot @ Aug 16 2013, 05:19 PM)
the parliament approving budget 3,1 trillion rupiah = aprox USD 310 million for 8 hellos.. appear on other indo newspaper
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Nice, cheaper than S.Korean bought
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post Aug 16 2013, 06:25 PM

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longbow and not the new apache guardian?
azriel
post Aug 16 2013, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Aug 16 2013, 06:25 PM)
longbow and not the new apache guardian?
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The US is offering Indonesia the AH-64D Block III Apache Longbow. The Block III Apache Longbow was re-designated as the AH-64E Guardian. Basicly it is the same Apache helicopter.

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U.S. Army AH-64E Is Now the ‘Guardian’

Less than three months after U.S. Army representatives announced that the former “Apache Block III” attack helicopter would be re-designated as the AH-64 “Echo,” the service has officially tied a nickname to the alpha-numeric designation.

http://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stories...s-now-guardian/


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post Aug 16 2013, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Aug 16 2013, 05:50 PM)
Nice, cheaper than S.Korean bought
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just about 3 million different, wait to see detail packages of contract.

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xtemujin
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In five years, there might be a change of government and this deal scrapped.

QUOTE(azriel @ Aug 16 2013, 12:34 PM)

Indonesia to Purchase 8 Apache Longbow Choppers
By INDRA WIJAYA | 16 August 2013 Friday | 10:22 WIB

TEMPO.CO, Jakarta - Army Chief of Staff General Moeldoko confirmed that the Defense Ministry had agreed on the purchase of eight units of United States Apache Longbow Choppers.

The request was previously rejected by the House of Representatives, saying the price was beyond expensive. "Both the House and the Defense Ministry have agreed on the purchase," the Army Chief of Staff said.

Moeldoko did not specifically mention the price of the eight notorious choppers, saying he had not noticed the technical matter. He said that the government will begin paying the U.S. by this year. The eight choppers will be sent to Indonesia starting 2018 to 2021.

The House Defense Commission, in regards to this purchase, said they eventually agreed to strengthen the Army despite the relatively expensive cost.

http://en.tempo.co/read/news/2013/08/16/05...ongbow-Choppers
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Malaysia when? I remember long long time ago duri g Lima 1991 we already express interest.. i think it was the rooivalk and werewolf back then.

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Aug 17 2013, 12:58 AM)
Malaysia when? I remember long long time ago duri g Lima 1991 we already express interest.. i think it was the rooivalk and werewolf back then.
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Aug 17 2013, 12:58 AM)
Malaysia when? I remember long long time ago duri g Lima 1991 we already express interest.. i think it was the rooivalk and werewolf back then.
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it was rooivalk,
but just an interest, the project did not go on as the evaluating team did not approve the bird
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QUOTE(xtemujin @ Aug 17 2013, 12:54 AM)
In five years, there might be a change of government and this deal scrapped.
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If already sign contract, if not wrong, need pay some % of contract price to product manufacture, if cancel u need lost that money. (unless like some case example delay due to manufacture problem), or find other buyer to take your order.
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Dsca confirm the deal?
azriel
post Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Aug 17 2013, 01:24 AM)
Dsca confirm the deal?
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The deal have not been signed yet. Preparation for the contract & a down payment is being allocated & finalized. Expected in the coming weeks the deal will be signed.

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Jum'at, 16 Agustus 2013 | 17:53 WIB

Indonesia-Amerika Susun Kontrak Jual-Beli Apache

TEMPO.CO, Jakarta - Kementerian Pertahanan membenarkan kepastian pembelian delapan unit helikopter serang canggih AH-64-D Apache Longbow dari Amerika Serikat. Saat ini Indonesia dan Amerika Serikat sedang menyusun kontrak jual-beli helikopter ini.

"Sedang dalam pembicaraan intensif oleh kedua negara," kata Kepala Badan Sarana Pertahanan, Laksamana Muda Rachmad Lubis, saat dihubungi Tempo, Jumat, 16 Agustus 2013.

Materi pembicaraan kontrak, dia melanjutkan, antara lain harga kedelapan helikopter dan skema pembayaran. Termasuk soal pembayaran uang muka sebagai tanda jadi jual-beli.

Soal berapa biaya yang dikeluarkan pemerintah untuk membeli delapan unit Apache, Rachmad memilih bungkam. Begitu pula soal uang muka yang sudah disiapkan pemerintah. "Prinsip uang muka dibayarkan setelah kontrak berlaku efektif," kata dia.

Kemarin, Kepala Staf Angkatan Darat Jenderal Moeldoko mememastikan pembelian delapan unit helikopter Apache Longbow dari Amerika Serikat. Sesuai rencana, kedelapan helikopter akan diterima Indonesia secara bertahap mulai tahun 2018 hingga 2021.

Komisi Pertahanan DPR akhirnya merestui pembelian helikopter ini. Padahal sebelumnya, DPR bersikukuh menolak pembelian dengan alasan harga Apache yang terlalu mahal.

Wakil Komisi Pertahanan Tubagus Hasanuddin, salah satu anggota dewan yang sebelumnya menolak Apache, mengatakan parlemen akan membicarakan pengajuan anggaran ini pada rapat Rancangan Anggaran Pendapatan dan Belanja Negara tahun 2014. "Harganya sekitar Rp 3,1 triliun, nanti kami alokasikan," kata dia.

INDRA WIJAYA


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post Aug 17 2013, 08:39 AM

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The Apaches can easily eat our pendekar tanks for breakfast
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QUOTE(bereev @ Aug 17 2013, 09:09 AM)
i always having queries on the turret or main gun will hit the driver when he put his head up from the cockpit is any mechanism to ensure the driver safety to prevent turret turn.  hmm.gif
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post Aug 17 2013, 10:09 AM

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Friday, 16 August, 2013 | 18:32 WIB

Playing Defense in the State Budget

TEMPO.CO, Jakarta - The government has allocated Rp 83,4 trillion (around US$8,05 billion) in the 2014 State Budget for the Defense Ministry. The number is the largest allocation compared to budgets allocated for other ministries.

In addition to the Defense Ministry, there are five other ministries that receive more than Rp 30 trillion (around US$2,89 billion) budget allocation, including the Education and Culture Ministry, Public Work Ministry, Religious Affair Ministry, Health Ministry, and Transportation Ministry. Moreover, the Indonesia Police Force also received an astonishing budget allocation of Rp 39,2 trillion (around US$3,78 billion).

President SBY mentioned in a statement that the government is attempting to allocate 20 percent of the total state budget for the education sector, in accordance with the Constitution.

ANGGA SUKMA WIJAYA


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post Aug 17 2013, 05:13 PM

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Anyone have any ideas what military assets will be showcased for the 2013 Hari Kemerdekaan Malaysia, I'm still not sure whether I'll go down to KL.

I'll most probably go down if the PT91M Pendekar, Astros and AV8 will be in the parade.

Thanks

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post Aug 17 2013, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(xtemujin @ Aug 17 2013, 05:13 PM)
Anyone have any ideas what military assets will be showcased for the 2013 Hari Kemerdekaan Malaysia, I'm still not sure whether I'll go down to KL.

I'll most probably go down if the PT91M Pendekar, Astros and AV8 will be in the parade.

Thanks
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judging from the theme of this year's Merdeka, which is "Tanah Tumpahnya Darahku", i could say those tanks would certainly be in the parade..especially AV8 and Pendekar..if not then most likely they would at least show the Adnans that they use in LD..and i'm guessing there would be a lot of appearances from VAT69 in the parade to remember their fallen comrades in LD.. smile.gif
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Hopefully some confirmation of MAF assets on parade from BERNAMA.

I've been coming down for 2 years for the merdeka parade, so far no Pendekar.

Only saw it during the Malaysian army parade at Port Dickson this year.

Thanks for the heads up.

QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Aug 17 2013, 07:35 PM)
judging from the theme of this year's Merdeka, which is "Tanah Tumpahnya Darahku", i could say those tanks would certainly be in the parade..especially AV8 and Pendekar..if not then most likely they would at least show the Adnans that they use in LD..and i'm guessing there would be a lot of appearances from VAT69 in the parade to remember their fallen comrades in LD..  smile.gif
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