● Pattern number: AD08R
● Steel belt radial
● Tubeless
● Passenger car tires

Technology of ADVAN NEOVA AD08R

Neova successfully achieving further evolution
ADVAN's best sports street tires, now with an improved new compound.
Adopted technology used in motorsports tire of the highest peak, such as WTCC to provide an improved grip compound.
Neova opens up the path to enjoyable speed.


Concept when designing this tire:
- early (cold?) grip improvements
- lap times improvements
- control (handling) improvements

Newly developed "MS (micro silica) compound 2R" that improves grip

For the sake of increasing dry grip, carbon is increased to the traditional MS2 compound; The inclusion of silica also ensured/maintained wet grip.
Combination of adopted technology used in motorsports (WTCC) and "orange oil", road surface adaptability has been improved and thus further gripping strength has been obtained.
Additionally, the inclusion of a High molecular mass polymer blend, it also ensures compound rigidity and improves wear resistance.



source:
http://www.yokohamatire.jp/yrc/japan/tire/...dvan_ad08r.html

Translation disclaimer:
TS is a beginner in Japanese language and relied heavily on google translate, any mistakes do point it out and i will correct them as needed
credit to awyongcarl on helping with translation as well

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Apr 5 2013, 09:21 PM

size list:
http://www.yokohamatire.jp/yrc/japan/tire/...r_sizelist.html

19"

Tire Size (and speed rating)	Outer diameter of the tire (mm)	Total tire width (mm)	Standard rim width (inch)	Rim width Application (inch)
255/30R19 91W	640	256	9J	8 ½ -9 ½
265/30R19 89W	643	268	9 ½ J	9-10
275/30R19 92W	650	273	9 ½ J	9-10
295/30R19 100W	662	298	10 ½ J	10-11
305/30R19 102W	609	308	11J	10 ½ -11 ½
225/35R19 88W	642	228	8J	7 ½ -9
235/35R19 87W	647	240	Eight ½ J	8-9 ½
245/35R19 89W	655	244	Eight ½ J	8-9 ½
255/35R19 92W	662	256	9J	8 ½ -10
265/35R19 94W	668	269	9 ½ J	9-10 ½
275/35R19 96W	675	278	9 ½ J	9-11
245/40R19 94W	678	248	Eight ½ J	8-9 ½

18"

Tire Size (and speed rating)	Outer diameter of the tire (mm)	Total tire width (mm)	Standard rim width (inch)	Rim width Application (inch)
285/30R18 93W	629	286	10J	9 ½ -10 ½
295/30R18 94W	635	298	10 ½ J	10-11
255/35R18 90W	635	257	9J	8 ½ -10
265/35R18 93W	643	269	9 ½ J	9-10 ½
225/40R18 88W	636	230	8J	7 ½ -9
235/40R18 91W	644	242	Eight ½ J	8-9 ½
245/40R18 93W	651	248	Eight ½ J	8-9 ½
255/40R18 95W	659	262	9J	8 ½ -10
265/40R18 101W	668	272	91/2J	9-101/2
215/45R18 89W	648	215	7J	7-8
225/45R18 91W	656	227	7 ½ J	7-8 ½
245/45R18 96W	674	245	8J	7 ½ -9

17"

Tire Size (and speed rating)	Outer diameter of the tire (mm)	Total tire width (mm)	Standard rim width (inch)	Rim width Application (inch)
215/40R17 83W	602	217	7 ½ J	7-8 ½
235/40R17 90W	618	242	Eight ½ J	8-9 ½
245/40R17 91W	626	248	Eight ½ J	8-9 ½
255/40R17 94W	633	262	9J	8 ½ -10
205/45R17 84W	613	208	7J	6 ½ -7 ½
215/45R17 87W	623	215	7J	7-8
225/45R17 91W	631	227	7 ½ J	7-8 ½
235/45R17 94W	641	240	8J	7 ½ -9
245/45R17 95W	648	245	8J	7 ½ -9
205/50R17 89W	635	214	6 ½ J	5 ½ -7 ½

16"

Tire Size (and speed rating)	Outer diameter of the tire (mm)	Total tire width (mm)	Standard rim width (inch)	Rim width Application (inch)
205/45R16 83W	587	208	7J	6 ½ -7 ½
215/45R16 86W	596	215	7J	7-8
225/45R16 89W	604	227	7 ½ J	7-8 ½
205/50R16 87V	609	214	6 ½ J	5 ½ -7 ½
225/50R16 92V	628	235	7J	6-8
205/55R16 91V	629	214	6 ½ J	5 ½ -7 ½

15"

Tire Size (and speed rating)	Outer diameter of the tire (mm)	Total tire width (mm)	Standard rim width (inch)	Rim width Application (inch)
195/50R15 82V	574	200	6J	5 ½ -7
205/50R15 86V	584	214	6 ½ J	5 ½ -7 ½
185/55R15 82V	582	195	6J	5-6 ½
195/55R15 85V	592	200	6J	5 ½ -7

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Apr 5 2013, 08:25 PM

Related videos (or lol ads):










just found this, around a g of cornering force and the tires didn't really screech that much.
gets louder as he exceeds 1/1.2 or so haha




tirerack tests between 4 tires: BFGoodrich g-Force Rival, Bridgestone Potenza RE-11A, Dunlop Direzza ZII, Yokohama ADVAN Neova AD08 R
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/chartD...ay.jsp?ttid=172

Reviews/articles:
http://www.speedhunters.com/2013/04/its-al...8r-time-attack/



does this mean that the ad08 (or ad08r) performs good in wet conditions too?

Review by TS (Quazacolt):
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=62289305

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=62345324

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Sep 22 2013, 01:51 PM

thread strictly for discussion only, any dealing please go through pm/automotive garage.

with that said, anyone interested in these tires? if i can get enough interest i'll open up a bulk thread on automotive garage (or bulk section) to start the ball rolling.

and just curious, has anyone ever used these tires? or at least the older AD08?
it's been hard to get feedback for these tires as everyone i asked only gave me "overpriced" response

thread pattern seems to be similar with the AD08... so i would assume the wet weather performance would be very close to each other (though i have no idea how the AD08 performs in the wet )

guess the main point to see now is the compound difference and maybe sidewall stiffness and how these affect performance

tread pattern minor improvement (or just lol marketing gimmicks, i really cant tell):
AD08


AD08R


AFAIK wet performance has never been Yokohama's forte and this is no exception, however from tirerack:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/chartD...ay.jsp?ttid=118
the ad08 was rated pretty well on wet performance which is rather surprising.

compound wise, they integrated orange oil in these, and as far as i know, their orange oil compound was only previously utilized in their comfort based tires such as the c drive 2 and advan db.

does it actually improve or worsen the tires' performance by using this compound?

except for the ES100... those were awesome in the dry AND wet... quite sad they discontinued those...almost as sad that the Azenis ST115 was discontinued

hmm were those replaced by the s drive? sadly from my friends' feedback, s drive wet performance leaves more to be desired

if not mistaken it was replaced by the AD07.... if not mistaken...

not too sure... but i remember at first the ES100 was the big hoohaa... once killed the next big hoohaa was the AD07

Unfortunately it doesn't have the size for my front (215/50/17 or 225/50/17).

if you can sacrifice 5 profile, they got your sizes

read up on reviews of the ES100, very positive feedback. wonder why they replace something that's good

tell me about it.... i was on Potenza RE711 at the time... and was itchy to try the ES100....but my tires had alot of thread...so had to wait... but then....they killed it

same goes for ST115... best tire ive ever used for the wet... but killed...

old thing no go... new thing no come

No, don't want to cause the tires becomes too thin/harsh. Also will drop the ride height even more.

http://www.speedhunters.com/2013/04/its-al...8r-time-attack/





This post has been edited by nzh0920: Apr 5 2013, 04:13 PM

thanks for the info bro, added that site on my initial posts

does this mean that the ad08 (or ad08r) performs good in wet conditions too?

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Apr 5 2013, 07:53 PM

looks like tread patterns are confirmed to be the same as the previous AD08.

i guess there are some things Yokohama that actually keeps if it's deemed really good

are these available in Malaysia already ?

yeah, interested in perhaps joining bulk to get better price? (they are really really expensive tires rofl)

+1!
Azenis ST-115 was one of my favourite. Along with AD07, S.Drive and PP2 which is obsolete too.
At least AD08 still around.

eh ad07/s drive is among your favorite? can comment more on those tires?

Both are in different level I think. I usually comment based on comparison with other tyres which I happen to use before or after. Me lousy driver ma .
I'll pick the slightly inferior in wet S.drive over the PS3 or RE001 on daily ride as it offer better overall driving
pleasure as S.drive actually gives more confident at anything more intense than intermediate road condition where
the PS3 and RE001 excel. Dry grip and traction are almost equal.
AD07's sidewall is not as stiff as RE11 or even RE001 but it made up for the accuracy of steering feel. Don't ask me where it comes from as I only care about the feel...lol.
Along with the AD08, AD07 is one of the most communicative tyres I'd ever use. Speeding at high speed corners less than 1 feet from the wall or divider is a breeze which I could not do with even Asymmetric .

i've heard s drive being inferior/bad in wet, but, how bad is it anyways?

and the neova series has been known for its steering precision, is it really as many claim? perhaps you can describe it better?

btw are you perhaps interested in bulking these as well? since you've used the ad07/08 (these are cheaper than the 08 btw)

Ad07 was my favorite tyre when i was still study and drive my satria vr4. It is the only street tyre that can make my car stick to the road on drag race (im not interested with semi slick) and can launch my car at 4k rpm without too much tyre spin. Awesome feeling. That time i've bought them rm460++ per piece for 16inch. There goes my study loan lol.

The only downside of ad07 is the aquaplaning sux big time.

I hope thuis ad08r can excel on both dry and wet. Currently using toyo t1r for my mpv, definitely will try this ad08r after current tyre wear out.

This post has been edited by calmshot: Apr 7 2013, 03:38 PM

wats the price for 215/45/r18 ?
im usin proxes c1s now

S.drive had the traction but braking distance in wet is still further than the likes of RE001, ST-115 or PS3.
Never had the chance to whack it during heavy downpour so cannot comment on aquaplaning but high speed driving through a pud of water doesn't effect the car's handling.
About the steering precision of AD07/AD08, yes, first class! Slight input on the steering was send to the tyres instantly and accurate. Maybe this is due to the shoulder block construction where the tyres actually feel as if the tread is build around a cylinder...lol.

How much does the 205/50/16 and 205/50/15 cost?

thanks for the feedback bro.

there's some reviews/benchmarking at tirerack that proves/claims that the ad08 does good in wet, and with ad08r being a newly improved compound, theoretically it should be better

non bulk price 17" already 57x, so 18"
still interested?

damn you're poisoning me bro

16" not sure, for 17" refer my previous post, 15" is around 38x
again, non bulk price, and 16" can just use the price in between 15/17...

still gathering interests, if we can get at least 5 sets or something, i think the price should be much better

Lol...fact can be a poison. Me now unker driver already. Only pek san or touge once in a blue moon
but a good tyres is always a must on any run.

learned it the hard way myself

eh so you wanna keep a spare set for that "once in a blue moon" occasion? jom bulk

Still keep 2x of used AD08 in my storeroom. Another 2x will be good addition in case me decide to
go touge

I used to drive 70...max 80 in the wet in the AD07...above that must be crazy...unless the tires still new.

AD08..or the AD08R?...stuff of dreams to me ...no budget to get.
I think my tire size of 225/45/17 sure above RM800 per tires

wow very costly then ... about rm 800 per donut ?

not sure, if you interested i could perhaps get an initial price, then hopefully if the bulk do happen the price can go down further

Just curious about price range(Not that i have a car to use it)
265/35/18,255/35/18,255/40/17 price range
How deep into 1K per donut?

largest size ive asked is 215/45/17 which is around 58x

i don't think it'll dig in into 1k per donut, maybe close.

My PS3 left 20%... I dont mind joining the bulk but..... whats the MOQ? Running on 215/45/17

not sure on the MOQ yet, since i havent even officially started the bulk. id reckon it'd be at least 5 sets of tires for it to be even considered a bulk... pricing obviously the more people in the bulk the cheaper.

atm i believe i got about 2-3 interested people (including myself.
tentatively official bulk to begin within next month or latest also june.

I'm interested on 2 pcs 185/55/R15 and 2pcs 205/50/R16. Where you order the tyre? I checked with YHI Malaysia they only have stock on June. If your order can arrive earlier will be great.

i believe kent (LYN nestum) may have ready stocks, can pm him

not joining our bulk instead? (have to wait though) lol

I can't find LYN nestum, any link?
When your bulk is starting and when can get the tyre? Any link?

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showuser=112111

haven't officially create a bulk thread yet... if can get a few more confirmed interests then ill go ahead on it lol

all AD08r stock will arrive at june

u need to place ur order now cos some size like 185/55/15 they might not bring in

how much will it cost?

bro if you interested, may proceed towards this thread:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2781201

hi im using s-drive... u guys think these tyre is better than s drive?

Definitely much better. Performance is very near to some semi slick already. So do the wear rate I guess.

damn must try...even for s-drive i think grip is good!

these are Yokohama's flagship tires (Advan series, their top of the line tires)
so they are definitely better than s drive.

as keyser above poster, in addition to being much more expensive, the tires will also wear out faster as they are using soft racing compound very similar to semi slick tires. these are however not semi slicks and are very much street legal while Yokohama A048 or A050 are the full racing semi-slicks tires (and the A00x series would be their full slicks).

how much a piece bro? btw i thought s-drive is also using soft compound ?

prices can vary a lot between sizes because it is a high end flagship tire.

can refer to previous pages for pricing between 15" and 17" (38x to 5xx+)

mine is 16 hehe

damn, just changed to AD08 last month.... Overall i can whack sharp corners with higher speed than usual. I wanna know how much it cost for AD08R for 225/40R18?

dont have the actual pricing for 18" yet, however ad08r overall cost much cheaper than ad08

How much per piece for this AD08r? I'm using AD07 and think to change new tire soon. My tire size is 215/45/17 (Honda Civic).

Thanks!

This post has been edited by carlosnest: Apr 23 2013, 03:24 PM

as per http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=59663054

RM58x normal price, i've already created a bulk thread for this tire and we should be able to get a much lower price

Seems like the AD08R price just slighly more than UHP tires...which is good news...

But i wonder, which part they cut cost? Is it still Made in Japan?

it isnt just slightly more than uhp lol, its a LOT more and priced very closely to semi slicks.

im guessing the compound is much cheaper (orange oil), and yes it is still made in japan. All advan tires are made in Japan AFAIK since it IS their flagship tires after all

Bulk order, roughly when it will be available?

ETA expecting around late june or late july

tempting tempting. expecting late June means x sempat for my early June track day

due to the nature of bulk and to provide ourselves some buffer on the timing/deadline, ETA will be on late july/early august, info along with full price list (and bulk pricing) updated: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2781201

This tire superior on dry.... But how u guys feel when driving on heavy rain?

-double post-

This post has been edited by torreto: Apr 29 2013, 11:40 AM

these are not semi slicks, wet performance has been reviewed/bench marked to be rather good

to be honest, This tires actually do well on heavy rain. driven an Evo 8 with AD08 on heavy rain at the speed of 100-140 km/h and i'm surprised with the grip. Even my current Toyo R1R do very well on rain and wet surface even better than my previous set of Dunlop SP Sport Maxx.

still not poisoned enough to grab a set? (spare tire to simpan also boleh, since the pricing is very reasonable thanks to the bulk )

haha poisoned enough, need to sort out my budget 1st. but i'm sure you'll hear from me

haha poisoned enough, need to sort out my budget 1st. but i'm sure you'll hear from me

hehe you got the whole month of may to sort out
bulk closing on first week of june

anyone else used ad07/08 curious on the new ad08r compound? now with attractive cheaper (compared with ad08), and bulk price to top it off

Newbie here, im wondering how long it can last? =)

tread wear rating iinm is between 140-160
racing compound tires, they aren't meant to last very long

interested?

any sifu used this tire before? i got 1 newbie question, if street use how many KM it can last. Rough figure also can Thank you =)

from feedbacks around the internet, it can be between 10k to 30k km

some even less if they frequently attend tracks or even touge session

Thank you so much Quazacolt =)

Not sure if I am right, I do experience the AD07 before, amazing as it is... But it is no where near RE070.

check this out:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?ti...DVAN+Neova+AD08

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?ti...l=Potenza+RE070

and click on survey/review from each pages

not much on the 07's though http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?ti...DVAN+Neova+AD07

some intropoison pictures:
And finally, some extreme performance overkill as f*** tires on my slow stock ride XD http://www.twitpic.com/d6jsgl

Products used for this shot: Meguiar endurance tire gel, Meguiar ultimate quick detailer http://www.twitpic.com/d6kxm1

Early words/intro on the review:
I'm a car enthusiast that just gotten interested in cars in the past 4-5 ish years, and only started taking car tires seriously around 1-2 years ago, in which early 2012 i just gotten my first set of sport rims, and with it Yokohama C drive 2 that i will be replacing them as soon as i gotten the cash as they've worn down to maybe between 30-40% ish htreads and they are getting a bit dangerous for my regular aggressive driving especially in the wet, and hey they even started to wheel spin when i launch my cars time to time just for the heck of it. Anyways this is about the advan Neova ad08r, so we can talk about the c drive 2 either in person or next time.

With my rims/c drive 2 that i've gotten from nestum , from there begins my exploration of tires/suspension/braking and me/Kent (nestum) have gone through a lot of information exchanges in which i am grateful for. Also big shout out to him for all the info he's provided, great service/pricing, and most importantly, making the ad08r bulk possible and for myself to be equipping them at very reasonable prices

What makes me choose this set of tire despite the insane premium price (especially the previous/older AD08) and even more (as surprising as it may sound) negative feedback from the local motor sport enthusiasts (mainly price vs performance, how much the ad08 cost that other much cheaper UHP/EHP/semi slicks can perform on par, if not better), is that overseas responses/feedback are VERY positive and it is after all Yokohama's Advan lineup, in which even in our local ahbeng/rempitmotorsport scene has people having decals/vinyl/windscreen stickers sticking Advan all over their vehicle despite not running on Advan tires anyways.

So, this tire, must mean something despite the negativity behind it, right?
then of course there's this that pushes me to that buying edge even more:

noise? who gives a shit about NVH when it comes to motor sports eh?
and laser sharp steering response, race tire-like handling... now that's a tire i absolutely MUST experience!

source: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?ti...reMake=Yokohama
new test video and results out for the R http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=172


last thing to note before we finally begin the quick review is that as the tires haven't even reach American market, it is not officially UTQG rated and as such we'll be using AD08 previous rating with source from http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?ti...AN+Neova+AD08+R as well which is 180 tread wear, AA traction A temperature.
To my knowledge ALL of Advan tires are Made in Japan

Also as the only "serious" tires i've own would be the Yokohama C Drive 2, and Achilles 123 Semi-slick tires, a LOT of comparison will be made against these 2 tires.

Dry Grip:
For normal cornering between 120-140km/h, grip is very firm, and so far i am unable to produce tire screams even at those speeds. While the compound is damn soft to the point you can dig your finger nails in, the overall build is very stiff, even more so than the 123's i've owned. Shoulder block/sidewalls also seemed much firmer/thicker than the 123, despite having the same 195/50 tire at 6.5"j 15" rims, the ad08r looks considerable much wider than the c drive 2 (and of course slightly wider than the 123) that makes the entire tires jutting out of the wheel house and yes, REALLY HARD cornering will cause fender rubbing while the c drive 2 on 195/55 i've never experienced it; Harder to compare with the 123 as i was on different suspension setup and that setup bottoms out way to easily

So far i've barely even pushed the tires anywhere near to their limits, this is after all fitted on cars WAAAAY more powerful than my stock car. If anything, the high speed twists on mahameru - duta road would do a decent test for this, especially if you're on the furthest right lane where there will be badly paved manholes/covers where your tires will leave the ground for a very short while and it'll have to have damn good grip to regain traction else you'll face a brief slide (or if you're too fast, you're gonna crash the divider ) and yes i've slided plentiful with the c drive 2. for the 123, no such case however it didn't inspire me the confidence that the ad08r did for some reason. i'm going to take a good guess that it could be the harder 123 compound against the way softer ad08r, the temporary shift was barely noticed in the ad08r which made the cornering rather effortless and barely any correction was required after passing the cover.

Dry traction:
As mentioned above on some of the high speed cornering, traction is plentiful even when grip is temporarily lost due to bad road conditions. a better testament to this is the increased acceleration i am experiencing - at 3rd gear, my speed seems to climb faster than my rpm at 3rd (and last gear of my 3 speed auto) until around 80km/h x ~3.5k rpm where the rpm starts to catch up a bit.
Never happened before on my c drive 2 or even the achilles123 (hard to compare cuz back then i was on steel rims)

That said, the rolling resistance (that the likes of Michelin XM2/Yokohama C drive 2 like to market/boast about) is definitely in the shitter (maybe due to much better traction/grip?) as my speedo drops faster upon release of the accelerator almost scarily about the speed of my rpm meter as opposed to previously it's able to cruise very easily at over 80km/h with my C drive 2.
Needless to say FC may very likely take a hit running on these performance tires.

Wet grip:
no comment as it haven't rained significantly since i installed the tires

Wet traction:
same as above, no comment so far.

Handling/Road feedback/Progressiveness:
Just. phenomenal. I've never experience something to be so responsive and it certainly lived up its expectations of "laser sharp steering response". Hell if i were to add my own exaggeration, i'd say it turned my car controls into something akin of a video game/arcade simulation, what you input is what you get - every minor steering input is reflected in my car and it just BEGS for more. I've never ever thought my year 1999 Proton Iswara with pretty standard/old hydraulic power steering can handle as it does now thanks to the new tires.

Road feedback is quite good, as you can almost literally feel the road condition at the tip of your fingers from your steering wheel. That said, comfort is going to take a huge nose dive because of this no thanks to our Malaysian road condition - you ARE going to feel every yellow line/pot hole etc right up your back/head very harshly.

Can't comment too much on progression as i barely pushed the tires at all; Best to just leave this for the track experience to tell

Tire/tread wear:
no comment as these are new tires. if anything, i have to say that some minor fender rubbing does leave a rather noticeable mark despite it being a brand new tire. thankfully no new added grooves unlike my c drive 2

Comfort/NVH (Noise vibration harshness):
Comfort wise, yes as mentioned earlier on the road feedback, this is going to be a very uncomfortable tire especially coming from comfort tire usage (eg: c drive 2). If you're however used to standard UHP/semi slicks, then i suppose this would not be an issue to you, more so if you're reading up on the NVH review below.

To be honest, why would one even bother with NVH on these kinda tire is one would normally think. I have however came across this comment from bro xpress_lw https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=61958030
i'm like, "what the better than cc5?" lol
sure enough i was skeptical, until i got these rubbers fitted and drove around, damn they are a LOT quieter than i expected.

Granted they are new, and if you're going over 80-100km/h, it is still a LOT noisier than my c drive 2.
One thing to note though, as these tires are rather sticky, they DO pickup road debris much easier and as such if you're going over rocky/sandy roads, you're going to be hearing a lot of harsh stone/rock like sounds going through your vehicle cabin




Phew! Didn't think i'd be writing this long. This basically concludes the review for now.
Thanks for taking the time to read guys, will further do a follow up review after speedfest track day on the 18th August

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Aug 8 2013, 08:29 PM

Tested on 160kmj...super duper grip yo!

continuation on previous review: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=62289305

8th August 2013:

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touge trip genting sempah > gohtong jaya > Genting > karak downhill

Weather was raining in the morning between 9am-10am ish. good chance to do some test/update on the review. That said, we weren't driving at really fast speeds, it's supposed to be a leisure drive after all.


speeds were not exceeding 80-100km/h during wet conditions so i wonder if it's much of a real test or not, so take it with a pinch of salt ya

Wet grip:
This has to come off as a surprise especially after the latest tirerack review video. Considering the tread pattern, these tires do NOT look like something that would excel on wet conditions. I mean, simple concept of water channeling has to be there to be resistant of aquaplaning. However comparatively with the Achilles123 that seems to have more tread pattern/water channeling grooves, the 123 did VERY POORLY in wet conditions compared to the AD08R. During the run, there were some water puddle that are estimate as deep as 1/4 wheel, considering the splash wave did came up as high as the car window; There was just no signs of losing grip or whatsoever and road feedback on when i hit the water puddle/leaving the water puddle was just as excellent.

To people that are used to semi slick tires in wet conditions or even as daily ride - you guys would know very well during water puddles, your car will be temporarily out of control/slide/skid and the moment the tires leave the water puddle they would just regain whatever was lost almost immediately. These tires were similar to that, minus out the losing grip part. however again, so far so good although the speed wasn't all that fast and despite the efforts to go through as many water puddles as i can find.


Wet traction:
Pretty amazing as well as i am still able to accelerate/brake within the water puddles/wet surface almost effortlessly. Cornering was very stable, no drama/slide/skid whatsoever. Which is rather a surprising considering i had pretty good experience on the C drive 2, and that had WAY MORE water channeling grooves/tread pattern, even though it isn't exactly a performance based tire nor it is directional tread pattern which typically excels on wet conditions more so than asymmetric; And yeah, this definitely out performs the c drive 2 in wet traction in any way possible.

Given the chance i'd like to push it further in wet conditions, especially track day + rain. On regular roads, there's still a lot of reserve/cautions as the risk is just too high and obviously i wouldn't want to endanger other motorists/pedestrians (There's a lot of cyclists at sempah )


Handling/Road feedback/Progressiveness:
Hair pins, S corners, quick/rapid left right back to back, anything. Whatever you throw at it, the steering > car > tire obeys and and executes. Like i said previously, it's very arcade/computer game like, what you input is what you get. The feeling is just phenomenal!

Road feedback is as awesome as always - every bit of road surface condition you can almost feel it as if your ass/hands are touching on the ground. the rough parts of Genting before first guard house/gohtong jaya was easily felt and every minor "slips" that you may encounter due to pot holes/uneven road surface you will immediately get feedback and you can immediately apply any corrections as needed. Even the leaf/twigs/broken branches at Genting sempah roads were well felt while going over them and considering the road conditions were wet, everything is being fed towards me and if needed, i can apply the necessary correction (which considering my speed, there was no correction needed at all.)

Progression wise, now this is where today's karak highway down hill gave valueble feedback/experience on -
As we sped down the highway (2 of our crazy members were chasing a forte at around/excess of 200km/h ) i was going around 170+km/h, at around 6.5k rpm, really pushing the hell out of my car already. People who are familiar with Karak highway downhills (genting going towards KL direction) will know of their cambered high speed cornering. And this is where the warning signs/intuition comes in - just like any hobby/upgrades, as you upgrade a certain component/part, you WILL reveal yet another weakest link in your setup. Prior the AD08R is obviously my comfort/low nvh C drive 2 tires, and post upgrade the link is clearly the chassis/rear torsion beam or even myself as a driver.

See, as I tackle the downhill cornering at speeds between 140-170+km/h, the tires were not showing any traction lost, or any signs of losing grip. However there is this gut feeling or intuition that my rears are giving out i kept feeling as it is going to slide/at it's threshold/limit. The awesome thing about installing the rear anti roll bar previously is that it allows me to gauge the rear's limits much better than before and i am able to control it somewhat. With the tires' very linear progressiveness in grip/feedback i tend to get a lot of "warning signs" on my rear however the tires are not having any symptom of losing grip/squealing whatsoever, so the obvious conclusion is either i'm just a little paranoid, or the weak link has to be my chassis/torsion beam.

Considering Iswara's infamous reputation of fishtailing/losing its rear and my own experiences as an iswara driver for many long years, the final conclusion is still the torsion beam.


Tire/tread wear:
Tire surface start to show rough/ugly marks - you know, the kind you ALWAYS see on semi slick tires. however the tread pattern is still very deep, and the "tire hairs" (compound/rubber injection points left overs/nips basically) are still clearly visible, so not much of a concern i suppose.




Thanks for reading guys, will most likely do another update after speed-fest track day on the 18th August

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Aug 8 2013, 08:29 PM

Queueing up to get in the shop:



Tires waiting:



Kent showing his staff how it's done:



Attending to my car personally:



Fitted:

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I'm not big on writing full-on reviews, but I echo most of Quazacolt's comments. These tyres have been great. Took it up Ulu Yam and came back down on the highway with some spirited driving. I find myself taking corners faster and barely heard a squeal. Steering response is very much improved. Felt more confident sweeping down Karak. It just felt planted.

Previous tires I've used on the coupe include Toyo T1R, Nexen N8000 (don't ask), Goodyear F1 Assy 2 and Falken FK452. They are nothing compared to the AD08R. Of course they're in completely different leagues to compare. A good comparison would probably be with the likes of Federal 595RSR or Toyo R1R.

Thanks again Quazacolt for organizing the group buy, and nestum for providing great service.

glad you enjoyed them bro

i'm barely even pushing the tires at all, it's more of the tires trying to compensate whatever flaws my car/myself as a driver has

however thanks to davidke20 pointers i've got a lot of things figured out and hopefully can get it sorted out before this weekend's track day to give the tires a proper setup it very much deserve

Don't mention it. Ayam small time nia

just found this, around a g of cornering force and the tires didn't really screech that much.
gets louder as he exceeds 1/1.2 or so haha